"Also the search could bring out irrelevant information which leads to flawed conclusions."
And it continues to do so. Such as, concluding what someone else was thinking at the time the results were returned.
I'm sure most of the people here on slashdot have gone into an interview, nailed it and still didn't get the job. I had one such occasion where 1 person blocked my being hired and that was for some personal feelings on their part. I know this because I was hired by another group in the same company. I could speculate all day about why or what that person was feeling, but I will never know for sure.
Actually, this proves the point that this proves nothing.
Were they looking for a controversial abortionist who used guns and firearms to hunt gays and homosexuals? I don't know about you, but I wouldn't hire that person.
This is just another moment in the history of 'Gotcha' politics, which is more about filling the current news cycle then facts or reason. I don't know how anyone can keep a straight face trying to keep this canard about the politicization of the JD afloat on the same day when the longest serving republican is indicted by the JD.
As opposed to getting 100% of your salary after 25-30 years. That's a hell of a deal. I've been in a jury room with some state employees who were literally counting the days until the could retire with full benefits. Made me feel sick.
I don't think this proves anything and the article is overly sensational. Any hiring manager anywhere should and could run a background check. That is just common sense. Searching for this term or that term with a persons name doesn't prove that there was an automatic decision made from the results.
These were supposed to be non-political jobs. If the applicant is a hard-core democrat or republican (which were both terms searched for), that should be a factor in their consideration. See how that cuts both ways. This is not a smoking gun, in and of itself.
I find it tragic that in the same news cycle that (R) Sen. Ted Stevens is indicted that we still have morons saying that Bush politicized the Justice Department. It spits in the face of reality and brings nothing but feelings of pity for all the deluded idiots that inhabit the inter-tubes.
A lot of teachers, as well as other state employees, are guaranteed outrageous retirement benefits. As a senior programmer, I have a 401k and social security, neither of which is guaranteed. I honestly don't think that this is right.
This is the same idea that got the clipper-graham killed off and the reason why we don't have a replacement for the space shuttle. We don't need a Kennedy-esque-mission-analog, what we need is the national will to build the technology we already have. We have plenty of them, but the road blocks to implement them are enormous. Even in the most inhospitable places in America, there is some land turtle or grub beetle that needs to be saved.
Al is a shameless self-promoter who over promises and under delivers. He ignores his failures and always moves on to the next great thing (for him).
He won an Emmy for a web site that wasn't even working when he got nominated. He won the Nobel prize and an Oscar for making a documentary that contained none of his own research and misrepresented the work of others. And he has made bucket loads of money doing these things.
If he once practiced what he preached, it would be the first time.
I just don't think you can draw conclusions from these types of actions. A single event could skewer the results in any number of ways. I haven't looked at the link you provided, but I will. I know the study I looked at was for a very short period of time and included one-off events like the Virginia Tech shootings. Also, they relied on news clippings, which normally don't include things like the race of those involved.
I'm sure that if you look at things like bee stings or lightning strikes over a short period of time you could make similar declarative statements that would be equally erroneous.
It's not a zero-sum game and never has been. The bazaar model is not a replacement for the cathedral model, both can exist and flourish. The attitude that you are either with us or against us is flawed.
At this point, I don't see how MS can roll back the gains that Linux has made. These moves are probably a realization on their part of that fact. They never crushed Apple (far more evil and closed, in my eyes) and never really tried. Most of the examples of embrace, extend and extinguish were helped by the greed and incompetence of those who were embraced, extended and extinguished.
A study from the Washington, D.C.-based Violence Policy Center indicates about 10 such cases occur each week in the United States. Statistics are hard to come by, however, because no single agency records murder-suicide cases, experts say.
"The FBI tracks homicides and the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) tracks suicides. There is no mechanism that puts those together," said Kristen Rand, legislative director for the Violence Policy Center.
The nonprofit group used a news clipping service to collect information on murder-suicide cases that occurred throughout the nation during the first half of 2005.
"It's really the most comprehensive data collection of murder-suicide events in the U.S.," Rand said.
While experts say murder-suicide crosses all age groups and socioeconomic backgrounds, they have detected some common characteristics among the perpetrators.
There is often a history of domestic violence; pre-existing mental health issues, including past suicide attempts; and a strong, emotional attachment to the victim.
I'm not holding my breath for any relevant data. Here's the best I could come up with...
I'm guessing that you are using this one study to back up your claims, which is pretty pathetic, cause the authors don't seem to agree with you at all.
Contains no useful data except a summary that repeats the same information that started this thread.
"More accurately called homicide-suicide, the most common scenario involves an estranged white male in his 40s killing his spouse and possibly children before committing suicide."
You focused entirely on race/sex and left out the socio-economic data point. You also didn't provide any data at all or where you got your data from.
Does the data take into account that there are more caucasians in the US then other races? Does the data take into account that there are more caucasian families in the US or that a greater proportion of minority families do not have a father in the house? Is the data only from the US? Without a citation or the raw data, these questions are unaswerable.
I seriously doubt that the data will even back up your initial assertions, as the number of these types of crimes are not very great.
To paraphrase Einstein, the most incomprehensible thing about the universe is that we can comprehend it.
Of course, he could be wrong about that. I think it is easy to prove that the universe has become more complex since the big bang (if you believe in it, that is). I also think that the universe is not finished becoming more complex. It may turn out that physics is trying to hit a moving target and that we may never have a Complete Theory of Everything, because Everything isn't finished yet.
Except for one blogger, no scientists have been threatened with prosecution. The article just says that they could be prosecuted, maybe, and that they should have run this by some lawyers and/or some oversight commitee.
I hope they are not reprimanded and not fined because they clearly had no intention of wiretapping anyone and made no attempt to identify individuals or correlate their actions. 150 bytes of exit data barely gets them past the TCP/UDP and IP layers.
I fail to see how the government or any of the others you named are responsible for Tor being insecure.
Tor is an example of why layers of security are not cumalative. The weakest link is not strengthened by putting a plastic sleeve around the chain or putting a bigger lock on the end.
Could you please provide a link to the coming open source secure network, cause I've never heard of such a thing and would love to take a look at it.
I wish I was so easily amused. It's been awhile since sending an email was fun.
I have a T-mobile wing, which I got for free by ordering online. It plays X-Com, the full version with touch screen controls, which is really, really fun. I didn't get it for that reason, but it sure was a nice bonus.
I truly feel sorry for you, ie, your pathetic attempt to say something intelligent and coming off as an intellectually egotistical asshole, eg, your last post.
People may feel that way, but only a very few denominations believe that. Having been educated in a Catholic school, I've talked to many priests and nuns who will gladly discuss the history of the bible, including things like which books were written in aramaic, greek or latin and when they were written.
This is exactly what I am talking about. It's a self-fulfilling observation and every time I bring it up, it is proven.
Here's a hint: have some empathy and put yourself in the place of the woman. What would you want the other person to do?
I'm sure you would want the other person to do something. Maybe call 911 or try to attract other peoples attention to your plight. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be thinking about the well being of the mugger.
"Life: there are no right answers, only different outcomes."
Moral relativism is pathetic, hyper-materialism even worse...
This is just not true. Christians are singled out on slashdot and any story even remotely related (ie ID) will be twisted into a hate fest towards them.
On the other hand, a story about Islam will generally generate lots of sympathetic noises along the lines of how mis-understood they are and how a few bad apples don't the whole bunch (girl).
This is a very relevant point to this discussion as christians already know that the bible was invented and not holy writ. Unlike muslims who believe that the koran is holy writ, passing directly from the archangel Gabby's lips to Muhamed's ear.
If a dead sea scroll type revelation ever occured in Islam (and it may), it would be a very bad thing for a central tenent of their faith.
As opposed to whom? Are you trying to say that the Brits did a better job when they ruled a third of the globe? Or maybe the russians when they imposed an iron curtain on Eastern Europe? Or maybe the Ottomans, when they invaded all of the lands around them and cut down all of the trees in Greece, made slaves of Greek children and marched them home?
I'm not going to apologize or feel bad about history, cause we'll never know the alternative.
I'm sure that Osama Bin Laden thought history was justification for flying planes into buildings and killing a bunch of civilians and giving the US govenment the justification for invading two countries and causing uncountable misery for millions. Someday, we might find out the answer, but frankly I couldn't care less.
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"Also the search could bring out irrelevant information which leads to flawed conclusions."
And it continues to do so. Such as, concluding what someone else was thinking at the time the results were returned.
I'm sure most of the people here on slashdot have gone into an interview, nailed it and still didn't get the job. I had one such occasion where 1 person blocked my being hired and that was for some personal feelings on their part. I know this because I was hired by another group in the same company. I could speculate all day about why or what that person was feeling, but I will never know for sure.
Actually, this proves the point that this proves nothing.
Were they looking for a controversial abortionist who used guns and firearms to hunt gays and homosexuals? I don't know about you, but I wouldn't hire that person.
This is just another moment in the history of 'Gotcha' politics, which is more about filling the current news cycle then facts or reason. I don't know how anyone can keep a straight face trying to keep this canard about the politicization of the JD afloat on the same day when the longest serving republican is indicted by the JD.
As opposed to getting 100% of your salary after 25-30 years. That's a hell of a deal. I've been in a jury room with some state employees who were literally counting the days until the could retire with full benefits. Made me feel sick.
I don't think this proves anything and the article is overly sensational. Any hiring manager anywhere should and could run a background check. That is just common sense. Searching for this term or that term with a persons name doesn't prove that there was an automatic decision made from the results.
These were supposed to be non-political jobs. If the applicant is a hard-core democrat or republican (which were both terms searched for), that should be a factor in their consideration. See how that cuts both ways. This is not a smoking gun, in and of itself.
I find it tragic that in the same news cycle that (R) Sen. Ted Stevens is indicted that we still have morons saying that Bush politicized the Justice Department. It spits in the face of reality and brings nothing but feelings of pity for all the deluded idiots that inhabit the inter-tubes.
A lot of teachers, as well as other state employees, are guaranteed outrageous retirement benefits. As a senior programmer, I have a 401k and social security, neither of which is guaranteed. I honestly don't think that this is right.
This is the same idea that got the clipper-graham killed off and the reason why we don't have a replacement for the space shuttle. We don't need a Kennedy-esque-mission-analog, what we need is the national will to build the technology we already have. We have plenty of them, but the road blocks to implement them are enormous. Even in the most inhospitable places in America, there is some land turtle or grub beetle that needs to be saved.
Al is a shameless self-promoter who over promises and under delivers. He ignores his failures and always moves on to the next great thing (for him).
He won an Emmy for a web site that wasn't even working when he got nominated. He won the Nobel prize and an Oscar for making a documentary that contained none of his own research and misrepresented the work of others. And he has made bucket loads of money doing these things.
If he once practiced what he preached, it would be the first time.
I just don't think you can draw conclusions from these types of actions. A single event could skewer the results in any number of ways. I haven't looked at the link you provided, but I will. I know the study I looked at was for a very short period of time and included one-off events like the Virginia Tech shootings. Also, they relied on news clippings, which normally don't include things like the race of those involved.
I'm sure that if you look at things like bee stings or lightning strikes over a short period of time you could make similar declarative statements that would be equally erroneous.
It's not a zero-sum game and never has been. The bazaar model is not a replacement for the cathedral model, both can exist and flourish. The attitude that you are either with us or against us is flawed.
At this point, I don't see how MS can roll back the gains that Linux has made. These moves are probably a realization on their part of that fact. They never crushed Apple (far more evil and closed, in my eyes) and never really tried. Most of the examples of embrace, extend and extinguish were helped by the greed and incompetence of those who were embraced, extended and extinguished.
A study from the Washington, D.C.-based Violence Policy Center indicates about 10 such cases occur each week in the United States. Statistics are hard to come by, however, because no single agency records murder-suicide cases, experts say. "The FBI tracks homicides and the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) tracks suicides. There is no mechanism that puts those together," said Kristen Rand, legislative director for the Violence Policy Center. The nonprofit group used a news clipping service to collect information on murder-suicide cases that occurred throughout the nation during the first half of 2005. "It's really the most comprehensive data collection of murder-suicide events in the U.S.," Rand said. While experts say murder-suicide crosses all age groups and socioeconomic backgrounds, they have detected some common characteristics among the perpetrators. There is often a history of domestic violence; pre-existing mental health issues, including past suicide attempts; and a strong, emotional attachment to the victim.
I'm not holding my breath for any relevant data. Here's the best I could come up with...
I'm guessing that you are using this one study to back up your claims, which is pretty pathetic, cause the authors don't seem to agree with you at all.
Contains no useful data except a summary that repeats the same information that started this thread.
"More accurately called homicide-suicide, the most common scenario involves an estranged white male in his 40s killing his spouse and possibly children before committing suicide."
I asked for data, this aint it.
You focused entirely on race/sex and left out the socio-economic data point. You also didn't provide any data at all or where you got your data from.
Does the data take into account that there are more caucasians in the US then other races? Does the data take into account that there are more caucasian families in the US or that a greater proportion of minority families do not have a father in the house? Is the data only from the US? Without a citation or the raw data, these questions are unaswerable.
I seriously doubt that the data will even back up your initial assertions, as the number of these types of crimes are not very great.
"This guy has PROVEN that Foxconn TARGETS speciffically Linux and BREAKS IT."
What he has proven is that Foxconn targets Windows. I'm pretty sure that this mobo doesn't work with OSX, BSD, etc.
The bazaar model doesn't require homogenity, that's the cathedral model.
Where as non-caucasian males would, customarily, just walk away with no guilt and no feelings of any responsibility?
Sounds pretty racist, any way you want to try to advance that argument.
Get a Clue... that's Life.
To paraphrase Einstein, the most incomprehensible thing about the universe is that we can comprehend it.
Of course, he could be wrong about that. I think it is easy to prove that the universe has become more complex since the big bang (if you believe in it, that is). I also think that the universe is not finished becoming more complex. It may turn out that physics is trying to hit a moving target and that we may never have a Complete Theory of Everything, because Everything isn't finished yet.
Something to think about...
Except for one blogger, no scientists have been threatened with prosecution. The article just says that they could be prosecuted, maybe, and that they should have run this by some lawyers and/or some oversight commitee.
I hope they are not reprimanded and not fined because they clearly had no intention of wiretapping anyone and made no attempt to identify individuals or correlate their actions. 150 bytes of exit data barely gets them past the TCP/UDP and IP layers.
I fail to see how the government or any of the others you named are responsible for Tor being insecure.
Tor is an example of why layers of security are not cumalative. The weakest link is not strengthened by putting a plastic sleeve around the chain or putting a bigger lock on the end.
Could you please provide a link to the coming open source secure network, cause I've never heard of such a thing and would love to take a look at it.
I wish I was so easily amused. It's been awhile since sending an email was fun.
I have a T-mobile wing, which I got for free by ordering online. It plays X-Com, the full version with touch screen controls, which is really, really fun. I didn't get it for that reason, but it sure was a nice bonus.
I truly feel sorry for you, ie, your pathetic attempt to say something intelligent and coming off as an intellectually egotistical asshole, eg, your last post.
People may feel that way, but only a very few denominations believe that. Having been educated in a Catholic school, I've talked to many priests and nuns who will gladly discuss the history of the bible, including things like which books were written in aramaic, greek or latin and when they were written.
This is exactly what I am talking about. It's a self-fulfilling observation and every time I bring it up, it is proven.
I'm not a christian, it's just something I've noticed about the slashdot crowd.
Here's a hint: have some empathy and put yourself in the place of the woman. What would you want the other person to do?
I'm sure you would want the other person to do something. Maybe call 911 or try to attract other peoples attention to your plight. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be thinking about the well being of the mugger.
"Life: there are no right answers, only different outcomes."
Moral relativism is pathetic, hyper-materialism even worse...
This is just not true. Christians are singled out on slashdot and any story even remotely related (ie ID) will be twisted into a hate fest towards them.
On the other hand, a story about Islam will generally generate lots of sympathetic noises along the lines of how mis-understood they are and how a few bad apples don't the whole bunch (girl).
This is a very relevant point to this discussion as christians already know that the bible was invented and not holy writ. Unlike muslims who believe that the koran is holy writ, passing directly from the archangel Gabby's lips to Muhamed's ear.
If a dead sea scroll type revelation ever occured in Islam (and it may), it would be a very bad thing for a central tenent of their faith.
As opposed to whom? Are you trying to say that the Brits did a better job when they ruled a third of the globe? Or maybe the russians when they imposed an iron curtain on Eastern Europe? Or maybe the Ottomans, when they invaded all of the lands around them and cut down all of the trees in Greece, made slaves of Greek children and marched them home?
I'm not going to apologize or feel bad about history, cause we'll never know the alternative.
I'm sure that Osama Bin Laden thought history was justification for flying planes into buildings and killing a bunch of civilians and giving the US govenment the justification for invading two countries and causing uncountable misery for millions. Someday, we might find out the answer, but frankly I couldn't care less.