So, you want to claim ownership to an asteroid? Well buddy, you better get your ass out there and build a castle. Then when someone else comes along you tell them to shove off or pay the toll.
They did. Lawyers, C&D letters and trials are modern mercenaries, arms and battles. Think about it: today's power is in the hand of who makes the law or has the biggers lawyers army.
You got it wrong. Open-source doesn't mean Linux-style development. You can have a company-regulated project, but still open to the citizens wishing to peek at the code.
The "many eyes" argument is merely a shotgun approach to quality control.
Are you totally blind or what ? Of course in an electronic voting system, what's to fear isn't a bug (it will be fixed anyway) but a deliberate result skewing. Open sourcing a system means it's harder to introduce a backdoor. Way harder even, if the process is correctly designed and implemented. Closed source systems *guarantees* that nearly no one except paid developers will see what happens. That's frightening - when you love democraty, that is.
The problem for poor countries *is* IP laws. These laws have been invented for the big and powerful corporations and countries. Just saying "no" to IP laws (and having a mean to back that) is the only way to independance.
And once you've tried to maintain your own fork of a GPLed software for a time, you end up folding your changes back to upstream. Have no fear.
There's no such thing as an Open Source community. There are only bunch of peoples/companies with very different (even diverging) interests, working sometimes together on some particular projects.
Err.. nowadays we have more like 10 weeks paid vacations in some companies (but with some twists, like you can't group all of them, or sometimes you even don't have the choice on certain days. depends of your employer). Granted, the current governement doesn't like that and want to reduce it.
Basically, ENUM maps phone numbers to the DNS, e.g. the number 555-1234 from Washington DC (area code 202) in USA (country code 1), which is written 1-202-555-1234 (in the E164 international phopne numbering scheme) will be mapped to the DNS entry: 4.3.2.1.5.5.5.2.0.2.1.e164.arpa (note it's reversed).
Well, we're lucky they chose the.arpa toplevel, otherwise each wrong phone number would have been answered by Verisign's sitefinder...
If you remember correctly, in Gattaca such a law exists, which forbids employers to use DNA tests to select their candidates. But, of course, they aren't applied: in today's world, do you object when a recruiter goes beyond its duty and asks you about your private life, when you absolutely need the job and know several others need the sale job ?
This is probably one of the very few times we'd want to see Microsoft win a case like this.
Not at all. USA has a bad patent system made for big corporations and lawyers. Letting Microsoft win this case would show furthermore that law isn't really a problem when you have more lawyers.
Agreed, init does some getty magic and some stuff, but this could well be handled by another daemon or something, it doesn't really matter. The true problem is the inextricable tree of shell scripts which traditionnaly goes with it. A good robust framework to handle priorities/dependencies/parallelism, GUI/console/whatever frontends, simplicity of manipulation and coding would be good. I imagine we can all live with the current status quo some more years, but some bright minds can do better. I'm sure.
As always on/. there are loads of uninformed comments just based on the title:)
I think Seth's idea is a good one. Of course, there are some things to refine: the dependency shouldn't be external (e.g. SystemService knowing the dependancy tree) but dynamic (e.g. GDM sees that its config requires network login, so it asks SystemService to start network), etc.
But overall rethinking the init is a good thing. Even just opening the debate is a very good thing. The mess of shell scripts is more a giant hack than a well-thought bootstrap system.
using IMAP to connect to exchange, I cant REALLY delete anything
I didn't try Exchange as an IMAP server, but with the Cyrus IMAP server, you have to choose "Expunge" (or "Empty Trash", can't remember) in the "Action" menu of Ximian Evolution to really delete the mails. I imagine you should try that.
I don't like this. If we continue this trend of sending machines instead of humans to do risky jobs, sooner or later the machines will revolt and we will have to live underground like miserable rats.
They did. Lawyers, C&D letters and trials are modern mercenaries, arms and battles. Think about it: today's power is in the hand of who makes the law or has the biggers lawyers army.
Well, the Georges Bush dynasty is not too bad at that game.
You got it wrong. Open-source doesn't mean Linux-style development. You can have a company-regulated project, but still open to the citizens wishing to peek at the code.
Are you totally blind or what ? Of course in an electronic voting system, what's to fear isn't a bug (it will be fixed anyway) but a deliberate result skewing. Open sourcing a system means it's harder to introduce a backdoor. Way harder even, if the process is correctly designed and implemented. Closed source systems *guarantees* that nearly no one except paid developers will see what happens. That's frightening - when you love democraty, that is.
That was before I started reading /.
Because human body is faaaar better designed than Windows, perhaps ?
You guys find making love obscene and killing people normal. You're so weird.
The problem for poor countries *is* IP laws. These laws have been invented for the big and powerful corporations and countries. Just saying "no" to IP laws (and having a mean to back that) is the only way to independance. And once you've tried to maintain your own fork of a GPLed software for a time, you end up folding your changes back to upstream. Have no fear.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/iraq/100days/100 days.pdf
I'd like to compare that to how many tons are used to make biodiesel or other bio-carburants nowadays. someone has figures, please ?
-- slightly modified from Bruce Schneier
There's no such thing as an Open Source community. There are only bunch of peoples/companies with very different (even diverging) interests, working sometimes together on some particular projects.
Err .. nowadays we have more like 10 weeks paid vacations in some companies (but with some twists, like you can't group all of them, or sometimes you even don't have the choice on certain days. depends of your employer). Granted, the current governement doesn't like that and want to reduce it.
Well, we're lucky they chose the .arpa toplevel, otherwise each wrong phone number would have been answered by Verisign's sitefinder ...
If you remember correctly, in Gattaca such a law exists, which forbids employers to use DNA tests to select their candidates. But, of course, they aren't applied: in today's world, do you object when a recruiter goes beyond its duty and asks you about your private life, when you absolutely need the job and know several others need the sale job ?
Hey man ! At least tell the truth, the GPL doesn't prevent anyone from selling free software.
Add mp3z/d1vx 6uyz and you have 99.9% of the computer users.
Ok, but the poster meant: do they have permission from Microsoft for breaking into W2K ? *That* would be against the DMCA (not sure).
Not at all. USA has a bad patent system made for big corporations and lawyers. Letting Microsoft win this case would show furthermore that law isn't really a problem when you have more lawyers.
The problem is the law. It's stupid. Change it.
.. a glitch in the matrix ? :)
Google Karma: Terrific, due to obsessive searching syndrome
Agreed, init does some getty magic and some stuff, but this could well be handled by another daemon or something, it doesn't really matter. The true problem is the inextricable tree of shell scripts which traditionnaly goes with it. A good robust framework to handle priorities/dependencies/parallelism, GUI/console/whatever frontends, simplicity of manipulation and coding would be good. I imagine we can all live with the current status quo some more years, but some bright minds can do better. I'm sure.
I think Seth's idea is a good one. Of course, there are some things to refine: the dependency shouldn't be external (e.g. SystemService knowing the dependancy tree) but dynamic (e.g. GDM sees that its config requires network login, so it asks SystemService to start network), etc.
But overall rethinking the init is a good thing. Even just opening the debate is a very good thing. The mess of shell scripts is more a giant hack than a well-thought bootstrap system.
I didn't try Exchange as an IMAP server, but with the Cyrus IMAP server, you have to choose "Expunge" (or "Empty Trash", can't remember) in the "Action" menu of Ximian Evolution to really delete the mails. I imagine you should try that.
I don't like this. If we continue this trend of sending machines instead of humans to do risky jobs, sooner or later the machines will revolt and we will have to live underground like miserable rats.