DRM Program from Apple? What the fsck are you smoking?
iTMS uses the FairPlay DRM. I have a lot of songs and I can't think of a single instance when FairPlay got in my way or kept me from doing anything. I can burn the songs to as many CDs as I like, play the music on up to three computers (at a time), and transfer it to as many iPods as I like. How exactly is that restricting me?
If I get desperate I can rip it off a burn, but I don't even see why I would do that (for my situation).
The rest of iTunes has no DRM incorporated. What this entire story is about is not any form of DRM, but Apple replacing MusicMatch's functionality with their own. You can still use MusicMatch, you can still use your iPod, you can still use MusicMatch with your iPod (with either a hack or by reinstalling MusicMatch), but there are some very good/technical/ reasons why Apple would want to disable MusicMatch's syncing with the iPod.
I fail to see how you are being restricted, even exempting that Apple tells you what iTunes will do/when you install it./
Besides, if you own an iPod and you've download iTunes,/chances are good/ you will want to use iTunes for syncing with your iPod anyways should you continue to use iTunes (not guaranteed, but likely).
So would you and whichever moderator modded you up remove your tinfoil hats?
Yep, because I like spending all day looking for 128 kbps encoded MP3s on an unreliable connection when half of which have been sabotaged by the label or encoded by a guy with his stereo on the opposite side of the room.:p
If you are on their monthly service you keep the music only so long as you subscribe to their service and cannot burn it (or I think transfer it to a music player) without paying the additional charge.
It also reports how many times you've played each track to headquarters.
In 1994 they had 7,021,000 people and 27.2% of all households had guns. Total firearm homicide per 100k people was 0.58. Homicide was 1.32.
How about france and belgium? In both of which guns are readily available (IIRC, at least until recently a "gun permit" in belgium required going down to the local police station).
0.6 and 1.41 for belgium. 16.6% of all households own guns.
0.44 and 1.12 for France, 22.6% of all households own guns.
Actually I would tend to think that someone who has nothing to do with the decision process might have told someone at @stake something which vaguely resembled that there were no plans for it. @stake and company spun the information accordingly.
Whether Apple had any prior plans? Their track record says "yes," though there is no way we are ever going to find out one way or the other.
Now can you please put the tinfoil away? It's making a horrible sound.
>However Apple isn't playing fair enough with the Open >Source community
Oh really? They follow all of the licenses, they have helped improve many programs and libraries (gcc and KHTML come immediately to mind) and they have given us quite a bit (say, all of Darwin) that they didn't have to.
>They release a Quicktime player for Windows and not for >Linux/FreeBSD/etc
That is because they are a "Company" trying to turn a "Profit."
Quicktime Player on windows makes sense--it is a mechanism to get their format adopted as the standard for digital video editing. Porting to linux won't help them in this regard.
>The same extends to iChat and iPhoto too. Don't release >them even closed source for other systems unless they >benefit out of it (usually windows software) - this is a >purely practical and completely uncollaborative >standpoint. "
They are a "company" trying to turn a "profit."
Say it with me now. They do not have a profit motive in porting their iApps. They would have to justify the costs, whatever those happen to be, and they aren't looking at gaining anything by doing so.
Is MacOS X as open as Linux? No, not particularly. Was that in any way relevant to anything that I've said? Nope, not even slightly. Do I care whether it is as open as Linux?
Not even slightly. I choose an OS and apps based on what works for me, not for religious reasons.
>You're really stubborn about confining your focus with >regard to 'computers and operating systems' to tasks >involving sitting in front of a box with display, keyboard, >and mouse attached.
That would be the purpose of a discussion like this, yes.
Saying "Darwin is more limited because it won't run on embedded systems" misses the point of this entire conversation since (because of the initial article) it is about Desktops and Servers.
Sure, you can't scale it back to run on an embedded system, but saying that's a limitation is kind of like saying that big screwdrivers are more limited than small ones--they are similar tools but they operate on a different scale. It isn't exactly a limitation I care about for this discussion.
MacOS X is given a "no" without third party tools.
Windows XP is given a strong "yes" despite that you need third party tools to take care of it.
Another example is "Coexists with another operating system on disk":
Current macs won't boot into OS 9, but they can run OS 9 (through Classic mode) natively. They can also dual-boot with Linux without any difficulty. Surely this deserves the same rank as Windows.
iChat AV is listed as an "Extra cost option" when as of when that was written it was free. This is inconsistent with how Windows is treated.
Second, its selective about its categories. It covers 802.11b, but not 802.11g or BlueTooth. No mention of handwriting recognition (which MacOS X has built in via InkWell) , but things like "Web content on desktop" are included.
The list, of course, goes on. Its a very poor choice as comparison sites go.
As a note: we have to be careful with some of these comparisons since several of the linux apps will run without any difficulty on a MacOS X box.
>Finder vs Nautilus vs Konqueror
No contest. Finder. Now with things like Expose and that everything is automatically sent through the graphics card, the Finder has a lead and its just gaining more ground.
>Safari vs Epiphany vs Konqueror
I've never tried Epiphany, but I prefer Safari to Konqueror just because of how smooth my experience has been with it (as opposed to the rocky ride I had with Konq). I'm biased here since the version of Konq that I used was somewhat older.
>Itunes vs Rhythmbox vs JuK
Not qualified to comment.
>Quicktime player vs Totem vs Kmplayer
If you don't like Quicktime as a player you can, of course, use mplayer as well.
>Expose vs Virtual desktops
No contest for most users, though they really do different things.
>iChat vs Gaim vs Kopete
iChat Just Works(TM) My experience with Gaim wasn't nearly as forgiving. Never tried Kopete.
That having been said: the audio and video chat abilities for iChat are truly remarkable, along with subtle functional details.
>iphoto vs Gimp
These are two separate beasts for two separate purposes. You can, however, run Gimp on MacOS X.
>Scaling down to near-nothing or up to supercomputers.
Scaling down is easy. You can disable the GUI and the extraneous services, though if you are going to do that for all of your systems its probably best just to install Darwin by itself.
As to supercomputers, the Terrascale Computing Facility would certainly seem to qualify. If you are talking things like crays, I'd call that a limitation of the hardware support and not a limitation of the OS.
'Linux makes the easy things difficult, but it makes the hard things easier and the impossible things possible.'
I admit I'm kind of curious what "hard things [are made] easier" on Linux that aren't also made easier under MacOS X? What impossible things are made possible that aren't that way under MacOS X?
"In theory, every CPU in the cluster is able to perform two floating-point operations every clock cycle, but only if one of those is a multiplication and the other is an addition. The two occur in combination fairly often in scientific computing."
My understanding is that it can perform two FMADD instructions every clock cycle.
I'm still not sure why one would use continuations for well-designed code (kind of like labels in C++). I think the Ruby FAQ has the best statement on continuations.
----- Ruby's continuations allow you to create an object representing a place in a Ruby program, and then return to that place at any time (even if it has apparently gone out of scope). Continuations can be used to implement complex control structures, but are typically more useful as ways of confusing people.
Some people with in-house AirPort networks have run into difficulties after installing panther. If this is happening to you, Apple has already given a workaround here.
Also, Control-d now selects the dock and allows for keyboard navigation rather than getting sent to the app you want it to be sent to (such as terminal). I haven't figured out how to turn this off, but you can work around it by using the option key in addition to the control key (so Control-Option-d instead of just Control-d).
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DRM Program from Apple? What the fsck are you smoking?
/technical/ reasons why Apple would want to disable MusicMatch's syncing with the iPod.
/when you install it./
/chances are good/ you will want to use iTunes for syncing with your iPod anyways should you continue to use iTunes (not guaranteed, but likely).
iTMS uses the FairPlay DRM. I have a lot of songs and I can't think of a single instance when FairPlay got in my way or kept me from doing anything. I can burn the songs to as many CDs as I like, play the music on up to three computers (at a time), and transfer it to as many iPods as I like. How exactly is that restricting me?
If I get desperate I can rip it off a burn, but I don't even see why I would do that (for my situation).
The rest of iTunes has no DRM incorporated. What this entire story is about is not any form of DRM, but Apple replacing MusicMatch's functionality with their own. You can still use MusicMatch, you can still use your iPod, you can still use MusicMatch with your iPod (with either a hack or by reinstalling MusicMatch), but there are some very good
I fail to see how you are being restricted, even exempting that Apple tells you what iTunes will do
Besides, if you own an iPod and you've download iTunes,
So would you and whichever moderator modded you up remove your tinfoil hats?
I have had no problems of the nature you are describing on my in-house LAN.
In short: WORKSFORME
Even the GRE Analytical Writing section allows for minor grammar and spelling errors on their 6.0/6.0.
Me thinks you have an odd notion of "journalistic integrity."
This isn't unique to iTunes, the audiobooks of her work are always very expensive.
Yep, because I like spending all day looking for 128 kbps encoded MP3s on an unreliable connection when half of which have been sabotaged by the label or encoded by a guy with his stereo on the opposite side of the room. :p
http://www.napster.com/terms.html
If you are on their monthly service you keep the music only so long as you subscribe to their service and cannot burn it (or I think transfer it to a music player) without paying the additional charge.
It also reports how many times you've played each track to headquarters.
What is the murder rate in Switzerland?
In 1994 they had 7,021,000 people and 27.2% of all households had guns. Total firearm homicide per 100k people was 0.58. Homicide was 1.32.
How about france and belgium? In both of which guns are readily available (IIRC, at least until recently a "gun permit" in belgium required going down to the local police station).
0.6 and 1.41 for belgium. 16.6% of all households own guns.
0.44 and 1.12 for France, 22.6% of all households own guns.
So let's see what Norway's like:
32% of all households have guns.
0.30 and 0.97, respectively.
http://slashdot.org/index.pl?mode=&issue=20031 031
Wow, you've never used MacOS X, have you?
Quick to judge for someone who has never played with one.
Suffice it to say, you are wrong on every one of your points.
Actually I would tend to think that someone who has nothing to do with the decision process might have told someone at @stake something which vaguely resembled that there were no plans for it. @stake and company spun the information accordingly.
Whether Apple had any prior plans? Their track record says "yes," though there is no way we are ever going to find out one way or the other.
Now can you please put the tinfoil away? It's making a horrible sound.
>However Apple isn't playing fair enough with the Open
>Source community
Oh really? They follow all of the licenses, they have helped improve many programs and libraries (gcc and KHTML come immediately to mind) and they have given us quite a bit (say, all of Darwin) that they didn't have to.
>They release a Quicktime player for Windows and not for
>Linux/FreeBSD/etc
That is because they are a "Company" trying to turn a "Profit."
Quicktime Player on windows makes sense--it is a mechanism to get their format adopted as the standard for digital video editing. Porting to linux won't help them in this regard.
>The same extends to iChat and iPhoto too. Don't release
>them even closed source for other systems unless they
>benefit out of it (usually windows software) - this is a
>purely practical and completely uncollaborative
>standpoint. "
They are a "company" trying to turn a "profit."
Say it with me now. They do not have a profit motive in porting their iApps. They would have to justify the costs, whatever those happen to be, and they aren't looking at gaining anything by doing so.
Is MacOS X as open as Linux? No, not particularly. Was that in any way relevant to anything that I've said? Nope, not even slightly. Do I care whether it is as open as Linux?
Not even slightly. I choose an OS and apps based on what works for me, not for religious reasons.
>You're really stubborn about confining your focus with
>regard to 'computers and operating systems' to tasks
>involving sitting in front of a box with display, keyboard,
>and mouse attached.
That would be the purpose of a discussion like this, yes.
Saying "Darwin is more limited because it won't run on embedded systems" misses the point of this entire conversation since (because of the initial article) it is about Desktops and Servers.
Sure, you can't scale it back to run on an embedded system, but saying that's a limitation is kind of like saying that big screwdrivers are more limited than small ones--they are similar tools but they operate on a different scale. It isn't exactly a limitation I care about for this discussion.
RTFA.
Actually its a horrid comparison.
First, it treats the OSs differently.
Let's take DVD+RW support.
MacOS X is given a "no" without third party tools.
Windows XP is given a strong "yes" despite that you need third party tools to take care of it.
Another example is "Coexists with another operating system on disk":
Current macs won't boot into OS 9, but they can run OS 9 (through Classic mode) natively. They can also dual-boot with Linux without any difficulty. Surely this deserves the same rank as Windows.
iChat AV is listed as an "Extra cost option" when as of when that was written it was free. This is inconsistent with how Windows is treated.
Second, its selective about its categories. It covers 802.11b, but not 802.11g or BlueTooth. No mention of handwriting recognition (which MacOS X has built in via InkWell) , but things like "Web content on desktop" are included.
The list, of course, goes on. Its a very poor choice as comparison sites go.
As a note: we have to be careful with some of these comparisons since several of the linux apps will run without any difficulty on a MacOS X box.
>Finder vs Nautilus vs Konqueror
No contest. Finder. Now with things like Expose and that everything is automatically sent through the graphics card, the Finder has a lead and its just gaining more ground.
>Safari vs Epiphany vs Konqueror
I've never tried Epiphany, but I prefer Safari to Konqueror just because of how smooth my experience has been with it (as opposed to the rocky ride I had with Konq). I'm biased here since the version of Konq that I used was somewhat older.
>Itunes vs Rhythmbox vs JuK
Not qualified to comment.
>Quicktime player vs Totem vs Kmplayer
If you don't like Quicktime as a player you can, of course, use mplayer as well.
>Expose vs Virtual desktops
No contest for most users, though they really do different things.
>iChat vs Gaim vs Kopete
iChat Just Works(TM) My experience with Gaim wasn't nearly as forgiving. Never tried Kopete.
That having been said: the audio and video chat abilities for iChat are truly remarkable, along with subtle functional details.
>iphoto vs Gimp
These are two separate beasts for two separate purposes. You can, however, run Gimp on MacOS X.
>Scaling down to near-nothing or up to supercomputers.
Scaling down is easy. You can disable the GUI and the extraneous services, though if you are going to do that for all of your systems its probably best just to install Darwin by itself.
As to supercomputers, the Terrascale Computing Facility would certainly seem to qualify. If you are talking things like crays, I'd call that a limitation of the hardware support and not a limitation of the OS.
>Sourcecode modification of your gui?
Well, you can run X11 with GNome if you prefer.
'Linux makes the easy things difficult, but it makes the hard things easier and the impossible things possible.'
I admit I'm kind of curious what "hard things [are made] easier" on Linux that aren't also made easier under MacOS X? What impossible things are made possible that aren't that way under MacOS X?
Um, its two FMADDs in parallel, not two adds in parallel.
FMADD is floating-multiply-add.
fmadd f0,f1,f2,f3 # f0 = f1 * f2 + f3
"In theory, every CPU in the cluster is able to perform two floating-point operations every clock cycle, but only if one of those is a multiplication and the other is an addition. The two occur in combination fairly often in scientific computing."
My understanding is that it can perform two FMADD instructions every clock cycle.
Is there any reason to use FireBird over Safari?
Choice is a good thing, of course, but what are the advantages/disadvantages?
I'm still not sure why one would use continuations for well-designed code (kind of like labels in C++). I think the Ruby FAQ has the best statement on continuations.
-----
Ruby's continuations allow you to create an object representing a place in a Ruby program, and then return to that place at any time (even if it has apparently gone out of scope). Continuations can be used to implement complex control structures, but are typically more useful as ways of confusing people.
After you said that I double checked my Keyboard settings and, sure enough, it got set (somehow) in the keyboard shortcut settings. Fixed :-)
As a note, you can have it install X11 automatically by pressing the "Customize" button while setting up the install. Its one of the options there.
I haven't had problems with anything that you've mentioned, though I haven't tried saving drafts over IMAP yet.
Some people with in-house AirPort networks have run into difficulties after installing panther. If this is happening to you, Apple has already given a workaround here.
Also, Control-d now selects the dock and allows for keyboard navigation rather than getting sent to the app you want it to be sent to (such as terminal). I haven't figured out how to turn this off, but you can work around it by using the option key in addition to the control key (so Control-Option-d instead of just Control-d).
Um. This sounds like a bad attempt at mockery by the company, is it really an issue?