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New Reality Series: Be the Next Microsoft Employee

theodp writes "No, Steve Ballmer doesn't swap spit with contestants in a hot tub. Nor does he present a rose to each contestant he wishes to keep at the end of each episode. But the contestants in Microsoft's Be the Next Microsoft Employee web series, which is being billed as Top Chef for Geeks, do live together in a luxury waterfront home as they compete for the chance to interview for a job with the software giant. So, what's next from Microsoft? The Real Housewives of Medina?"

168 comments

  1. O, Hell No! I'm GETTIN that interview! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Any of you skinny bitches stands in my way better be ready for some hair pullin!!

    1. Re:O, Hell No! I'm GETTIN that interview! by binarylarry · · Score: 5, Funny

      So Mr. Anderson, you say you want to work for us. I only have one question:

      How well can you dodge chairs?

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    2. Re:O, Hell No! I'm GETTIN that interview! by rtfa-troll · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It doesn't matter how well he can dodge chairs; he just has to aim for a team where everybody else is worse at it because Microsoft operates is the type of nightmare employer which operates forced ranking. Also, being with the stupidest people is probably your best chance of getting someone intelligent to teach you something since only the suicidal would teach someone in their own team. Ideally you are looking for a team of stupid people with a recently changed, decent, intelligent manager.

      Having said that, the best thing about winning this would be the pleasure of being able to say "no thanks"

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    3. Re:O, Hell No! I'm GETTIN that interview! by StormReaver · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Having said that, the best thing about winning this would be the pleasure of being able to say "no thanks"

      I got that pleasure in 1999, when I got my degree. Microsoft called my house asking if I would be interested in interviewing, and I got to say, "No, I don't work for evil companies."

      The caller genuinely didn't understand why Microsoft is evil, so I got to tell her she needs to pay more attention. It was quite the pleasant experience. I wish more people could share the experience.

    4. Re:O, Hell No! I'm GETTIN that interview! by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 2

      Stack Ranking as entertainment.

      If people think that a career in Microsoft is a prize, then they are in for a surprise.

      "I see Microsoft as technology's answer to Sears," said Kurt Massey, a former senior marketing manager. "In the 40s, 50s, and 60s, Sears had it nailed. It was top-notch, but now it's just a barren wasteland. And that's Microsoft."

      Emulating "The Real World" and a "Reality TV" meme that peaked 5 years ago is indicative that Ballmer's Microsoft is still woefully clueless - on top of being bloated, cruel, ignorant and narcissistic.

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    5. Re:O, Hell No! I'm GETTIN that interview! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I learned a while ago never to work for anyone that uses color-coded ID badges. MS is corporate paternalism at its worst.

    6. Re:O, Hell No! I'm GETTIN that interview! by billcopc · · Score: 2

      Having said that, the best thing about winning this would be the pleasure of being able to say "no thanks"

      You almost made me want to move to the states and participate. Almost...

      And yes, I know full well how stack ranking destroys morale. I briefly worked at a company that used that system, got berated at my first review because I ranked near the bottom. The next month, I shot up to #1 with a huge lead over the next guy, and stayed there until they shuttered our regional office, a few years later. Sure, I was really good at what I did, but I had not changed the quality of my work, nor was I cheating in any way, I just figured out how the ranking system worked. Instead of logging big, logical chunks of work, I itemized everything into bite-sized pieces. Instead of showing one big fixed applied to multiple systems, they'd get logged as separate incidents. This stuffed the stats calculation, and pleased my ignorant managers because it looked like I was getting more done. Realistically, yeah I was probably in the top 10, but certainly not 3-4 times more "productive" than the next guy like the stats implied.

      When other employees asked how I could log 100 completions in a day, next to their 12, I'd simply offer a shy grin and a shrug; "I guess I just have a gift".

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    7. Re:O, Hell No! I'm GETTIN that interview! by Thundaaa+Struk · · Score: 3, Funny

      I hope this show fails....who wants to see grown up IT nerds arguing over whether Windows is better than Linux. Arguments over who stole my limited edition Han Solo figurine......fights breaking out when to many Red Bulls are consumed without a proper meal beforehand. Confessional video sessions that involve crying because they didn't lock their laptop when they went to take their asthma medication and someone went in and changed their background to Hello Kitty. The season ender would involve controversy when someones computers get hit by a zero day vulnerability because they didn't have to time to download 1.5GB of updates that Microsoft had recently pushed out on Patch Tuesday.

    8. Re:O, Hell No! I'm GETTIN that interview! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I got that pleasure in 1999, when I got my degree. Microsoft called my house asking if I would be interested in interviewing, and I got to say, "No, I don't work for evil companies."

      Yes, when we're all magically wealthy and don't need to worry about paying the mortgage or feeding ourselves and our families, I'm sure we'll all enjoy telling potential "evil" employers where they can shove their unwanted jobs!

      Seriously, though, if you won't work for "evil" companies, have you ever actually had a job? Almost all corporations are in someway "evil".

    9. Re:O, Hell No! I'm GETTIN that interview! by Urza9814 · · Score: 1

      There's plenty of decent employers out there. There's a reason I left things like 'Treasurer, Young Democratic Socialists' on my resume when I was at my college career fair -- if they didn't want to hire me for it, I didn't want to work for them. And you know what? When I got around to companies I actually would want to work for...those things helped. They cared about leadership experience more than they cared about what it was with. Now I'm consulting for a fortune 500, good salary, good benefits, good working conditions. And I believe they're thousands short of their hiring goals for this year, so there's plenty of room for others...

      There are two reasons people can't find jobs in IT -- either they put all their time and effort to try to land that job with Microsoft, Google, Intel...and never look anywhere else...or they live out in the middle of nowhere and refuse to relocate. There's a HUGE deficit of IT workers in this country (tens of thousands of unfilled vacancies every year) -- you have plenty of choice in who you work for.

    10. Re:O, Hell No! I'm GETTIN that interview! by rtfa-troll · · Score: 1

      I learned a while ago never to work for anyone that uses color-coded ID badges. MS is corporate paternalism at its worst.

      What the hell? Even on Google "Microsoft color-coded badges" pulls up nothing (with or without hyphen). Could someone please expand on this? What do the different colours mean?

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    11. Re:O, Hell No! I'm GETTIN that interview! by Locutus · · Score: 1

      but you can't say "no thanks" because the NDA you were forced to sign to be part of this game/PR stunt would state you must accept the position should you be picked. I might also say all your trackable movements, blinks, finger and hand waves belong as Microsoft IP and may be patented and they could be required to license them.

      LoB

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    12. Re:O, Hell No! I'm GETTIN that interview! by smooth+wombat · · Score: 2

      There's a HUGE deficit of IT workers in this country (tens of thousands of unfilled vacancies every year) -- you have plenty of choice in who you work for.

      No, you don't. Employers want IT workers who fit a very narrow field. Being someone who can go from dealing with Oracle to Microsoft to HP to SAP to [insert whomever] products is not what they are looking for. They want you to know Oracle, and that's it. They want you to know SAP, and that's it. They want you to know government contracting.

      They don't care that you worked in contracts for a Fortune 500 company for the last 5 years. If you don't have any experience in government contracting, they don't look at you.

      As to relocation, most employers are looking local. They don't want to have to deal with the hassle of someone moving their stuff to a new location, waiting for them to settle in and get acquainted with the area. In today's world, and I've asked this question during interviews, they want someone to drop in and go.

      Which is nigh impossible, but that's what they want.

      Employers can whine all they want about not being able to find people to fill jobs when the real issue is their own intransigence at hiring someone who isn't perfect, but close enough. With a real unemployment rate above 10%, to claim you can't find someone to fill a job is pathetic.

      All that said, is your company hiring? And where?

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    13. Re:O, Hell No! I'm GETTIN that interview! by Otter+Popinski · · Score: 1

      Orange badges are for contractors. Blue badges are for long term employees.

    14. Re:O, Hell No! I'm GETTIN that interview! by ChatHuant · · Score: 1

      The badges for full time employees, vendors and contractors have differently colored borders; look for "blue badge" here or here

    15. Re:O, Hell No! I'm GETTIN that interview! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like they dodged a bullet by not hiring you.

    16. Re:O, Hell No! I'm GETTIN that interview! by vidnet · · Score: 1

      Donald Trump isn't necessarily the next messiah, but The Apprentice was still an interesting and entertaining show.

      This could still be interesting, even if done for the wrong reasons.

    17. Re:O, Hell No! I'm GETTIN that interview! by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      "There's a HUGE deficit of IT workers in this country..."

      If there is (and I don't think there is as huge a deficit as you say), then there is a simple, workable, market-based answer for that: PAY THEM MORE MONEY.

      That's how "supply and demand" works: if there is a shortage of supply (and therefore a high demand), the goods you are short of (whether copper, peaches, or coders) cost more.

      It's simple. And it works.

    18. Re:O, Hell No! I'm GETTIN that interview! by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      So you work for them for 2 weeks, and then say, "Ehhh, I don't think I like it. No thanks." And walk out.

      If they made you sign a fixed-term contract, then they are bound to it too (which means they hardly ever do that).

    19. Re:O, Hell No! I'm GETTIN that interview! by Urza9814 · · Score: 1

      Tata Consultancy Services. They're definitely hiring, across the country (of the people recruited with me we had people going to clients in RI, NJ, TX, CA, OH, and I think a few other states.) They were going so far as to hire electrical engineers for software development positions...but then again, that was for recent college grads. Of the three people who just joined my client site though, one of three was a lateral hire who'd been working in automotive software development. This client is in the retail division. He got assigned as a business analyst. Everything I've seen indicates that they care a hell of a lot more about what you want to do and where you want to do it than what your actual experience is.

    20. Re:O, Hell No! I'm GETTIN that interview! by PTBarnum · · Score: 1

      Compared with which field is IT underpaid? Boosting salaries will only help if there are enough people who would be great developers but are currently choosing to work in other fields because IT doesn't pay well enough. I would think salary is a much better tool for poaching employees from other companies than for enticing qualified people into the field in the first place.

    21. Re:O, Hell No! I'm GETTIN that interview! by micheas · · Score: 1

      Well, if you dropped out of highschool, got a GED and went to work at the port of oakland as a laborer in ten years you could clear 100k after union dues.

      The average programmer takes home less than that. (The labors went on strike because the programmers working for the port were replacing laborers and getting paid half as much.)

      If you want to hear about how underpaid programmers are track down Jim Clark and ask him if he thinks programmers are adequately compensated.

    22. Re:O, Hell No! I'm GETTIN that interview! by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      "Boosting salaries will only help if there are enough people who would be great developers but are currently choosing to work in other fields because IT doesn't pay well enough."

      My point was that long-term, since free markets generally work over a period of at least several years, if you pay programmers well, then the field will attract more programmers.

      That is the way it works, with renewable commodities like people anyway. When there's a shortage, they are more valuable, so they get paid more. Higher pay attracts more people to the job. The market equalizes.

      The problem is that in recent years corporations have seemed to want quality people, but want to pay them shit wages. That just doesn't work, in the long run.

      And they have nobody to blame but themselves.

    23. Re:O, Hell No! I'm GETTIN that interview! by Alex+Belits · · Score: 1

      My point was that long-term, since free markets generally work over a period of at least several years, if you pay programmers well, then the field will attract more programmers.

      It did, in 80's and early, pre-dotcom 90's. So it attracted a huge number of charlatans and frauds who heard that they can get an easy, high-paying job writing stuff in Visual Basic. And then the whole software industry went to shit.

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    24. Re:O, Hell No! I'm GETTIN that interview! by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      "It did, in 80's and early, pre-dotcom 90's. So it attracted a huge number of charlatans and frauds who heard that they can get an easy, high-paying job writing stuff in Visual Basic. And then the whole software industry went to shit."

      I was around the whole time, and I don't see it that way at all. Visual Basic was a great (if pretty slow) platform for desktop apps. But it also made it easy to create sloppy, slapdash apps. That much I will give you.

      But there were also better tools, like Delphi, which kicked Visual Basic's ass in just about every measure. But of course you needed to know some OO in order to really take advantage of it. In other words, it was geared more toward the "real programmer".

      But the dot-com bust had NOTHING to do with programmers. It had to do with businesses that were riding the 'Net wave, with no coherent business plan or model. Some of the dot-com wave riders had excellent programmers working for them; but without a real business plan that didn't matter worth a damn.

    25. Re:O, Hell No! I'm GETTIN that interview! by nobaloney · · Score: 1

      Everything I've seen indicates that they care a hell of a lot more about what you want to do and where you want to do it than what your actual experience is.

      Let me understand this: you're recommending an India-based company which sends out unqualified analysts and consultants. Yeah, I suppose that would be a good job.

    26. Re:O, Hell No! I'm GETTIN that interview! by Urza9814 · · Score: 1

      98% on-time delivery, $10+ billion annual revenue, was still growing and giving raises here in the US even in the worst part of the recession, and while I can't mention some of our clients, they do include EA, HP, Cisco, Microsoft, and several other fortune 500s...so they must be doing something right.

      And I mean you do have to actually be capable of doing the job -- I'm not saying they're going to throw someone who's never seen a programming language straight into a developer position. But they train you, and they provide opportunities for you to train yourself. Get the certifications you need, they'll reimburse you, and then they'll put you where you want to be. It's not going to be easy for someone who's never seen object oriented programming to get that Java developer position, they might not start out there, but if you put a bit of effort into it you can get there.

    27. Re:O, Hell No! I'm GETTIN that interview! by nobaloney · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the clarification.

    28. Re:O, Hell No! I'm GETTIN that interview! by electrons_are_brave · · Score: 1

      Sounds great to me.

  2. And coming up next year by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Season two will be titled "Be the last Microsoft employee"

  3. For reals? by John+Wagger · · Score: 0

    Woohoo, for real? Woohoo. I can't believe this is true. I can be the next champion. I can be the next future maker. I can be the next Microsoft employee.

  4. Really??? by Peristaltic · · Score: 5, Funny

    They're going to live together in a luxury waterfront home as they compete for the chance to interview for Microsoft?

    I'd rather compete for a chance at North Korean citizenship.

    1. Re:Really??? by John+Wagger · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Unless you're from US or South Korea, North Korean citizenship is quite easy to obtain.

    2. Re:Really??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They're going to live together in a luxury waterfront home as they compete for the chance to interview for Microsoft?

      I'd rather compete for a chance at North Korean citizenship.

      At least in North Korea you aren't forced to use Windows phones ...

    3. Re:Really??? by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

      is healthcare included?

      #include "suresureifserious.jpg"

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    4. Re:Really??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      or electricity. or to eat.

    5. Re:Really??? by EdIII · · Score: 0

      I'd rather compete for a chance at North Korean citizenship.

      So you want to be on the Apple version of that reality show?

    6. Re:Really??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How to reverse a string? I'd probably use a hash map!

      No?.... well, I'll have some more shrimp scampi then.

    7. Re:Really??? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Oh man, I wish I had mod points... well done sir.

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    8. Re:Really??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      ... or to eat.

      That's the theme of the North Korean game show "Meal or No Meal".

    9. Re:Really??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Thank you, Sheldon.

    10. Re:Really??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also - it's just a shot an interview - that doesn't even mean they get a job or even an internship or something.

    11. Re:Really??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Opened an Incognito tab after I modded this up as funny just so I could tell you I just squirted beer through my nose! Well player, sir!

    12. Re:Really??? by dzelenka · · Score: 1

      They're going to live together in a luxury waterfront home as they compete for the chance to interview for Microsoft?

      I'd rather compete for a chance at North Korean citizenship.

      No, no, it's the loser who gets the interview!

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    13. Re:Really??? by FitForTheSun · · Score: 1

      I assume it's the loser who gets the job at Microsoft. I wonder what the winners get?

    14. Re:Really??? by steelfood · · Score: 2

      Or vagina.

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    15. Re:Really??? by mcneely.mike · · Score: 0

      It's still "Meal or no Meal" at this point as well! :)

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    16. Re:Really??? by Alex+Belits · · Score: 1

      Chairs, probably.

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    17. Re:Really??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nokia shares

  5. Or... by maxsthekat · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You could just go to a college career fair, like I did, put in your resume, interview, and get hired. There was really nothing magical about it-- just another interview. For what it's worth: they were a great college internship, too-- paid very well, and the work was fairly challenging.

    1. Re:Or... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I hear the hours are absolutely terrible for the internship though. What are they now compared to that?

    2. Re:Or... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      As long as I was around between core hours 10-4 and did my work, it was all good. It all depends on how flexible your manager is, like pretty much any other company. Some people in the company that I know get to go in around noon and leave at 8. They prefer it that way. Others left the office around 2 or 3 'cause they went in really early.

    3. Re:Or... by maxsthekat · · Score: 1

      My manager simply told me, "I don't care, as long as you get your work done", which is exactly what I did. Some days I did put in quite a few hours, but some days I also left very early. It all depended on what I needed to get done.

    4. Re:Or... by stuffeh · · Score: 1

      Most people I knew during undergrad tried to get a gig via the college career fair, but mostly no call backs. Internships were even more rare at the career fairs. I did go to get experience and practice talking to the people though.

  6. Spoiler alert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Episode 3 will feature the chair throwing contest, Episode 4 the run-around-the-stage-like-you-just-snorted-two-lines-of-coke, the final episode will have the remaining contestants try to convince the audience why they prefer the Metro interface on their 3-monitor setup over the regular desktop; the only rule is that they're not allowed to laugh.

    1. Re:Spoiler alert by TummyX · · Score: 2

      Don't forget...

      Sneaking into Apple HQ and steal the most ideas without getting caught.
      Most seem-less cover-up of system crash during an on-stage demo.
      Number of Word documents that can be written on a Microsoft Surface tablet before running out of battery life.

    2. Re:Spoiler alert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's a few other prizes that will be handed out: - He or she who accumulates the most faeces on their nasal organ by the end of the show will receive an additional certification as MVP - He or she who can blow the most smoke up both Sinofky's and Ballmer's ass gets to run a random phone company into the ground

      At Microsoft 'Agile' means 'being able to sustain in an environment with lethal airborne office furniture'

    3. Re:Spoiler alert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the finale will feature a contest of coding while drunk!

    4. Re:Spoiler alert by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      Developers, Developers!, DEVELOPERS!!

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  7. I'd rather by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'd rather dip my balls in honey and sit down naked on a nest of fire ants. Just sayin'.

    1. Re:I'd rather by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 1

      I think that's episode 4.

  8. Reminds me of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...Donald Trump. He did it, so why shouldn't Microsoft?

    1. Re:Reminds me of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because he's not Steve Jobs?

    2. Re:Reminds me of... by grub · · Score: 1


      Trump's winner gets to comb that luxurious hair. The Microsoft winner gets to use Sham-Wows on Ballmer's armpits.

      I'd pick Trump.

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    3. Re:Reminds me of... by jd2112 · · Score: 2

      This reminds me of the joke about "The Apprentice". The winner gets to work for Donald Trump for a year. The loosers have to work for two.

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    4. Re:Reminds me of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The loosers have to work for two.

      What about the tighters?

      Yes, I am mocking you.

    5. Re:Reminds me of... by russotto · · Score: 0

      The loosers have to work for two.

      Worse than that -- Omarosa, the designated villain from the first Apprentice, was still working for Trump 5 years later.

    6. Re:Reminds me of... by jd2112 · · Score: 1

      The loosers have to work for two.

      Worse than that -- Omarosa, the designated villain from the first Apprentice, was still working for Trump 5 years later.

      Some people seem to enjoy punishment.

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  9. interview for a job by cpu6502 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Whoop-tee-do. I could do that without having to compete in a reality series. Just send a flowery resume to land the interview.

    This would be more impressive if they were placed as Interns *inside* Microsoft, and competing to impress the boss to be hired permanently.

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    1. Re:interview for a job by jhol13 · · Score: 3, Informative

      I think the point is to get into the reality show. Seems that this alone is good enough for some, to become "famous".

      This would be most impressive if they were inside Microsoft competing to get out.

    2. Re:interview for a job by Hentes · · Score: 1

      Exactly, these guys have like 15-20 years of experience, and in theory were selected from hundreds of appliants. They could get the job on an interview anytime they wanted to. Now if the job was a top position or something very prestigious i could understand, but that's not the case. The show is just a thinly veiled advertisement with MS products placed in every corner of the screen.

    3. Re:interview for a job by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 1

      You don't even have to send a flowery resume. They're cold calling people on linked-in lately. Several times they have found me, I even went on the interview once, just for shits n giggles.

      All you have to do is look at the office environment to say "yeah, thanks, but no thanks, I'll try McDonalds"

      I've worked at several soulless companies before, I'm no stranger to cubicells, idiotic HR policies and the large amount of doublethink that is required to survive large company management. MS is the worst, you can't even make it through the interview without feeling it course through your veins. No way.

    4. Re:interview for a job by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I got $50 that says whoever is hired is from the "minority" race (ie: not Caucasian.)

    5. Re:interview for a job by billcopc · · Score: 2

      This would be most impressive if they went all Big Brother and featured a bunch of talentless bimbos trying to get famous by flashing their tits in the hot tub.

      Now, reread that sentence without thinking of Steve Ballmer.

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    6. Re:interview for a job by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      Do you use actual flowers on the resume? Seriously, I need to know.

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    7. Re:interview for a job by Alex+Belits · · Score: 1

      I disagree. My resume is very flowery, but Microsoft didn't dare to call me ;-)

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  10. Wow... what a lousy prize! by sglewis100 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You don't win money, or a job? You win the chance to interview?

    1. Re:Wow... what a lousy prize! by HarrySquatter · · Score: 4, Informative

      No, they get a job. The 'chance to interview' was made up by the submitter.

    2. Re:Wow... what a lousy prize! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess I got busted not reading the article. Glad Slashdot vets submissions so well.

  11. So unfair by Chemisor · · Score: 1

    When I interviewed at Microsoft, I spent most of the time in windowless cubicles. How come I didn't get to see this great waterfront villa? On the other hand, I got the job. Of these contestants, all but one will get nothing but a view of the waterfront. Maybe I got the better deal after all...

    1. Re:So unfair by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Windowless cubicle at Microsoft?

      That's too bad. I can't believe they make you run DOS!

    2. Re:So unfair by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A job in a big corporate and the dilbertesque life this means...hell I don't know if you really got a better deal. (I do live a dilbertesque life working for a small part of a big corporate...I'd like to become a carpenter or some other sort of artisan...)

    3. Re:So unfair by Hentes · · Score: 1

      I guess they couldn't fit all the lights and cameras in the basement.

    4. Re:So unfair by slew · · Score: 1

      Windowless cubicle at Microsoft?

      That's too bad. I can't believe they make you run DOS!

      Just be happy that they didn't make you run xenix... That command-line version of unix was so "good" that even though SCO bought it, they eventually threw it away ;^) :^p

  12. A chance to interview? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess the shortage of skilled labor isn't real after all, is it? Or does Microsoft win a chance to interview one candidate and the others get away?

  13. Ballmer fails again... by korgitser · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...has tried to make microsoft look sexy for how long? And how come he always tries to do it with stuff over a hundred years old. First he was selling Vista with Seinfeld. And now this. Reality TV must be older than ms-dos 6.0! Who even watches that crap anymore? Certainly not young programmers. This guy wouldn't know sexy if it hit him on the head with a chair. Face it, there is nothing cool about the legacy wintel platform and the company associated with it. Pack your bags and move along.

    And don't let me get started on the fact that nobody in their right mind would ever hire the kind of people who go on reality TV shows.

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    1. Re:Ballmer fails again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      " This guy wouldn't know sexy if it hit him on the head with a chair"

      Don't you mean..

      This guy wouldn't know sexy if it sat in his lap and gyrated

    2. Re:Ballmer fails again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you serious? Who even watches reality shows?! When's the last time you turned on your tv? Seems to me that reality shows make an unfortunately large amount of television programming. I don't think it would be there if it weren't being watched.

      The rest of your comment seems to be similarly devoid of logic. Because, yes, there is clearly a *type* of people who go on reality shows who are clearly idiots.

      idiot.

      sincerely, AC

    3. Re:Ballmer fails again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Were you a Jersey Shore extra or something?

    4. Re:Ballmer fails again... by Jon+Abbott · · Score: 1

      And then there was the public debut of Windows 95, where they used the song Start Me Up by the Rolling Stones... they conveniently omitted the part that said "You make a grown man cry."

    5. Re:Ballmer fails again... by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      My god that is so lame. I keep forgetting about it but /. keeps unearthing it.

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  14. be careful for what you wish for... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ...cause you'll almost certainly get it, in the worst possible way.

  15. Maybe the wrong response? by caffemacchiavelli · · Score: 2

    Honestly, I tried to watch the trailer and stay serious, but I was smiling the whole time, as if I was watching a new comedy show. After years of M$-spoofs, jokes and parodies, my brain seems to have associated a certain kind of expectation with watching Microsoft-related media that might not quite be the kind of reaction MS is looking for here.

    Still, I'll tune in and abuse my Pavlovian conditioning. Haha.

  16. Winners escape by vlm · · Score: 2, Funny

    LOL in this reality TV show the winners are the ones who escape.

    There was a cheesy "human hunting" reality TV show awhile back, where dudes in matrix style men in black suits chased contestants around and tried to catch them, it may be something like that. If you didn't get captured in 30 minutes by the MIB then you "won". It was pretty intensely FOX network style, all arguing and yelling instead of cooperating, probably because if the contestants cooperated like a US infantry squad they'd have easily wasted the MIB. I don't recall the name.

    The point of the reminisce is getting caught by guys in suits leads to a SERE like cubical environment?

    I would watch just to see poor editing, maybe a contestant pulls out a iphone or an android phone. That would be funny.

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    1. Re:Winners escape by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://science.discovery.com/tv/mantracker/

      nathan

    2. Re:Winners escape by vlm · · Score: 1

      Well that was new (seriously) I had my first chrome crash.

      No that's not it. The show I watched in the 00s was more urban, like amusement parks, or big cities like NYC, and not Canadian prairie.

      Also I literally mean "Men in black" as in dudes in suits on foot, not guy on horse like the promo pics I saw on wikipedia.

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  17. Cash For Flunkers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Would be a suitable show title.

  18. Great Discriminator! by TheSpoom · · Score: 1

    I know if I was a software company I'd want to select for the sort of people who would go on a reality TV show. Wait...

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  19. Fear Factor by PPH · · Score: 2

    How many bugs can you swallow?

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  20. wait, by miknix · · Score: 0

    WHAT?

  21. And the theme song is... by Howard+Beale · · Score: 3, Funny

    Steve, Steve
    Steve of the Ballmer,
    A guy who has no hair.
    (Ahhhhhhhh)
    Watch out for that chair.

    Steve, Steve
    Steve of the Ballmer,
    Lives a life that's free.
    (Ahhhhhhhh)
    Watch out for that chair.

    When he gets in a scrape,
    he makes his escape
    with the help of his friend,
    a guy named Bill.
    Then away he'll schlep
    on his elephant Shep
    While Fella and Ursula
    Stay in step.

    Well....Steve, Steve
    Steve of the Ballmer,
    Friend to you and me.

    Watch out for that chair.

  22. Making it harder to get a decent job. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just what we need, companies demanding you jump through more and more hoops for the priviledge of maybe possibly being considered for a job that might open up some time in the near future.

    If they were guaranteed a job, it would be one thing, but they are only playing for the INTERVIEW. Not even Apple is that idiotic when it comes to their own god-like status.

    1. Re:Making it harder to get a decent job. by HarrySquatter · · Score: 1

      No, they get a job. theodp wrote that nonsense based on not actually reading the source he linked and from being unable to understand plain English.

  23. First place prize is a one-year contract by thrillseeker · · Score: 1

    Second place prize is a two-year contract ...

  24. Rules of the game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Each week one inhabitant will get voted out, after which he or she can choose a career path with a future, until there's only one person left.

    This last person has to go and work for Microsoft.

    Microsoft: Once you give up on your dreams and ideologies, we're not so bad.

    1. Re:Rules of the game by cashman73 · · Score: 1

      The consolation prize for the contestants that don't make it is a contract with Google. After, of course, being publicly humiliated by Steve Ballmer by having him throw a chair at you.

    2. Re:Rules of the game by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      Another alternative is to get hired into Microsoft in hopes of goading Ballmer into throwing a chair at you. Then you can sue for assault and battery. Its a lose-win situation.

      [Side note: How come the spell checker suggests "Ballgirl" for Ballmer? Damn Chrome.]

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      I object to power without constructive purpose. --Spock
    3. Re:Rules of the game by Alex+Belits · · Score: 1

      How come the spell checker suggests "Ballgirl" for Ballmer? Damn Chrome.

      I think, it's something from /d/...

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  25. Quick, get the participants under contract! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...before they figure out it's the companies that are competing for the software development employees in many places right now.

  26. TV by Westwood0720 · · Score: 1

    So glad I don't own a television.

    1. Re:TV by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Yes, not seeing this is only second to feeling superior by going out of your way to tell people you don't own a TV.
      I'll ignore the fact that you are reading this on a TV right now.

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    2. Re:TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can browse on a TV now?

      I'll try that next time my printer runs out of paper.

    3. Re:TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, you don't own a television?

      [WilderWonka.jpg]

      So tell me what else you're too evolved to own.

    4. Re:TV by HarrySquatter · · Score: 1

      Yes, yes. The Onion already wrote an article about you 12 years ago.

    5. Re:TV by Westwood0720 · · Score: 1

      Oh, you don't own a television?

      [WilderWonka.jpg]

      So tell me what else you're too evolved to own.

      Facebook Page
      Smartphone
      Credit Card
      Car Payment
      Debt
      I find "reality shows" and ads that fill the screen the most moronic form of entertainment. I frankly don't care to watch people hocking their crap at me or that you had tuna salad for lunch last night. Really. I don't. Some of the crap that is out there is really beyond my understanding.

    6. Re:TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Somehow, I don't think that typing a few words qualifies as going out of his way, but whatevers. I'm willing to bet that if he said "that's why I'm glad I don't own M$ software" he would gotten "insightful". At worst, clone would have said anything. I'm not discourging the practice, I don't care either way. I just thought it was a bizzare observation.

    7. Re:TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And therefore you most clearly know the benefits and downfalls of each of those, since you own none of them (not that you "own" debt or car payments, but for the others you get the idea).

      And maybe some of that crap out there is beyond your understanding because you're sheltering yourself from society.

      Yeah, have fun feeling smug as hell. You were avoiding facebook and smartphones before it was cool after all, you hipster you.

      Not that I disagree with the sentiment that being debt free is awesome and most crap on TV is crap... but don't be so goddamn smug about it. One of these days you'll say that to the wrong person in real life and find yourself eating curb. Or one can hope, anyway.

    8. Re:TV by Westwood0720 · · Score: 1

      And therefore you most clearly know the benefits and downfalls of each of those, since you own none of them (not that you "own" debt or car payments, but for the others you get the idea).

      And maybe some of that crap out there is beyond your understanding because you're sheltering yourself from society.

      Yeah, have fun feeling smug as hell. You were avoiding facebook and smartphones before it was cool after all, you hipster you.

      Not that I disagree with the sentiment that being debt free is awesome and most crap on TV is crap... but don't be so goddamn smug about it. One of these days you'll say that to the wrong person in real life and find yourself eating curb. Or one can hope, anyway.

      I know the benefits and downfalls, because every week when I go to the bar to hang out with friends and shoot pool, I get lectured on who hates who because what they posted on Facebook. Majority of it is small town bullshit. I get to here from the ladies at work how they get spammed with things to "Like" all over their walls.

      Sheltering myself from society? I'm surrounded by it. My job has me dealing with millions of dollars a day and 1000s of people. My phone rings off the hook and I have a constant flow of people in. This segment that I'm typing now has taken me about 45m in between people coming in.

      I wouldn't say I've been avoiding Facebook, moreso than I didn't see the point in it. You want to contact me? Call me on my "oldschool" flip phone. Or, swing on by. There's beer in the fridge and steaks in the freezer.

      And "eating" the curb because I feel as though Facebook and Smartphones are about as useful to me as Anne Frank's drumset? I'd really like to see that happen.

    9. Re:TV by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      Here we go with this fucking shit again. STFU docuhebag. Just let the statement pass. This just makes you TV watchers look bad when YOU flip a wig every time someone mentions they don't watch TV. This is 2012 after all, not 1972. There is other shit to do besides fucking wasting your life on Pavlovian responses to regularly scheduled programming.

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    10. Re:TV by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      You forgot the obligatory pictures of toddlers that get posted because.....drum fucking roll here........they got fudge-cicle around their mouth! FTW! YEAH! Give me some more of that shit.

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  27. "A shot at finding out," according to Mcrosoft by theodp · · Score: 1

    Be the Next Microsoft Employee: "Have you ever wondered what it would be like to work at Microsoft? One of these contestants will have a shot at finding out. Who will be the next Microsoft employee?" IIRC, the video also indicated that this was a shot at, not a guarantee of, a job.

    1. Re:"A shot at finding out," according to Mcrosoft by HarrySquatter · · Score: 1

      No, they get the job. Otherwise it would be called 'Be the Next Microsoft Interviewee'. The contest is>/i> the interview.

    2. Re:"A shot at finding out," according to Mcrosoft by HarrySquatter · · Score: 1

      What's even mre funny is you didn't even read your own source link which says quite clearly:

      And yes, the person who prevails does win a job at Microsoft.

    3. Re:"A shot at finding out," according to Mcrosoft by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      And yes, the person who prevails does win a job at Microsoft.

      That job may be janitor... but still.

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    4. Re:"A shot at finding out," according to Mcrosoft by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      ...the person who prevails does win a job...

      ...

      That has to be one of the most depressing unintentional social commentaries I've ever heard...

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    5. Re:"A shot at finding out," according to Mcrosoft by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      You know what? I wasn't at all attracted to the notion of working at Microsoft until you mentioned the janitor position. Now that sounds like fun!

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      I object to power without constructive purpose. --Spock
  28. Stack Ranking by Dartz-IRL · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Contestants rate each other on tasks, filling mandatory slots from most valuable to least valuable, with the bottom 10% being fired Backstabbing and politcking ensue between the contestants as they fight tooth and nail not to be dumped down the bottom, while forgetting entirely about the task at hand and just half-assing it finished.

    Perfectly preparing them for the working environment at MS...

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    So there I was, scribbling down some notes off the PC screen by hand, when I reached for the keyboard and Ctrl-S'd.
    1. Re:Stack Ranking by BanHammor · · Score: 1

      Works for Valve, apparently.

  29. I'd do it, if by geekoid · · Score: 1

    that job was CEO.

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    1. Re:I'd do it, if by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      My first task as the new CEO: Replace everyone's laptops with MacBook Airs!

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    2. Re:I'd do it, if by Bigby · · Score: 1

      That brings up a good points. Is this just a "job"? Or is it a position where you actually get to be inventive?

  30. to sum the posts thus far... by dAzED1 · · Score: 2
    This is beyond a silly idea for a show. "Top Chef for Geeks" only works as an analogy if Top Chef (which I don't watch, so...) represents to chefs something that was always of questionable merit, hotly debated in the past, and is now on a rapid and obvious decline from which there most likely will not be a recovery. What talent anywhere is still dreaming of a job at Microsoft?

    As old as it is, they'd still have a more popular show if they had a competition to become a developer at Blizzard for World of Warcraft...at least some people still enjoy that software...

    1. Re:to sum the posts thus far... by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

      Besides, Top Chef For Geeks was Good Eats. Alton Brown regularly explained the science behind cooking.

    2. Re:to sum the posts thus far... by billcopc · · Score: 1

      You're right.

      Now if the reality show was to land a job at Blizzard for Diablo 3, all they'd get are a bunch of indians from elance.

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    3. Re:to sum the posts thus far... by randyleepublic · · Score: 1

      I dream of a job at Microsoft. Of course the only two job I'd accept is CEO. Then I'd show those bitches how an Operating System is supposed to work! Though there'd be a hell of a depression in Washington due to all the fired motherfuckers. I bet you this: 5 years after I started, people would LOVE Microsoft.

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  31. "Reality" tv show is the bane of intelligence. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wish I could travel back in time and kill who ever came up with "reality" shows.

    Besides, microsoft is just a company. You can apply for a job anytime you want without the hassle of a forceibly faked webseries and embarass yourself infront of millions. While that playstation game testers show was garbage I have no doubt it will be better than this shit is sure to be.

  32. huh? by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

    Wait, I thought that was Walking Dead?

    Bah ha ha ha ha ha! Ballmer! Ha ha ha ha!

  33. webisodes by ethanms · · Score: 1

    sounds like something that will be shown in small bits and clips as part of mainstream media, and maybe played in full lengths at career fairs, MS HQ during interfests, etc...

    There is no way we're going to watch programmers on mainstream TV, there is just nothing interesting about it to average people, and those who do it for a living will do nothing but be aggravated by it.

  34. Episode 6: The H1B1 Arrives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can see it now, the last episode before the final selection, a new contestant arrives, fresh green card in hand. The other contestants are obviously miffed because he didn't jump through all the hoops the others did. Ends with Steve Balmer giving him a rose and saying "I like you cause you're cheap." Rest of the contestants walk out muttering: "That's a marriage that will never work, he's here for all the wrong reasons..."

    Seriously, though IT / SWE / Developer hiring seems so much like a game show already. When I first saw this I thought it was a farce. If there is a shortage of qualified people, how do / can you hold a competition?

  35. IP Theft Alert! by dschmit1 · · Score: 1
  36. Eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shouldn't reality show contestants be competing for something people want?

    Oh, I get it, this is like the software world's Flavor of Love.

  37. TV is the drug of the nation by bussdriver · · Score: 1

    Saying you do not own a TV is like saying you are drug free. Not a big deal among people who are not addicts but among addicts it does have a smug feeling to it when rubbing it in their faces - it also has a similar appearance to being a jerk.

    It is not as bad as informing everybody you are a Christian.

    1. Re:TV is the drug of the nation by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      Thank you, someone else brought up the opiate addiction thing. I was too lazy to get into it.

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    2. Re:TV is the drug of the nation by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      I don't watch TV programming (cable) but I do own a large modern LCD TV. One in which I control the programming.

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  38. Desperate and Lame by CyberLife · · Score: 1

    ... I'm speaking of Microsoft

  39. Read source link, but it's contradicted by MS by theodp · · Score: 1

    Be the Next Microsoft Employee (YouTube): "From a field of thousands, 6 contestants will battle it out for an opportunity to interview to be the next Microsoft employee."

  40. The contestants will be... by Cito · · Score: 0

    All from India as they compete for this outsourced job.

    Like Bill Hicks would say "Americans will sit on their fat lazy asses watching 'American Gladiators' or this show and sit their and drool" while the economy and world crumbles around them cause they won't wake up and stop it.

    This is what American Jobs have become... reality tv show?!?

    While REAL jobs are moved overseas to India or outsourced to Mexico or South America

    What is even sicker is our government programs are also outsourced. My mother is disabled and I had to call to help her get some info on some upcoming changes to her Medicare which is federal program. First answer was thick Indian accent after losing temper and requesting supervisor I get transferred and on hold for nearly 10 minutes before a scratchy connection was made and they answered in spanish with thick spanish accent I said I do not speak spanish they just sat quiet on phone for nearly 1 minute before transferring me again back to an Indian.

    I hung up, told my mother she's fucked for most part, but next day drove, 2 hours to a medicare office and had to sit there for 3 hours before finally getting issue resolved in less than 5 mins.

    IT jobs are worse, everything is outsourced. And when I did work for an internet provider down in Orlando the callcenters were all in India with Convergys. So when problems were escalated to netops no one in my department couldn understand the broken english on the tickets. So customers would be out for hours or sometimes days while we many times had to guess at the problem and troubleshoot the entire network relying on Netsaint (now called nagios) back in the day instead of our callcenters cause none of us could understand what the fuckers were saying or writing.

  41. Pft. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds like they think they have the luxury only need to pick the employees that they want, as if there aren't any other jobs around. I already got headhunted by *them*, over a decade ago. The salary sounded attractive, but I'd have had to move, which would effectively have meant give up on my dreams for them. I turned them down. *And* I'm currently earning more than they offered back then.

  42. Why? by Wee · · Score: 1

    Why the hell would any sane person want to work at Microsoft? Their corporate culture is absolutely terrible, and the company's ethics on the whole are intolerable.

    Also, you might have to talk to Steve Ballmer. The thought makes me wince.

    -B

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  43. Real World: Redmond, Washington! by SNAPPLEX · · Score: 1

    LOL. It may seem kind of strange, and maybe a little dramatic in the eyes of the typical technology enthusiast but I like what Microsoft is doing.... As an X-ComputerCoder I think it is great to show people that there is more out there than just computer technology! Expand their horizons in what they can do with THEIR life.. When you work for a large coorporation you seem so unvaluable, you feel like a number among your co-workers. This is a great way to give people the sense of being somebody unique. Theres a lot more to life than work/computer technology. :./ -- SnappleX

  44. hmmm, apparently I wrote the Bible also... by Thud457 · · Score: 1

    I wish I could travel back in time and kill who ever came up with "reality" shows.

    I wish I could travel back in time and kill whoever invented time machines.

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    the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

  45. Love the Microsoft Part by elabs · · Score: 1

    I hope they don't have a lot of drama. Just get me to the code.

  46. Stack ranking is pretty common in big companies... by gosand · · Score: 1

    It's happened with all the big companies I've worked for. It does suck. It sucked for me because I had hand-picked my team and built it up. So I effectively argued that I didn't have any weak memebers, and I won that argument. The idea is that there should be a percentage OVERALL that is stacked. And the idea isn't that you just identify those who are weaker to eliminate them, the idea is to then train those people. But it's a paradox, because at some point (in theory) you won't have any bottom percenters.

    In the end, it's a bad management tool. Nobody hardly ever used it like that though.

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  47. z-index by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Great, one of them can be the next Microsoft employee that doesn't understand that the z-index makes their menus appear behind this:

    "One shot. All the glory.

    Have you ever wondered what it would be like to work at Microsoft? One of these contestants will have a shot at finding out. Who will be the next Microsoft employee?"

  48. The .NET Challenge by codepunk · · Score: 1

    For this challenge you can gain immunity by building a .net application Steve would be proud of.

    Feel free to use any .net language for this challenge since they are all just VB with a different syntax.

    In the end we will grade your shiny new version of notepad and declare the winner which will gain immunity in the next round.

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    Got Code?
    1. Re:The .NET Challenge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm no huge fan of .NET, but I've also developed with it since C# was in beta. I also have spent lots of time with other languages ranging from various assemblers to C to C++ to Lisp to Smalltalk, and so on.

      I can tell you that .NET languages are almost universally well-designed, especially when compared to their more recent peers such as Java and other JVM languages. C# reads nothing at all like VB and closer to Java or even C++. F# reads nothing like C# unless you are doing it wrong, and reads more like various functional languages it's based off. VB.net doesn't even read that much like VB as it is far more object oriented.

      The other languages are largely irrelevant, but considering there are implementations of Ruby, Python, and various functional or hybrid functional languages, I am not sure you are right. Then you also have IL you can write in that everything gets compiled down to, and on top of that you can integrate with external languages such as C++.

      So your comment may have been an attempt to be funny, only it just makes you look ignorant.

  49. Re:Stack ranking is pretty common in big companies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yup, I too have seen this firsthand. I read the article and it resonated - at several reviews the thing pointed out to work on was increasing visibility with other managers. This year I've been trying to avoid working on a project which is basically depending on me to get anywhere, because it was made clear that time spent on anything other than a few other initiatives is basically worthless as far as a rating goes. So, I am a smart guy and do what the boss tells me (with the paycheck, not their mouth) to do. In years where I've done this I've gotten the best ratings. I've seen lots of conscientious workers let go because they just did what they were told.

    If a project fails it isn't good for the company, but the company isn't paying me to make the company succeed - it is paying me to make a certain person happy. I'd appeal to the shareholders to vote in directors who would fix things, but if the shareholders were smart they wouldn't hold shares.

  50. It's Going To Be Just Like This by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cX4t5-YpHQ

    You know it is.

  51. I understand the situation by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

    But what does the winner get?

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  52. *gag* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh please... I did work for Microsoft. Now I use open source technologies and I'm much, much happier.

  53. Developers at MS are smart. Some PMs are crappy. by npetrov · · Score: 1

    I worked there in 1998 as an intern. Had many issues with management.

    Yet, inspite of all the problems, it is a REALLY GREAT PLACE TO WORK. From a developer's perspective, you meet extremely smart people. And their suggestions potentially influence your development many years after.

    The best thing that I saw was that Microsoft really values smart people and they will keep them at any cost not letting them leave. Very few companies do that. Most today's companies are just concerned with the rate per hour and all this crap which results in insane turnover and crappy productivity. Microsoft actually gives generous raises to those who really produce. And employee turnover in 90's was much lower than any other company.

    The werst problem that seemed at the time was an insanely redundant chain of PMs. One would be responsible for the product, another for graphics, another for future localization and who knows what. The guy responsible for UI layout (in my particular case) was there for at least 10 years. Paid a lot and design stuff completely inconsistent with any other Microsoft product. Every time I would mention multiple examples from the most popular products like Windows itself or Office, I would be told that it's not my job. Yet his "design" looked like sh*t. Another really smart developer (who eventually became architect and evangeliest) told me he had the same issues with him. That PM always "worked from home" and never showed up.

    It is very likely that such PMs were the ones who brought all this mess to the company that we see now. Yet, purely from software development perspective and learning from co-workers it was an amazing place.

  54. SQL DBA? I thought it was about programmers by LostMyBeaver · · Score: 1

    Seriously... SQL and DBA guys grow on trees... I don't see why Microsoft doesn't just raid the high schools and make them instead o hiring them with years of experience.

  55. Episode 1 Summary by belgianguy · · Score: 1

    Mayhem abound when it is discovered someone ate through the whole Cheetos supply for the week. Meanwhile, Bob faces eviction after being caught on the toilet trying to install Open Source software. Luke and Igor get into an argument over Igor's B.O., Igor says it's a skin disease while Luke claims it's caused by avoiding contact with water and soap. Jim and Lucy get into a fight when Jim ragequits and stomps out of the room after she uttered a slur doubting his sexual preference in his direction. Problems escalate when Jim won't come out. Hours later, Jim's mom gets called over the PA system and she can finally persuade him to come out, promising to have his favorite Star Wars pillow delivered to the house. Shocking revelations by the nightcam: Bob gets caught with Lucy in an attempt to use SQL injection. The next morning, the contestants face off in a artisan challenge, they are handed polishers and copies of Windows 8. Ultimately, it's quite a photo-finish, as all contestants agree that these polishers have little effect on the product, except for making it shiny but still utterly unusable. Lucy wins the challenge and receives the Floating Chair token, allowing her to duck one future challenge. Check in for more next Tuesday!

  56. The contestants' first challenge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is to fold an origami swan with Nokia shares.

  57. The next employee? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So is there a hiring freeze until the show ends?

  58. Silliness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are we to be reduced to competing for a job based on our entertainment value?

    Are their bonus points on our resume if we sing and dance?

    In health care, we had a saying "circling the drain". It generally meant there was no hope, just wait for the end.

  59. Rip off by Dabido · · Score: 1

    This is just a rip off of Hunger Games and Battle Royale, only with geeks as they fight to the death not to be forced to join Microsoft!

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    Sure enough, the cow costume was hanging up next to the superhero outfit and sailors uniform. (S,Spud)