"can see it now... an Iraqi dissident is hiding in a ditch near Baghdad, determined to ambush the next American patrol, then reconsiders because he's distracted by the sergeant's spectacular breasts....that might just work. Hooraay! Fake Tits for everyone!"
You are suggesting the GP use wikipedia as "research"? Sure, that's the definitive answer to all life's questions - a million monkey who think they are smarter than they really are.
Actually, "farm pigs" can do quite well in the wild. All of the "wild boar" in the US (with the exception of the peccary, I think) are former domesticated pigs let out to forage. And they can be quite successful - ask the Hawaiians. Pigs are extremely intelligent, and not very picky eater. They are also tasty animals, as my 5 year old daughter put it after being told where bacon comes from.
My guess would be that the only domesticated animals that wouldn't "make it" in the wild (in the species sense) would be domesticated fowl. Chicken and turkey are literally too dumb to live without human intervention. Cows would do OK - an ungelded bull can take care of himself and his harem just fine. The wild ponies in the US are also remnants from domesticated horses, and goats would be OK too. Sheep? Maybe - it would keep the predator population happy, though.
Please don't get me wrong - I don't agree with the vegan philosophy whatsoever. I just believe that particular argument against veganism is weak.
Finally;
Omnivore:(n)1. A vegan whose Prius just hit a wild cow they "liberated".
"vat-o-meat will have just as much fat and cholesterol as the real stuff."
Actually, probably not. As I understand it, all the techniques of "culturing" cells are directed toward making all the cells the same - if there are different types of cells in the culture, it is considered a failure. So "cultured meat" would be ALL muscle cells, with no fat cells or connective tissue. Which, while pleasing the health conscious, would be a culinary disaster - picture the toughest, driest steak on the planet.
One solution would be to culture genetically engineered fat cells with little bad cholesterol, and then grind it in with the cultured meat. So the choices would be hamburgers and sausages that probably taste worse than tofu, or real "once had hooves" meat.
I'm thinking that prize will remain unclaimed for a long time.
Will someone please look up target selection in the North Vietnam bombing campaigns? McNamara et al. decided that a computer generated random selection of bombing targets was just as likely to hit NVA targets as human gathered intelligence.
I actually got the reference here on/. - a coworker is big into "preparedness planning" (just don't ask how many guns he has), and I forwarded him the link, which is why I remember it.
"Because most of the jobs that I can think of that could be performed at home on a computer don't require a lot of Internet access. Maybe transferring one or two files from the office network but not any kind of constant data transfer back / forth."
While technically true, consider how a VPN works - you set up the connection, and now your remote computer ACTS like it is at the office. So, if you open a Word document, first it pulls the entire document over the VPN, and then writes back that stupid temp file. And since every good office worker has Autosave set up, every 5 minutes there is another disk write over the network. MS has made it so that there is a tremendous amount of LAN traffic possible while working in one of their apps, and now millions of computers are going to try to replicate that over the internet? And these same unsophisticated users, who may not have worked at home before or never experienced a low bandwidth home connection, are going to do what they always do when a command doesn't work immediately - try again.
Yeah, I really wouldn't plan on being able to get any work done at home in a pandemic flu situation unless one is network aware and does mostly everything offline, and then synchronizes at 0300.
Almost every single company out there has plans for a flu epidemic that consist of 1 line - "work at home on the internet". So they modeled it and - shocker - the system collapsed PDQ. It wasn't switches exploding, but everything slowing to a crawl so that it would be damned near impossible to actually get work done.
"How exactly would the US corporations "get SAP for free"? Is this related to the International Tit For Tat Ammendment to the US Constitution?"
No, it's called Mutual Assured Stupidity. If the EU wants to dissolve MS in Europe and confiscate its property for breaking the law, they can do that. The US also has the seam types of laws on the books, which means that the US could dissolve SAP in the US and confiscate its property, they could do that too. Why? Because somewhere, at some point, SAP has broken a US law and been found guilty - paid the fine, settled, whatever. *ALL* major corporations have done something illegal at some point - they even have internal cost codes for fines, etc. Therefore they are ALL subject to the corporate "death penalty", which is why it won't be invoked by the EU - there's too much at risk for everyone involved.
I had a similar thought, but for different reasons.
Remember those "silent" car alarms that were on the market years ago? You carries a pager with you, and if someone messed with your vehicle, the pager would go off, allowing you to call the police in safety.
Riiight.
Reality was that most people bought them so that they could go Chuck Norris on whoever was jackin' their ride. Unfortunately, the general fate of those who did respond in person to an attempted car theft was pretty poor - getting dead or injured to save your second hand IROC-Z wasn't a good trade-off after all.
The New Millennium version of this has "bad idea" written all over it.
"Most likely, the only papers that they will be able to vacate are those based on investigations taking place after being served with the C&D order. Whether that costs them enough evidence to prevent them from winning a judgment remains to be seen, however..."
As I understand it, MediaSentry is not licensed in the state of Massachusetts period. That means that their previous behavior was illegal as well. The C&D is a legal tool to make it absolutely clear to someone doing an activity that their actions are illegal - it does not relieve them of responsibility for those actions before the C&D.
The issue is not existing licenses, but new licenses - unless the EU governing structure is going to shrink (Not likely). And since MS's business model is partially based on selling new versions of their software to teh same people, they wouldn't be able to do that *directly* - which is what makes it such a farce. All it will mean is that the EU will pay 10% MORE for the same software they are going to buy anyway, because now they will pay for a reseller's markup.
Lets suppose MS is "banned" from selling to the EU. Expect
1) MS to sell it's products through "resellers".
2) Thousands of EU ministries and departments applying for waivers because the ABSOLUTELY MUST HAVE Powerpoint for them to continue in their vital work.
"They *should have* recognized a clear property line at the concrete drive."
Bullshit. Roads go from paved to unpaved to paved all of the time. If they were really that concerned, they would have had a "Public Road Ends" sign put up. The driver was following a public map of a public road and went a few yards too far - $5 will get you $20 it happens to these folks all of the time, with people making wrong turns.
These people haven't even asked Google to take it down - why are everyone ELSE's panties in a twist?
Sony has a history of producing technically superior proprietary products that are more expensive than the competition - and losing. Betamax, Memory Sticks, Mini discs. Then they grudgingly admit defeat and make a shitload of money building components based on someone else's storage technology, competing on price and quality.
But what do they do now? Their proprietary technology has won out, but have they ever been in this situation before? It sounds like there past and current plan is to make profit by keeping prices high due to keeping a tight grip their proprietary tech. But they've never gotten past the first market hurdle to see if that actually works - in their mind, their business model MUST work, because it hasn't actually *failed*, it was just never allowed to succeed.
I think Sony may be in for a harsh education in consumer economics and psychology.
Question: If the dead guy in question had been killed with a claymore, would a similar law banning straight, 2 edged weapons be proposed?
Answer: Hell no - too many of those hanging over mantelpieces all over England.
This is the same logic as those advocating "assault weapons" bans in the US: some weapons just look scawy, and being afraid of them, they use weapons at their disposal - money and influence - to eliminate the perceived threat. What they won't admit in public, or even to themselves, is that they aren't really afraid of the weapon but of people with the skill and knowledge on how to use them. they believe that by removing the weapon, they will neuter the person, eliminating them as a threat. But people aren't dangerous because of their weapons, but in the knowledge and willpower to apply force.
Put another way, ask MS-13 and the Rwandans about machetes - you don't need a gun to kill.
"Legislation against selling, making, hiring or importing samurai swords in England and Wales has come into force. Those breaking the law face six months in jail and a £5,000 fine. Carrying a sword in public is already illegal. Exemptions will cover swords which are used for re-enactments or antique weapons kept on display by collectors. Eight years ago a councillor was killed by a man wielding a samurai sword in the office of Cheltenham Liberal Democrat MP Nigel Jones. Anyone found guilty of importing samurai swords will face up to seven years in prison and an unlimited fine."
I carpool with a guy that is going through an amicable divorce that is turning messier by the day. She communicate a LOT by text message - not "Pick up some milk" but "I think we should go to counseling" and "I hate you and I never want to talk to you again". Texting has given her the ability to vomit out all her surface thoughts without the burden of reflection or instant feedback from a face to face conversation. Lovely.
Wasn't there a US anti-trust case that showed significant evidence of undocumented API calls?
Didn't MS kill DR-DOS by putting a specific check in Windows 3.x for that OS and then putting up a BS "Incompatible" warning, and then making it run poorly to "confirm" the "incombatibility"?
Wasn't MS being fined an insane amount money per day by the EU for not issuing all the server info that wasn't already published, until MS basically said "Uncle!"
And the last question: Why am I bothering to respond to an obvious MS shill who can't be bothered to post under his username? I guess I am an idiot after all.
I'm guessing the reason MS hasn't done this already is their heavy reliance on undocumented API calls and all the little hidden "tweaks" MS puts into their OS's to make sure MS apps run OK: "IF App=Word97,THEN [some custom module no one knows about except a programmer that isn't there anymore]. And I'm pretty sure there are a shipload of those. So by the time you have created the emulation layer, you have basically recreated the older OS.
This one might be the bridge too far. Vista is making a lot of organization look again at their commitment to Microsoft. Even if they bite on Vista (which they aren't doing in droves), they might just throw in the towel if faced with running old apps in emulation - hell, VMware will do that now.
Think of it another way - Lucy pulling the football out of the way every time is funny because we know, in real life, Charlie Brown would have told her to fuck off already.
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"What exactly then, did SAMBA license?"
Ummm, the other 20%?
"can see it now... an Iraqi dissident is hiding in a ditch near Baghdad, determined to ambush the next American patrol, then reconsiders because he's distracted by the sergeant's spectacular breasts....that might just work. Hooraay! Fake Tits for everyone!"
Somebody's been reading John Ringo.
"scientists in labs have grown ... breast implants..."
So soon those penis enlargement ads won't be just a scam?
Not that I need anything like that...
You are suggesting the GP use wikipedia as "research"? Sure, that's the definitive answer to all life's questions - a million monkey who think they are smarter than they really are.
"ever seen a farm pig or a farm cow in the wild?"
Actually, "farm pigs" can do quite well in the wild. All of the "wild boar" in the US (with the exception of the peccary, I think) are former domesticated pigs let out to forage. And they can be quite successful - ask the Hawaiians. Pigs are extremely intelligent, and not very picky eater. They are also tasty animals, as my 5 year old daughter put it after being told where bacon comes from.
My guess would be that the only domesticated animals that wouldn't "make it" in the wild (in the species sense) would be domesticated fowl. Chicken and turkey are literally too dumb to live without human intervention. Cows would do OK - an ungelded bull can take care of himself and his harem just fine. The wild ponies in the US are also remnants from domesticated horses, and goats would be OK too. Sheep? Maybe - it would keep the predator population happy, though.
Please don't get me wrong - I don't agree with the vegan philosophy whatsoever. I just believe that particular argument against veganism is weak.
Finally;
Omnivore:(n)1. A vegan whose Prius just hit a wild cow they "liberated".
"vat-o-meat will have just as much fat and cholesterol as the real stuff."
Actually, probably not. As I understand it, all the techniques of "culturing" cells are directed toward making all the cells the same - if there are different types of cells in the culture, it is considered a failure. So "cultured meat" would be ALL muscle cells, with no fat cells or connective tissue. Which, while pleasing the health conscious, would be a culinary disaster - picture the toughest, driest steak on the planet.
One solution would be to culture genetically engineered fat cells with little bad cholesterol, and then grind it in with the cultured meat. So the choices would be hamburgers and sausages that probably taste worse than tofu, or real "once had hooves" meat.
I'm thinking that prize will remain unclaimed for a long time.
Oops - just realized I referenced bombing Northern Virginia. Obviously, that would be a bad ide....
Nevermind. Carry on.
Will someone please look up target selection in the North Vietnam bombing campaigns? McNamara et al. decided that a computer generated random selection of bombing targets was just as likely to hit NVA targets as human gathered intelligence.
Worked real well, didn't it?
I actually got the reference here on /. - a coworker is big into "preparedness planning" (just don't ask how many guns he has), and I forwarded him the link, which is why I remember it.
"Because most of the jobs that I can think of that could be performed at home on a computer don't require a lot of Internet access. Maybe transferring one or two files from the office network but not any kind of constant data transfer back / forth."
While technically true, consider how a VPN works - you set up the connection, and now your remote computer ACTS like it is at the office. So, if you open a Word document, first it pulls the entire document over the VPN, and then writes back that stupid temp file. And since every good office worker has Autosave set up, every 5 minutes there is another disk write over the network. MS has made it so that there is a tremendous amount of LAN traffic possible while working in one of their apps, and now millions of computers are going to try to replicate that over the internet? And these same unsophisticated users, who may not have worked at home before or never experienced a low bandwidth home connection, are going to do what they always do when a command doesn't work immediately - try again.
Yeah, I really wouldn't plan on being able to get any work done at home in a pandemic flu situation unless one is network aware and does mostly everything offline, and then synchronizes at 0300.
Almost every single company out there has plans for a flu epidemic that consist of 1 line - "work at home on the internet". So they modeled it and - shocker - the system collapsed PDQ. It wasn't switches exploding, but everything slowing to a crawl so that it would be damned near impossible to actually get work done.
"How exactly would the US corporations "get SAP for free"? Is this related to the International Tit For Tat Ammendment to the US Constitution?"
No, it's called Mutual Assured Stupidity. If the EU wants to dissolve MS in Europe and confiscate its property for breaking the law, they can do that. The US also has the seam types of laws on the books, which means that the US could dissolve SAP in the US and confiscate its property, they could do that too. Why? Because somewhere, at some point, SAP has broken a US law and been found guilty - paid the fine, settled, whatever. *ALL* major corporations have done something illegal at some point - they even have internal cost codes for fines, etc. Therefore they are ALL subject to the corporate "death penalty", which is why it won't be invoked by the EU - there's too much at risk for everyone involved.
I had a similar thought, but for different reasons.
Remember those "silent" car alarms that were on the market years ago? You carries a pager with you, and if someone messed with your vehicle, the pager would go off, allowing you to call the police in safety.
Riiight.
Reality was that most people bought them so that they could go Chuck Norris on whoever was jackin' their ride. Unfortunately, the general fate of those who did respond in person to an attempted car theft was pretty poor - getting dead or injured to save your second hand IROC-Z wasn't a good trade-off after all.
The New Millennium version of this has "bad idea" written all over it.
"I swear your a bunch of emo kids..."
No, the emo kids on Slashdot feel a need to make those posts, and then mod them up. It's a troll that has a big enough group behind it to support it.
That being said, read the FAQ - this is a US centric site. Deal with it.
"Most likely, the only papers that they will be able to vacate are those based on investigations taking place after being served with the C&D order. Whether that costs them enough evidence to prevent them from winning a judgment remains to be seen, however..."
As I understand it, MediaSentry is not licensed in the state of Massachusetts period. That means that their previous behavior was illegal as well. The C&D is a legal tool to make it absolutely clear to someone doing an activity that their actions are illegal - it does not relieve them of responsibility for those actions before the C&D.
The issue is not existing licenses, but new licenses - unless the EU governing structure is going to shrink (Not likely). And since MS's business model is partially based on selling new versions of their software to teh same people, they wouldn't be able to do that *directly* - which is what makes it such a farce. All it will mean is that the EU will pay 10% MORE for the same software they are going to buy anyway, because now they will pay for a reseller's markup.
Lets suppose MS is "banned" from selling to the EU. Expect
1) MS to sell it's products through "resellers".
2) Thousands of EU ministries and departments applying for waivers because the ABSOLUTELY MUST HAVE Powerpoint for them to continue in their vital work.
"They *should have* recognized a clear property line at the concrete drive."
Bullshit. Roads go from paved to unpaved to paved all of the time. If they were really that concerned, they would have had a "Public Road Ends" sign put up. The driver was following a public map of a public road and went a few yards too far - $5 will get you $20 it happens to these folks all of the time, with people making wrong turns.
These people haven't even asked Google to take it down - why are everyone ELSE's panties in a twist?
"Optical drives have been left out to prevent kids from playing 'unauthorized games."
Riiiight. So kids have never heard of a flash drive?
Sony has a history of producing technically superior proprietary products that are more expensive than the competition - and losing. Betamax, Memory Sticks, Mini discs. Then they grudgingly admit defeat and make a shitload of money building components based on someone else's storage technology, competing on price and quality.
But what do they do now? Their proprietary technology has won out, but have they ever been in this situation before? It sounds like there past and current plan is to make profit by keeping prices high due to keeping a tight grip their proprietary tech. But they've never gotten past the first market hurdle to see if that actually works - in their mind, their business model MUST work, because it hasn't actually *failed*, it was just never allowed to succeed.
I think Sony may be in for a harsh education in consumer economics and psychology.
I think it's more racism than anything else.
Question: If the dead guy in question had been killed with a claymore, would a similar law banning straight, 2 edged weapons be proposed?
Answer: Hell no - too many of those hanging over mantelpieces all over England.
This is the same logic as those advocating "assault weapons" bans in the US: some weapons just look scawy, and being afraid of them, they use weapons at their disposal - money and influence - to eliminate the perceived threat. What they won't admit in public, or even to themselves, is that they aren't really afraid of the weapon but of people with the skill and knowledge on how to use them. they believe that by removing the weapon, they will neuter the person, eliminating them as a threat. But people aren't dangerous because of their weapons, but in the knowledge and willpower to apply force.
Put another way, ask MS-13 and the Rwandans about machetes - you don't need a gun to kill.
Hope you don't live in England:
"Legislation against selling, making, hiring or importing samurai swords in England and Wales has come into force. Those breaking the law face six months in jail and a £5,000 fine. Carrying a sword in public is already illegal. Exemptions will cover swords which are used for re-enactments or antique weapons kept on display by collectors. Eight years ago a councillor was killed by a man wielding a samurai sword in the office of Cheltenham Liberal Democrat MP Nigel Jones. Anyone found guilty of importing samurai swords will face up to seven years in prison and an unlimited fine."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7331099.stm
I carpool with a guy that is going through an amicable divorce that is turning messier by the day. She communicate a LOT by text message - not "Pick up some milk" but "I think we should go to counseling" and "I hate you and I never want to talk to you again". Texting has given her the ability to vomit out all her surface thoughts without the burden of reflection or instant feedback from a face to face conversation. Lovely.
Wasn't there a US anti-trust case that showed significant evidence of undocumented API calls?
Didn't MS kill DR-DOS by putting a specific check in Windows 3.x for that OS and then putting up a BS "Incompatible" warning, and then making it run poorly to "confirm" the "incombatibility"?
Wasn't MS being fined an insane amount money per day by the EU for not issuing all the server info that wasn't already published, until MS basically said "Uncle!"
And the last question: Why am I bothering to respond to an obvious MS shill who can't be bothered to post under his username? I guess I am an idiot after all.
I'm guessing the reason MS hasn't done this already is their heavy reliance on undocumented API calls and all the little hidden "tweaks" MS puts into their OS's to make sure MS apps run OK: "IF App=Word97,THEN [some custom module no one knows about except a programmer that isn't there anymore]. And I'm pretty sure there are a shipload of those. So by the time you have created the emulation layer, you have basically recreated the older OS.
This one might be the bridge too far. Vista is making a lot of organization look again at their commitment to Microsoft. Even if they bite on Vista (which they aren't doing in droves), they might just throw in the towel if faced with running old apps in emulation - hell, VMware will do that now.
Think of it another way - Lucy pulling the football out of the way every time is funny because we know, in real life, Charlie Brown would have told her to fuck off already.