Other cities Taxi drivers may overcharge you but in Istanbul they will literally steal money out of your wallet. Its a common trick.
I'm going to Turkey later in the year and my Turkish colleague at work pretty much told me the same thing. Taxi drivers are thieves, so only use Uber.
I was planning on Ubering but now I might catch the bus or walk everywhere...
So yes, they act exactly as a cab company in most respects....
Except cleaner, safer, fairer, less smelly and more features. I agree Uber is a taxi service, but taxi monopolies are built on an outdated 20th century business model. Rather than force everyone back ott he 20th century, the better move would be to dismantle the taxi monopoly and allow real competition.
It's only going to get worse - what will happen once scammers can emulate other people's voices really well? What about fake photos too? Should old people no longer have a phone?
I work in this game and I think even I'm screwed. My plans when I'm old are to move to a third world village with a pre-internet ways of doing everything. The technology is just going to be too good that even I won't be able to tell what's real and what isn't. So what hope does everyone else have?
Yup, I've heard this before... essentially they bring up useless garbage that the victims have no idea what it means, and use that to support the "ah ha, I see the problem" bullshit.
You know what's easier, cheaper, more efficient, and doesn't require technology that won't exist until 2050? Monorails. Or basically anything on a rail. Japan has bullet trains and flawless public transportation of every kind.
I'm imagining the Robot car thing will just be for gimmick purposes. As you say Tokyo has a shit-ton of super efficient trains already that easily can move 10-20x more people than any road based solution.
I think they can do this, but I bet the self-driving cards will be strictly limited to pre-computed routes.
It's actually a really good use case since the Olympics will have a large number of people travelling only between fixed points, so you could effectively map out the top 10-20 locations with fixed routes and only allows robot cars on those roads. The Japanese are also already polite and robot friendly, so this could work out well.
Huh. I don't use Uber, but if I did, it would be nice knowing my driver has a CCW permit. This means that he/she has undergone a true background investigation, with finger prints run, etc. Did you know that here in the US CCW permit holders tend to be more law abiding than even police officers?
I'd believe it, mainly because American cops seem to be such cowboys. Don't read my post as anti-gun, if I lived there I get one too.
You typed a lot without saying much at anything. Again, my first comment: " could come down to personal choice and lifestyle. ".
An entire nation of 325million people making the same poor choices is a sign of larger problems.
We are talking a range of 4-5 years. Many choices in life can make that kind of impact regardless of the healthcare system you have in your country.
You seem stuck on the healthcare thing for some reason. It's not just healthcare, it overall quality of life, of which healthcare is a part. If 325 million people are all losing on average 5 years of life, doesn't that make you question why? Especially since other western nations which all have similar lifestyles are actually increasing their life expectancy despite having access to the same choices?
Your flippant comment about euthanasia seems like you want to focus
It wasn't flippant it was a direct response to your extremely specific case that only post cancer treatment longevity should be used to measure the overall standard of living for a country.
And you seem to keep bringing it up for some reason....
The fact you are happy that people can kill taxi drivers in your country does not really impress me.
That doesn't happen either.
but here in the U.S. we don't like to slaughter innocents for fun nor allow them to be slaughtered the way you do..
Haha...
Your murder rate is 6 times higher than ours you fucking crackpot loony. "we don't like to slaughter innocents for fun". Yes you do. You are the capital of shooting people for fun in the entire western world. How many days since the last school shooting? We've never had one ever. Not once. I can feel the cognitive dissonance burn from here.
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Let me guess, you also support taking guns away from women so they can be raped more frequently too.
We have much less guns and much less rapes and murders. Cognitive dissonance much?
What country was that you are from again? I live traveling but am pretty sure I want to avoid whatever shithole you live in.
Brains aren't your strong point are they champ? Pick any country, they all have less mass shootings than the US.
Also let's think for a minute outside the USA.
Here in my country taxi drivers are generally scum.
It's the same everywhere. I travel fair bit (Asia, America, Europe, Middle East). Everywhere I go it's the same story, Taxi monopolies have created a corrupt industry that is designed to rip off the customer. There's no security, auditing, customer service, or review process. Uber recognised those gaps and filled it.
it's all Slack, Teams, IM of one form or another, texting, etc. I actually find myself preferring this, even though I know it's not normal.
What is normal? Isn't normal just whatever you're used to?
I find verbal language conventions a bit stupid so don't like talking much (all the greetings, small talk, polite smiling and feigning interest, going through the motions, timing interactions etc). With written comms this all goes away and you can focus only on the important bits, and you get time to digest and offer thoughtful responses so each interaction carries more value. You also get to control the information as you can skim the uninteresting bits (unlike getting caught with a blabbermouth who monopolises your time with their self importance. I think this is the new normal
It'll be more costly than Uber or Lyft, but it'll avoid a lot of the problems they have.
You think? Because as much as the Taxi industry likes push the idea that they are a safer option, there's still plenty of crooks, thieves, rapists and murders driving taxis.
So it ill cost more but offer no real benefit. The actual solution is robot vehicles. Once this nut is cracked a *LOT* of problems go away.
You seem to want to say that a measure is bad because we don't have assisted suicide and doing what we can to keep people alive is torture. It doesn't make sense to me.
My point was that overall life expectancy is a good measure of success of a society in general. Your response is that the only one specific measure of life expectancy after cancer diagnosis is a better measure, which to me seems awfully specific (and even then I question it since a *lot* of Americans don't have access to the healthcare services that they need).
What is a good measure of success for any given state/territory/country? I still stick with life expectancy along with things like access to education, health services, social mobility/equality. All of these things the US is falling on.
A statistic that came out yesterday is relevant here. In 1980 The top 1% of Americans and Europeans both owned about 10% of the wealth, but today it is 20% in America and 12% in Europe. America is getting worse, and the life expectancy figures are reflecting that.
You say life expectancy is a good measure for healthcare.
No I say it's a good measure of success for the overall society. No-one likes dying before their time, so it is a good indicator of problems that exist in that society.
I disagree and gave an example that is better in my mind and you go off topic with euthanasia. You seem to disagree with the fundamental principle of healthcare which is to try and keep people alive and healthy.
The euthanasia comment was a direct response to keeping people alive when it's clear that a lot of terminally ill people don't want to be. So this cant be a good measure of society if you are keeping people alive and in pain against their wishes.
”This attack works in Chrome and Firefox, but has been fixed in recent versions.”
In other words, this is a clever exploit of a bug - not a fundamental issue with CSS. The rest is FUD.
'This attack works in Chrome and Firefox, but has been fixed in recent versions' really means 'this attack no longer works in Chrome or Firefox'. But to sell clicks you need to FUD it up as much as you can.
It's hard to think of any way in which Facebook being damaged would hurt the US economy...
Just the sheer size of it and it's market valuation. Any time a company of that size loses value it creates a ripple effect.
So we shouldn't prosecute drug dealers for the same reasons? I'm being deliberately obtuse here because one of my pet hates is how big business gets away with a lot because of fear of economic impact but the same rules don't apply to the narcotics trade. Consistency would be good.
I'm not across all details of the project (and I'm not a mobile dev) but I believe some part of it was either checking for supported devices and/or OS versions to ensure the app was secure (ie attacker not using customised devices or ROMs as an attack vector) I may have that wrong, but because the app stored license details it was a security measure to detect/prevent possible abuse.
the Device ID of my phone doesn't seem like the government's business.
The other point worth noting, the agency that owns the app is separate from the agency that owns each license or permit. And legally we aren't allowed to share anything with those agencies other than specific details for the service (eg driver license) via published APIs. So while we as app provider can get this info, it isn't shared nor is it allowed to be.
Also "The Government" isn't really a thing in a monolithic big brother type of way, it is a group of agencies all independent and if anything distrust each other more than you do. As a citizen I have more fear of big business than big government. At least where I live our government is relatively transparent and accountable.
I like a small plastic card that doesn't require charging.
I do too for some things. I don't like technology for technology sake, and one of my pet hates is the tech solves everything! mindset. I still prefer a plastic credit card despite having mobile pay apps on my phone, but prior to this app, dealing with various state agencies was a nightmare throwback from 1970's. The app is a major improvement.
You can have the same discussion of Euthanasia with a crappy healthcare system.
I was talking about measures of success as a whole, not just medicine. You could shout about who much longer you keep people alive while torturing them. Sure you might have better medical procedures, but the net result is worse.
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Other cities Taxi drivers may overcharge you but in Istanbul they will literally steal money out of your wallet. Its a common trick.
I'm going to Turkey later in the year and my Turkish colleague at work pretty much told me the same thing. Taxi drivers are thieves, so only use Uber.
I was planning on Ubering but now I might catch the bus or walk everywhere...
I gather it has to do with the size of the group.
Welcome to the Monkeysphere
Ever driven up to a busy 4 way stop and watch how it doesn't work? People need stop lights - they need to be told what to do.
This is why I ride a motorbike. Fucking useless people should not be allowed to drive
Bring on the robot cars!
So yes, they act exactly as a cab company in most respects....
Except cleaner, safer, fairer, less smelly and more features. I agree Uber is a taxi service, but taxi monopolies are built on an outdated 20th century business model. Rather than force everyone back ott he 20th century, the better move would be to dismantle the taxi monopoly and allow real competition.
It's only going to get worse - what will happen once scammers can emulate other people's voices really well? What about fake photos too? Should old people no longer have a phone?
I work in this game and I think even I'm screwed. My plans when I'm old are to move to a third world village with a pre-internet ways of doing everything. The technology is just going to be too good that even I won't be able to tell what's real and what isn't. So what hope does everyone else have?
Yup, I've heard this before ... essentially they bring up useless garbage that the victims have no idea what it means, and use that to support the "ah ha, I see the problem" bullshit.
Sounds like a few doctors I've been to...
Is it really a crime to take money from someone this gullible?
It's actually a crime not to take it.
You know what's easier, cheaper, more efficient, and doesn't require technology that won't exist until 2050? Monorails. Or basically anything on a rail. Japan has bullet trains and flawless public transportation of every kind.
I'm imagining the Robot car thing will just be for gimmick purposes. As you say Tokyo has a shit-ton of super efficient trains already that easily can move 10-20x more people than any road based solution.
I think they can do this, but I bet the self-driving cards will be strictly limited to pre-computed routes.
It's actually a really good use case since the Olympics will have a large number of people travelling only between fixed points, so you could effectively map out the top 10-20 locations with fixed routes and only allows robot cars on those roads. The Japanese are also already polite and robot friendly, so this could work out well.
Did your wife leave you because of your philanding?
Is that English?
Huh. I don't use Uber, but if I did, it would be nice knowing my driver has a CCW permit. This means that he/she has undergone a true background investigation, with finger prints run, etc. Did you know that here in the US CCW permit holders tend to be more law abiding than even police officers?
I'd believe it, mainly because American cops seem to be such cowboys. Don't read my post as anti-gun, if I lived there I get one too.
You typed a lot without saying much at anything. Again, my first comment: " could come down to personal choice and lifestyle. ".
An entire nation of 325million people making the same poor choices is a sign of larger problems.
We are talking a range of 4-5 years. Many choices in life can make that kind of impact regardless of the healthcare system you have in your country.
You seem stuck on the healthcare thing for some reason. It's not just healthcare, it overall quality of life, of which healthcare is a part. If 325 million people are all losing on average 5 years of life, doesn't that make you question why? Especially since other western nations which all have similar lifestyles are actually increasing their life expectancy despite having access to the same choices?
Your flippant comment about euthanasia seems like you want to focus
It wasn't flippant it was a direct response to your extremely specific case that only post cancer treatment longevity should be used to measure the overall standard of living for a country.
And you seem to keep bringing it up for some reason....
Bullshit. I've never heard of a taxi driver murding anyone.
Ok so because you've never heard of it never happened?
The fact you are happy that people can kill taxi drivers in your country does not really impress me.
That doesn't happen either.
but here in the U.S. we don't like to slaughter innocents for fun nor allow them to be slaughtered the way you do..
Haha...
Your murder rate is 6 times higher than ours you fucking crackpot loony. "we don't like to slaughter innocents for fun". Yes you do. You are the capital of shooting people for fun in the entire western world. How many days since the last school shooting? We've never had one ever. Not once. I can feel the cognitive dissonance burn from here.
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Let me guess, you also support taking guns away from women so they can be raped more frequently too.
We have much less guns and much less rapes and murders. Cognitive dissonance much?
What country was that you are from again? I live traveling but am pretty sure I want to avoid whatever shithole you live in.
Brains aren't your strong point are they champ? Pick any country, they all have less mass shootings than the US.
Also let's think for a minute outside the USA. Here in my country taxi drivers are generally scum.
It's the same everywhere. I travel fair bit (Asia, America, Europe, Middle East). Everywhere I go it's the same story, Taxi monopolies have created a corrupt industry that is designed to rip off the customer. There's no security, auditing, customer service, or review process. Uber recognised those gaps and filled it.
So you think everyone is always running the latest versions of all software? Are you naive or just intentionally dense?
Cool story...
it's all Slack, Teams, IM of one form or another, texting, etc. I actually find myself preferring this, even though I know it's not normal.
What is normal? Isn't normal just whatever you're used to?
I find verbal language conventions a bit stupid so don't like talking much (all the greetings, small talk, polite smiling and feigning interest, going through the motions, timing interactions etc). With written comms this all goes away and you can focus only on the important bits, and you get time to digest and offer thoughtful responses so each interaction carries more value. You also get to control the information as you can skim the uninteresting bits (unlike getting caught with a blabbermouth who monopolises your time with their self importance. I think this is the new normal
+1
No Uber or Taxi driver has ever shot anyone in my country. Maybe it's the guns...
It'll be more costly than Uber or Lyft, but it'll avoid a lot of the problems they have.
You think? Because as much as the Taxi industry likes push the idea that they are a safer option, there's still plenty of crooks, thieves, rapists and murders driving taxis.
So it ill cost more but offer no real benefit. The actual solution is robot vehicles. Once this nut is cracked a *LOT* of problems go away.
You seem to want to say that a measure is bad because we don't have assisted suicide and doing what we can to keep people alive is torture. It doesn't make sense to me.
My point was that overall life expectancy is a good measure of success of a society in general. Your response is that the only one specific measure of life expectancy after cancer diagnosis is a better measure, which to me seems awfully specific (and even then I question it since a *lot* of Americans don't have access to the healthcare services that they need).
What is a good measure of success for any given state/territory/country? I still stick with life expectancy along with things like access to education, health services, social mobility/equality. All of these things the US is falling on.
A statistic that came out yesterday is relevant here. In 1980 The top 1% of Americans and Europeans both owned about 10% of the wealth, but today it is 20% in America and 12% in Europe. America is getting worse, and the life expectancy figures are reflecting that.
You say life expectancy is a good measure for healthcare.
No I say it's a good measure of success for the overall society. No-one likes dying before their time, so it is a good indicator of problems that exist in that society.
I disagree and gave an example that is better in my mind and you go off topic with euthanasia. You seem to disagree with the fundamental principle of healthcare which is to try and keep people alive and healthy.
The euthanasia comment was a direct response to keeping people alive when it's clear that a lot of terminally ill people don't want to be. So this cant be a good measure of society if you are keeping people alive and in pain against their wishes.
”This attack works in Chrome and Firefox, but has been fixed in recent versions.”
In other words, this is a clever exploit of a bug - not a fundamental issue with CSS. The rest is FUD.
'This attack works in Chrome and Firefox, but has been fixed in recent versions' really means 'this attack no longer works in Chrome or Firefox'. But to sell clicks you need to FUD it up as much as you can.
It's hard to think of any way in which Facebook being damaged would hurt the US economy...
Just the sheer size of it and it's market valuation. Any time a company of that size loses value it creates a ripple effect.
So we shouldn't prosecute drug dealers for the same reasons? I'm being deliberately obtuse here because one of my pet hates is how big business gets away with a lot because of fear of economic impact but the same rules don't apply to the narcotics trade. Consistency would be good.
Why on earth should it need the Device ID?
I'm not across all details of the project (and I'm not a mobile dev) but I believe some part of it was either checking for supported devices and/or OS versions to ensure the app was secure (ie attacker not using customised devices or ROMs as an attack vector) I may have that wrong, but because the app stored license details it was a security measure to detect/prevent possible abuse.
the Device ID of my phone doesn't seem like the government's business.
The other point worth noting, the agency that owns the app is separate from the agency that owns each license or permit. And legally we aren't allowed to share anything with those agencies other than specific details for the service (eg driver license) via published APIs. So while we as app provider can get this info, it isn't shared nor is it allowed to be.
Also "The Government" isn't really a thing in a monolithic big brother type of way, it is a group of agencies all independent and if anything distrust each other more than you do. As a citizen I have more fear of big business than big government. At least where I live our government is relatively transparent and accountable.
I like a small plastic card that doesn't require charging.
I do too for some things. I don't like technology for technology sake, and one of my pet hates is the tech solves everything! mindset. I still prefer a plastic credit card despite having mobile pay apps on my phone, but prior to this app, dealing with various state agencies was a nightmare throwback from 1970's. The app is a major improvement.
You can have the same discussion of Euthanasia with a crappy healthcare system.
I was talking about measures of success as a whole, not just medicine. You could shout about who much longer you keep people alive while torturing them. Sure you might have better medical procedures, but the net result is worse.