---".. and produces music at home, I can tell you straight up that *all* music, whether its terribly immoral gangsta rap takes talent."
I agree with you on that. The problem is all the stuff you hear in "gangsta rap". Either it's drug trades or blowing heads off of cops (and gloating over it). It does take talent to mix it all together, but I stay away from it cause of the trash.
---"Some takes more than others (you seem to pick up on the fact that jazz is quite difficult, which is true).. but rap easily takes more talent than most rock heard on the radio these days."
I played in a local jazz band fro a year and a half, so yes. I do speak from experience. I also play in a conert band locally too. Saying that rock takes less talent than rap is entirely true. All you need for a rock band is a set player, bassist, and a guitar. Add X7dim (X falls within 4'ths) chords labourisly. There's a new rock album.
---"Its an extremely unappreciated art, but as a classically trained musician who listens mostly to jazz and rap, rap is *not* easy."
I think most of the gansta rap well.. sucks, but look at the roots: Jamican Steel drum chants. I had the oppurnitunity to listen to a concert of Jamicans playing. There's a well defined rythym and there's a cool groove along with talking and such. If you call that rap, I love that stuff.
---"For proof, refer to every rap you've ever heard in a commercial or promotional campaign. It's a wholesomely misunderstood style, and most media houses producing music for campaigns have *very* difficult times reproducing the sound of authentic, good rap. Its like saying that playing the drums is easy; sure, hitting a drum is easy,..."
I never said that. I tried drums. Never liked it one bit, but I respect those who can do a.5 minute set solo. ALong with the rythym in rap, whoever does that does indeed have talent. Course I am a clarinet amd sax player ^_^
---"but producing a sound with drums that people want to listen to for 5 minutes in a row is not easy, and takes time, talent, dedication, and hard work. Factor in the fact that all music must relate to a social sound and make reference to its place in the musical tapestry of a culture (ie, rock is awesome in Flynt, Michigain, but not awesome in India.. its all about referencing what people already listen to and want to hear), and you end up with the fact that nearly any musician who wants to make it must have a very deep and ingrained knowledge of what people want to hear and how to make that sound."
Tis also the same reason why scat sounds cool. It has a push to the next syllable (just like rap) but also has to have similar chordal structures found within the charts. I've heard a few 48 bar scat solos. They have a mix of rap and jazz.
---There are plenty of positive, concious rappers out there who do not condone the "thug life". But the CD buying public drives the demand for the thug life.. thank the protected coddled white masses in the 'burbs and the execs who market the image.
To me, positive rappers is an oxymoron. I think of Eminem, and other trash. I'm absolutely sure there's non-riaa rappers, but you just don't see them in a Sam Goody (or walmart, or...).
What I found funny was when the Daily Show (comedy central) did a story on crime prevention brought to you by Ice-T. He said how good policemen and women are. The comedy show then proceeds to show the music video "Kop Killa" by Ice-T. When I say Rap, everybody I know thinks of Gangsta Rap.
YOu could consider Jazz Scat to be a form of rap, but that takes talent. Just like the rest of jazz, if it doesnt have that swing (and groove), it just isn't jazz.
Oh come on... I think we know why rap stas spend money out the wazoo. It's also the same reasom soo many of them are "capped". Drug trades, bad deals, and gang rivalries.
If they were _just_rappers, they have nothing to worry about. Still, why do soo many of them have bullet proof cars.
I do agree with you about XSane being better than most other scanning program GUI's, still having 2 solutions is better than only 1. If you look at WIndows, there's a clone of a clone of a clone for programs. They may be mainly commercial, but there's a big choice. The more "stuff" (wether that be good or garbage) we have for Linux, the better.
Still on the part with the GPL violation.. What exactly did they snatch that pissed off the FSF? They do seem quite eager to help fix the problem, but this isn't nearly as bad as: Xvid routine ripoffs, or the VirtualDub fiasco. Avery Lee almost gave up on creating/maintaining VirtualDub cause of that.
WHat did Epson do? CP code from sane/XSane? Oh well.
I'd love to obsolete (anything)TML for a xanadu structure. The internet would be more useful, in that all sites would be pay sites. It would be against your decision only to leach, but if you give also, then it costs nothing. The cool thing is that you pay for your demand for content. Not more or less.
I'm seeing tons of people complaining how badly this site got slashdotted. I also remember from the last time, when it did too. However, after reading a few articles about "slashdotted" solutions, I clicked the link, and here it is...
I could see what people are trying to mirror. I remember an article bitching about squid servers in ISP's, but I'm happy if I can get my stuff.
Actually, I have a nine year old sister who sometimes uses the term. She probably doesn't know the origin of the term, or cares.
Still, regarding the socialism comment..
I see it a bit more than a side-effect. In meat-space, there's only soo much resources to go around, so a type of rationing has to be created (the basis of money). In this situation, the cost is the materials, the machinery, the buildings, and the development. That's a big bottom line
However, in cyber-space, once you create "something", it can be duplicated at little to no cost. Because of the same cost on all subsequent copies, it's effively worth the basic cost of development..
A type of socialism in coding had to happen sometime. Except in this type of socialism, there's nobody forcing you to make more code. It's all donation. Also, once you write it, others can use your older work and improve on it. After all, storage is cheap enough to disregard.
Yes, but in the times he wrote (said) it, giving things free was unheard of. It's true that robber barons gave money after making their fortunes.
For an example, what about MP3 (and perhaps OGG). Fraunhofer patented the psychoacoustic encoding technique. Even though the idea is "free" and there is free software, they must still pay.75$ US for each copy (as of the slashdot article procaiming yesterday).
In these days of "Free" software, It's a situation of capitalism interfreing with a sort of un-enforced socialism. It somewhat shows how broken our patent system is (in the way that in considers everybody hard-core capitalist).
Everybody's busy screaming OGG saying "death to MP3". Well, OGG isn't an answer at all. It plays nice on Mac's, X86, and sun squipment. That aint the problem. MP3's have 2 different decoders. The first one is a Floating point decoder. The second is integer decoder, which is used in many (I believe all...prove me wrong) MP3 players. OGG does NOT have a integer decoder.
Here's what's wrong with OGG, and perhaps how you can make it better:
1: No integer decoder (eg: no handheld support) 2: The Vorbis standard has NOT been solidified yet. So any developments made now would be useless 3: Patent issue: If I am correct Fraunhofer's patents are on the frequency, balancing, and general psycho-(hearing) relationships. MP3 just trims what people aren't supposed to hear. OGG uses the similar formulas too, so it could be "in violation". In my opinion, it's not a big deal (offshore server with anonymizing developer emails).
As a last note, FLAC is a great codec, however it's loseless. It's bigger, but you dont lose anything. It's also open-source and actually in 1 piece of industrial audio hardware.
Near Cincinnati's river (Ohio, right?) there was a pirate station back in the 70's. They did a lot of jazz, concertals, scat.. anything "cool". I'm not sure what kind of wattage they had, but the guy did it from on top a barge;-) He didnt interfere with signals, and he didn't stay in 1 place. To my knowledge, he was never caught.
Still, It'd be funny if somebody bought a 1 MW FM transmitter (and huge power source) and broadcast it at 11 nautical miles from US coast. From what I understand about interational waters rules, 11 miles is out of range of jurisdiction. It'll piss 'em off though..
Remember, we're against all this homogenous crap on radio stations. Now who wants to _PAY_for it? The best agreement is to go directly to artists and ask if they can use, roalty-free songs, like ones found at mp3.com .
So what? This is just a comp sci experiment in cellular growth. All it is is JUST BITS. What I was interested in was the much earlier slashdot article that mentioned an evolving FPGA. After N iterations, it was re-creating itself in techniques mostly unknown to electricl engineers.
Point in fact: the evolving chips aren't a big step. To an EE, you test for all possibilites and capture all errors (look at firmware in cars). An evolving chip probably has errors here and there (so EE's aren't going to be put out of business). What the chip DID show is there are new and more potent techniques for chip creation. Bigger repirotoire and more testing.
They way they should have gone was 1: Hack whatever.army.mil 2: Post anonomously to slashdot regarding army's computer problems. 3: Request "large_num" security agreement, else will release to usenet, BugTrac, Slashdot, many newspapers, magazines.... 4: Release anyways.
"But this issue has been brought up before on slashdot. "last time I looked China wasn't the 51st state" Then why should we have a right to dump our waste there. Not In My Back Yard! But to make it worse... when the kids play in the dump you think they deserve it."
>>Which versions? Are you using standard (good) hardware or POS rummage stuffs?
>Yes, but Windows was fast on the bad hardware too
I'll give you that one. Linux seems to find all those nasty hardware fuckups (on the bad hardware expessially)
>>I'm using 172 MB of memory (with all the nicieties ON). And about that "Monolithic kernel crap"..
>Even when I am multitasking on windows I don't use 172 MB of RAM, one of the major advantages of Monolithic systems is that they are "faster and use less RAM" so Linux even with that advantage is still lacking. Microkernel designs are much more robust and stable, in windows, close everything out, then go to task manager and kill explorer.exe, then go the apps tab and select a new task and run explorer again. Only on a microkernel can this be done and have the system remain stable.
You mentioned something about mono kernals that doesnt quite fit Linux. Well, you can have a monolithic kernel with Linux... however about that ram usage. Linux buffers stuff into ram until it "needs" to write it. As an example (what runs me away from using Linux on public computers) is the floppy example. Take a 1 MB file and a clear floppy (Fat 16, right). Now mount the floppy in Linux and cp the file over to it. It "somehow" got done writing to it in less than a second (expessially when floppy write is about 8 KB/s). Instead the Linux kernnel cached the floppy in memory, so when you umount it, it does the rest of the writing. I see a good and bad points about this system...
Good: YOU can cp a movie file (given enough ram) and edit iot on the other location. It's actually in memory, so your speed is greatly increased in editing. However, It's sort of a hack doing it that way, as if the computer fcrashes, you've lost your edit.
Bad: Floppy example in a public setting. Some user makes a document and saves to a disk. They've been taught (by Windows) whgen green light is off, it's ok to remove disk. They now have lost all of the document. I could see a possible project in the floppy, or zip driver to make them more.. well idiot friendly. In the current way, though they work, but suck for regular users.
>>modprobe idiot_slashdot_poster IQ=1
>Drivers are something I forgot to cover, again much easier write and install on a microkernel system, thanks.
True, so are the device lists in/dev . It's much easier to access/dev/dsp rather than to go through some Windows DLL for sound.
>>How so? Windows freezes much more on me. Even hangs during INSTALL. I've never seen Linux hang like that.
>I think this is up for debate only by the people that do not use Linux. I've used multiple versions of multiple distro, 2K and XP crash _much_ less (if ever). I am not making this up.
Well, I've used all common versions of WIndows (3.1 up to Win2k) and many distro's of Linux. Usually the Win9x versions would hang on teh install in about a 1/4 chance. The NT versions are much better at that in about a 1/100 chance of hanging on install. Under standard installs (no apps) WIndows is very stable (both WinNT and Win9X). It's only when you start actually using the system, does it start to degrade. However, I'm guesssing that the half-life of a Windows installation is much less than the half-life of a Linux installation.
With Linux, I've used Slackware, debian, Redhat, SuSE, and Mandrake. I dont like the way SuSE handles configurations in some sort of config DB. It likes to crap out Autoconf on many source.tar.gz's. RedHat is nice only if you like Gnome (I prefer KDE/WMaker). Debian users are usally too uppity to even glance at you if they're problems. Let alone that most of their packages are either "stable" (old crap) or apt-get doesnt even work (current or whatever). Mandrake hides all the problem solving stuff (or doesnt even have it at all). It prevents you from tamering with the system much. Then there's Slackware. I like it, but it's waaay too hard for the average Linux newbie. I download all my stuff in source and compile it. I've even considered adding to the RPM database with Slack so that you could add all the dependancies (now, all the dependancy lists aren't there - all must be forced). Still under no way, the installer has NEVER crapped out while installing packages. I've had problems with other things (unsupported/badly supported sound cards, graphics cards and modems). Network stuff usually just works.
>>X only sucks if you're running a 486.
>I'm not
I've got quite a bit of modules to increase the quality of XWindows and (window manager). That includes GL, DRI, V4L, and a bunch of other modules. All that adds up, no matter what system you put it in. I'd rather have a video input that would go directly to the video card (through X11) through DGA.
>>KDE crashing.. Damn straight. It crashes a lot over stupid stuff, and it does hog memory. Still, after it crashes It works OK.
Which versions? Are you using standard (good) hardware or POS rummage stuffs?
>My windows box uses about 40 megs of ram to boot, Linux uses about 175 (and Linux is a monolithic kernel)
I'm using 172 MB of memory (with all the nicieties ON). And about that "Monolithic kernel crap"..
modprobe idiot_slashdot_poster IQ=1
>Linux crashes much more often than windows, way more
How so? Windows freezes much more on me. Even hangs during INSTALL. I've never seen Linux hang like that.
>The few Apache/MySQL vs IIS/MS SQL tests I have seen have been won (sometimes dominated by) Windows
I dont care about those tests... However, I do remember some test that had really crappy hardware for Linux and a quad proc with Win. Wonder what won that...
X is a one size fits all poor implementation at a responsive display server (both Apple and MS are moving to hardware accelerated GUI)...If you're running a 486.
>KDE is maybe the only thing on earth more intigrated than windows explorer, everything under the sun imbeded into konqueror, it makes it clunky as hell, Nautalus is nearly as bad
Damn straight. It crashes a lot over stupid stuff, and it does hog memory. Still, after it crashes It works OK.
>Ease of use for the newbie is not as important as ergonomics for powerusers, but Linux has yet to bring an environment to the table that I can efficiently get work done it.
If you like Windows interface, go use FVWM95. I'll stick to using KDE and Wmaker.
>WinXP Pro comes with a 480 meg CD, Mandrake is 3 CD's and SuSE is 7
That's all apps you can use. Only thing I need to download is a DVD/AVI app. Windows comes with garbage (MSNMessenger vs. Gaim , IE vs. Moz, Paint vs. Gimp, nothing vs GCC suite).
>NTFS is much more stable than any Linux file system, hard shut down in Linux and watch it fsck your box
Permissions on WinNT are much nicer to deal with. Still, XFS and Reiser are really good for Linux. Only a second or 2 to "check disk".
>Installing software on a Linux system is badly broken, often you end up fixing make files, chasing dependencies, or in situations where you can't update a library with out breaking other apps, many libraries are not very backwards compatable and someone still has yet to write an installer for Linux. Nullsofts SperPiMP installer for windows is only 498K but such a simple installer has yet to exist for Linux because it's design is funamentally flawed. Even windows 3.11 had an installer and you can install the 32 bit libraries for it and still run binaries that were compiled on XP, lets see Linux do that
Creators dont care to package a nice installer like the one Loki used in UT install. Still, if you compile static LIBS inside your binaries, thye'll run on nearly any Linux X86 platform (if that's the arch you compiled them for). RPM's are OK, but you have different companies repackaging them and breaking them. Still, the best is AUTOCONF./configure . It ckecks for everything you need on your system and errors if you dont have it.
>Developers will often use GPL just so they can avoid having to create and test seperate packages for the last 3 versionsof every major distro, GPL lets someone else do it.
Yep. Essentially they are lazy in a certain regard. If you'd undertsand, they make the app for themselves alone. If somebody else wants it, try it out. If it doesnt work (and you want it), you fix it and submit patches. That's part of the cost of using Linux stuff. It doesnt cost money... Just time.
>The exists no development environment more compelling than gcc and emacs, for this reason Linux apps will always be behind
QTdesigner, INTEL's cc, KDevelop... I'd say they're "nice". Still, that's a simple bitch comment.
How can we even trust what the NSA was doing? Perhaps there was some weird coding loophole that they could exploit..
ANyways, wasnt this patch only used to add a level of true user based security and checking (based on certain credientials: IP, time, packet size.. whatnot).
And If I can remember, I believe Linux made the security model of the Linux kernel to be hot swappable with future new models- like that of VMS. The user/group based security is a pain in the ass. At least with MS, permissions arent a big problem (they have shitloads of other problems).
All this leads up to what my big point is.. MS has it right with permissions (well, what they ripped off of VMS) and Linux doesnt. The NSA source is GPL and just sitting there. WHo wouldnt stop a kernel hacker to make a good implementation of a UP TO DATE security model? Well, that and an FS for it.
---It'd be interesting if slashdot had a few stats concerning OS and browser usage available to view.
Heh heh heh. Talk to Andover about this. They took it off of slashdot as it was an EMBARRASEMENT for Slashdot. The stats were, not surprisingly, similar to Google's and most ofther web sites stats. Essentially, it shows (Along with posts and articles) that slashdot is just a popular place to bitch about WIndows.
Paraphrased from responses from this site: http://advogato.org/article/478.html
Slashdot Mirror
---".. and produces music at home, I can tell you straight up that *all* music, whether its terribly immoral gangsta rap takes talent."
.. but rap easily takes more talent than most rock heard on the radio these days."
.5 minute set solo. ALong with the rythym in rap, whoever does that does indeed have talent. Course I am a clarinet amd sax player ^_^
.. its all about referencing what people already listen to and want to hear), and you end up with the fact that nearly any musician who wants to make it must have a very deep and ingrained knowledge of what people want to hear and how to make that sound."
I agree with you on that. The problem is all the stuff you hear in "gangsta rap". Either it's drug trades or blowing heads off of cops (and gloating over it). It does take talent to mix it all together, but I stay away from it cause of the trash.
---"Some takes more than others (you seem to pick up on the fact that jazz is quite difficult, which is true)
I played in a local jazz band fro a year and a half, so yes. I do speak from experience. I also play in a conert band locally too. Saying that rock takes less talent than rap is entirely true. All you need for a rock band is a set player, bassist, and a guitar. Add X7dim (X falls within 4'ths) chords labourisly. There's a new rock album.
---"Its an extremely unappreciated art, but as a classically trained musician who listens mostly to jazz and rap, rap is *not* easy."
I think most of the gansta rap well.. sucks, but look at the roots: Jamican Steel drum chants. I had the oppurnitunity to listen to a concert of Jamicans playing. There's a well defined rythym and there's a cool groove along with talking and such. If you call that rap, I love that stuff.
---"For proof, refer to every rap you've ever heard in a commercial or promotional campaign. It's a wholesomely misunderstood style, and most media houses producing music for campaigns have *very* difficult times reproducing the sound of authentic, good rap. Its like saying that playing the drums is easy; sure, hitting a drum is easy,..."
I never said that. I tried drums. Never liked it one bit, but I respect those who can do a
---"but producing a sound with drums that people want to listen to for 5 minutes in a row is not easy, and takes time, talent, dedication, and hard work. Factor in the fact that all music must relate to a social sound and make reference to its place in the musical tapestry of a culture (ie, rock is awesome in Flynt, Michigain, but not awesome in India
Tis also the same reason why scat sounds cool. It has a push to the next syllable (just like rap) but also has to have similar chordal structures found within the charts. I've heard a few 48 bar scat solos. They have a mix of rap and jazz.
---There are plenty of positive, concious rappers out there who do not condone the "thug life". But the CD buying public drives the demand for the thug life
To me, positive rappers is an oxymoron. I think of Eminem, and other trash. I'm absolutely sure there's non-riaa rappers, but you just don't see them in a Sam Goody (or walmart, or
What I found funny was when the Daily Show (comedy central) did a story on crime prevention brought to you by Ice-T. He said how good policemen and women are. The comedy show then proceeds to show the music video "Kop Killa" by Ice-T. When I say Rap, everybody I know thinks of Gangsta Rap.
YOu could consider Jazz Scat to be a form of rap, but that takes talent. Just like the rest of jazz, if it doesnt have that swing (and groove), it just isn't jazz.
Oh come on... I think we know why rap stas spend money out the wazoo. It's also the same reasom soo many of them are "capped". Drug trades, bad deals, and gang rivalries.
If they were _just_rappers, they have nothing to worry about. Still, why do soo many of them have bullet proof cars.
I do agree with you about XSane being better than most other scanning program GUI's, still having 2 solutions is better than only 1. If you look at WIndows, there's a clone of a clone of a clone for programs. They may be mainly commercial, but there's a big choice. The more "stuff" (wether that be good or garbage) we have for Linux, the better.
Still on the part with the GPL violation.. What exactly did they snatch that pissed off the FSF? They do seem quite eager to help fix the problem, but this isn't nearly as bad as: Xvid routine ripoffs, or the VirtualDub fiasco. Avery Lee almost gave up on creating/maintaining VirtualDub cause of that.
WHat did Epson do? CP code from sane/XSane? Oh well.
Has everybody forgotten Xanadu?
I'd love to obsolete (anything)TML for a xanadu structure. The internet would be more useful, in that all sites would be pay sites. It would be against your decision only to leach, but if you give also, then it costs nothing. The cool thing is that you pay for your demand for content. Not more or less.
I'm seeing tons of people complaining how badly this site got slashdotted. I also remember from the last time, when it did too. However, after reading a few articles about "slashdotted" solutions, I clicked the link, and here it is...
I could see what people are trying to mirror. I remember an article bitching about squid servers in ISP's, but I'm happy if I can get my stuff.
---Your proc has a unique ID that someone can retrieve over the 'net? Yah, in most cases, so does your NIC.
/dev/cpu Mac blablabla Now can I?
Yeah, but in the case of the NIC, I can do a ifconfig and fix that. Cant very well ifconfig
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Go here and get (It's Here to Stay, It's The) D.M.C.A.
Seriously, get the WHOLE album. It's funny as hell
To take away from YOUR anacedocal response, I am PROUD that I have Pirated 16 CD's in the last day, and I didnt pay for them either!!!
;-) (cough)
I'm now working on yours Janis
(tounge waaaay in cheek)
Let me get this straight....
;P
That CCR5 is like the 'cells' sendmail?! Hot DAMN!
Btw, can you give me the DNA diff so I can patch it? Thanks
You idiot. I'f your'e gonna "act" like a linux user, put the right commands....
/proc/kcore > /dev/dsp
/proc fs on my crucial servers...
cat
Still, I don't use
Actually, I have a nine year old sister who sometimes uses the term. She probably doesn't know the origin of the term, or cares.
Still, regarding the socialism comment..
I see it a bit more than a side-effect. In meat-space, there's only soo much resources to go around, so a type of rationing has to be created (the basis of money). In this situation, the cost is the materials, the machinery, the buildings, and the development. That's a big bottom line
However, in cyber-space, once you create "something", it can be duplicated at little to no cost. Because of the same cost on all subsequent copies, it's effively worth the basic cost of development..
A type of socialism in coding had to happen sometime. Except in this type of socialism, there's nobody forcing you to make more code. It's all donation. Also, once you write it, others can use your older work and improve on it. After all, storage is cheap enough to disregard.
Nice talking to you.
Josh Crawley
Yes, but in the times he wrote (said) it, giving things free was unheard of. It's true that robber barons gave money after making their fortunes.
.75$ US for each copy (as of the slashdot article procaiming yesterday).
For an example, what about MP3 (and perhaps OGG). Fraunhofer patented the psychoacoustic encoding technique. Even though the idea is "free" and there is free software, they must still pay
In these days of "Free" software, It's a situation of capitalism interfreing with a sort of un-enforced socialism. It somewhat shows how broken our patent system is (in the way that in considers everybody hard-core capitalist).
Quite nice to see a company turn away MS software like this. Still, I'd love to see them to support OpenOffice instead...
Makes me wonder how much stock they have in Corel (or did they buy them out?)
fp?
Everybody's busy screaming OGG saying "death to MP3". Well, OGG isn't an answer at all. It plays nice on Mac's, X86, and sun squipment. That aint the problem. MP3's have 2 different decoders. The first one is a Floating point decoder. The second is integer decoder, which is used in many (I believe all...prove me wrong) MP3 players. OGG does NOT have a integer decoder.
Here's what's wrong with OGG, and perhaps how you can make it better:
1: No integer decoder (eg: no handheld support)
2: The Vorbis standard has NOT been solidified yet. So any developments made now would be useless
3: Patent issue: If I am correct Fraunhofer's patents are on the frequency, balancing, and general psycho-(hearing) relationships. MP3 just trims what people aren't supposed to hear. OGG uses the similar formulas too, so it could be "in violation". In my opinion, it's not a big deal (offshore server with anonymizing developer emails).
As a last note, FLAC is a great codec, however it's loseless. It's bigger, but you dont lose anything. It's also open-source and actually in 1 piece of industrial audio hardware.
I actually remember something like this...
;-) He didnt interfere with signals, and he didn't stay in 1 place. To my knowledge, he was never caught.
Near Cincinnati's river (Ohio, right?) there was a pirate station back in the 70's. They did a lot of jazz, concertals, scat.. anything "cool". I'm not sure what kind of wattage they had, but the guy did it from on top a barge
Still, It'd be funny if somebody bought a 1 MW FM transmitter (and huge power source) and broadcast it at 11 nautical miles from US coast. From what I understand about interational waters rules, 11 miles is out of range of jurisdiction. It'll piss 'em off though..
Remember, we're against all this homogenous crap on radio stations. Now who wants to _PAY_for it? The best agreement is to go directly to artists and ask if they can use, roalty-free songs, like ones found at mp3.com .
Fuck CARP and the RIAA.
So what? This is just a comp sci experiment in cellular growth. All it is is JUST BITS. What I was interested in was the much earlier slashdot article that mentioned an evolving FPGA. After N iterations, it was re-creating itself in techniques mostly unknown to electricl engineers.
Point in fact: the evolving chips aren't a big step. To an EE, you test for all possibilites and capture all errors (look at firmware in cars). An evolving chip probably has errors here and there (so EE's aren't going to be put out of business). What the chip DID show is there are new and more potent techniques for chip creation. Bigger repirotoire and more testing.
Is this like "Intelligence for idiots?"
They way they should have gone was
1: Hack whatever.army.mil
2: Post anonomously to slashdot regarding army's computer problems.
3: Request "large_num" security agreement, else will release to usenet, BugTrac, Slashdot, many newspapers, magazines....
4: Release anyways.
"But this issue has been brought up before on slashdot. "last time I looked China wasn't the 51st state" Then why should we have a right to dump our waste there. Not In My Back Yard! But to make it worse... when the kids play in the dump you think they deserve it."
In a fair quote from George Carlin...
Fuck the children!
>>Which versions? Are you using standard (good) hardware or POS rummage stuffs?
/dev . It's much easier to access /dev/dsp rather than to go through some Windows DLL for sound.
.tar.gz's. RedHat is nice only if you like Gnome (I prefer KDE/WMaker). Debian users are usally too uppity to even glance at you if they're problems. Let alone that most of their packages are either "stable" (old crap) or apt-get doesnt even work (current or whatever). Mandrake hides all the problem solving stuff (or doesnt even have it at all). It prevents you from tamering with the system much. Then there's Slackware. I like it, but it's waaay too hard for the average Linux newbie. I download all my stuff in source and compile it. I've even considered adding to the RPM database with Slack so that you could add all the dependancies (now, all the dependancy lists aren't there - all must be forced). Still under no way, the installer has NEVER crapped out while installing packages. I've had problems with other things (unsupported/badly supported sound cards, graphics cards and modems). Network stuff usually just works.
;-) Good points though.
>Yes, but Windows was fast on the bad hardware too
I'll give you that one. Linux seems to find all those nasty hardware fuckups (on the bad hardware expessially)
>>I'm using 172 MB of memory (with all the nicieties ON). And about that "Monolithic kernel crap"..
>Even when I am multitasking on windows I don't use 172 MB of RAM, one of the major advantages of Monolithic systems is that they are "faster and use less RAM" so Linux even with that advantage is still lacking. Microkernel designs are much more robust and stable, in windows, close everything out, then go to task manager and kill explorer.exe, then go the apps tab and select a new task and run explorer again. Only on a microkernel can this be done and have the system remain stable.
You mentioned something about mono kernals that doesnt quite fit Linux. Well, you can have a monolithic kernel with Linux... however about that ram usage. Linux buffers stuff into ram until it "needs" to write it. As an example (what runs me away from using Linux on public computers) is the floppy example. Take a 1 MB file and a clear floppy (Fat 16, right). Now mount the floppy in Linux and cp the file over to it. It "somehow" got done writing to it in less than a second (expessially when floppy write is about 8 KB/s). Instead the Linux kernnel cached the floppy in memory, so when you umount it, it does the rest of the writing. I see a good and bad points about this system...
Good: YOU can cp a movie file (given enough ram) and edit iot on the other location. It's actually in memory, so your speed is greatly increased in editing. However, It's sort of a hack doing it that way, as if the computer fcrashes, you've lost your edit.
Bad: Floppy example in a public setting. Some user makes a document and saves to a disk. They've been taught (by Windows) whgen green light is off, it's ok to remove disk. They now have lost all of the document. I could see a possible project in the floppy, or zip driver to make them more.. well idiot friendly. In the current way, though they work, but suck for regular users.
>>modprobe idiot_slashdot_poster IQ=1
>Drivers are something I forgot to cover, again much easier write and install on a microkernel system, thanks.
True, so are the device lists in
>>How so? Windows freezes much more on me. Even hangs during INSTALL. I've never seen Linux hang like that.
>I think this is up for debate only by the people that do not use Linux. I've used multiple versions of multiple distro, 2K and XP crash _much_ less (if ever). I am not making this up.
Well, I've used all common versions of WIndows (3.1 up to Win2k) and many distro's of Linux. Usually the Win9x versions would hang on teh install in about a 1/4 chance. The NT versions are much better at that in about a 1/100 chance of hanging on install. Under standard installs (no apps) WIndows is very stable (both WinNT and Win9X). It's only when you start actually using the system, does it start to degrade. However, I'm guesssing that the half-life of a Windows installation is much less than the half-life of a Linux installation.
With Linux, I've used Slackware, debian, Redhat, SuSE, and Mandrake. I dont like the way SuSE handles configurations in some sort of config DB. It likes to crap out Autoconf on many source
>>X only sucks if you're running a 486.
>I'm not
I've got quite a bit of modules to increase the quality of XWindows and (window manager). That includes GL, DRI, V4L, and a bunch of other modules. All that adds up, no matter what system you put it in. I'd rather have a video input that would go directly to the video card (through X11) through DGA.
>>KDE crashing.. Damn straight. It crashes a lot over stupid stuff, and it does hog memory. Still, after it crashes It works OK.
>Reiteration of my above point on stability.
I know.
>Linux is slower and less stable than windows
...If you're running a 486.
./configure . It ckecks for everything you need on your system and errors if you dont have it.
Which versions? Are you using standard (good) hardware or POS rummage stuffs?
>My windows box uses about 40 megs of ram to boot, Linux uses about 175 (and
Linux is a monolithic kernel)
I'm using 172 MB of memory (with all the nicieties ON). And about that "Monolithic kernel crap"..
modprobe idiot_slashdot_poster IQ=1
>Linux crashes much more often than windows, way more
How so? Windows freezes much more on me. Even hangs during INSTALL. I've never seen Linux hang like that.
>The few Apache/MySQL vs IIS/MS SQL tests I have seen have been won (sometimes dominated by) Windows
I dont care about those tests... However, I do remember some test that had really crappy hardware for Linux and a quad proc with Win. Wonder what won that...
X is a one size fits all poor implementation at a responsive display server (both Apple and MS are moving to hardware accelerated GUI)
>KDE is maybe the only thing on earth more intigrated than windows explorer, everything under the sun imbeded into konqueror, it makes it clunky as hell, Nautalus is nearly as bad
Damn straight. It crashes a lot over stupid stuff, and it does hog memory. Still, after it crashes It works OK.
>Ease of use for the newbie is not as important as ergonomics for powerusers, but Linux has yet to bring an environment to the table that I can efficiently get work done it.
If you like Windows interface, go use FVWM95. I'll stick to using KDE and Wmaker.
>WinXP Pro comes with a 480 meg CD, Mandrake is 3 CD's and SuSE is 7
That's all apps you can use. Only thing I need to download is a DVD/AVI app. Windows comes with garbage (MSNMessenger vs. Gaim , IE vs. Moz, Paint vs. Gimp, nothing vs GCC suite).
>NTFS is much more stable than any Linux file system, hard shut down in Linux and watch it fsck your box
Permissions on WinNT are much nicer to deal with. Still, XFS and Reiser are really good for Linux. Only a second or 2 to "check disk".
>Installing software on a Linux system is badly broken, often you end up fixing make files, chasing dependencies, or in situations where you can't update a library with out breaking other apps, many libraries are not very backwards compatable and someone still has yet to write an installer for Linux. Nullsofts SperPiMP installer for windows is only 498K but such a simple installer has yet to exist for Linux because it's design is funamentally flawed.
Even windows 3.11 had an installer and you can install the 32 bit libraries for it and still run binaries that were compiled on XP, lets see Linux do that
Creators dont care to package a nice installer like the one Loki used in UT install. Still, if you compile static LIBS inside your binaries, thye'll run on nearly any Linux X86 platform (if that's the arch you compiled them for). RPM's are OK, but you have different companies repackaging them and breaking them. Still, the best is AUTOCONF
>Developers will often use GPL just so they can avoid having to create and test seperate packages for the last 3 versionsof every major distro, GPL lets someone else do it.
Yep. Essentially they are lazy in a certain regard. If you'd undertsand, they make the app for themselves alone. If somebody else wants it, try it out. If it doesnt work (and you want it), you fix it and submit patches. That's part of the cost of using Linux stuff. It doesnt cost money... Just time.
>The exists no development environment more compelling than gcc and emacs, for this reason Linux apps will always be behind
QTdesigner, INTEL's cc, KDevelop... I'd say they're "nice". Still, that's a simple bitch comment.
>Would like feedback on this
>Thanks
How can we even trust what the NSA was doing? Perhaps there was some weird coding loophole that they could exploit..
ANyways, wasnt this patch only used to add a level of true user based security and checking (based on certain credientials: IP, time, packet size.. whatnot).
And If I can remember, I believe Linux made the security model of the Linux kernel to be hot swappable with future new models- like that of VMS. The user/group based security is a pain in the ass. At least with MS, permissions arent a big problem (they have shitloads of other problems).
All this leads up to what my big point is.. MS has it right with permissions (well, what they ripped off of VMS) and Linux doesnt. The NSA source is GPL and just sitting there. WHo wouldnt stop a kernel hacker to make a good implementation of a UP TO DATE security model? Well, that and an FS for it.
---It'd be interesting if slashdot had a few stats concerning OS and browser usage available to view.
Heh heh heh. Talk to Andover about this. They took it off of slashdot as it was an EMBARRASEMENT for Slashdot. The stats were, not surprisingly, similar to Google's and most ofther web sites stats. Essentially, it shows (Along with posts and articles) that slashdot is just a popular place to bitch about WIndows.
Paraphrased from responses from this site: http://advogato.org/article/478.html