I stand corrected. The problem is that the person who forwarded me this bug said it would crash both NT4 and W2K. I now just tried the "type bsod.txt" on both NT4 and W2K. NT4 behaves cleanly: nice output of only '?', however W2K showed me a nice litte reboot (bluescreen or reboot is a setting somewhere in the preferences of My Computer, seems they changed the default).
Thanks for the link! I only tested my delphi program on the NT4 box, so that could have been the reason why I coudn't make the machine crash.
Yes, I know this bug. The problem is: I was not able to reproduce it. Granted I have no Visual C++ handy, so I tried it with Delphi (don't flame me, I need to make money too). I also tried with an old DOS C compiler I had lying around. No success either.
So (I realise I'm defending Windows here) it seem to be a compiler issue. A friend of mine tried with Visual C++ (I'm not sure of the version, quite a recent one), and there the bug occurs. However even if it is a compiler bug, the OS should be robust enough to cope.
Bluescreen under W2K, easy: I swapped the places of my Adaptec 29160UW SCSI card and my 3Com Network card (don't remember the model). Just swapped slots, nothing more. Next bootup: nice little bluescreen. Luckily, restarting a second time passed. Nice side effect: Windows 2000 thought I installed a second network card.
Oh, and the Linux partition made no problem of it at all. Last time I saw a kernel panic was when I tried to install RedHat on a Pentium Pro (back when the PPro was brand new) and it didn't recognise *any* of the hardware.
Oh, but that's just a marketing problem. Instead of calling it "Linux/unstable" call it "Linux CE" (Linux Cutting Edge)...you'll see everyone flocking to Linux from there on!
IE for Mac OS X is not really a good product: large pages like slashdot's comment-filled pages take ages to load and to display locking up IE until it is completely loaded. This is not a problem, because on my x86 hardware I use Netscape and it has the same problem.
However I have a bigger issue with IE for Mac. I suspect it leaks memory like a sieve: IE is one of the apps I use most on that machine and after 3 days the memory (I have 384Megs) starts to fill up. IE is the only app I have continousely open, so it can only be that! I wanted to switch to Opera (and register), but it relies on it's own proxy configuration instead of the one in the "System Preferences", which really sucks because I use that Mac during the day on the office network (which has a proxy) and during the evening on my own network which is a NAT. Is IE deliberatly "broken"? I don't know, but I know that it's not a great product.
I even have a IE5.5 horror story on NT4, but that would bring me even more Offtopic, so I'll skip it.
I have to admit that I run IE on it, yes. And IE for Mac crashes occasionally, but doesn't take the system down as on a Windows machine. I tried Opera, but it doesn't cut it because the proxies are defined within the application and not within the OS. When I change network location (work to home), this stuff changes and I'd need to type it in each time.
As for office: I have Apple Works because it came with the machine...No I rarely use it. Applications most used are probably Terminal, IE, ICQ, Mail, Apache, FTP, Project Builder and Samba. I touch office applications about once a month. I still hope for a Mac OS X port of openoffice:-)
Give me a break! Unlike a server, a desktop machine (okay, laptop) doesn't need to stay on the whole day. I tend to turn it off from time to time. I sure get pissed when my BSD box in the basement goes out due to power failure (today again..thanx dad...sniff), but on a desktop machine it's just irrelevant! I wanted to show the uptime for the multi-using (which is new for Mac systems) and the uname was to show it is really a Unix system. I don't brag with uptimes, it's a childisch as comparing "lengths" if you see what I mean!
This guy is not a troll. He is very right: NT is stable, and most trouble I had were with crappy graphics drivers. I'm pretty sure a command-line-only NT would be great. Besides, he says "at that time", so he means back in the NT 3.51 days were most OSes were DOS or DOS/Windows 3.0 on PC.
Sometimes moderators just suck! Yes, I am very well aware that this will give me a Karma hit. Go fire!
"dd p" would be enough. dd copies the deleted line into the buffer so, you don't need to yy before doing dd. Anyway, I'm a novice vi user. Strange thing: at College the only thing they teached us was "Esc:q" to quit from vi...in case we accidentally typed vi. Emacs was our editor, strangely enough I woudn't even be able to use emacs anymore: all I remember is how to quit it;-) Ctrl-X Ctrl-C...I think:-)
And this comes as a surprise to you? Mac OS X is a Unix. It's that simple. Actually I have currently 3 terminals open, one of which is used to ssh to my OpenBSD box. I use vi daily on my Apple (I love vi, don't flame me for that). A Mac with Mac OS X is everything a unix-geek can dream of!
Here little proof fo you:
Welcome to Darwin! [hathi:~] jorg% uptime 8:16PM up 3 days, 1:53, 4 users, load averages: 2.28, 2.17, 2.02 [hathi:~] jorg% uname -a Darwin Hathi 5.3 Darwin Kernel Version 5.3: Thu Jan 24 22:06:02 PST 2002; root:xnu/xnu-201.19.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc [hathi:~] jorg%
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but they restrict attachments...So you could try jawtheshark@crosswinds.net which is my spam account since crosswinds went the bad way.
I'll buy the book, don't worry! I never ever had a problem buying books about open source software...It's just that this month is tight...(and amazon.de doens't carry it)
Yes, I found that book...unfortunately shipping costs from the US to Europe are quite high. Didn't find it on amazon.de (I don't live in germany but it's the closest one). Do you have this book? Is it really a good recommendation? I'm not too cheap to invest a bit (heck I bought the OpenBSD CD's), but I really should watch a bit better over my VISA-card (already overdue this month! Urks!)
I'm sorry but slashcode seems to have mangled my post.
It's a bit offtopic anyway what I want to ask. You know I have my OpenBSD server (firewall) that I'd love to run sendmail on. For the moment sendmail only serves mail to the machine itself. I'd really love to configure it as a complete MTA in such a way that I am less dependent on my ISP's mailserver. Unfortunately I don't know how, and the HOW-TO's found by google confuse me even more. Besides I did RTFM (man sendmail). So if anyone has a good primer, tutorial, or howto to configure sendmail, you would make a happy slashdot user out of me. Thanks in advance, and sorry again for the gibberish in the previous post.
Okay, so you knew *one* very beautiful girl that was into "computers". So *you* were the lucky one that was around when that rare animal finally came out of her server room. Good, now I envy you, now:-)
About Asia Carrara. I visited her site before, but I thought it was just a clever marketing ploy that played on the fact that many nerds (like myself) rely on porn and of course download it from the internet. Good, I was wrong, it seems for real...I took time to read the FAQ this time. But then, Asia isn't probably *that* nerdy since she doesn't post on slashdot;-)
As for keslin , I never ever read her sig. Must have not been paying attention. She is not really what I call super-pretty, but she's probably 1000 times better than anything I could get...I bet.
Thanks for proving me wrong...I'll just have to leave my own server room from time to time too.
For one thing, I could see someone emailing me a project. Not some word documents, an excel spreadsheet, and a database zipped into a ZIP file; they just email me the project. When I get it, and open the message, the project opens up presenting me with the various documents (linked to the database of phone numbers for example), and a little yellow stickynote window that has the project leader's actual email text. I didn't have to deal with unzipping the data, rearranging it, then opening the documents separately. Since the "rows" are linked, they open and act as a unit until I tell them to do otherwise.
Yes, this is already possible today...and it is called Lotus Notes. Just create a database for your project and put everything into that, mail link to database....done. Only problem of course it that this works only within a company.
Oh...that BSOD message...I hated it: it happened to me once when I wanted to install a second SCSI card....different model of the one I had installed. Result: driver overwritten (sparrow.drv or something like that) by newer card and the boot disk was on the older SCSI card. Done....had to start from scratch: no way to fix it without installing NT4 again:-(
As for "cp/dev/zero/dev/mem"...if your permissions are set right only "root" or "wheel" group can do this...so not really a danger. (Just checked Mac OSX: crw-r----- 1 root kmem 3, 0 Jan 25 09:38 mem).
Oh, no? I know many computer professionals who have a PS(2) as a gaming platform. Why? Compare the prices...what costs a PC that plays the newest funkiest games and what costs a playstation? I mean, you cannot keep a PC for 5 years as a top gaming machine...but for a console that is normal...and the games get better because the programmers master the machines. Besides, you don't have to worry about DirectX, drivers and crashes. "It just works". Consoles have their merits....in the early nineties I would have said you were right, but now? Back then PC games looked better had better interface than any common console...that has changed and consoles are on par with consumer level PC's that won't last 5 years.
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I stand corrected. The problem is that the person who forwarded me this bug said it would crash both NT4 and W2K. I now just tried the "type bsod.txt" on both NT4 and W2K. NT4 behaves cleanly: nice output of only '?', however W2K showed me a nice litte reboot (bluescreen or reboot is a setting somewhere in the preferences of My Computer, seems they changed the default).
Thanks for the link! I only tested my delphi program on the NT4 box, so that could have been the reason why I coudn't make the machine crash.
Yes, I know this bug. The problem is: I was not able to reproduce it. Granted I have no Visual C++ handy, so I tried it with Delphi (don't flame me, I need to make money too). I also tried with an old DOS C compiler I had lying around. No success either.
So (I realise I'm defending Windows here) it seem to be a compiler issue. A friend of mine tried with Visual C++ (I'm not sure of the version, quite a recent one), and there the bug occurs. However even if it is a compiler bug, the OS should be robust enough to cope.
Oh, and the Linux partition made no problem of it at all. Last time I saw a kernel panic was when I tried to install RedHat on a Pentium Pro (back when the PPro was brand new) and it didn't recognise *any* of the hardware.
Six pack of MCSE? What kind of beer is that? I bet it comes with a guaranteed hangover!
Well....I don't know any girl that uses Linux.... But if I'd had to choose a girl on her OS preferences, I'd take any girl that runs Mac OS X! :-)
Oh, but that's just a marketing problem. Instead of calling it "Linux/unstable" call it "Linux CE" (Linux Cutting Edge)...you'll see everyone flocking to Linux from there on!
I have bought The Sims....and no expansion pack, I'd be waiting in line for an adult expansion! Yay! :-))
However I have a bigger issue with IE for Mac. I suspect it leaks memory like a sieve: IE is one of the apps I use most on that machine and after 3 days the memory (I have 384Megs) starts to fill up. IE is the only app I have continousely open, so it can only be that!
I wanted to switch to Opera (and register), but it relies on it's own proxy configuration instead of the one in the "System Preferences", which really sucks because I use that Mac during the day on the office network (which has a proxy) and during the evening on my own network which is a NAT.
Is IE deliberatly "broken"? I don't know, but I know that it's not a great product.
I even have a IE5.5 horror story on NT4, but that would bring me even more Offtopic, so I'll skip it.
I tried Opera, but it doesn't cut it because the proxies are defined within the application and not within the OS. When I change network location (work to home), this stuff changes and I'd need to type it in each time.
As for office: I have Apple Works because it came with the machine...No I rarely use it. Applications most used are probably Terminal, IE, ICQ, Mail, Apache, FTP, Project Builder and Samba. I touch office applications about once a month. I still hope for a Mac OS X port of openoffice :-)
Give me a break! Unlike a server, a desktop machine (okay, laptop) doesn't need to stay on the whole day. I tend to turn it off from time to time. I sure get pissed when my BSD box in the basement goes out due to power failure (today again..thanx dad...sniff), but on a desktop machine it's just irrelevant!
I wanted to show the uptime for the multi-using (which is new for Mac systems) and the uname was to show it is really a Unix system. I don't brag with uptimes, it's a childisch as comparing "lengths" if you see what I mean!
Sometimes moderators just suck! Yes, I am very well aware that this will give me a Karma hit. Go fire!
"dd p" would be enough. dd copies the deleted line into the buffer so, you don't need to yy before doing dd. ;-) Ctrl-X Ctrl-C...I think :-)
Anyway, I'm a novice vi user. Strange thing: at College the only thing they teached us was "Esc:q" to quit from vi...in case we accidentally typed vi. Emacs was our editor, strangely enough I woudn't even be able to use emacs anymore: all I remember is how to quit it
Here little proof fo you:
Unixy enough for ya?
But was it audited by the OpenBSD team? That is where my trust lies....so I stay minimalist on my server
I'll buy the book, don't worry! I never ever had a problem buying books about open source software...It's just that this month is tight...(and amazon.de doens't carry it)
Yes, I found that book...unfortunately shipping costs from the US to Europe are quite high. Didn't find it on amazon.de (I don't live in germany but it's the closest one). Do you have this book? Is it really a good recommendation? I'm not too cheap to invest a bit (heck I bought the OpenBSD CD's), but I really should watch a bit better over my VISA-card (already overdue this month! Urks!)
It's a bit offtopic anyway what I want to ask. You know I have my OpenBSD server (firewall) that I'd love to run sendmail on. For the moment sendmail only serves mail to the machine itself. I'd really love to configure it as a complete MTA in such a way that I am less dependent on my ISP's mailserver. Unfortunately I don't know how, and the HOW-TO's found by google confuse me even more. Besides I did RTFM (man sendmail). So if anyone has a good primer, tutorial, or howto to configure sendmail, you would make a happy slashdot user out of me.
Thanks in advance, and sorry again for the gibberish in the previous post.
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Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing.
About Asia Carrara. I visited her site before, but I thought it was just a clever marketing ploy that played on the fact that many nerds (like myself) rely on porn and of course download it from the internet. Good, I was wrong, it seems for real...I took time to read the FAQ this time. But then, Asia isn't probably *that* nerdy since she doesn't post on slashdot ;-)
As for keslin , I never ever read her sig. Must have not been paying attention. She is not really what I call super-pretty, but she's probably 1000 times better than anything I could get...I bet.
Thanks for proving me wrong...I'll just have to leave my own server room from time to time too.
No thank you, I prefer pretty girls...and I never met a pretty geekette.
Oh, you meant there are computers on the pics? That makes it different: I always get a hard-on when I see a PDP-11 ;-)
Yes, this is already possible today...and it is called Lotus Notes. Just create a database for your project and put everything into that, mail link to database....done. Only problem of course it that this works only within a company.
Wow, what a surreal experience.... It just seems to me I'm back in the early eithies! Cool, I'm young again! :-)
As for "cp /dev/zero /dev/mem"...if your permissions are set right only "root" or "wheel" group can do this...so not really a danger. (Just checked Mac OSX: crw-r----- 1 root kmem 3, 0 Jan 25 09:38 mem).
Oh, no? I know many computer professionals who have a PS(2) as a gaming platform. Why? Compare the prices...what costs a PC that plays the newest funkiest games and what costs a playstation? I mean, you cannot keep a PC for 5 years as a top gaming machine...but for a console that is normal...and the games get better because the programmers master the machines. Besides, you don't have to worry about DirectX, drivers and crashes. "It just works".
Consoles have their merits....in the early nineties I would have said you were right, but now? Back then PC games looked better had better interface than any common console...that has changed and consoles are on par with consumer level PC's that won't last 5 years.