yes its fixed in FC3, don't know about ubunto since I have not installed it yet. Maybe after it gets a reputation. Right now its just a baby who hasn't developed an identity yet just a bunch of ppl saying awww how cute. See what happens when it gets teeth.
Are there any honest-to-goodness technical reasons why yum is the better choice?
Because apt for RPM was a hack. Was not built from the ground up to work for RPM where as YUM was. Yum was nowhere near apt in functionality but it is getting there. Maybe Fedora is stubborn in using apt for the same reason Debian was stubborn in using anaconda. It was written by "them".
Don't use Ford as an analogy. People weren't downloading mustangs for free. People were PAYING for ford's cars. Not enough ppl were buying RHEL, as soon as RHL stopped you saw their revenue go through the roof, why? Cause so many people were only not paying cause they didn't have to, the free product was just as good for their needs.
Read some of the other posts, other search engines carry it such as yahoo which is based in the Bay Area in California. Google ITSELF has the images just not in the images area which is updated every 6 months apparently. type 'abu ghraib photos' into google and look at the first link if you want images, google isn't censoring the content. Thats the same way you find it on yahoo or anywhere else. this is basically a non story. Just another story trying to troll and make a bush bashing thread talking about how horrible america and its president is. I'm sick of it to be honest. How come we don't talk about the soldiers who were hung upside down on the bridge with their throats slit just weeks before this abu ghraib stuff? How come slashdot didn't do a story this week on that school classroom that was booby trapped with a ton of explosives to the light switch? apparently killing a classroom full of children isn't nearly as bad as making people stand naked.
Only killing the desktop? Wouldn't the equivalent be Ford deciding to quit selling passenger cars and only continue selling diesel trucks?
No because redhat didn't kill anything, It's just what people say who don't understand what actually happened, or do understand but choose to use FUD as leverage to gain support for their favorite distro. You'll notice everytime someone bashes a distro, they will plug their favorite in the next sentence. It's much like politics. Slashdot readers have no excuse they're tech savy and should know that Red Hat didn't abandon the broke users, they gave us Fedora. If you need a stable product for a "server" chances are that you use that server to make money (if it's to learn student prices are dirt cheap). You should be paying red hat. To those people who cry that Red Hat will not Give away all their work plus support it for 10 years free of charge need to wake the hell up and stop being so ideological, even RMS understands this. They have top coders working there who don't get paid with peanuts. I understood this right away and switched to Fedora.
Didn't red hat win an account out there earlier this year for the second largest IP carrier in Germany? Also Red Hat's European Headquarters is in Munich, and the CEO was saying this week they plan to make an even bigger push in Europe because the market in the US isn't making a large shift yet.
I hear over and over RedHat rules the US but its not big in Europe. Is there any facts out there supporting this claim, or do we just assume SuSE was born in germany therefore everyone uses it throughout europe.
I'm not sure I understand.
RedHat has done quite a bit of good over a decade. I'll go out on a limb and say they've done more than any single distributer. And you want to leave them not for technical merrit, but because another company GPL'd ximain connecter and yast? How about the companies Red Hat has recently bought. Netscape Directory, Sistina's GFS or 'stateless linux' on the horizon. I could put together a huge list of software RedHat GPL'd why is SuSE more deserving of "political capitol" than the guys who've been doing this for 10 years?
I was just going to bring this up. I follow the boards on stock forums, and investers seem nervous. This is the guy who was brought in pushing for Linux a couple years ago, now he just up and leaves one day? This is apparently what happened at Tilion it seemed fine then he left and shocked everyone. Also people on the board say many exec's at Novell have been leaving, is this also true? All the news seems bad things like they sold 20,000 subscriptions, but 10,000 of that was to one company. RedHat is well embedded in the "sure I'll pay for linux" market. Its a tough nut to crack for anyone. I just can't see Novell taking over RH on Linux, RH just plays the game so well in a decade of working with a spazz community the only two real screw up's ppl have flailed their arms at them for are "killing the desktop" and "a bad GCC". One hell of a track record for a company who is surrounded by an emotional community.
I didn't say a thing about alcohol, but since you want to use the argument alcohol is worse than Cocaine to justify legalization; lets see. A man comes home from work and beats his kids/wife because of that, he gets into a car and kills someone because of it. So because of this we should make MORE drugs legal? I don't follow your logic.. since we have shotguns why not give everyone bazooka's and AK-47's? This is silly.
Actually, if we just smoked the plant there would be little problem.
I was referring to weed which everyone else wants legal. I was trying to say legalizing cocaine is not as harmless as someone who wants to smoke a joint before bed.
No, it is the fruitless attempts at interdiction that ruin whole countries. Colombia used to be one of the prime tourist spots of the world, and they've been 'doing coke' for millenia
You mean before one of their main sources of income was kidnapping tourists and threating to shop their heads off if we don't pay them? Yes sounds like Colombia is a great vacation spot.
Colombia they always mispell it, and it is the kind of pure American ignorance that makes the rest of the world anti-American.
Anyone who thinks a mis spelling is a reason to hate a whole country shows astounding ignorance. Anyone who thinks like that hated way before they heard us say 'columbia'. But thats fine, keep telling us Americans why everyone in the world hates us. I know I really care, no really... no really.
congratulations america! you've completely alienated yourselves from all of your former allies and friends and earned the distrust and emnity of the rest of the planet.
Yes our long time allies like France, Russia, China and Germany. With Allies like that who needs friends?
I got news for you, we know much of the world dislikes the US but news flash, many of us don't give a crap about you anymore either. 100's of thousands of Americans spilled blood on Europe's shores and you cry babies whine about the 10-15 that died in Iraq? well boo hoo. Here is the thing. If your countrys weren't dirty and doing business with saddam they'd be right there next to us, and saying how good of a thing it is we're doing. We were blocked by the few nations going against sanctions, and doing business with the only maniac in history to attack "_ALL_" his border nations. Remember that. Nobody else really had a problem with it.
The House of Representatives voted on bill to reinstate the draft by Democrat Charles Rangel (NY), and defeated it soundly, 402-2. The bill, which languished in Congress with no real support since its introduction in January 2003, has often been used as evidence the Republicans favor a draft, despite the fact that a Democrat sponsored it, 14 other Democrats cosponsored it, and no Republicans supported it.
you should have been modded up, you were robbed.I mean it wasn't a great "America sucks" post but good enough IMO.
Guess you posted too late, try and post on the thread earlier next time.
Bin Laden says everyone should pray, does it mean that suddenly American people should stop praying?
No. But we're not talking about praying, we're talking about him wanting to destroy a whole race of people then build shari'a law spreading it throughout the world by terror. A simple case of "the ends justifies the means" in his eyes.
Yes I think that is enough to discredit anything and everything he has to say when it comes to "what he thinks"
I know I'll be taunted and modded down by the bible bashing extreme right wingers (and supporters) for saying this, but to quote Michael Moore, spreading democracy through the barrel of a gun rarely works.
This is slashdot, the more you bash america the higher up you go, the more you defend it the lower you drop. (see my post as an example)
Yes, cause Bin Laden really cares about our well being right? He's trying to act like Mr. Nice guy to divide us even more. oh we only set thousands of you on fire cause we want to kill isreal and have shari'a law. He's gone on record (in 1998 interview) That he thinks the american people to be weak and can easily be divided in long wars. Thats exactly what he (and many others) are someone what successfully doing.
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yes its fixed in FC3, don't know about ubunto since I have not installed it yet. Maybe after it gets a reputation. Right now its just a baby who hasn't developed an identity yet just a bunch of ppl saying awww how cute. See what happens when it gets teeth.
Nice plug for ubuntu on a fedora thread. If you're not 'trying' to troll a flamewar you sure don't think much.
Yes It's okay, I've been using the test machines, and all of them passed.
Are there any honest-to-goodness technical reasons why yum is the better choice?
Because apt for RPM was a hack. Was not built from the ground up to work for RPM where as YUM was. Yum was nowhere near apt in functionality but it is getting there. Maybe Fedora is stubborn in using apt for the same reason Debian was stubborn in using anaconda. It was written by "them".
Don't forget about the binary DVD folks, It's much cooler not having to switch CD's during install, or waste 4 CD's
Don't use Ford as an analogy. People weren't downloading mustangs for free. People were PAYING for ford's cars. Not enough ppl were buying RHEL, as soon as RHL stopped you saw their revenue go through the roof, why? Cause so many people were only not paying cause they didn't have to, the free product was just as good for their needs.
Read some of the other posts, other search engines carry it such as yahoo which is based in the Bay Area in California. Google ITSELF has the images just not in the images area which is updated every 6 months apparently. type 'abu ghraib photos' into google and look at the first link if you want images, google isn't censoring the content. Thats the same way you find it on yahoo or anywhere else. this is basically a non story. Just another story trying to troll and make a bush bashing thread talking about how horrible america and its president is. I'm sick of it to be honest. How come we don't talk about the soldiers who were hung upside down on the bridge with their throats slit just weeks before this abu ghraib stuff? How come slashdot didn't do a story this week on that school classroom that was booby trapped with a ton of explosives to the light switch? apparently killing a classroom full of children isn't nearly as bad as making people stand naked.
Then why do the other search engines still carry it? It seems like Google has something confused and not the government
Amazing isn't it. So desperate to bash the president they can pluck something out of thin air and blame Bush for it.
Only killing the desktop? Wouldn't the equivalent be Ford deciding to quit selling passenger cars and only continue selling diesel trucks?
No because redhat didn't kill anything, It's just what people say who don't understand what actually happened, or do understand but choose to use FUD as leverage to gain support for their favorite distro. You'll notice everytime someone bashes a distro, they will plug their favorite in the next sentence. It's much like politics. Slashdot readers have no excuse they're tech savy and should know that Red Hat didn't abandon the broke users, they gave us Fedora. If you need a stable product for a "server" chances are that you use that server to make money (if it's to learn student prices are dirt cheap). You should be paying red hat. To those people who cry that Red Hat will not Give away all their work plus support it for 10 years free of charge need to wake the hell up and stop being so ideological, even RMS understands this. They have top coders working there who don't get paid with peanuts. I understood this right away and switched to Fedora.
and nearly certainly in Germany
Didn't red hat win an account out there earlier this year for the second largest IP carrier in Germany? Also Red Hat's European Headquarters is in Munich, and the CEO was saying this week they plan to make an even bigger push in Europe because the market in the US isn't making a large shift yet.
I hear over and over RedHat rules the US but its not big in Europe. Is there any facts out there supporting this claim, or do we just assume SuSE was born in germany therefore everyone uses it throughout europe.
Thats not even an honorable death, dying from a robot?
As opposed to the "honorable death" of blowing yourself up around people just going to work?
I'm not sure I understand.
RedHat has done quite a bit of good over a decade. I'll go out on a limb and say they've done more than any single distributer. And you want to leave them not for technical merrit, but because another company GPL'd ximain connecter and yast? How about the companies Red Hat has recently bought. Netscape Directory, Sistina's GFS or 'stateless linux' on the horizon. I could put together a huge list of software RedHat GPL'd why is SuSE more deserving of "political capitol" than the guys who've been doing this for 10 years?
I was just going to bring this up. I follow the boards on stock forums, and investers seem nervous. This is the guy who was brought in pushing for Linux a couple years ago, now he just up and leaves one day? This is apparently what happened at Tilion it seemed fine then he left and shocked everyone. Also people on the board say many exec's at Novell have been leaving, is this also true? All the news seems bad things like they sold 20,000 subscriptions, but 10,000 of that was to one company.
RedHat is well embedded in the "sure I'll pay for linux" market. Its a tough nut to crack for anyone. I just can't see Novell taking over RH on Linux, RH just plays the game so well in a decade of working with a spazz community the only two real screw up's ppl have flailed their arms at them for are "killing the desktop" and "a bad GCC". One hell of a track record for a company who is surrounded by an emotional community.
Mod parent up!
Idiotic slashdotter bashing the united states on an unrelated topic.. mod up!
Terminal cirrhosis of the liver isn't pretty.
I didn't say a thing about alcohol, but since you want to use the argument alcohol is worse than Cocaine to justify legalization; lets see. A man comes home from work and beats his kids/wife because of that, he gets into a car and kills someone because of it. So because of this we should make MORE drugs legal? I don't follow your logic.. since we have shotguns why not give everyone bazooka's and AK-47's? This is silly.
Actually, if we just smoked the plant there would be little problem.
I was referring to weed which everyone else wants legal. I was trying to say legalizing cocaine is not as harmless as someone who wants to smoke a joint before bed.
No, it is the fruitless attempts at interdiction that ruin whole countries. Colombia used to be one of the prime tourist spots of the world, and they've been 'doing coke' for millenia
You mean before one of their main sources of income was kidnapping tourists and threating to shop their heads off if we don't pay them? Yes sounds like Colombia is a great vacation spot.
Colombia they always mispell it, and it is the kind of pure American ignorance that makes the rest of the world anti-American.
Anyone who thinks a mis spelling is a reason to hate a whole country shows astounding ignorance. Anyone who thinks like that hated way before they heard us say 'columbia'. But thats fine, keep telling us Americans why everyone in the world hates us. I know I really care, no really... no really.
the war on some plants that some people take offense at for some reason remains as daft and unwinable as it ever was.
For some reason? Have you ever seen a crack baby? This isn't just some plant god gave us to smoke. It flat out kills people and ruins whole country's.
congratulations america! you've completely alienated yourselves from all of your former allies and friends and earned the distrust and emnity of the rest of the planet.
Yes our long time allies like France, Russia, China and Germany. With Allies like that who needs friends?
I got news for you, we know much of the world dislikes the US but news flash, many of us don't give a crap about you anymore either. 100's of thousands of Americans spilled blood on Europe's shores and you cry babies whine about the 10-15 that died in Iraq? well boo hoo. Here is the thing. If your countrys weren't dirty and doing business with saddam they'd be right there next to us, and saying how good of a thing it is we're doing. We were blocked by the few nations going against sanctions, and doing business with the only maniac in history to attack "_ALL_" his border nations. Remember that. Nobody else really had a problem with it.
The House of Representatives voted on bill to reinstate the draft by Democrat Charles Rangel (NY), and defeated it soundly, 402-2. The bill, which languished in Congress with no real support since its introduction in January 2003, has often been used as evidence the Republicans favor a draft, despite the fact that a Democrat sponsored it, 14 other Democrats cosponsored it, and no Republicans supported it.
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Before you say I'm biast that is pasted from a slashdot topic see http://politics.slashdot.org/politics/04/10/06/04
Just doesn't seem as creative to me thats what I ment by plain. No mistaking BMW, RedHat or Apple, Windows, Sun, etc.
It's alittle plain, I like the BSD devil too, but RedHat's Shadowman is my favorite logo.
you should have been modded up, you were robbed.I mean it wasn't a great "America sucks" post but good enough IMO.
Guess you posted too late, try and post on the thread earlier next time.
No. But we're not talking about praying, we're talking about him wanting to destroy a whole race of people then build shari'a law spreading it throughout the world by terror. A simple case of "the ends justifies the means" in his eyes.
Yes I think that is enough to discredit anything and everything he has to say when it comes to "what he thinks"I know I'll be taunted and modded down by the bible bashing extreme right wingers (and supporters) for saying this, but to quote Michael Moore, spreading democracy through the barrel of a gun rarely works.
This is slashdot, the more you bash america the higher up you go, the more you defend it the lower you drop. (see my post as an example)
Yes, cause Bin Laden really cares about our well being right? He's trying to act like Mr. Nice guy to divide us even more. oh we only set thousands of you on fire cause we want to kill isreal and have shari'a law. He's gone on record (in 1998 interview) That he thinks the american people to be weak and can easily be divided in long wars. Thats exactly what he (and many others) are someone what successfully doing.