I find Google Groups to be a lot more useful than DejaNews was. I actually use it all the time now. It's so easy to do searches and to find information. Google Groups is a great service!
"The default style sheet in IE and Netscape gives the body element margin: 8px, Opera uses padding: 8px. Padding is the margin between the body element and the content, while margin is the margin between the body and the html element (or the head element if visible). If either margin or padding is explicitly set on body, the other property should be set too."
"To test this, the User-Agent filed was changed slightly -- from "Opera" to "Oprah". Since there is no "Oprah" browser on the market, one assumes that MSN has not created special versions for it.
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Looking into this 37k file, we find a reference to the same style sheet as MSIE6 receives. Just to make sure the server does not modify this style sheet before sending it to the browsers, we fetch the style sheet with the "Oprah" browser:
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The resulting file is identical to the one MSIE6 receives. Therefore, MSN looks for "Opera" in the User-Agent string and on purpose send Opera7 a style sheet which distort pages."
So it would seem that Opera was specifically targeted.
You can configure Opera to have a minimalist interface if you wanted, or even change skins. Installing skins is almost too easy - click on a skin on their skins page and it's done.
But I like all the features Opera has. Phoenix is kind of playing catch-up and taking lots of features from Opera all the time.
Mozilla is more down my alley, but since Opera is both smaller and faster (on my systems anyway), I prefer Opera. I'm keeping an eye on Phoenix, but it isn't quite there yet, and Opera doesn't seem to be losing its grip. Just look at the new spatial navigation feature in Opera 7 - it has never been this easy to use the keyboard only for surfing. Fast Forward isn't exactly an unusable new feature either, especially combined with the password manager.
But these browsers are all superior to MSIE anyway, which is why we should spread the word about alternative browsers and let people try them out and choose which one they prefer. As long as it's Opera, Mozilla or another standards compliant browser it doesn't matter. The more people using alternative browsers the more sites will take them into account.
I believe Opera had "type ahead find" before Mozilla, only it is called "inline find". The implementations are slightly different, but I believe the point still stands.
Still, Mozilla is a damn fine browser, as is Opera.
They were notified on Friday, made the fix available yesterday and released it officially today, Wednesday. That's four to five days to fix the five vulnerabilities, do regression testing and normal QA, and release it.
"Opera-lite, anyone? I might actually be interested in such a thing, especially for lower end machines."
You can already use the full-features version on lower end machines. If your PC can run Windows, it can run Opera. And if the default skin is a bit heavy because you've got an old system, just change the skin from Standard to Windows. It is much lighter on resources.
So Opera already works fine on lower end machines, despite all the features they have crammed into a 3 MB download.
"I can bend too in my belief that I am not supposed to "reverse engineer" the product to try to make it work, if the vendor is also willing to take unlimited liability in assuring me the software does what it says it does, nothing more, and nothing less."
If this is what you want, I hope you are ready for software becoming even more expensive, updates taking much longer and smaller companies simply going out of business.
In addition to this, software could turn out to have fewer useful features because the benefit of including this incredibly useful feature doesn't outweigh the extremely long time you have to spend perfecting it before it's ready for mass-market consumption and the risks involved in including it.
The problem is that the software doesn't just have to handle its own environment. It has to work on any insanely configured operating system if it is to be aimed at the mass-market. It has to play nice with all other software in existence, including drivers if it uses some kind of hardware acceleration or similar. And people do the weirdest stuff with their systems. If the program does mess up, is it the program's fault if it is caused by another program or by the user fouling up something else which (in)directly leads to the failure?
I am not writing this because I don't agree with you - I do. Software is generally released too soon, but this is also due to a number of factors such as the need to release something to get money to fund further development, as well as market pressure etc. These, too, prevent software from becoming what we would like it to be: Always working, stable and without bugs.
In the end, your wish is a good one, but it is unrealistic, and if it did happen, major changes would have to be done to the way the entire industry works. But maybe that would be a good thing...
You are joking about not realizing that anyone can see your IP if you are connected to them? Nothing can "cloak". If people couldn't get your IP, they wouldn't be able to connect to you, period.
Whether or not the client shows the IP address is irrelevant. It is there, and the RIAA or whoever else might want to find it, can easily do so.
You are joking, right? You do realize that whenever you are connected to someone else - uploading or downloading, they can easily find your IP address? That's the whole point of IP addresses - a unique address so the other end knows where to send to and receive from.
Thinking that your IP address is hidden just because the client doesn't show it is silly.
They wouldn't have gotten any information from Microsoft if Microsoft didn't believe that they would be able to buy out Nintendo. Nintendo were definitely pretending to be interested.
You do remember that Microsoft and Nintendo were actually in talks about this, right?
Luckily, Nintendo never intended to be bought up, and were just playing games with Microsoft - pretending to be interested to learn as much about Microsoft's console strategy as possible by fooling them into thinking that they would get Nintendo.
Yeah, sounds like a Microsoft tactic, doesn't it? Nintendo used to have a near monopoly, too.
If you rely on Google for traffic, that's your problem and your decision. So you rely on free advertising from Google, eh? How nice. In the real world, we pay for ads.
"Ruthless monopoly"? That link shows someone who apparently bases part of his business on being highly ranked on Google! He is basically depending on Google to get free advertising! Shouldn't he be paying someone else to advertise his company and bring on money that way? I mean, come on, if you depend on google to get business, you know that you have problems.
Google is so widely used because it works great. People are not locked into using Google. They use it of their own free will.
"What makes a browser is not how well it renders good sites (which of course it should do anyway) but how well it renders bad sites."
In an ideal world I would disagree. A good browser follows the standards and ignores non-standard nonsense. It is predictable in the way it handles code (which, by accident, happens to mean that it follows the standards).
Browsers like MSIE are terrible browsers because they are not predictable. They are not predictable because they try to guess what the author is trying to do. They shouldn't.
But this is not an ideal world, so a browser must handle nonsense.
What makes the better browser for me is usability. Safari doesn't have any major time-saving power features like tabbed browsing or mouse gestures.
Safari just isn't for me. It is too basic - lacks too many features - to be of any use. I feel trapped because of the incredibly basic and near-useless UI. But this is my personal opinion. Some may like the no-nonsense UI, and I am glad if they like Safari, because the browser is good news for other alternative browsers.
They can't do anything. ISPs that I know of require proper logs of abuse if they are even going to look into it. If the ISP does not see any evidence of abuse, it won't do anything.
So sending letters to ISPs is probably useless, unless they are spineless cowards. My ISP happens to refuse to even consider action based on accusations alone. If they want to boot a user, present logs with abuse or go to the police.
Indeed. The fact is that for the ISP to terminate your account for abuse, you will need proper logs and so on. At least that's how my ISP works. And anyone used to reporting abuse (spam, flooding etc.), knows this.
Yes, can you imagine?! A company giving extra benefits to their customers so more people are willing to pay for their product?
My God, what a horrible business model!
They should behave properly and follow the RIAA/MPAA business model instead: Take choice away from their users and charge more while at the same time delivering less.
Shame on you Mandrake, for trying to get more funding with creative new ways!
If someone can make money from selling "unprotected" chips, they will probably do so. If it is illegal that's fine, because it just means that it will be done by organized criminals instead. We will all be organized criminals, in fact. And I won't hesitate for a second.
Can you stop drugs, child porn and other illegal things? No, it is still being manufactured because there is a demand for it. And even though some are busted, you will never get even a tiny part of the people doing it. My guess is that drug and child porn busting is just for show, so the police can justify their funds and pretend that they are actually making a huge difference.
The corporation whores in our governments will naturally call us "terrorists" and compare us to drug abusers and child pornographers, but that is a small price to pay for freedom.
They can call me what they will, but if they make it illegal to do what I want with my own equipment, then so be it. I will be a criminal, big time. In fact, I will probably spend considerable resources to spread the word about illegal chips and do whatever I can to work against the government.
No, I know it's not that easy, but someone will do most likely it because there will be big money in it.
There will always be ways to crack protection mechanisms. I don't know what this new BIOS will mean, but it seems most people here fear that this is another step towards not having control of your own system.
Well, I am worried about the development too, but at the same time, I think we must realize that no matter what they throw at us, someone will crack the protection.
Ultimately, the entertainment industry will only be able to control individuals who allow themselves to be controlled.
The rest of us will actively seek solutions that remove us from the evil claws of "Digital Rights Management", or rather "Consumer Ass Ramming" as it should really be called.
They can encrypt and protect all they want, but someone will come through. Someone will work constantly on giving us our rights back - even if it means doing so illegally.
If it becomes illegal to have control over one's own system and play off whatever one pleases, I will stand in line to break the law. Constantly. The more they try to control me, the more I will break laws.
I am not saying that people's concerns about violated rights to control one's own system is not justified. I am just saying that we will prevail in the end. With the incredible amount of brainpower available to those with a liberal mind, the entertainment industry may win over the sheep who do not realize what is happening, but they will not get the ones that don't want to be ass-rammed.
Sorry for the rant, but hopefully someone else agrees that the fight is far from over, and no matter what they tro to do, we will continue to fight...
"you can only give your child a name from an "approved" list"
Actually, there is a list to protect children so they don't get some of the most insane names parents are stupid enough to want to give them.
You are giving the impression that there's a tiny list of maybe 100 names or so, but this is not the case.
"and it is currently a topic of discussion as to whether freedom of speech extends to being allowed to say bad things about different racial groups in public"
Actually, the discussion is whether or not one should accept it when someone encourages others to slaughter down minority groups. YMMV.
Moderators, please be careful with your +1 moderations, especially when someone intentionally writes his post like this, to mislead people who know nothing about Norway.
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I find Google Groups to be a lot more useful than DejaNews was. I actually use it all the time now. It's so easy to do searches and to find information. Google Groups is a great service!
http://www.opera.com/docs/specs/
But I like all the features Opera has. Phoenix is kind of playing catch-up and taking lots of features from Opera all the time.
Mozilla is more down my alley, but since Opera is both smaller and faster (on my systems anyway), I prefer Opera. I'm keeping an eye on Phoenix, but it isn't quite there yet, and Opera doesn't seem to be losing its grip. Just look at the new spatial navigation feature in Opera 7 - it has never been this easy to use the keyboard only for surfing. Fast Forward isn't exactly an unusable new feature either, especially combined with the password manager.
But these browsers are all superior to MSIE anyway, which is why we should spread the word about alternative browsers and let people try them out and choose which one they prefer. As long as it's Opera, Mozilla or another standards compliant browser it doesn't matter. The more people using alternative browsers the more sites will take them into account.
Still, Mozilla is a damn fine browser, as is Opera.
They have not known about it since November.
So Opera already works fine on lower end machines, despite all the features they have crammed into a 3 MB download.
In addition to this, software could turn out to have fewer useful features because the benefit of including this incredibly useful feature doesn't outweigh the extremely long time you have to spend perfecting it before it's ready for mass-market consumption and the risks involved in including it.
The problem is that the software doesn't just have to handle its own environment. It has to work on any insanely configured operating system if it is to be aimed at the mass-market. It has to play nice with all other software in existence, including drivers if it uses some kind of hardware acceleration or similar. And people do the weirdest stuff with their systems. If the program does mess up, is it the program's fault if it is caused by another program or by the user fouling up something else which (in)directly leads to the failure?
I am not writing this because I don't agree with you - I do. Software is generally released too soon, but this is also due to a number of factors such as the need to release something to get money to fund further development, as well as market pressure etc. These, too, prevent software from becoming what we would like it to be: Always working, stable and without bugs.
In the end, your wish is a good one, but it is unrealistic, and if it did happen, major changes would have to be done to the way the entire industry works. But maybe that would be a good thing...
You are joking about not realizing that anyone can see your IP if you are connected to them? Nothing can "cloak". If people couldn't get your IP, they wouldn't be able to connect to you, period.
Whether or not the client shows the IP address is irrelevant. It is there, and the RIAA or whoever else might want to find it, can easily do so.
Thinking that your IP address is hidden just because the client doesn't show it is silly.
They wouldn't have gotten any information from Microsoft if Microsoft didn't believe that they would be able to buy out Nintendo. Nintendo were definitely pretending to be interested.
Luckily, Nintendo never intended to be bought up, and were just playing games with Microsoft - pretending to be interested to learn as much about Microsoft's console strategy as possible by fooling them into thinking that they would get Nintendo.
Yeah, sounds like a Microsoft tactic, doesn't it? Nintendo used to have a near monopoly, too.
Google is so widely used because it works great. People are not locked into using Google. They use it of their own free will.
Browsers like MSIE are terrible browsers because they are not predictable. They are not predictable because they try to guess what the author is trying to do. They shouldn't.
But this is not an ideal world, so a browser must handle nonsense.
What makes the better browser for me is usability. Safari doesn't have any major time-saving power features like tabbed browsing or mouse gestures.
Safari just isn't for me. It is too basic - lacks too many features - to be of any use. I feel trapped because of the incredibly basic and near-useless UI. But this is my personal opinion. Some may like the no-nonsense UI, and I am glad if they like Safari, because the browser is good news for other alternative browsers.
So sending letters to ISPs is probably useless, unless they are spineless cowards. My ISP happens to refuse to even consider action based on accusations alone. If they want to boot a user, present logs with abuse or go to the police.
Indeed. The fact is that for the ISP to terminate your account for abuse, you will need proper logs and so on. At least that's how my ISP works. And anyone used to reporting abuse (spam, flooding etc.), knows this.
My God, what a horrible business model!
They should behave properly and follow the RIAA/MPAA business model instead: Take choice away from their users and charge more while at the same time delivering less.
Shame on you Mandrake, for trying to get more funding with creative new ways!
That's just because Microsoft want a foothold on the Mac, and it isn't even the same browser. It is developed by a completely different team.
MSIE is not free. It is an important part of an expensive operating system.
Can you stop drugs, child porn and other illegal things? No, it is still being manufactured because there is a demand for it. And even though some are busted, you will never get even a tiny part of the people doing it. My guess is that drug and child porn busting is just for show, so the police can justify their funds and pretend that they are actually making a huge difference.
The corporation whores in our governments will naturally call us "terrorists" and compare us to drug abusers and child pornographers, but that is a small price to pay for freedom.
They can call me what they will, but if they make it illegal to do what I want with my own equipment, then so be it. I will be a criminal, big time. In fact, I will probably spend considerable resources to spread the word about illegal chips and do whatever I can to work against the government.
No, I know it's not that easy, but someone will do most likely it because there will be big money in it.
Well, I am worried about the development too, but at the same time, I think we must realize that no matter what they throw at us, someone will crack the protection.
Ultimately, the entertainment industry will only be able to control individuals who allow themselves to be controlled.
The rest of us will actively seek solutions that remove us from the evil claws of "Digital Rights Management", or rather "Consumer Ass Ramming" as it should really be called.
They can encrypt and protect all they want, but someone will come through. Someone will work constantly on giving us our rights back - even if it means doing so illegally.
If it becomes illegal to have control over one's own system and play off whatever one pleases, I will stand in line to break the law. Constantly. The more they try to control me, the more I will break laws.
I am not saying that people's concerns about violated rights to control one's own system is not justified. I am just saying that we will prevail in the end. With the incredible amount of brainpower available to those with a liberal mind, the entertainment industry may win over the sheep who do not realize what is happening, but they will not get the ones that don't want to be ass-rammed.
Sorry for the rant, but hopefully someone else agrees that the fight is far from over, and no matter what they tro to do, we will continue to fight...
You are giving the impression that there's a tiny list of maybe 100 names or so, but this is not the case.
Actually, the discussion is whether or not one should accept it when someone encourages others to slaughter down minority groups. YMMV.Moderators, please be careful with your +1 moderations, especially when someone intentionally writes his post like this, to mislead people who know nothing about Norway.
But carma whoring is annoying nonetheless.