Having served in the army (doing tech), if we had gotten rid of people for not having the right social skills, we would have very few people left, so I disagree.
The army has the advantage of all its members having put through an acculturation regime made to (in some cases literally) beat people into acting according to army standars. And it still doesn't work some of the time.
I really can't imagine where these people are working that this is even an issue. I'm a professional in the tech industry and I can't imagine anyone I've worked with having any sort of inappropriate interactions with female colleagues (nor have I ever encountered this happening in almost two decades in the industry). Aren't we at least two or three decades past the transitional "women coming into the workplace" period? Aren't practically all the guys that would be old enough for this to even remotely be a problem for already retired?
Depends on what you mean by "inappropriate". In nearly every company I've been in, there's been employees who met on the job and dated each other. It's going to happen, almost every time you get men and women together. This pretty much has to involve preliminaries which would be considered "inappropriate" by today's standards.
Because the original, all male group was a disaster in the making. Perhaps having a bunch of 12 year old boys on a team might work in the short term, but sooner or later, the immaturity is going to cause a major problem.
Groups like that have existed since about forever --- and they've managed to do a lot of good work without any problem despite being boys clubs. Diversity may be a value in and of itself today, but it's not actually necessary to get the job done.
As for doing anything about bringing a woman in to the new team... sadly, just about anything done proactively will make things worse. Read them the riot act, and they'll be resentful. If you need the 11 people to be a team, you cannot set up an "us versus her" situation at the start. Just bring her in like any new member, but be ready to slap down anyone who acts like an asshole -- and this includes her as well.
Yeah, but it provides a little bit of ammunition to the scoffers who claim the RIAA et al AREN'T comic-book style villians, twirling their mustachios and plotting to destroy the Internet.
It could have been worse, how about Muskrat Love? That would have been truly diabolical.
The penultimate album in the playlist is "Celine Dion's Greatest Hits". The final album is a custom mix including Memories, both the Streisand version and the Manilow version -- if that doesn't work, we go to DEFCON 1. Since these last two arguably violate the Geneva Conventions, they're to be used only in the direst extreme.
I just let my car remain dirty. In addition to being easier, this leaves a protective layer of dirt covering the paint film. (I do remove bird droppings, however)
Why are we talking as though the options are "tell the truth and ream them" and "lie through your teeth to be nice"? Didn't we learn constructive criticism back when we were junior whatevers at our first job?
No, we* didn't. Because we quickly learned that the operative word in "constructive criticism" was "criticism". That is, all the "constructive" stuff was just window dressing to allow the glib talkers to get in a few shots without violating certain norms of etiquette. For one thing, we found that distasteful. For another, we realized using it ourselves would never work, because the slick types could always beat us at that game. So we stuck to plain talking, and learned to strip all the meaningless "constructive" words from anything which smacked of criticism, extracting and responding to the relevant part where blame was being placed.
* For some possibly small values of "we"
I haven't been diagnosed with terminal cancer, chemistry isn't my top skill, and I'd rather use the pseudoephedrine as a decongestant. So I won't be providing meth and crack for anyone. However, if anyone is going to provide free drugs, I'd suggest they stick with the opioids; someone high on speed or crack is a lot more trouble than someone on opioids.
And in the bad-old-days we were told that there were only 2 of them, FBI and CIA, and only one of them were allowed to spook against the citizens of America (that was, FBI)
Yeah, and that was crap; there were several other agencies (such as the National Security Agency) and all of them spied on US citizens whether they were allowed or not.
Nowadays, can someone please tell me now many are out there?
If the USA actually took care of it's people, it would find that a lot of the lesser crimes would stop, as people wouldn't feel the need to steal or do crimes to feed their family. Instead, the USA spends in money in useless crap like wars
The US crime rate started dropping about the same time we got into the first Gulf War, after a decade of increase during a decade of peace.
And unless "taking care" of people includes providing them with all the opiates, meth, cocaine, booze, and cigarettes they can consume, it isn't going to do much about crime in the US.
There are ways to dispute a law you disagree with. Disobeying it is usually not a good way.
Disobeying it is usually the ONLY way. It's about the only way you can even get a reaction from the behemoth usually called "society", even if it's the wrong reaction. Complaining while obeying simply gets you ignored, because "society" has what it wants.
That is, unless the US start requiring that people that post such things be extradicted there.
It is not illegal in the US to post instructions for installing libdvdcss, as long as one does not include an actual hyperlink to the software. You can include the web address, but not the actual <a href=... Ridiculous? Enormously so.
This raises the important question of whom I should call. If it's not supposed to be there, that means that somebody, possibly one of my co-workers planted it. PROBABLY one of my co-workers planted it. Now my trust in all my coworkers is in question.
If I find one of these things in my office, I'd call information security; if need be they can talk to physical security to figure out how it got there. If one of my co-workers planted it (and it wasn't a legitimate test, in which case I suppose blue team won), one of my co-workers is probably fired and possibly prosecuted.
If the HS planted it, they're likely not going to admit it. If they do, I suppose we'd have to give them their toy back. Though if it were my decision, I'd install a backdoor in their backdoor first.
A design patent does not claim ownership of the individual elements of the design, but rather rights over the specific combination of those multiple elements. So it is more accurate to say that Apple has claimed rights over devices that resemble an iPad in multiple ways, overall shape and proportions being only one of those.
Have you seen D'889? BTW, the Galaxy Tab is actually proportioned differently than the iPad, so that's not even an element.
I think working as a programmer should only require that you be *good at writing code*. It shouldn't matter how sensitive or insensitive you are, and it shouldn't matter how much capacity you have for handling stress coming from having blatantly insensitive, domineering coworkers.
You belie yourself. If it "shouldn't matter" how insensitive you are, the same should apply to your coworkers, yet you're objecting to their insensitivity. And if you think there isn't stress from dealing with ridiculously oversensitive hair-trigger offended-by-everything coworkers, either you are one or you've never dealt with such a person.
They have about a 50/50 mix of men and women, mostly in their late 20's, early 30's, new parents or soon-to-be parents. Over lunch, people talk about kids and related issues, news, sports, or even on occasion technology. I'm sure that nobody there would have even thought of naming a debug value like this. Not thought of it and suppressed it in the name of professionalism, it just wouldn't have occurred to them.
Really? So once you have kids or are about to, you simply lose the desire to make dumb jokes? Wow.
Reading all these +5 comments about how women just have to stop being so wimpy, and about how a good working environment is one where you can be yourself without having to worry about political correctness, paints a picture in my mind of a very different kind of company. One where all the employees are nerds with limited personal skills who like it when everybody else is just like that, so that they can safely extend puberty by another year without their environment confronting them with the fact that it's really time to grow up.
Except the company in question is Microsoft. Not exactly a favorite of Slashdot's hordes of basement-dwelling socially-challenged geeks. About as staid and respectable a company as you'll find in the business, perhaps excepting IBM (which is where 0xdeadbeef came from, BTW. IBM also uses 0xdeadbabe, but maybe that's not sexism; it could just be because there's no 'y')
Perhaps the socially-challenged basement-dwelling geeks have a point about oversensitivity and whinyness. Perhaps "growing up" doesn't have to mean becoming a humorless automaton not above leaving little jokes in the code for others to find. Maybe I'm just an immature nerd myself, but the first time I saw a stack dump start with "deadbeef badfca11", I thought it was pretty funny.
but it seems to me that the main issue that women have with the geek-IT-culture is that they get tired of the immaturity in general.
But if you say "sexism" the guys in question are automatically wrong. If you say "immaturity" there can be reasonable disagreement.
BTW, if any woman feels like using the hex constant 0xd1c41e55, I won't be offended (but of course my position as a card-carrying member of the patriarchy means that's my privilege). Handy tip for slipping shit past the radar: put it in decimal. Or endian-reversed.
I can only imagine that when someone invents teleportation, it will be outlawed and the designs burned and the inventor executed, because of the fear that 75% of the population will lose their jobs.
No, it'll be outlawed because it will make smuggling easy and borders irrelevant.
It's not designed to work on the nuts, it's designed to work on the ones the nuts are trying to recruit.
Right... the nuts are working on stirring up the mark's religious fervor, and inserting "Penis" in the middle of the conversation sort of ruins the mood.
Actually, let's. Regardless of the how and why, the people running the drug trade right now are grade-A assholes. They are the kinds of assholes who are traffickers by nature, and if you legalized drugs they would move on to trafficking something you like less.
And at that point enforcement is appropriate. Seems to me they'll be a lot easier to stop if you cut off one of their most profitable products, though.
The reality is that the drug cartels are responsible for massive human rights atrocities on a scale unparalleled by any other offenders in today's world.
Then take public transit. Name one city where renting a space for a car costs more than $300/month and they don't have excellent public transit options.
New York.
(Nope, no excellent public transit options. Halfway decent public transit options in most of Manhattan and a few parts of the other boroughs. Rather poor public transit (as in slow-ass buses) everywhere else.)
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The army has the advantage of all its members having put through an acculturation regime made to (in some cases literally) beat people into acting according to army standars. And it still doesn't work some of the time.
Depends on what you mean by "inappropriate". In nearly every company I've been in, there's been employees who met on the job and dated each other. It's going to happen, almost every time you get men and women together. This pretty much has to involve preliminaries which would be considered "inappropriate" by today's standards.
Groups like that have existed since about forever --- and they've managed to do a lot of good work without any problem despite being boys clubs. Diversity may be a value in and of itself today, but it's not actually necessary to get the job done.
As for doing anything about bringing a woman in to the new team... sadly, just about anything done proactively will make things worse. Read them the riot act, and they'll be resentful. If you need the 11 people to be a team, you cannot set up an "us versus her" situation at the start. Just bring her in like any new member, but be ready to slap down anyone who acts like an asshole -- and this includes her as well.
Yeah, but it provides a little bit of ammunition to the scoffers who claim the RIAA et al AREN'T comic-book style villians, twirling their mustachios and plotting to destroy the Internet.
Worse than that -- Omarosa, the designated villain from the first Apprentice, was still working for Trump 5 years later.
The penultimate album in the playlist is "Celine Dion's Greatest Hits". The final album is a custom mix including Memories, both the Streisand version and the Manilow version -- if that doesn't work, we go to DEFCON 1. Since these last two arguably violate the Geneva Conventions, they're to be used only in the direst extreme.
I just let my car remain dirty. In addition to being easier, this leaves a protective layer of dirt covering the paint film. (I do remove bird droppings, however)
No, we* didn't. Because we quickly learned that the operative word in "constructive criticism" was "criticism". That is, all the "constructive" stuff was just window dressing to allow the glib talkers to get in a few shots without violating certain norms of etiquette. For one thing, we found that distasteful. For another, we realized using it ourselves would never work, because the slick types could always beat us at that game. So we stuck to plain talking, and learned to strip all the meaningless "constructive" words from anything which smacked of criticism, extracting and responding to the relevant part where blame was being placed. * For some possibly small values of "we"
I haven't been diagnosed with terminal cancer, chemistry isn't my top skill, and I'd rather use the pseudoephedrine as a decongestant. So I won't be providing meth and crack for anyone. However, if anyone is going to provide free drugs, I'd suggest they stick with the opioids; someone high on speed or crack is a lot more trouble than someone on opioids.
The AS/400 was introduced in 1988, about 20 years too late to have anything to do with the start of the Internet.
Yeah, and that was crap; there were several other agencies (such as the National Security Agency) and all of them spied on US citizens whether they were allowed or not.
That's classified.
The US crime rate started dropping about the same time we got into the first Gulf War, after a decade of increase during a decade of peace.
And unless "taking care" of people includes providing them with all the opiates, meth, cocaine, booze, and cigarettes they can consume, it isn't going to do much about crime in the US.
Disobeying it is usually the ONLY way. It's about the only way you can even get a reaction from the behemoth usually called "society", even if it's the wrong reaction. Complaining while obeying simply gets you ignored, because "society" has what it wants.
It is not illegal in the US to post instructions for installing libdvdcss, as long as one does not include an actual hyperlink to the software. You can include the web address, but not the actual <a href=... Ridiculous? Enormously so.
If I find one of these things in my office, I'd call information security; if need be they can talk to physical security to figure out how it got there. If one of my co-workers planted it (and it wasn't a legitimate test, in which case I suppose blue team won), one of my co-workers is probably fired and possibly prosecuted.
If the HS planted it, they're likely not going to admit it. If they do, I suppose we'd have to give them their toy back. Though if it were my decision, I'd install a backdoor in their backdoor first.
Have you seen D'889? BTW, the Galaxy Tab is actually proportioned differently than the iPad, so that's not even an element.
You belie yourself. If it "shouldn't matter" how insensitive you are, the same should apply to your coworkers, yet you're objecting to their insensitivity. And if you think there isn't stress from dealing with ridiculously oversensitive hair-trigger offended-by-everything coworkers, either you are one or you've never dealt with such a person.
Really? So once you have kids or are about to, you simply lose the desire to make dumb jokes? Wow.
Except the company in question is Microsoft. Not exactly a favorite of Slashdot's hordes of basement-dwelling socially-challenged geeks. About as staid and respectable a company as you'll find in the business, perhaps excepting IBM (which is where 0xdeadbeef came from, BTW. IBM also uses 0xdeadbabe, but maybe that's not sexism; it could just be because there's no 'y')
Perhaps the socially-challenged basement-dwelling geeks have a point about oversensitivity and whinyness. Perhaps "growing up" doesn't have to mean becoming a humorless automaton not above leaving little jokes in the code for others to find. Maybe I'm just an immature nerd myself, but the first time I saw a stack dump start with "deadbeef badfca11", I thought it was pretty funny.
But if you say "sexism" the guys in question are automatically wrong. If you say "immaturity" there can be reasonable disagreement.
BTW, if any woman feels like using the hex constant 0xd1c41e55, I won't be offended (but of course my position as a card-carrying member of the patriarchy means that's my privilege). Handy tip for slipping shit past the radar: put it in decimal. Or endian-reversed.
No, it'll be outlawed because it will make smuggling easy and borders irrelevant.
Um, carrying a shuttle on the back of a 747 is how it's typically transported. About as geektastic as a furniture shipment, by now.
It's best to troll everywhere, just to make sure.
Right... the nuts are working on stirring up the mark's religious fervor, and inserting "Penis" in the middle of the conversation sort of ruins the mood.
And at that point enforcement is appropriate. Seems to me they'll be a lot easier to stop if you cut off one of their most profitable products, though.
Except governments.
New York.
(Nope, no excellent public transit options. Halfway decent public transit options in most of Manhattan and a few parts of the other boroughs. Rather poor public transit (as in slow-ass buses) everywhere else.)