This is probably less complex (and hence safer from tampering) than citizen electronic vote, as parliament member vote is public.
Hence it is extremely simple for someone to check its own vote, and to make sure no fake voter has been added. The only risk I see is casting a fake vote for an absent parliament member: presence log has to be kept by a different system to spot that.
The proposal includes a live scoreboard inside the House, and voting is via the MP's personal swipe card, so any improper votes would be immediately visible.
Not much. Because the Lower House consists of only 150 MPs, and each vote is on the public record in real time. Unlike a private ballot , any tampering would be evident immediately.
If the entire system stopped working they can immediately go back to the old way of manually voting by walking across the room.
They don't border Mexico, where beheading for fun and profit is a mainstay.
The problems in Mexico are mostly a result of US policy on drugs from the last 40 years coming back to bite.
Western societies with few problems are typically islands
Canada has a higher immigration rate than the US, is neither an Island, nor does it have more 'problems'.
I can speak from experience -- I considered myself mildly addicted and deactivated my account for two weeks as I was on a break before a new job, during which I just walked and read and slept. I discovered that after two weeks I was very reluctant to go back to FB as it felt like a pit that would drain my energy so I stayed deactivated.
I call it a time sink. You go there, time drains away and you're left wondering where your life went. That's no way to live
I do the same thing most of my activities I spend a lot of time on. Take a voluntary break, look back and check whether I actually got value from them or I was caught up in some sort of addictive behaviour where it is controlling me. This is why I think it would be good to have a national day/week/month of social media free time. It is poison and until you actually have an enforced break you won't see the damage it is doing.
Just because you don't use FB, it does not mean that no one has legitimated uses.
Here we go...
Most asians
That doesn't sound racist at all. Did you do a survey of most Asians? I'm interested in how you come to such conclusions?
e.g. use it as ersatz email and as messenger. It does not make sense to take that away for a month.
Couple of points:
Messenger is a separate product from FB
Most Asians I know (and I used to live there) use Wechat for messaging
Email is still quite popular in Asia, if your statement is true, who is using it?
That whole point is of going without is as a test to see how much value you give something. You can't get that from guessing.
Most people don't know they have an addiction until you take it away. I'd support an annual social media free month just so we can all some perspective back in our lives.
Plenty of Americans today have their penises circumcised for no real reason, not to speak about Jews and Muslims who do it for religious reasons. Should we take you all away from your families?
Depends if you think modern circumcision and primitive sub-incision are the same thing?
I also note you didn't talk about the routine rape and incest, I'm pretty sure you get jail time for that in the US sometimes?
America stopped decades ago, so instead, we have had it going to China and other nations. That also needs to stop. ALL OF IT. Far better for America to recycle, bury, or burn it.
I recall a Penn & Teller episode where they calculated they could fit 1000 years of all rubbish into a landfill 50kmx50km. That's a big landfill, but it seems like an easy solution to make this problem go away forever.
Utilities have gotten more reliable? That sure has not happened anywhere I have lived over the past decades. That is why I had to get the backup generator mentioned above.
Not sure how old you are or maybe it's where you live, but my parents both didn't have toilets in their houses when they were kids, and their grandparents didn't have electricity. So yeah, utilities are much better than they used to be.
The graph of progress is not a straight line. Don't confuse the dips with a change of direction.
I have a water heater and stored bottled water. I have fuel and emergency generator. If the systems my cashless society relies on fail, then I have a couple weeks worth of cash on hand
Right so you have a primary solution and a backup for emergencies, which is much better than just one system. I don't think that 'the cashless society' means 100% cash-free, like the paperless office, it means mostly electronic, with paper still usable as a backup.
I'll stay on the side of freedom, so long as the US has cop trash and lawmaker trash seeking to put people in a cage for victimless crimes.
It never occurred to you that those cops and lawmakers are just exercising their own freedom? Or do you think they shouldn't be free to continue and be held accountable for their actions?
If you peel away the propaganda he is just another Mad Man (with their same lack of humility).
Mad Men (whatever that is supposed to mean?) I take it are the charismatic types who used charm and persuasion to be successful in advertising back in the day. MZ is none of that.
So is that more or less than other candidates? Is it more or less than other agencies? Was this a one off case or is it a regular pattern?
but acknowledging that there are significant biases inherent in their incentive structure, as well as the worldview of their reporters. Those biases undermine the ability for them to perform their most important role as the press, which is speaking truth to power.
All media is biased because all humans are biased. The point is how much bias. I'm not American so don't directly read it, but I do see some content via syndicates and that particular content seems well researched and objective. I'm happy to read a higher quality source if you can recommend one. But this is usually where these discussions come unstuck...
In America that is a waste of a trip to a polling booth.
Only if you think like that. Voting only works because you assume other people will act in a similar manner to yourself. Change doesn't happen by throwing your hands up in the air and giving up.
While the bank can take the lion's share of blame for having flaky systems, the retailers and customers have to take some responsibility for not being prepared for such events.
And how often does it happen?
What backup systems would there be, other than cash?
Cash was the backup system I was referring to. The people complaining didn't have any, and they're putting all the blame on other people.
Accountability is not a positive -- it's a negative. Why should we have to account for everything we buy and sell to a corporation or government? Anonymity and privacy == freedom.
Total Freedom = Jungle. And most of us don't want that. The difference between jungle and non-jungle is accountability.
Democracy is a participation sport, and our culture is shifting from participants to spectators. This probably has more to do with the quality of life we now enjoy and not wanting to get your hands dirty when it's so much easier to lie on the couch. I think this is less a generation blame game, and more a natural human condition from the products of easy living.
It happened to the Romans, now it is happening to us.
If ordinary Americans want better lives for themselves then they need to take a hard look in the mirror and resolve to be better people: more honest, more generous, and with much more integrity.
It's easier than that. Stop voting for only Democrat or Republican.
Get a third party in the mix with some double digit voter turnout then watch the how the game changes.
The only thing wrong with people is their internal attitude and their sponge like ability to soak up bad news, and as much as people make up the country that is what is wrong with the country.
There's a simple fix for the current political situation:
1. Ignore all news/media/talking heads/fear mongers
2. Vote for a third party
Only when you have a third party (even a crazy one) that can alter the balance of power, will those in power start listening to the voters.
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This is probably less complex (and hence safer from tampering) than citizen electronic vote, as parliament member vote is public.
Hence it is extremely simple for someone to check its own vote, and to make sure no fake voter has been added. The only risk I see is casting a fake vote for an absent parliament member: presence log has to be kept by a different system to spot that.
The proposal includes a live scoreboard inside the House, and voting is via the MP's personal swipe card, so any improper votes would be immediately visible.
What could possibly go wrong?
Not much. Because the Lower House consists of only 150 MPs, and each vote is on the public record in real time. Unlike a private ballot , any tampering would be evident immediately.
If the entire system stopped working they can immediately go back to the old way of manually voting by walking across the room.
I had never heard of this app and can think of few things more ridiculous!
Same here. Is this a paid ad? The concept sounds ridiculous, I'm not sure why anyone would bother...
They don't border Mexico, where beheading for fun and profit is a mainstay.
The problems in Mexico are mostly a result of US policy on drugs from the last 40 years coming back to bite. Western societies with few problems are typically islands
Canada has a higher immigration rate than the US, is neither an Island, nor does it have more 'problems'.
Transplant our high numbers of nigs and Mexicans and watch what happens to your country.
My country has higher levels of immigration than the US and we have higher quality of life and lower crime.
I can speak from experience -- I considered myself mildly addicted and deactivated my account for two weeks as I was on a break before a new job, during which I just walked and read and slept. I discovered that after two weeks I was very reluctant to go back to FB as it felt like a pit that would drain my energy so I stayed deactivated.
I call it a time sink. You go there, time drains away and you're left wondering where your life went. That's no way to live
I do the same thing most of my activities I spend a lot of time on. Take a voluntary break, look back and check whether I actually got value from them or I was caught up in some sort of addictive behaviour where it is controlling me. This is why I think it would be good to have a national day/week/month of social media free time. It is poison and until you actually have an enforced break you won't see the damage it is doing.
Just because you don't use FB, it does not mean that no one has legitimated uses.
Here we go...
Most asians
That doesn't sound racist at all. Did you do a survey of most Asians? I'm interested in how you come to such conclusions?
e.g. use it as ersatz email and as messenger. It does not make sense to take that away for a month.
Couple of points:
Messenger is a separate product from FB
Most Asians I know (and I used to live there) use Wechat for messaging
Email is still quite popular in Asia, if your statement is true, who is using it?
That whole point is of going without is as a test to see how much value you give something. You can't get that from guessing.
Most people don't know they have an addiction until you take it away. I'd support an annual social media free month just so we can all some perspective back in our lives.
Plenty of Americans today have their penises circumcised for no real reason, not to speak about Jews and Muslims who do it for religious reasons. Should we take you all away from your families?
Depends if you think modern circumcision and primitive sub-incision are the same thing?
I also note you didn't talk about the routine rape and incest, I'm pretty sure you get jail time for that in the US sometimes?
America stopped decades ago, so instead, we have had it going to China and other nations. That also needs to stop. ALL OF IT. Far better for America to recycle, bury, or burn it.
I recall a Penn & Teller episode where they calculated they could fit 1000 years of all rubbish into a landfill 50kmx50km. That's a big landfill, but it seems like an easy solution to make this problem go away forever.
Will this apply to flights as well? I thought that plastic utensils there were generally regarded as a safety feature, not just a cheap convenience.
Only economy gets plastic, those at the front get real cutlery, so it can't be a safety issue.
Utilities have gotten more reliable? That sure has not happened anywhere I have lived over the past decades. That is why I had to get the backup generator mentioned above.
Not sure how old you are or maybe it's where you live, but my parents both didn't have toilets in their houses when they were kids, and their grandparents didn't have electricity. So yeah, utilities are much better than they used to be.
The graph of progress is not a straight line. Don't confuse the dips with a change of direction.
I have a water heater and stored bottled water. I have fuel and emergency generator. If the systems my cashless society relies on fail, then I have a couple weeks worth of cash on hand
Right so you have a primary solution and a backup for emergencies, which is much better than just one system. I don't think that 'the cashless society' means 100% cash-free, like the paperless office, it means mostly electronic, with paper still usable as a backup.
I'll stay on the side of freedom, so long as the US has cop trash and lawmaker trash seeking to put people in a cage for victimless crimes.
It never occurred to you that those cops and lawmakers are just exercising their own freedom? Or do you think they shouldn't be free to continue and be held accountable for their actions?
If you peel away the propaganda he is just another Mad Man (with their same lack of humility).
Mad Men (whatever that is supposed to mean?) I take it are the charismatic types who used charm and persuasion to be successful in advertising back in the day. MZ is none of that.
I'd take a jungle over a prison any day of the week. You seem to want a prison, because you're too cowardly to appreciate freedom.
Of course, because there's only two possible options...
For example, they ran 16 negative Bernie stories in 24 hours during the election because they were very much in the tank for Clinton.
So is that more or less than other candidates? Is it more or less than other agencies? Was this a one off case or is it a regular pattern?
but acknowledging that there are significant biases inherent in their incentive structure, as well as the worldview of their reporters. Those biases undermine the ability for them to perform their most important role as the press, which is speaking truth to power.
All media is biased because all humans are biased. The point is how much bias. I'm not American so don't directly read it, but I do see some content via syndicates and that particular content seems well researched and objective. I'm happy to read a higher quality source if you can recommend one. But this is usually where these discussions come unstuck...
People did try that a bit this time and guess what: the wrong lizard did indeed get in.
Because they keep playing the two lizard game. You need a third lizard if you want the other two to change their behaviour.
Your "easy" oslution only works if enough people do it..
Yeah, that's kind of the point of a democracy.
2. Vote for a third party
In America that is a waste of a trip to a polling booth.
Only if you think like that. Voting only works because you assume other people will act in a similar manner to yourself. Change doesn't happen by throwing your hands up in the air and giving up.
And how often does it happen?
What backup systems would there be, other than cash?
Cash was the backup system I was referring to. The people complaining didn't have any, and they're putting all the blame on other people.
Accountability is not a positive -- it's a negative. Why should we have to account for everything we buy and sell to a corporation or government? Anonymity and privacy == freedom.
Total Freedom = Jungle. And most of us don't want that. The difference between jungle and non-jungle is accountability.
Ya, the inner city gangs and MS-13 will then have respect for law enforcement.
Why don't other Western Democracies have these same level of problems?
You can improve things by cutting government. If the corrupt divide up 30% of GDP it's s lot worse than letting them divide up 10% of GDP.
Right so if we remove the police and schools we'll all be better off? Seems well thought out...
Vigilance is the price of democracy.
Democracy is a participation sport, and our culture is shifting from participants to spectators. This probably has more to do with the quality of life we now enjoy and not wanting to get your hands dirty when it's so much easier to lie on the couch. I think this is less a generation blame game, and more a natural human condition from the products of easy living.
It happened to the Romans, now it is happening to us.
If ordinary Americans want better lives for themselves then they need to take a hard look in the mirror and resolve to be better people: more honest, more generous, and with much more integrity.
It's easier than that. Stop voting for only Democrat or Republican.
Get a third party in the mix with some double digit voter turnout then watch the how the game changes.
The only thing wrong with people is their internal attitude and their sponge like ability to soak up bad news, and as much as people make up the country that is what is wrong with the country.
There's a simple fix for the current political situation:
1. Ignore all news/media/talking heads/fear mongers
2. Vote for a third party
Only when you have a third party (even a crazy one) that can alter the balance of power, will those in power start listening to the voters.