It's not an operating system. Think about what you're saying.
If you have a hard disk, format it to ext3 and then put a kernel onto it, what can you do?
You can't boot, there's no shell, you have no libraries, no software, no commands.
Now if you had all those - a GNU shell, GNU libraries, GNU chess, GNU coreutils and the GNU kernel - what would you have? You'd have GNU. You'd be able to login, and play GNU chess.
Now say I replace one part of the GNU system, with something written by a third party. Say, the kernel... What do I have now?
GNU shell, GNU libraries, GNU chess, GNU coreutils and a third-party kernel, Linux. It wouldn't be fair to refer to this new system as GNU, so by referring to it as GNU/Linux, we do several things.
* Give credit to the Linux team for producing a working kernel much faster than GNU.
* State that the system is a mixture of GNU and Linux, which leaves the door open for alternative versions, including GNU/OpenSolaris, GNU/kFreeBSD and GNU/NetBSD as well as GNU itself.
* Make users of the system aware of the goals of the GNU project, which are to create an operating system that is completely free software and includes tools to do every job that somebody might want, in free software. As opposed to the goal of Linux, which is to create a portable kernel.
* As a by product of the GNU Project - more people will learn about, and write free software.
In terms of a typical Unix, you have a kernel, a shell, libraries and tools. GNU has all those, and some people choose to replace one of them with Linux.
Interesting the way you attempt to dismiss people who value software freedom, there. Has it occured to you that those that do, aren't doing it because of the 'heebie-jeebies', but of a greater sense of community, liberty and rights?
You might be fine with proprietary software, but please don't dismiss people who aren't.
I believe that when the GNU toolchain was being written one of the authors was worried that his current employer would claim it was derived from what they had been paying him to write so would claim it was their IP. As a result of these fears he quit his job and completed the project while not working. I have just looked and cannot find a link to back this up, so if anyone knows where I might have read this, please post a link here as I would love to read it again in case it inspires me to do the same thing.
Are you referring to Richard Stallman?
In January 1984 I quit my job at MIT and began writing GNU software. Leaving MIT was necessary so that MIT would not be able to interfere with distributing GNU as free software. If I had remained on the staff, MIT could have claimed to own the work, and could have imposed their own distribution terms, or even turned the work into a proprietary software package. I had no intention of doing a large amount of work only to see it become useless for its intended purpose: creating a new software-sharing community.
However, Professor Winston, then the head of the MIT AI Lab, kindly invited me to keep using the lab's facilities.
FYI, GNU is an operating system, just like Solaris and BSD. The fact that one piece of it can be replaced with Linux to make it far more useful doesn't make it any less of an operating system:)
sourceforge.net isn't actually free software, so i wouldn't be surprised there.
ubuntu are working on Gobuntu, which actually includes all the sources for all the videos, sounds, documents, etc included with it, but yeah, it's a point well made.
I believe the parent was talking more about the fact that Gnash (alpha quality) aside, there's no way for the people they're trying to reach to view a Flash movie whilst maintaining the consistent ethical view of the free software community.
It's pretty HUGE, but almost our entire website is static HTML served from disk, so we get good performance. I don't perform much analysis on it yet, as it's simply too much data to grep.
Linux kernel really isn't it all, but sadly, certainly individuals in the local 'LUG', are unwilling to discuss issues of software freedom, so a new group seemed useful.
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It's not an operating system. Think about what you're saying.
If you have a hard disk, format it to ext3 and then put a kernel onto it, what can you do?
You can't boot, there's no shell, you have no libraries, no software, no commands.
Now if you had all those - a GNU shell, GNU libraries, GNU chess, GNU coreutils and the GNU kernel - what would you have? You'd have GNU. You'd be able to login, and play GNU chess.
Now say I replace one part of the GNU system, with something written by a third party. Say, the kernel... What do I have now?
GNU shell, GNU libraries, GNU chess, GNU coreutils and a third-party kernel, Linux. It wouldn't be fair to refer to this new system as GNU, so by referring to it as GNU/Linux, we do several things.
* Give credit to the Linux team for producing a working kernel much faster than GNU.
* State that the system is a mixture of GNU and Linux, which leaves the door open for alternative versions, including GNU/OpenSolaris, GNU/kFreeBSD and GNU/NetBSD as well as GNU itself.
* Make users of the system aware of the goals of the GNU project, which are to create an operating system that is completely free software and includes tools to do every job that somebody might want, in free software. As opposed to the goal of Linux, which is to create a portable kernel.
* As a by product of the GNU Project - more people will learn about, and write free software.
Operating System Kernel is part of an Operating System :)
Like a Car Engine is part of a car.
GNU/Linux is an important name as it draws attention to the goal of creating an operating system where users can do every job in free software.
In terms of a typical Unix, you have a kernel, a shell, libraries and tools. GNU has all those, and some people choose to replace one of them with Linux.
* Shell - bash
* Libraries - glibc
* Tools - GNU coreutils
* Kernel - Hurd
Bash, isn't productive? Install GNOME - it's part of GNU.
http://www.gnome.org/about/
"GNOME is Free Software and part of the GNU project."
I thought XNU was the kernel (aka Linux) and Darwin was the OS (aka GNU)
It works. You can run X on it, the problem right now is a lack of drivers.
But if you have qemu, you can certainly get it up and running from the K14 CD ISOs from Debian very quickly.
No, GNU. Like I said.
GNU/Linux being GNU with a different kernel. GNU is GNU with the GNU kernel, Hurd.
It runs X. I was using GNU yesterday, browsing the web, wrote some email, sent some email, IRC, SSH...
What more do you need?
I don't believe it does have a TPM chip, actually.
I think initial developer machines that were loaned from Apple and basically Pentium 4s, did, but not the consumer machines.
Also, Apple machines have nice form factor, and the Mac Mini is quite a small, neat box. And it has Intel video.
All reasons to run a free operating system on them.
Interesting the way you attempt to dismiss people who value software freedom, there. Has it occured to you that those that do, aren't doing it because of the 'heebie-jeebies', but of a greater sense of community, liberty and rights?
You might be fine with proprietary software, but please don't dismiss people who aren't.
Where I work, we let you see all our code.
;)
Download it too, if you like
http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/
Hurd works. It's worked for a long time.
It might be a hard to install, and still be fairly unstable, but you can run X and people are using it.
So, GNU is an operating system.
Are you referring to Richard Stallman?
FYI, GNU is an operating system, just like Solaris and BSD. The fact that one piece of it can be replaced with Linux to make it far more useful doesn't make it any less of an operating system
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_C5
sourceforge.net isn't actually free software, so i wouldn't be surprised there.
ubuntu are working on Gobuntu, which actually includes all the sources for all the videos, sounds, documents, etc included with it, but yeah, it's a point well made.
happy hacking.
Of course, that assumes such files exist.
For example, I run http://www.gnu.org/ - a lot of our graphics were created in the days before people did drawing on computers.
But yeah, all our modern stuff should be up there.
http://www.gnu.org/graphics/ - go nuts.
I believe the parent was talking more about the fact that Gnash (alpha quality) aside, there's no way for the people they're trying to reach to view a Flash movie whilst maintaining the consistent ethical view of the free software community.
I tried it, but you refused to give me source code, thereby breaking the GNU GPL.
;)
IANAL, but I think you're a very bad man
We log all our web traffic for http://www.gnu.org/
It's pretty HUGE, but almost our entire website is static HTML served from disk, so we get good performance. I don't perform much analysis on it yet, as it's simply too much data to grep.
Quite.
Just yesterday I formed Manchester Free Software for the people of Manchester, UK.
Linux kernel really isn't it all, but sadly, certainly individuals in the local 'LUG', are unwilling to discuss issues of software freedom, so a new group seemed useful.
WarioWare pretty much has its own universe. Aside from Mario Kart, Wario was only really in one or two games with Mario anyway.
If anything, Wario is the anti-Mario.
What you wrote is a blog entry. An article would be published by someone else, of course you could republish on your website.
Of course, article sounds more impressive than blog entry, which is why you wrote it.
By article, you mean 'blog entry', right?
Do you accept PayPal?
Sure.
And now the FSF is revising it. We need your help!