If the patent system actually WORKED, you wouldnt have erranous patents filed like this. But we dont, so you end up with tons of tripe patents like "innovative way to swing on swingset", "1 click cookie patent", and other DUH type patents.
If this was the only case, boycott Amazon. It ISNT. I'd say BOYCOTT USPTO.
---No one bought anything over the internet. E-commerce didn't quite exist.
Things were bough in the marketplace. Brick and mortar stores didnt exist.
---Here comes some upstart that asks people to risk them the cash to make this new business model happen. They do something that most people would call innovative. A new business model is formed, the face of commerce completely changed. Today everyone sells over the internet.
Here comes this upstart that actually builds a building for commerce and sells pieces of it for sale for others. A whole new business model is formed: selling parts of your building for sheltered 24-7 markets.
---If you're this upstart who was there since day one doing what no one else did, taking the risks back then which aren't really risks today (relatively speaking), you'd be pretty mad. Especially when your big stupid competitor finally wakes up and realizes the internet exists and copies your site almost exactly, from look to semantics, and starts eating away at your bottom line.
Same goes for then too. After a while, "ideas" are everybody's. You opened up them first, so you reap first. After such, you actually have to BE COMPETITIVE TO MAKE MONEY.
---All of your hard work, creative energy, raising capital, the meetings, market analysis, research, etc. you put forth to make your crackpot idea a reality is now being blithely ripped off by your inferior. Through simple cloning your inferior is now your equal.
And that entitles you to make money? NO. YOu juat happened to be the first to capitalise off of it.
---If you've been in that position before, you know how infuriating it is. So what are your options? Sadly, very few.
You sue for things you can win, not because "It's like mine".
---Amazon is getting patents because it seems like the only way to fight off their idiot copycat competitors. I think software patents are detestable, but I understand Amazon's reasoning.
Competitors... Like Barnes&Noble, eBay, and other online sellers? It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out you can negotiate to sell stuff on the internet. Hell, I've been buying stuff off of Usent since '93. Same "barter", "Agree", "Trade Info". And banks will do escro also, for a price. And the same ratings have been enacted far longer than what eBay has done. It's called public opinion.
---It's kind of a mixed bag. It sucks that Amazon does it, but it's not going to stop me from supporting them. Why? I'll put myself in their position.
I've already advocated instead of boycotting Amazon.com , boycott software Patents that the USPTO agrees to.
---The position is one where my shareholders are screaming at me to protect their investment which they entrusted in me. A position where my customers are leaving to buy from my copycat because they can't tell the difference anymore no matter what we do. Where my employees who helped me build such a great service are worried that they might not have a job in 6 months. The choice is clear, I'd do the same thing.
Innovate or die. That's the heart of capitalism. Whoever stagnates is left in the dust.
---Step 1: This is simply yet another reason to not shop at Amazon. Show them that you don't belive in their system, don't shop there or at any of its affiliates. And make sure you tell everyone you know why you don't shop there.
Amazon's within to get a patent. It isnt their faults that the UPSTO is a fucktard. If anything, I'd say we ought to move all 'questionable' content to offshore servers and BOYCOTT the US PATENT SYSTEM. Ignore ALL PATENTS concerning software here in the US.
I wish Xine would have DVD decryption default on in the installs. After all, MPlayer does (and look at that nice domain name...).
You dont go after the spammers. WHO pays the spammers? The OWNERS of the product. Spammers are no more than messangers, and the owners probably have more money than the spammers.
Re:Nicest C-and-D letter I've seen
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It actually seemed a REAL PERSON wrote this, and not some lawyer. Infinitely nicer than the PCI archive C&D letter.
And if you would have modded hin negatively, I'd have still seen him from before. Having you refute what he says is a TRUE mod-down. Instead of some -1 Troll, you gave reason why NOT TO BELIEVE HIM.
He's going on my foes list. -1 idiot moderation well.... forever. Thanks Antifreeze
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---p.s If you don't get it then you didn't read the article
WTF are you talking about? Nobody, I mean NOBODY in their right minds reads the articles on slashdot.
If I couldnt pay rent, I dont stay there. If I cant pay for food, I starve. If I dont pay... I DONT GET. If they want to create a pay site, fine. Elsewise they DIE.
ANyways, the only orginazation which can "die and keep on living" is the government. There's ono limits how much they can take away.
Wowbagger, read the post I just posted and follow the link to the FSF.. You're actually quoted on there for asking a GnuRadio question;-)
Surprise! You're on Slashdot camera.
This article seems to be a dupe.. Why? Read on
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Take a look at this site: http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/discuss-gnuradio/ 2002-09/msg00025.html
. They answer many questions put forth by... SLASHDOT.
As a snippet:
Here are my responses to some questions posed on slashdot last week. They make a good beginning for our FAQ.
Eric
> 1) Hardware requirements (Score:5, Interesting) > by wowbagger on 2002.09.09 13:58 (#4222011) ***** READ DATE > > The GNU radio page is a little thin on the hardware requirements to run > the code - could you spell them out?
j u n k Seems interesting that this may be a 1 year dupe.
Seems really neat, but I found that card on a science site. ONLY 1000 pounds (Great Britan). I suspect that this isn't much cheaper in the US either;-(
It is official; some noname journalist confirms: *Apple is dying
One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *Apple community when IDC confirmed that *Apple market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of any computer. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *Apple has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *Apple is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *Apple's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *Apple faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *Apple because *Apple is dying. Things are looking very bad for *Apple. As many of us are already aware, *Apple continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood (and when hasnt it?)
Apple is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time Apple developers Some_Engineer#1 and Some_Engineer#2 only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: Apple is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
Apple leader Theo^H^H^H^HJobs states that there are 7000 users of Apple. How many users of Apple are there? Let's see. The number of Apple versus Wannabee posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 Apple users. Apple posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of Apple posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of Apple. A recent article put Apple at about 80 percent of the *Apple market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 Apple users. This is consistent with the number of Apple Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of nobody, abysmal sales and so on, Apple is going out of business and is being taken over by YetAnotherClone who sell another troubled OS. Now Apple is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *Apple has steadily declined in market share. *Apple is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *Apple is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *Apple continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *Apple is dead.
We recently got an email from a guy in Finland that he's going to duplicate a Unix box on commodity hardware! If you would like to give a hand, Send the person, Linus Torvalds an email or post on comp.os.minix ! He really needs your help.
---I know in Ohio, you've got to have a few different things for 'dangerous weapon.' Mace is a dangerous weapon. OC/Tear Gas is a dangerous weapon. Having a stun-gun in your glovebox is a dangerous weapon. Road Flares? Yup. Dangerous Weapon.
There is no such thing as a dangerous or deadly weapon. There are only deadly men. R. Heinlein. *(Starship Troopers)
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If the patent system actually WORKED, you wouldnt have erranous patents filed like this. But we dont, so you end up with tons of tripe patents like "innovative way to swing on swingset", "1 click cookie patent", and other DUH type patents.
If this was the only case, boycott Amazon. It ISNT. I'd say BOYCOTT USPTO.
---Rewind 8 or 9 years.
REwind a thousand years...
---No one bought anything over the internet. E-commerce didn't quite exist.
Things were bough in the marketplace. Brick and mortar stores didnt exist.
---Here comes some upstart that asks people to risk them the cash to make this new business model happen. They do something that most people would call innovative. A new business model is formed, the face of commerce completely changed. Today everyone sells over the internet.
Here comes this upstart that actually builds a building for commerce and sells pieces of it for sale for others. A whole new business model is formed: selling parts of your building for sheltered 24-7 markets.
---If you're this upstart who was there since day one doing what no one else did, taking the risks back then which aren't really risks today (relatively speaking), you'd be pretty mad. Especially when your big stupid competitor finally wakes up and realizes the internet exists and copies your site almost exactly, from look to semantics, and starts eating away at your bottom line.
Same goes for then too. After a while, "ideas" are everybody's. You opened up them first, so you reap first. After such, you actually have to BE COMPETITIVE TO MAKE MONEY.
---All of your hard work, creative energy, raising capital, the meetings, market analysis, research, etc. you put forth to make your crackpot idea a reality is now being blithely ripped off by your inferior. Through simple cloning your inferior is now your equal.
And that entitles you to make money? NO. YOu juat happened to be the first to capitalise off of it.
---If you've been in that position before, you know how infuriating it is. So what are your options? Sadly, very few.
You sue for things you can win, not because "It's like mine".
---Amazon is getting patents because it seems like the only way to fight off their idiot copycat competitors. I think software patents are detestable, but I understand Amazon's reasoning.
Competitors... Like Barnes&Noble, eBay, and other online sellers? It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out you can negotiate to sell stuff on the internet. Hell, I've been buying stuff off of Usent since '93. Same "barter", "Agree", "Trade Info". And banks will do escro also, for a price. And the same ratings have been enacted far longer than what eBay has done. It's called public opinion.
---It's kind of a mixed bag. It sucks that Amazon does it, but it's not going to stop me from supporting them. Why? I'll put myself in their position.
I've already advocated instead of boycotting Amazon.com , boycott software Patents that the USPTO agrees to.
---The position is one where my shareholders are screaming at me to protect their investment which they entrusted in me. A position where my customers are leaving to buy from my copycat because they can't tell the difference anymore no matter what we do. Where my employees who helped me build such a great service are worried that they might not have a job in 6 months. The choice is clear, I'd do the same thing.
Innovate or die. That's the heart of capitalism. Whoever stagnates is left in the dust.
--Amazon's within to get a patent.
Supposed to be...
"Amazon's within their right to get a patent."
Oops.
---Step 1: This is simply yet another reason to not shop at Amazon. Show them that you don't belive in their system, don't shop there or at any of its affiliates. And make sure you tell everyone you know why you don't shop there.
Amazon's within to get a patent. It isnt their faults that the UPSTO is a fucktard. If anything, I'd say we ought to move all 'questionable' content to offshore servers and BOYCOTT the US PATENT SYSTEM. Ignore ALL PATENTS concerning software here in the US.
I wish Xine would have DVD decryption default on in the installs. After all, MPlayer does (and look at that nice domain name...).
freudian scientist--- And what about your mother?
'bot--- AHHHHH!!RIP RIP TEAR SHREAD SLICE!
You dont go after the spammers. WHO pays the spammers? The OWNERS of the product. Spammers are no more than messangers, and the owners probably have more money than the spammers.
It actually seemed a REAL PERSON wrote this, and not some lawyer. Infinitely nicer than the PCI archive C&D letter.
What about Slashdotting?
;-)
Come on Timothy, we know what you're thinking
And then you have some slashdot troll patent an idea
"To set up a timed approch of posting data through an HPML form to make an article on Slashdot"
Dont take offence Xchino. That's not funny. That's just plain sad, and the regular life of a tech supporter ;-|
Is today "bash Intel" day? Sure as hell seems like it.
Also seem the "Adverts in articles" on Apr 1 was true.
And if you would have modded hin negatively, I'd have still seen him from before. Having you refute what he says is a TRUE mod-down. Instead of some -1 Troll, you gave reason why NOT TO BELIEVE HIM.
He's going on my foes list. -1 idiot moderation well.... forever. Thanks Antifreeze
---p.s If you don't get it then you didn't read the article
WTF are you talking about? Nobody, I mean NOBODY in their right minds reads the articles on slashdot.
If I couldnt pay rent, I dont stay there. If I cant pay for food, I starve. If I dont pay... I DONT GET. If they want to create a pay site, fine. Elsewise they DIE.
ANyways, the only orginazation which can "die and keep on living" is the government. There's ono limits how much they can take away.
Billy Joel's dead? Was Stephen King and the BSD macot with them? /satire
Wowbagger, read the post I just posted and follow the link to the FSF.. You're actually quoted on there for asking a GnuRadio question ;-)
Surprise! You're on Slashdot camera.
Take a look at this site: http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/discuss-gnuradio/ 2002-09/msg00025.html
. They answer many questions put forth by... SLASHDOT.
As a snippet:
Here are my responses to some questions posed on slashdot last week.
They make a good beginning for our FAQ.
Eric
> 1) Hardware requirements (Score:5, Interesting)
> by wowbagger on 2002.09.09 13:58 (#4222011) ***** READ DATE
>
> The GNU radio page is a little thin on the hardware requirements to run
> the code - could you spell them out?
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Seems interesting that this may be a 1 year dupe.
No, you need a very expensive DSP board. I'm guessing it's about 500-600$ here in the US. Look at my other post in this thread for the site.
Seems really neat, but I found that card on a science site. ONLY 1000 pounds (Great Britan). I suspect that this isn't much cheaper in the US either ;-(
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Heh heh heh. You sucker.
You're going down for that one.
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It is official; some noname journalist confirms: *Apple is dying
;-)
One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *Apple community when IDC confirmed that *Apple market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of any computer. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *Apple has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *Apple is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *Apple's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *Apple faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *Apple because *Apple is dying. Things are looking very bad for *Apple. As many of us are already aware, *Apple continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood (and when hasnt it?)
Apple is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time Apple developers Some_Engineer#1 and Some_Engineer#2 only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: Apple is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
Apple leader Theo^H^H^H^HJobs states that there are 7000 users of Apple. How many users of Apple are there? Let's see. The number of Apple versus Wannabee posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 Apple users. Apple posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of Apple posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of Apple. A recent article put Apple at about 80 percent of the *Apple market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 Apple users. This is consistent with the number of Apple Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of nobody, abysmal sales and so on, Apple is going out of business and is being taken over by YetAnotherClone who sell another troubled OS. Now Apple is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *Apple has steadily declined in market share. *Apple is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *Apple is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *Apple continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *Apple is dead.
Fact: *BSD^H^H^HApple is dying
(baltantly ripped of the trolls
What are these guys doing these days? Maybe they can come up with something to get the BBS scene going again. I miss it.
Kinda when the thing called the "Internet" made BBS'es defunct. The long distance charges really sucked.
Who cares about BBS'es when you can set up telnet accounts for friends along with talk (or IRC).
We recently got an email from a guy in Finland that he's going to duplicate a Unix box on commodity hardware! If you would like to give a hand, Send the person, Linus Torvalds an email or post on comp.os.minix ! He really needs your help.
---I know in Ohio, you've got to have a few different things for 'dangerous weapon.' Mace is a dangerous weapon. OC/Tear Gas is a dangerous weapon. Having a stun-gun in your glovebox is a dangerous weapon. Road Flares? Yup. Dangerous Weapon.
There is no such thing as a dangerous or deadly weapon. There are only deadly men.
R. Heinlein. *(Starship Troopers)