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Trolling Al Qaeda... For Peace?
The Mister Purple writes "There is a small initiative underway to combat Islamic militant recruiting on the Internet... by trolling them. Quoting the article: 'The program, called Viral Peace, seeks to occupy the virtual space that extremists fill, one thread or Twitter exchange at a time. Shahed Amanullah, a senior technology adviser to the State Department and Viral Peace's creator, tells Danger Room he wants to use "logic, humor, satire, [and] religious arguments, not just to confront [extremists], but to undermine and demoralize them." Think of it as strategic trolling, in pursuit of geopolitical pwnage.' So, does this mean that I'm promoting peace when I post YouTube comments?"
Because pissing people off is an effective way to get them to leave you alone.
My skills will be put to use!
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Ask not what your country can do for you, but what fuck Islam lololol.
Srsly u guys. U guys, srsly.
They always go down well
Nullius in verba
Be very careful when participating in this type of activity, because if you really annoy Al Qaida terrorists, they try to get revenge in some way.
For example, they might DDoS your server, or dox you, of any number of other similarly terrifying acts.
But this is the dumbest idea I ever heard. If anything, tweaking in this ineffectual manner would only steel their resolve.
"I was going to blow up a school full of kids, but someone showed me the goatse guy, and I thought better of it." Not likely.
it never worked on [Republicans, Democrats] (delete as per preference) so why should it work on fundies?
You're doing it wrong.
Give peace a chance.
Nuke Jerusalem.
"Kill 'em all and let Root sort 'em out"
Get ready to nullahfy terrorists!
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Just ten demons? Pussy.
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This is a good war porn action.. Its begging for some peace through trolling comments.
That's nothing compared to the experience I had with MyCleanPC.
Everything is better with chainsaws.
State-sponsored trolling is never a good idea. The police should investigate crimes and with some measure also attempt to prevent them. The purpose of intelligence agencies is to gather intelligence. Neither of this involves trolling around on online forums.
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Verbum caro factum est
Wow, you're a fucking idiot.
By your logic, since there's many instances of white terrorism, Christians are all fucking terrorists. Right? Right?
Assholes like you are the fucking problem with the world, not the overwhelming majority of Muslims that want to live peacefully. The rest of them, btw, want to be left alone and free of assholes like yourself egging governments into stripping them of their rights and invading their lands. When you get a fucking clue you might figure it out, then the rest of us might begin to live in peace. If you don't, please do humanity a favour and shoot yourself in the fucking brain.
Religion of Peace
We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion.
How the hell did this get modded insightful?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOo06EOLBuY Baka-bakalaka dirka dirka, Mohammed Jihad! :)
While I'm all for trolling Muslims, they are not going to decide to ignore the teachings of their faith and be peaceful, respect equality, free .
Muslims DOSE NOT = Al Qaeda
you fucking dick.
Muslims are a part of a religion
did you know the KKK calls them self Christian's?
so you know all Christian's are racist (via your logic).... just a heads up
Your hate of Islam isn't racist, just bigoted and ignorant. I bet you've never met a Muslim in your life.
Wow - I didn't know Breivik was a Muslim. And the IRA - secretly pretending to be Christian whilst actually being Muslim, whodathunkit?
Post Ponies to EVERYONE on the internet = All Problems Solved!!
Someone should have CONFISCATED bill gates' vast WEALTH to help you and we are all condemned to HELL for not doing it!
Not sure if troll or actually serious. Well played.
While I'm all for trolling Muslims
Never would have guessed that. You seem to be part of a different trolling campaign than the one promoted by the article though.
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They just came back to Europe a few hours ago, if you have not noticed. With a working bomb, too.
How do we encourage enough trolling to make this effective? Sure, this is a hobby many giddy internet goblins love to participate in, but we need a little boost gain to jump this up to effective levels. Obviously, we must, as a society, LEGALLY justify CONFISCATING Bill Gates' uncountably vast WEALTH to fund this much needed public good. The fact that this man has been allowed to keep his BILLIONS when there is much needed trolling of islamists to be done is a SIN and we are ALL condemned to HELL for it!
And whoever heard of an Islamic Militant holding a grudge?
It's not a waste!!!! It just needs to be done effectively!
How do we encourage enough trolling to make this effective? Sure, this is a hobby many giddy internet goblins love to participate in, but we need a little boost gain to jump this up to effective levels. Obviously, we must, as a society, LEGALLY justify CONFISCATING Bill Gates' uncountably vast WEALTH to fund this much needed public good. The fact that this man has been allowed to keep his BILLIONS when there is much needed trolling of islamists to be done is a SIN and we are ALL condemned to HELL for it!
I'm all for this. But I don't speak Hebrew... that's what they speak right? Anyway, any English speaking Mohammedans that have a forum?
Someone get 4chan on the line, I hear those guys have some EPIC trolls on their team.
It's not working anymore, is it?
rewriting history since 2109
It's best to troll everywhere, just to make sure.
You know, I knew a guy named Jesus. He was from Nogales. Is he the same guy? He didn't seem all that friendly or helpful, but you never know...
Logic AND religious arguments? So which side are supposed to be the nut-jobs here?
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you want them furiously attacking you, with words. you, an anonymous troll on the internet
rather than bombing people in the real world
keep them occupied and wasting their time on the Internet by pointing the object of their rage at trollish subjects and ideas rather than real people and places
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Apparently, it was a one-time device and not intended for repeated use.
They have no idea what word troll means, clearly. I doubt that the understand that troll and asshole mean the same thing online.
Was that comment your application to Viral Peace? If so, I'd hire you.
You've cured my Muslimism! The power of God has gone through my like liquid lava, and cleared my liver of Hepatitis also! Thank you so much!
Seriously, who marked this troll as off-topic? I'm going to bring all of my Muslim friends here too for this saving message!
Extremists: taking planned obsolescence one step too far.
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and do the obvious thing: stop bombing random countries in the middle east every four to eight years. Anyone whos read Osama Bin Ladens demand list knows that most of his argument is structured around the fact that we bomb indiscriminately most of the middle east, topple their governments, kill their nationals and foreign nationals with drones, prop up malevolent dictators and generally leave the countries we've "touched" a complete wreck. trolling for peace will be nearly as effective as the like button was for Kony2012.
the state department understands quite well we need al quaeda in some form, hence a plan thats effectively designed to bolster recruitment. Without a boogeyman we have no pretext to assert regional dominance, and that would mean we would have to double down on our iran rhetoric and face whats largely believed to be a capable opponent in a war no one would support. Everything since the carter foreign policy doctrine has completely screwed this country into ensuring we pound the snot out of some unsuspecting foreign nation in the gulf once a presidency, its just that we're running out of little guys to fight that dont have big teeth, or allies that simply wont tolerate the action.
Good people go to bed earlier.
No. "for great justice" and "for the lulz".
Your hate of Islam isn't racist, just bigoted and ignorant. I bet you've never met a Muslim in your life.
Your hate of rapist isn't racist, just bigoted and ignorant. I bet you've never met a rape victim in your life.
That is right, Islam is like a rapist and the muslim is the victim. Just because you can find a respectful and rational victim doesn't mean the rapist should go unpunished. Also, hating islam is not the same as hating the person that believe that sick cult(eg: the muslim). As it turn out, it is you that is bigoted and ignorant. Fuck off.
They screw the bolt until it breaks and then go back a quarter turn.
I think people reading too much into the description of the effort as "trolling".
Trolling on Usenet and sites like Slashdot is about provoking people who are otherwise engaged in reasoned, rational, discussions into flaming.
The Al Qaeda elements are presumably using weakly supported but not obviously wrong statements written to appeal to the emotions of would-be recruits and convince them that the irrational is reasonable. In other words, these elements are themselves trolling.
The counter would be to either reveal the trolls as nut jobs or provoke them to revealing that themselves. Posting fictitious but not obviously wrong arguments yourself is probably not the way to go about this.
What else do you expect from uptight nuts?
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Christian Terrorists have bigger guns and spend 10+ years slowly fucking another country in the name of Freedom. Pat yourself on the back and wash your semen encrusted dick in the Mediterranean sea once you pull of the middle east. Thanks to your dipshit cowboy flying ace of a president, lots of people died. And not just your own.
He said "more than ten". Might have been as many as... eleven.
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
Shahed Amanullah, a senior technology adviser to the State Department and Viral Peace's creator, tells Danger Room he wants to use "logic, humor, satire, [and] religious arguments, not just to confront [extremists], but to undermine and demoralize them."
Kind of like when Mel Brooks made fun of the Nazis.
Would you be interested in buying 5000 kilo's of TNT I inherited of my late grandfather?
The extremists are,.. well frankly fucking insane.
Have you seen them chanting allu ackbar over, and over, and over, and over (and over!) again in videos where they are in a battle of some sort? Setting off a remote IED or launching mortars or some such. This is not the behaviour of remotely rational people.
Same thing when the extremists are cutting the heads off people they've kidnapped, allu ackbar chanting chanting chanting endlessly. These people aren't exactly playing with a full deck.
Controversial opinion but I think it best we simply leave them alone and stay away. Let them do whatever they like in their country, don't interfere but also don't start importing them en masse to Western countries either.
(Causing problems in other countries, ) see:
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=islamification%20of%20france&hl=en&meta=
I don't want to hurt these people, I just don't want anything to do with these people.
proper internet meme usage:
Nut On, Apply Directly to the Nuts
Nut On, Apply Directly to the Nuts
Nut On, Apply Directly to the Nuts
without the theepeat, the meme is deficiently applied
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
for epic lulz instead of epic tragedies
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Nothing good at all. The Swiss and their nutty Muesli serials should be banned forever.
trolling terrorists to disrupt their operations could be so much fun, it would be like the Three Stooges bopping them on the noggins
Politics is Treachery, Religion is Brainwashing
That's nothing compared to the experience I had with MyCleanPC.
- which was designed by either the US or Israel to destroy Iranian centrifuges.
Trolling will just be mistaken for another enemy sect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law
Review the case of the early, independent, Massachusetts Colony and the Quakers. In Puritan Britain, after Charles I was executed and Cromwell's Roundheads took over, the Quakers and the Catholics were the Al Queda and Mujahadeen. Both groups being religiously different, and irrationally hated for being. The Quakers were persecuted in Massachusetts for being anti-puritan authority "heretics", as savagely as Muslims are persecuted today by the intolerant and hysterically inclined. Until Charles II revoked Massachusetts' charter, after Massachusetts authorities hanged four, taking the lives of the King's subjects without asking his permission to. Quakers kept returning to Massachusetts during the years of the persecution laws, provoking the escalations of the laws.
But after the laws were annulled and repealed, the Quakers somehow lost interest in going to Massachusetts to preach. Peace reigned until the Quakers took a new stand against authorities, becoming abollitionists. From then to when the laws of the land ordered abolitionists to be tolerated violence escalated up to and including organized murder engaged in by armies. Again, when tolerance was restored, peace ensued.
Do you see the connection? Go on the attack, you instigate escalation of violence by both sides; pull back to a little bit tolerant and violence abates. Both sides find better things to do. So if you want to carry your bigoted warfare into cyberspace, troll away like the rabid idiots trolls always are, whatever their excuse to be savage. But if you want to work for peace, learn something about the other side, recognize their virtues and encourage them in those by being tolerant.
Just think what this means. There will be good paying government jobs for people with reliable trolling skills... Hmm.
pull back to a little bit tolerant
Tolerant of what, exactly?
You might note that they don't suggest to troll Muslims in general, just al Qaeda and other jihadists. Are you suggesting that we should be tolerant of their ideology of violent spread of their religion?
You know, it strikes me that it's odd that these idiots have nothing better to do. Why not just post youtube videos talking about how they wear womens underwear on their heads? It would be infinitely more entertaining.
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Mujahadeen != Al Quaeda.
True, the Mujahadeen are just the people that went to war to protect Al Quaeda after AQ murdered civilians, including fellow Muslims, in violation of the Koran's teachings.
isn't the best way to prevent getting stung in the future
These sites are monitored by many governments. If you start posting to one of them, you will go onto a watch list as a terrorist suspect. Then, when you fly to another country or back to the USA, you will be seriously questioned. "Because the government told me so." will not work. I would not do it. Never trust any government.
There is obviously other motives behind this. Obviously it is not going to HELP at all!!! Think of solely as geopolitical pwnage! It is a nosense-pissing contest that just provokes the opposite party
-- SnappleX
I am all for anything that promotes the idea that any kind of political speech coming from US is poisonous propaganda, and should not be trusted.
Think of it as a weakened vaccine against more sophisticated forms of US propaganda.
Contrary to the popular belief, there indeed is no God.
Your hate of Islam isn't racist, just bigoted and ignorant. I bet you've never met a Muslim in your life.
Your hate of rapist isn't racist, just bigoted and ignorant. I bet you've never met a rape victim in your life.
Your hate of people isn't racist, just bigoted and ignorant. I bet you've never had a friend in your life.
There are racist assholes with mod points too.
well trolled, but I think the thrust of the article was to troll the _other_ way...
I'm a little disappointed in the State Department hasn't figured out that arguing on the internet is like playing Global Thermonuclear War in "War Games", the only way to win is not to play. That being said, I'm arguing my point on the internet, so I might as well submit myself for an Irony award this year.
That's it, let's pit one group of amoral and antagonistic extremist virgins against another. Let's see what happens!
Or:
We've replaced the hardcore soldiers in this scenario with ineffectual internet nerds. Let's see if they notice.
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No.
Defeat Terrorists... One Troll At A Time!
Christians don't defend the actions of their extremists with "tu quoque".
Because a caustic application of wit .... will get you dead.
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Nice late response. Sad that I'm still checking responses to my troll this late in the game. ;-)