By proving they're human. Make them take one of thse reverse turing tests (you know, type the number you see in the picture), and then use a digital signature to prove who they are in the future.
The best thing is, this kind of system can be used with the existing protocols. When you get a message from someone you don't know, just bounce them back a reply with a URL to take the test (or something). Once they take it, forward their email the rest of the way.
Of course, most people don't have crypto stuff installed, but untill they do you can just 'trust' their email address.
No changes needed to the law, or other people's behavior. Just your own mail server.
The guy is running the tech for the only currently-successful PC clone operation. In fact, Dell is often held up as a paragon of effective use of technology in the supply chain.
Personally, I think we should use "whole internets" as storage measurements. They would be just as accurate as LOCs, I bet. And the great thing is, the basic unit would increase in size over time.
So you right now, a $200 hard drive could store, maybe, 46 picoWOIs, and in the future, a $200 hard drive might still store 46 picoWOIs, since the size of the internet goes up!
Or how about 'brainfulls'? About the amount of information that can be stored in a human brain. That would be kind of cool:P. we'd have to figure out how much can actually be stored, of course...
also hard to teach a little kid to set fire to his shoes. Thank you shoe bomber for making sure I have to have good socks on every time I travel by air.
Well, if you knew the kid wasn't going to be searched, you could simply put a timed explosive in his backpack, under his shirt, wherever.
What if you got some tim mcveigh type, who would probably pass such a test (if his milita ties were unknown), and would be able to sneak all the weaponry he wanted onboard.
Actualy, when I submitted the first one I got a reply saying "there has been an error with your submission", I typed the whole damn thing over again too.
Do you really think Al-Quada wouldn't strap bombs on a 5 year old if they thought they would have a better chance of getting through?
Any time you focus more resources on one group, you have less on another. There's no getting around that. All the terrorists need to do is send their agents on lots of flights to see which ones get checked least often, and use them to carry the weapons/bombs.
Do you really think Al-Quada wouldn't stick bombs on a little kid if they thought it would have a better chance of getting through?
Whenever you focus your attention on one catagory of people, you make it easier then it could be for another group. All the terrorists have to do is fly their members around a lot, and see who gets checked most often. The ones that don't, carry the bombs and stuff.
For the most part now I'd rather drive to wherever I'm going then take an intra-continental flight. Security is so insane there, it's not even funny. just the other day a Canadian citizen was sent to India because INS officials thought (for some reason) her passport was invalid.
Not that any of this stuff is even necessary to prevent hijacking (just lock the cabin door, and have passengers fight back), or bombing (use bomb detectors!). Simple, obvious things like that are the way to prevent 9/11 type disasters, not creepy big-brother bullshit.
Its nothing more then a power-grab by totalitarians.
Her writing is mostly fine. I didn't notice any glaring grammar errors (though at least one obnoxious pendant on slashdot pointed one out), and I doubt she would be in the position she's in (a journalist) if she couldn't write well.
I think the main problem she had was that everyone knows about her school-girl crush on Vincentie Fox
You get something that looks interesting, you forward it. It couldn't POSSIBLY have been intended for ONLY you.
Well, of course if she would have written "THIS IS ONLY FOR YOU GUYS, DON'T FORWARD IT!" at the top of her message, she probably wouldn't be having this problem. And if she did, she would have a lot more ground to stand on. Why would you assume that a 'mass' mail (which she called it) was not to be forwarded?
PGP actualy has a sort-of DRM option. You can set things up so that a message is only displayed graphicaly (or on the console screen) and can be saved or redirected.
You can't stop someone from taking a screen-grab or retyping the text. But there's a good chance this level of crypto would have prevented the sort of 'hey check this out' forwarding that got this letter posted all over the 'web.
She could have created a word doc with DRM, keeping her friends from forwarding it.
Anyway, another interesting thing about this was how the lawmeme article is basically telling the story of the life of a metafilter thread. MeFi is a pretty cool website that I post on regularly (although, I missed this story). Slashdot gets mentioned in the press often, but slashdot blows. I'm not really proud to be associated with it:P
I almost wondered if it wasn't a hoax. A lot of people with various agendas from global-warming to christian fundementalism like to make up faked 'forward-this' emails.
actually some of those who flipped out are neither psychotic nor nerds. in fact they're pretty nice people.
So, are you saying that it's impossible for nice people to be crazy?
I would think that one could be both insane and polite.
Not more common, more memorable.
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The reason people have this stereo-type of 'weird' kids is the same reason they have stereo-types for a lot of people (like blacks, Mexicans, etc)
When someone does something bad, and they belong do a group you don't have a lot of experience with, you'll remember it. And so it will represent a large portion of the data about that group. If you only hear about and remember well, say, 10 black people in your life and 1 of them was involved in a robbery, you think 'P(black==criminal) =.1', even if the actual number of black people who are criminals are way less.
It's the same with 'nerds/weirdoes'. If you avoid nerds you wont think about them much unless something happens involving them that really sticks out to you.
An important mark of intelligence is the ability to weed out these extemporaneous associations and base your thoughts on the real data.
I can never remember if I'm a lawyer or not either
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Yeah, I think your username is funny. That is all.
Whats wrong with delivering pizza?
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I think it would be a kick-ass job, and you get a ton of money in tips as well (from the non-assholes)
I would probably try it as a in-collage job if my driving record wasn't so terrible.
Your comment is especially ironic, given your username....
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I mean, this would be the equivalent of raiding AT&T or Qwest in the us.
By proving they're human. Make them take one of thse reverse turing tests (you know, type the number you see in the picture), and then use a digital signature to prove who they are in the future.
The best thing is, this kind of system can be used with the existing protocols. When you get a message from someone you don't know, just bounce them back a reply with a URL to take the test (or something). Once they take it, forward their email the rest of the way.
Of course, most people don't have crypto stuff installed, but untill they do you can just 'trust' their email address.
No changes needed to the law, or other people's behavior. Just your own mail server.
I mean seriously, it seems to be about as leaky as windows. And the configuration! Oh my god.
Postfix is so much simpler and easy to use it's rediculous.
The guy is running the tech for the only currently-successful PC clone operation. In fact, Dell is often held up as a paragon of effective use of technology in the supply chain.
How is this not a real job?
I always got annoyed with starcraft, being only able to control about 100 elements at a time, max. Most of the time you were limited to even less.
:P
I'd like to see an RTS that let you control thousands of elements at a time. Maybe they could save CPU time by mirroring some guys, or something.
How lame would it be to have the final battle of the ring with just 100 guys total
Personally, I think we should use "whole internets" as storage measurements. They would be just as accurate as LOCs, I bet. And the great thing is, the basic unit would increase in size over time.
:P. we'd have to figure out how much can actually be stored, of course...
So you right now, a $200 hard drive could store, maybe, 46 picoWOIs, and in the future, a $200 hard drive might still store 46 picoWOIs, since the size of the internet goes up!
Or how about 'brainfulls'? About the amount of information that can be stored in a human brain. That would be kind of cool
also hard to teach a little kid to set fire to his shoes. Thank you shoe bomber for making sure I have to have good socks on every time I travel by air.
Well, if you knew the kid wasn't going to be searched, you could simply put a timed explosive in his backpack, under his shirt, wherever.
Personaly, I'd be fine with reduced searches
If that's 'fucked', fuck me more ;) I thought it was very encouraging.
:P
Acknowlaging that world leaders realize the world is screwed is all well and good, but I would prefer the world not be screwed in the first place
What if you got some tim mcveigh type, who would probably pass such a test (if his milita ties were unknown), and would be able to sneak all the weaponry he wanted onboard.
Actualy, when I submitted the first one I got a reply saying "there has been an error with your submission", I typed the whole damn thing over again too.
Do you really think Al-Quada wouldn't strap bombs on a 5 year old if they thought they would have a better chance of getting through?
Any time you focus more resources on one group, you have less on another. There's no getting around that. All the terrorists need to do is send their agents on lots of flights to see which ones get checked least often, and use them to carry the weapons/bombs.
Do you really think Al-Quada wouldn't stick bombs on a little kid if they thought it would have a better chance of getting through?
Whenever you focus your attention on one catagory of people, you make it easier then it could be for another group. All the terrorists have to do is fly their members around a lot, and see who gets checked most often. The ones that don't, carry the bombs and stuff.
For the most part now I'd rather drive to wherever I'm going then take an intra-continental flight. Security is so insane there, it's not even funny. just the other day a Canadian citizen was sent to India because INS officials thought (for some reason) her passport was invalid.
Not that any of this stuff is even necessary to prevent hijacking (just lock the cabin door, and have passengers fight back), or bombing (use bomb detectors!). Simple, obvious things like that are the way to prevent 9/11 type disasters, not creepy big-brother bullshit.
Its nothing more then a power-grab by totalitarians.
she probably ought to get some thicker skinned friends.
Her writing is mostly fine. I didn't notice any glaring grammar errors (though at least one obnoxious pendant on slashdot pointed one out), and I doubt she would be in the position she's in (a journalist) if she couldn't write well.
I think the main problem she had was that everyone knows about her school-girl crush on Vincentie Fox
Of course, the woman who this is credited to has confirmed as legitimate.
So, maybe when you get invited to hob-knob with world leaders, I'll accept your judgment of her.
You get something that looks interesting, you forward it. It couldn't POSSIBLY have been intended for ONLY you.
Well, of course if she would have written "THIS IS ONLY FOR YOU GUYS, DON'T FORWARD IT!" at the top of her message, she probably wouldn't be having this problem. And if she did, she would have a lot more ground to stand on. Why would you assume that a 'mass' mail (which she called it) was not to be forwarded?
Maybe you just have low standards. The article didn't seem to be that polished. Just the raw output of someone who has a good natural writing ability.
Also, some of her spelling had been corrected along the way.
PGP actualy has a sort-of DRM option. You can set things up so that a message is only displayed graphicaly (or on the console screen) and can be saved or redirected.
You can't stop someone from taking a screen-grab or retyping the text. But there's a good chance this level of crypto would have prevented the sort of 'hey check this out' forwarding that got this letter posted all over the 'web.
She could have created a word doc with DRM, keeping her friends from forwarding it.
:P
Anyway, another interesting thing about this was how the lawmeme article is basically telling the story of the life of a metafilter thread. MeFi is a pretty cool website that I post on regularly (although, I missed this story). Slashdot gets mentioned in the press often, but slashdot blows. I'm not really proud to be associated with it
I almost wondered if it wasn't a hoax. A lot of people with various agendas from global-warming to christian fundementalism like to make up faked 'forward-this' emails.
:P
If it's not though. Wow. We're all fucked.
actually some of those who flipped out are neither psychotic nor nerds. in fact they're pretty nice people.
So, are you saying that it's impossible for nice people to be crazy?
I would think that one could be both insane and polite.
The reason people have this stereo-type of 'weird' kids is the same reason they have stereo-types for a lot of people (like blacks, Mexicans, etc)
.1', even if the actual number of black people who are criminals are way less.
When someone does something bad, and they belong do a group you don't have a lot of experience with, you'll remember it. And so it will represent a large portion of the data about that group. If you only hear about and remember well, say, 10 black people in your life and 1 of them was involved in a robbery, you think 'P(black==criminal) =
It's the same with 'nerds/weirdoes'. If you avoid nerds you wont think about them much unless something happens involving them that really sticks out to you.
An important mark of intelligence is the ability to weed out these extemporaneous associations and base your thoughts on the real data.
Yeah, I think your username is funny. That is all.
I think it would be a kick-ass job, and you get a ton of money in tips as well (from the non-assholes)
I would probably try it as a in-collage job if my driving record wasn't so terrible.
Your comment is especially ironic, given your username....