That would be SOMME(). It's annoying, and it isn't limited to French version. That said, they now save it as a formula, so open a file made with a French Excel in a German Excel, it will work. Copy/Paste probably not so well.
Oh, bull.... I remember the opposite times (I am European), and back then I'd never though I'd even see parity. It just takes one big economic and/or political blunder of the EU to set back the ticker.
For the moment, my situation and time for tinkering is very very limited. I found myself in the situation that the Atom 330 was the only computer I had that worked. (I borrowed out all my other machines to friends in need - yeah, I'm crazy like that) On top of that my wife's been in the hospital for the last 2 month, which greatly reduces my computing-tinkering-time.
Long story short: No, I didn't try Debian Lenny on it yet and won't for the moment.
The replacement dumpster diven Athlon XP 2600+ does the job. However, I am severely disappointed in the Atom. Unless that board is defective, I can't see how it could be hardware related. (And then, how do you prove that the board is defective, if it runs... just hellishly slow?)
Just for the record, my Asus EEE 701 4G runs Debian on a 900MHz machine just fine. So, really, I don't get it. (The Atom 330 has 4Gig RAM, the Asus 2Gig... so they're not memory starved)
Lest you still wet behind the ears 20-somethings have forgotten that today's Netbook is just as powerful as a several year old desktop (or laptop!)
I'm 33 and I've been into computers since my early teenage years. I actually own an Atom 330 desktop and the thing is sluggish as hell. For web browsing. Yes, typing in a facebook status is letter-by-letter-appearing-on-screen. Forget Flash Based Games alltogether. The thing replaced a 6 year old P-IV 2.6GHz with Hyperthreading. I'm sorry, but Atom CPU's are in not even in the same league as six year old desktops.
Performance, I think, would be on par with a P-III 800MHz. I happen to have had a P-III 800MHz desktop back in the day (now it's my parents server, running OpenBSD). If I recall correctly that machine was bought in 2001. We're talking 8 year old desktop by now.
I wonder if it's the operating system (I used Ubuntu 8.04). Up until January 2007, I used a P-III 600MHz with 512Meg RAM laptop running Windows XP and that wonderfully responsive. Alas, I have no spare WinXP license for the Atom 330. Yes, I could go the "Arrrr" route, but I've outgrown that by now.
That's not going to change the overall sluggishness of the operating system on the Atom. I will give it a try, but for now the Atom 330 is retired in favour of an old Athlon XP 2600+ with 1GB RAM and WinXP Home (Sticker on the case, FTW!)
Netbooks are stepping up in performance, as this four-threaded model [reghardware.co.uk] shows, and will soon be able to do many more things.
Ehm, I think you are grossly overestimating the Atom 330 with an ION chipset. Oh, don't worry... So did I, I saw that it was 64-bit, dual-core + hyperthreaded and the chipset is capable of doing high definition.
Well, I have one. Not the netbook form, but as desktop. It was originally meant as a toy for me, but my wifes desktop died (caps blown) and I decided to replace her P-IV 2.6GHz with Hyperthreading with my shiny new toy.
To make a long story short: even for casual surfing the Atom 330 couldn't handle. Typing on facebook is pretty much a wait-for-the-next-letter scenario. Don't get me started on using Adobe Flash games: utterly impossible.
Sure, this might be due to the fact that I used Ubuntu 8.04 on it and had to install the proprietary NVidia drivers manually. Would Windows XP fare better? No idea, I have no spare license.
Also, a thing that was highly annoying, but may be due to the chipset. I bought 4Gig RAM for that board and I can only use 3.3Gig. About 256Meg (I think) are used for the framebuffer. So where is that 0.5Gig? Well apparently that ION chipset has the old limitation of days yonder and doesn't do memory remapping. So even with a 64-bit OS, your max is 3.5Gig - framebuffer. Very disappointing.
I had to replace my powersupply of my EEE 701. The cable got stuck between the window when I was surfing and smoking on the balcony. I repaired it myself, but the reliability isn't great. Since by now I gave it to my wife, who is for a longer stay in the hospital and has free Wifi, I bought a new powersupply. Here, if anyone asks.... Expensive, but fast delivery. No, I don't work for them. Getting an original Asus power supply: next to impossible. eBay seemed to be all croocks, as they wanted to trade outside eBay.
... and if it has to be Windows for some strange reason. Give them Limited User accounts. You'll be the sole Admin (and you won't use it yourself... just User for day to day tasks) and because of that you'll have to approve or disapprove all software that has to be installed.
I have this modus operandi with my family and it works very well. Technically, you have to see a family as a small business operation where you are the IT guy.
I'm not going to disagree, but how many people know how to set up a (Windows) computer correctly with user separation. I do, apparently you do too. Even on slashdot, you read so many people claiming it can't be done (They are wrong).
So, this brings us to the fact that your daughters are lucky to have you. My family is lucky to have me. Most people don't have this kind of luck.
Doesn't change the fact that, indeed, you are 100% right.
Exactly. However, people like you and me are not the ones who are targetted. It's kids who play it and don't have (yet) the self-restraint and knowledge to avoid those scams. Of course, it's the parents who will have to fit the bill.
How would you know it's a Vista laptop... Could be running Linux, or Windows XP... or a hackingtosh.... Yeah, I know, we geeks still can dream of such a girl... Probably she doesn't exist.
Holey Maloney... Is that a photoshop? Anyway... Starting from the Acer, two right one down might also be a different computer. The apple logo isn't as prominent as on the others. There are also some red computers (For example, from the Acer, three right, one up), who have an Apple logo and as far as I know there never were red Apple machines.
I had the same problem, but I knew the reason. 9.04 didn't support my NVidia card with the provided binary drivers. So, I installed the drivers provided by NVidia on their website.
When I started the upgrade, it dawned to me that I should have uninstalled those and then do the upgrade, but it was too late. After the upgrade: flickering, etc... I simply booted in recovery mode, started a shell, reinstalled the NVidia binary drivers manually rebooted and everything was fixed.
Now granted, I would rather use the Ubuntu provided binary drivers, but if they don't work I just do it the above way. I still think this problem is caused by the fact that I already did install the drivers manually and Ubuntu upgrade was confused. For kicks, I should just reinstall 9.10 from scratch to see what happens.
I have to say my existing PCs (original P4 3ghz, 3gb or 4gb memory) are noticeably snappier than they were with XP - granted, some of that may have been the accumulation of crud that happens with any windows installation. Clean installs are always speed-boosters.
A correctly installed and administrated XP machine doesn't accumulate crap. Sure, it implies Admin/User separation and careful application selection.... But, with correct care an XP installation does not deteriorate. You just need a good Admin... Which pretty much nobody has.
Yes, I purchased one of those too. I used the original OS pretty much for half a year because it wasn't that bad. What was really bad, was the fact that Asus repositories sucked and weren't kept up to date. That's where I switched to Debian with LXDE. Never looked back.
Fair enough.... Where I live V6's are the exception not the norm. I myself drive an I4, turbocharged, good enough for 225HP. It's wasteful. I used to drive a non-turbocharged I4 doing 80HP, which was very driveable.
Nobody is saying "but my last Golf had a 3-litre V6, this is crap". Companies that focus on doing more with less are future proofing themselves.
Ehm... Never met any big-block affectionados, I see? (I'm not one) There are a lot of people (mainly in the US) who would never buy anything less than a V6, regardless performance and/or fuel consumptions. Years ago, I had a few drinks with the guy at VW responsible for US sales. He told me, that they even didn't bother to import anything below the VR6 (Back then 2.8l V6).
Times might have changed by now, but I'm pretty sure you can find people that diss a turbocharged I4 in favour of an atmospheric V6/V8.
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That would be SOMME(). It's annoying, and it isn't limited to French version. That said, they now save it as a formula, so open a file made with a French Excel in a German Excel, it will work. Copy/Paste probably not so well.
Oh, bull.... I remember the opposite times (I am European), and back then I'd never though I'd even see parity. It just takes one big economic and/or political blunder of the EU to set back the ticker.
For the moment, my situation and time for tinkering is very very limited. I found myself in the situation that the Atom 330 was the only computer I had that worked. (I borrowed out all my other machines to friends in need - yeah, I'm crazy like that) On top of that my wife's been in the hospital for the last 2 month, which greatly reduces my computing-tinkering-time.
Long story short: No, I didn't try Debian Lenny on it yet and won't for the moment.
The replacement dumpster diven Athlon XP 2600+ does the job. However, I am severely disappointed in the Atom. Unless that board is defective, I can't see how it could be hardware related. (And then, how do you prove that the board is defective, if it runs... just hellishly slow?)
Basic PXE-Boot installation of Ubuntu Desktop? Nothing else changed? Fresh install, not an upgrade.
Can't get simpler than that, so I doubt there is something wrong with my install.
It also said "if applicable".... So technically, they have a way out by saying "not applicable".
Just for the record, my Asus EEE 701 4G runs Debian on a 900MHz machine just fine. So, really, I don't get it. (The Atom 330 has 4Gig RAM, the Asus 2Gig... so they're not memory starved)
Then it must be Ubuntu. I have one with the ION chipset but I personally find it unbearable. I've replaced it with a dumpster diven Athlon XP 2600+.
I'm 33 and I've been into computers since my early teenage years. I actually own an Atom 330 desktop and the thing is sluggish as hell. For web browsing. Yes, typing in a facebook status is letter-by-letter-appearing-on-screen. Forget Flash Based Games alltogether. The thing replaced a 6 year old P-IV 2.6GHz with Hyperthreading. I'm sorry, but Atom CPU's are in not even in the same league as six year old desktops.
Performance, I think, would be on par with a P-III 800MHz. I happen to have had a P-III 800MHz desktop back in the day (now it's my parents server, running OpenBSD). If I recall correctly that machine was bought in 2001. We're talking 8 year old desktop by now.
I wonder if it's the operating system (I used Ubuntu 8.04). Up until January 2007, I used a P-III 600MHz with 512Meg RAM laptop running Windows XP and that wonderfully responsive. Alas, I have no spare WinXP license for the Atom 330. Yes, I could go the "Arrrr" route, but I've outgrown that by now.
That's not going to change the overall sluggishness of the operating system on the Atom. I will give it a try, but for now the Atom 330 is retired in favour of an old Athlon XP 2600+ with 1GB RAM and WinXP Home (Sticker on the case, FTW!)
Ehm, I think you are grossly overestimating the Atom 330 with an ION chipset. Oh, don't worry... So did I, I saw that it was 64-bit, dual-core + hyperthreaded and the chipset is capable of doing high definition.
Well, I have one. Not the netbook form, but as desktop. It was originally meant as a toy for me, but my wifes desktop died (caps blown) and I decided to replace her P-IV 2.6GHz with Hyperthreading with my shiny new toy.
To make a long story short: even for casual surfing the Atom 330 couldn't handle. Typing on facebook is pretty much a wait-for-the-next-letter scenario. Don't get me started on using Adobe Flash games: utterly impossible.
Sure, this might be due to the fact that I used Ubuntu 8.04 on it and had to install the proprietary NVidia drivers manually. Would Windows XP fare better? No idea, I have no spare license.
Also, a thing that was highly annoying, but may be due to the chipset. I bought 4Gig RAM for that board and I can only use 3.3Gig. About 256Meg (I think) are used for the framebuffer. So where is that 0.5Gig? Well apparently that ION chipset has the old limitation of days yonder and doesn't do memory remapping. So even with a 64-bit OS, your max is 3.5Gig - framebuffer. Very disappointing.
I had to replace my powersupply of my EEE 701. The cable got stuck between the window when I was surfing and smoking on the balcony. I repaired it myself, but the reliability isn't great. Since by now I gave it to my wife, who is for a longer stay in the hospital and has free Wifi, I bought a new powersupply. Here, if anyone asks.... Expensive, but fast delivery. No, I don't work for them. Getting an original Asus power supply: next to impossible. eBay seemed to be all croocks, as they wanted to trade outside eBay.
I even inherited a P-I 120MHz that still had the Turbo button. Acted as my server for years.
I read all the replies... and this one is spot on...
Let's call it an anglo-saxon tradition. I didn't pay squat, and I'm most certainly not in the country of the GP.
... and if it has to be Windows for some strange reason. Give them Limited User accounts. You'll be the sole Admin (and you won't use it yourself... just User for day to day tasks) and because of that you'll have to approve or disapprove all software that has to be installed.
I have this modus operandi with my family and it works very well. Technically, you have to see a family as a small business operation where you are the IT guy.
Yep, that's what I meant. Sorry.
I'm not going to disagree, but how many people know how to set up a (Windows) computer correctly with user separation. I do, apparently you do too. Even on slashdot, you read so many people claiming it can't be done (They are wrong).
So, this brings us to the fact that your daughters are lucky to have you. My family is lucky to have me. Most people don't have this kind of luck.
Doesn't change the fact that, indeed, you are 100% right.
Exactly. However, people like you and me are not the ones who are targetted. It's kids who play it and don't have (yet) the self-restraint and knowledge to avoid those scams. Of course, it's the parents who will have to fit the bill.
How would you know it's a Vista laptop... Could be running Linux, or Windows XP... or a hackingtosh.... Yeah, I know, we geeks still can dream of such a girl... Probably she doesn't exist.
Holey Maloney... Is that a photoshop? Anyway... Starting from the Acer, two right one down might also be a different computer. The apple logo isn't as prominent as on the others. There are also some red computers (For example, from the Acer, three right, one up), who have an Apple logo and as far as I know there never were red Apple machines.
I had the same problem, but I knew the reason. 9.04 didn't support my NVidia card with the provided binary drivers. So, I installed the drivers provided by NVidia on their website.
When I started the upgrade, it dawned to me that I should have uninstalled those and then do the upgrade, but it was too late. After the upgrade: flickering, etc... I simply booted in recovery mode, started a shell, reinstalled the NVidia binary drivers manually rebooted and everything was fixed.
Now granted, I would rather use the Ubuntu provided binary drivers, but if they don't work I just do it the above way. I still think this problem is caused by the fact that I already did install the drivers manually and Ubuntu upgrade was confused. For kicks, I should just reinstall 9.10 from scratch to see what happens.
A correctly installed and administrated XP machine doesn't accumulate crap. Sure, it implies Admin/User separation and careful application selection.... But, with correct care an XP installation does not deteriorate. You just need a good Admin... Which pretty much nobody has.
Yes, I purchased one of those too. I used the original OS pretty much for half a year because it wasn't that bad. What was really bad, was the fact that Asus repositories sucked and weren't kept up to date. That's where I switched to Debian with LXDE. Never looked back.
Fair enough.... Where I live V6's are the exception not the norm. I myself drive an I4, turbocharged, good enough for 225HP. It's wasteful. I used to drive a non-turbocharged I4 doing 80HP, which was very driveable.
Ehm... Never met any big-block affectionados, I see? (I'm not one) There are a lot of people (mainly in the US) who would never buy anything less than a V6, regardless performance and/or fuel consumptions. Years ago, I had a few drinks with the guy at VW responsible for US sales. He told me, that they even didn't bother to import anything below the VR6 (Back then 2.8l V6).
Times might have changed by now, but I'm pretty sure you can find people that diss a turbocharged I4 in favour of an atmospheric V6/V8.