Learn the difference between "Copying" and "Using".
Re:Removing motivation to create innovative IP
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Yes.. some people will always create.
Without IP however, those who are good at creating have to find something else to do to put food on the table.
If someone is particularly good at, say, plumbing, and likes to do that, does it make sense to force him to build fences to survive and hope in his off time he'll stop by with his wrench and pipe to fix your faucet?
So why does it make sense to force good song-writers to drive forklifts to survive and hope they have enough energy to write songs for the rest of us for free after?
Even those who would create anyway.. if society wants what they provide, let them earn their survival by providing that.
You want socialism? Socialism is expecting someone to provide something to society for free.
Oh wait.. he said the support that "evolves around" Windows.
This true.. there's a ton of websites out there telling you how to do stuff that Microsoft made unintuitive. Personally, I hate those sites. If they all died, so would a lot of Microsoft's users.
Wal-Mart never put any small Mom and Pop out-of-business, you and I did.
Maybe you did.
I didn't.
I don't shop there. Won't.
Just a drop against the tide, I know, but I keep hoping enough drops will get together and we can turn it back.
Maybe it's because I think long-term. Maybe it's because I've seen what a Wal-mart can do to a small town. It moves in, gives the teen-agers and otherwise less employable jobs at cut-rate wages. Seems good so far.
It then uses it's huge economies of scale to undercut everything around, again, seems good for the consumer, right?
The problem is, it doesn't actually give a rats ass for the people around it and gives as little as legally possible back to the community. "Fair and sustainable" are not words in the Wal-Mart corporate prospectus.
Smaller shops, unable to compete, close up. Sooner or later the only employer in the area is Wal-Mart. When that happens then that particular store's profit goes down (because everybody's getting the crap wages so can't afford to buy anything) at which point the Wal-Mart closes up and lets the rest of the town just blow away.
The store is a parasite. It lives off the work of those who came before it until they can't afford to stick around.
The person who has nothing but downloaded MP3s and CD-Rs burned from downloaded MP3s was NOT going to buy the album in the first place. Instead, the person would have bummed a copy off of a friend who had purchased it.
This is equally horseshit. Do you have any type of statistical proof of this?
You are totally discounting the type of person who says "I could pay for this, but I can get it for free and it's good enough."
The fact that you're into high-quality doesn't mean everybody else is. Hell, some people still listen to AM radio.
So, if you combine these two things, then there definitely is some money lost to people who download it as opposed to buying it. Now, the RIAA may be making that back in the increased exposure leading to higher purchases, I don't know.
But to simply say "People who download wouldn't have bought anyway" is crap.
However the idea is still sound, it's just the degree it was taken to.
Instead, find the spam-kings and queens and apply huge fines and a short jail term for "economic damage over one million dollars".
Apply proportional fines to those companies that are the spammers customers for "encouraging behavior leading to.."
Hell, these days you could probably even get it classed as a terrorist activity.
Yeah, there'd be others popping up, but if you pursued this aggressively enough it'd be a significant deterrent both to those companies that don't do their research before hiring, as well as the individuals responsible for it. In turn, that allows all of us to be more productive.
You must also think it's grossly unfair to have everybody paying for.. oh.. MRI's, emergency funding for natural disasters, the fire department, or even post-secondary education since the majority of people never use any of these things as well, hm?
I don't know about the poster, but I'm in favor of the government dictating proper licensing for specific car sizes, yes.
You want to drive a big rig? It takes a special license. Considering that SUV's and the like take advantage of special commercial vehicle tax-breaks due to their size, it only stands to reason that in order to drive one, you need to be licensed accordingly.
And a piece of information for you....if you're willing to hold drivers of the Hummers, Excursions and Suburbans to the same standards we hold the drivers of the other vehicles you mentioned, you have a point.
It's funny, everybody with a negative review of B&W complains about having to micromanage the villagers. But the thing is, the only thing you really have to micromanage is dropping structures.
The little guys do have some of the AI that's included in your creature. They tend to learn what works best for satisfying their needs and do more of it. So if when they bitch for food it miraculously appears in their stores, guess what they do next time? Instead, plant a couple fields and let them do the work themselves. If you're feeling really generous, teach your creature how to use the call rain spell to water the fields for them.
Now, I'll agree that the interface just blew. You're going around the world like a flight-sim, this idea of having to grab the land and haul yourself around? Cute in concept, lousy for actual use. I didn't have a lot of problems with the mouse gestures myself, but that's probably a hardware thing as much as anything else.
The other problem of course is that Black and White was hyped as a game, but it's not really, it's more of a sim. Folks who approach it from that angle tend to have more fun with it.
Perhaps as a place where they can demonstrate their abilities and thus be taken more seriously when they approach the publishers with their own projects in the system?
Ah. So going by this logic, we know that washing machines are only designed to slosh water around, that clocks are only designed to turn a wheel, and that motorcycle engines are only designed to.. uhh.. turn a wheel, as well. So does this mean I should expect you to drive to work on your Timex? Or that you'd like me to wake you with my Harley?
Be honest. The primary reason guns are purchased is specifically with the intent to kill something if the situation arises. Most often that situation is hunting and that something is an animal, second most often that something is a human and the situation is the person threatening your life, family and/or property. Very often, both of these are the reason for the purchase.
Target-shooting, while it may be the number one use for guns, is only a distant third in the reasons that people purchase guns.
Guns are designed to kill things. You can't escape that because there happen to be ancilliary uses.
In the Betamax decision, it was never a question that video tapes and VCRs existed to copy things. What was decided was that the primary use of these was time-shifting, and that copyright violations were an ancilliary use that did not justify banning the technology.
P2P is, in my opinion, on a lot shakier ground, and I say that being Canadian, where downloading is not prohibited.
Been there, done that, have the T-shirt design on standby.
Worked surprisingly well after a couple of minor tweaks: Weapons are not standard issue equipment. Lethality level lowered slightly. (1 column shift on everything) GM establishing a coherent setting and letting players see that they could in fact survive and develop their characters if they were smart enough.
Hence why I specifically used the term "scumbag lawyer" to differentiate from the other lawyers.
Yes, you're entitled to a defense, but there's nothing in the Constitution that says the lawyer has to lie, twist words, or even be offensive, in order to do it.
An acceptable defense in this case "My clients did not intend, or believe, that their actions would inconvenience people but rather aid them by informing them of my clients' product. Further, they content that a reasonable person would not find their methods any more obtrustive than a television advertisement," etc. instead of basically coming out and trying to tell society "Suck it up. My clients want to do this and there's squat you can do about it unless you're an enemy of freedom."
You know other annoyances you might have to deal with in a free society? People throwing excrement at your house and car if you're a scumbag lawyer.
Hell, it's biodegradable, so it can be argued that it takes even less action to clean up than a windows messenger pop-up.. just leave it there long enough and it'll go away.
How many people didn't buy an album because they could just download it?
Haven't you been keeping up with the news? The RIAA already has that database somewhere....at least, I assume they do, because they keep coming out with how much they've lost to piracy and they wouldn't just pull those numbers out of their collective asses, now would they? Would they?
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So you're gonna drive 500 Camry's?
No wait.. you're going to sell them. I see.
And you're not going to sell your extra DVD copies?
Sounds like you're just a bad businessman to me.
Learn the difference between "Copying" and "Using".
Yes.. some people will always create.
Without IP however, those who are good at creating have to find something else to do to put food on the table.
If someone is particularly good at, say, plumbing, and likes to do that, does it make sense to force him to build fences to survive and hope in his off time he'll stop by with his wrench and pipe to fix your faucet?
So why does it make sense to force good song-writers to drive forklifts to survive and hope they have enough energy to write songs for the rest of us for free after?
Even those who would create anyway.. if society wants what they provide, let them earn their survival by providing that.
You want socialism? Socialism is expecting someone to provide something to society for free.
There's this interesting chalk removing invention they have now called "a bucket of water". You might find it addresses your complaints quite nicely.
Why bitch when you can do?
Eh?
More like: From the No-duh dept.
..is an eco-system, we must be living on Io.
Oh wait.. he said the support that "evolves around" Windows.
This true.. there's a ton of websites out there telling you how to do stuff that Microsoft made unintuitive. Personally, I hate those sites. If they all died, so would a lot of Microsoft's users.
Wal-Mart never put any small Mom and Pop out-of-business, you and I did.
Maybe you did.
I didn't.
I don't shop there. Won't.
Just a drop against the tide, I know, but I keep hoping enough drops will get together and we can turn it back.
Maybe it's because I think long-term.
Maybe it's because I've seen what a Wal-mart can do to a small town. It moves in, gives the teen-agers and otherwise less employable jobs at cut-rate wages. Seems good so far.
It then uses it's huge economies of scale to undercut everything around, again, seems good for the consumer, right?
The problem is, it doesn't actually give a rats ass for the people around it and gives as little as legally possible back to the community. "Fair and sustainable" are not words in the Wal-Mart corporate prospectus.
Smaller shops, unable to compete, close up. Sooner or later the only employer in the area is Wal-Mart. When that happens then that particular store's profit goes down (because everybody's getting the crap wages so can't afford to buy anything) at which point the Wal-Mart closes up and lets the rest of the town just blow away.
The store is a parasite. It lives off the work of those who came before it until they can't afford to stick around.
Definitely a guy test.. ..only a guy wouldn't think to add the answer "d. Turn the thing on."
Actually, he's right..
..in Canada
Just because they're not checking age doesn't mean they're not doing background checking.
The person who has nothing but downloaded MP3s and CD-Rs burned from downloaded MP3s was NOT going to buy the album in the first place. Instead, the person would have bummed a copy off of a friend who had purchased it.
This is equally horseshit. Do you have any type of statistical proof of this?
You are totally discounting the type of person who says "I could pay for this, but I can get it for free and it's good enough."
The fact that you're into high-quality doesn't mean everybody else is. Hell, some people still listen to AM radio.
So, if you combine these two things, then there definitely is some money lost to people who download it as opposed to buying it. Now, the RIAA may be making that back in the increased exposure leading to higher purchases, I don't know.
But to simply say "People who download wouldn't have bought anyway" is crap.
However the idea is still sound, it's just the degree it was taken to.
Instead, find the spam-kings and queens and apply huge fines and a short jail term for "economic damage over one million dollars".
Apply proportional fines to those companies that are the spammers customers for "encouraging behavior leading to.."
Hell, these days you could probably even get it classed as a terrorist activity.
Yeah, there'd be others popping up, but if you pursued this aggressively enough it'd be a significant deterrent both to those companies that don't do their research before hiring, as well as the individuals responsible for it. In turn, that allows all of us to be more productive.
The towel won't get thrown in until Darl's house in a non-extraditing country has been completed.
After all, it's unlikely the SEC is able to turn a completely blind eye to the SCOX shenanigan's
You are showing your age.. ..but it's not old.
/emit bunny hops merrily away.
The old ones among us remember the time when no online games allowed you to do any of those things.
Well.. I suppose you could bunny hop.
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You must also think it's grossly unfair to have everybody paying for.. oh.. MRI's, emergency funding for natural disasters, the fire department, or even post-secondary education since the majority of people never use any of these things as well, hm?
I don't know about the poster, but I'm in favor of the government dictating proper licensing for specific car sizes, yes.
You want to drive a big rig? It takes a special license. Considering that SUV's and the like take advantage of special commercial vehicle tax-breaks due to their size, it only stands to reason that in order to drive one, you need to be licensed accordingly.
And a piece of information for you.. ..if you're willing to hold drivers of the Hummers, Excursions and Suburbans to the same standards we hold the drivers of the other vehicles you mentioned, you have a point.
Otherwise, you're comparing apples to oranges.
It's funny, everybody with a negative review of B&W complains about having to micromanage the villagers. But the thing is, the only thing you really have to micromanage is dropping structures.
The little guys do have some of the AI that's included in your creature. They tend to learn what works best for satisfying their needs and do more of it. So if when they bitch for food it miraculously appears in their stores, guess what they do next time? Instead, plant a couple fields and let them do the work themselves. If you're feeling really generous, teach your creature how to use the call rain spell to water the fields for them.
Now, I'll agree that the interface just blew. You're going around the world like a flight-sim, this idea of having to grab the land and haul yourself around? Cute in concept, lousy for actual use. I didn't have a lot of problems with the mouse gestures myself, but that's probably a hardware thing as much as anything else.
The other problem of course is that Black and White was hyped as a game, but it's not really, it's more of a sim. Folks who approach it from that angle tend to have more fun with it.
Perhaps as a place where they can demonstrate their abilities and thus be taken more seriously when they approach the publishers with their own projects in the system?
Too bad simple != correct.
Ah. So going by this logic, we know that washing machines are only designed to slosh water around, that clocks are only designed to turn a wheel, and that motorcycle engines are only designed to.. uhh.. turn a wheel, as well. So does this mean I should expect you to drive to work on your Timex? Or that you'd like me to wake you with my Harley?
Be honest. The primary reason guns are purchased is specifically with the intent to kill something if the situation arises. Most often that situation is hunting and that something is an animal, second most often that something is a human and the situation is the person threatening your life, family and/or property. Very often, both of these are the reason for the purchase.
Target-shooting, while it may be the number one use for guns, is only a distant third in the reasons that people purchase guns.
Guns are designed to kill things. You can't escape that because there happen to be ancilliary uses.
In the Betamax decision, it was never a question that video tapes and VCRs existed to copy things. What was decided was that the primary use of these was time-shifting, and that copyright violations were an ancilliary use that did not justify banning the technology.
P2P is, in my opinion, on a lot shakier ground, and I say that being Canadian, where downloading is not prohibited.
Been there, done that, have the T-shirt design on standby.
Worked surprisingly well after a couple of minor tweaks:
Weapons are not standard issue equipment.
Lethality level lowered slightly. (1 column shift on everything)
GM establishing a coherent setting and letting players see that they could in fact survive and develop their characters if they were smart enough.
Hence why I specifically used the term "scumbag lawyer" to differentiate from the other lawyers.
Yes, you're entitled to a defense, but there's nothing in the Constitution that says the lawyer has to lie, twist words, or even be offensive, in order to do it.
An acceptable defense in this case "My clients did not intend, or believe, that their actions would inconvenience people but rather aid them by informing them of my clients' product. Further, they content that a reasonable person would not find their methods any more obtrustive than a television advertisement," etc. instead of basically coming out and trying to tell society "Suck it up. My clients want to do this and there's squat you can do about it unless you're an enemy of freedom."
You know other annoyances you might have to deal with in a free society? People throwing excrement at your house and car if you're a scumbag lawyer.
Hell, it's biodegradable, so it can be argued that it takes even less action to clean up than a windows messenger pop-up.. just leave it there long enough and it'll go away.
How many people didn't buy an album because they could just download it?
..at least, I assume they do, because they keep coming out with how much they've lost to piracy and they wouldn't just pull those numbers out of their collective asses, now would they?
Haven't you been keeping up with the news? The RIAA already has that database somewhere..
Would they?