Perhaps I do not fully understand something here but the following comment from the PARENT has me a little confused.
Much (not all) Slashdot (and pro-OSS) discussion never actually references sources, preferring to stick to anecdotal second hand knowledge - "Windows always crashes" etc.
I don't see why I as a USER needs to wait for some miss-informed journalist to write an article about Windows before I can comment about it. I've used it ever since Windows3.1. and if from personal experience I know it crashes, is that not a valid response or critique of the software? Do I need to have an article posted on a news site, so I can refer to it to justify my comments? This logic makes no sense to me. First hand experience is far from ...anecdotal second hand knowledge.. as suggested in the PARENT post.
I may be a Linux follower but logic tells me this:
a) That if I go to Windows update I get 40 updates from the last 1+yr plus from a fresh install..
b) I get daily updates sometimes when it comes to Linux... and plenty more then 40 updates a year.. probably 40 updates every 40 days!
Now...Linux isn't admitting flaws? You've got to be kidding me!@#
No, but I'm going to invent the Yompter. Then create roftware for it. Sell that to the masses of unhappy people and eventually revive Linnux in what people may now call Ginux.
I used to swap my keyboard/mouse (PS2) between my computers all the time (on the fly)... never having damage or reboots. Currently I still swap my PS/2 Keyboard on occasion. Those warnings don't seem to be a factor with any newer system, only good old systems from when the PS2 ports where coming into the computer desktop environment.
I thought solaris only supported 4 processors compared to linux's 16... Maybe I'm smoking something but wasn't that even mentioned in the article? 5 > 4 if not 6...let alone another 11 processors.
Personally, being a novice developer myself I must disgree with you. Its not only important but vital to know what software can work with what hardware and what is the best server for an application/web site/web service I'm helping with or making on my own. I don't think a Systems Admin should be deciding what type of software should run where, although I think there input is needed and an asset.
Can you please tell me where the option in hotmail is to "get rid of spam" frankly I've been getting more... I'd say everymonth, my daily spam increases by one. Unless your blocking all non-friendly address I don't understand how you aren't getting spam....
I'm going to assume that spammers use programs to search our webpages for @ and grab the text on both sides.... how long do you think it will be before spammers grab... text-AT-text or any of the obvious alternatives....
Being only 21 I can't say I have much banking experience. However I've allready had to tell off the Bank Manager at a CIBC and transfer all my money to another bank. Based on my knowledge your best bet is TD.... however that may be a biased opinion as my brother works at office for TD part-time and another family member fulltime.
Anyways I would be careful before you give your money to CIBC. Greedy bastards!
The auto notification / 2-4clicks to update and install patches in redhat comes to mind?
I understand your point, but lets not be ignorant here, options exist..especially for anyone that can remember 2 commands.
Isn't it safe to say if the cost of a 'server' or 'workstation' 64bit chip is cheap enough to replace a 'standard' chip in a PC then why can't they claim the right to the first Desktop PC (64bit)...just because it can be used as a server or workstation doesn't mean it can't do all of the needs of a PC.
Reminds me of "Strong enough for a man, but made for a women" no???
Aswell I don't know if I agree with the statement that is has to be a basically "Dell" or some big name company build to be a PC... I have a 17inch monitor, speakers, headphones a mouse and keyboard and athlon 1600+... I call it a PC..and I built it from parts.
Ah, the well known high quality brand Alienware, of course Apple doesn't have a fighting chance against a brandname like that. Alienware's years of service in the Fortune 500, the constant stream of quality awards in consumer magazines. Apple's crazy to ask 200 dollars more, the G5 should be half the price to even be considered.
I think your missing the fact that the other systems beside the G5 had to get 'extra' features included to get the price range even close to the G5. If they would have purchased the pcs with all the lacking components as the G5 the prices could have been easily over $1000 cheaper.
Aswell just because your buying a brand name product doesn't mean you should pay more, logically they hold bigger market share and should be offering products at a cheaper rate!
Your understanding it right that they will re-evaluate it. However they also state that if the service cannot be changed to do 'no damage' to the internet then it will not be implemented. In other words they're saying
Pull all that crap you did! Submit each change to us, and anyone that aren't rediculous we will allow you to implement.
I agree with you to some extent.
If you commit the crime, do the time.
However, if you a store owner persay, leave not only your door open, but your safe open and your money visible, with the safe at the front door and your money having a glowing neon sign above it. Is the criminal still commiting a crime, yes! Does it justify 20years in prison? I don't agree. Think about this... if you leave your door wide open, leave all your important documents read/write access on 500workstations...allows for access from the internet to every service running on your network. There has to be a point where the company has to take some responsibility for being utterly oblivious to security. I think if someone hacks into a company who has a wide open security policy and does no damage whatsoever, they should receive something similar to a b & e charge..why should they receive something more severe then a murder? What kind of crazy thinking is that? Rape is on avg. 11 years of jail time in the US... you want some 17year old with too much time on his hands (because school isn't challenging him) being charged with hacking and sentenced to life for breaking into 50+ companies and doing no harm whatsoever?
I think they should be responsible... but lets be realistic at the same time. Heres an example (food for thought)
This is utterly confusing to me.
18year old co-op student = S
employer at a web hosting company = E
S: I notice you have all your financial documents shared over the network E.
E: You were on the financial server looking at documents?
S: Sorry sir, I saw all these shares and wondered what they were on the network. (S's job is to help with network problems)
E: We found a.doc file on your system and it has personal data.
S: Ya, thats what I mean.. this is a big security risk. .....1 year later S charged to 27years in prison for hacking into his companies fanacial records.
Glad to say I'm a canadian! Unfortunately I don't believe are laws are much better. Anyone care to inlighten me on penalties in canada for a computer crime?
And as others have pointed out, TIME = MONEY therefore if we all have that much more time everyday, not only at work but at home, our lives as inviduals will be less stressful and more productive!!!!
Thus creating jobs from the increase in productivity and healthier employees! Everyone knows that stress leads to illness.. if employees are happy and less stressful.... we can conclude that more work is getting done, in all industries (Reputable ones).
I submitted a complaint to the BBB.
I suggest everyone submit one if they feel it necessary.
I requested that sco be stoped from
1) Pump and Dumb Stock Scheme
2) Slander of reputable business'/communities
3) Deception to investors
4) Attempt to distroy the competition (Literally)
EVERYONE bbb.org!
I think your clearly lost.. As a consumer myself I stoped buying cd's 8years ago when I came to the conclusion that cds were basically 15 songs, and 14 of them being complete garbage, where the 1 song that was good was the one being played over and over again on the radio. I have downloaded a few mp3s, so sure call me a pirate, however I would not have bought the music other wise... I basically downloaded music because the radio station isn't allways playing music so I have burned 3 cds in the last 2 years for my car stereo, aswell one cd of 150songs for my mp3 player... some of those songs came from my cd's. (About half)....
I think its safe to say that your 'smoking something' because its clear to any informed consumer that piracy has not hindered the music industry at all, I personal think its actually helped. That fact that consumers are becoming more knowledgable and deciding that $20 isn't worth one good song that lasts for 3minutes..isn't because of piracy, its because of LOGIC. Do you honestly think a CD is worth $20 for 1 decent song and say 12 shity ones? Interesting is you can get a DVD movie which has a MOVIE and a soundtrack for around the same price, sometimes cheaper then a CD of that soundtrack thats on the DVD. RIAA is just hurting the industry anymore, if I were a Record Store Owner, I would boycott all RIAA members and take a stand.
Yes, them offering a protection from litigation against crazy SCO allegations is real bad for average joe blow using Linux right? *COUGH* SARCASM *COUGH*
Whatever you're smoking, it seems to be the same stuff SCO has:)
Perhaps he could ask the community for help tracking down the DDOS attacks, it only takes one IP of a friend or someone down the road from one of us to get the ball rolling.
Go ahead and post the thousands of IP's... I'd be glad to poke around and see if I can find any of those pcs in this area or get in touch with any of the PC's owners.
A Toast to AMD for once again making the superior product.
Where have you been? AMD's chips have been out performing Intel's for quite some time now, you buy a 2.0 gig from amd and it will out perform anywhere from 2.0-2.6gig Intel's...not to mention Intel's chips cost more! (Considering a 2.4 is roughly the same as a 2.0gig AMD)
Theres been talk of them putting up a cap,but nothing yet...however the dsl situation around here has becoming very humourous! BELL who owns the phone lines, has a capped dsl service, were plenty of other companies offer uncapped services running on bell's lines lol!
Cap my service that I'm paying for, misewell spend another 7years on dialup for 1/3 of the cost! I'm paying for the service I can do anything with that bandwidth I choose to.
I don't think thats a fair analogy...
How about, its like giving someone alcohol, and if there a big enough moron/jackass to get in a car and drive somewhere....
Example exploit code is helpful, its make paching time alot less I'm sure when the person who wrote the 'said' software doesn't need to figure out how to exploit his own code he can just look at the example code and write up a patch...its hard to see holes in your own logic..everyones knows that...
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I don't see why I as a USER needs to wait for some miss-informed journalist to write an article about Windows before I can comment about it. I've used it ever since Windows3.1. and if from personal experience I know it crashes, is that not a valid response or critique of the software? Do I need to have an article posted on a news site, so I can refer to it to justify my comments? This logic makes no sense to me. First hand experience is far from
I may be a Linux follower but logic tells me this:
a) That if I go to Windows update I get 40 updates from the last 1+yr plus from a fresh install..
b) I get daily updates sometimes when it comes to Linux... and plenty more then 40 updates a year.. probably 40 updates every 40 days!
Now...Linux isn't admitting flaws? You've got to be kidding me!@#
No, but I'm going to invent the Yompter. Then create roftware for it. Sell that to the masses of unhappy people and eventually revive Linnux in what people may now call Ginux.
I used to swap my keyboard/mouse (PS2) between my computers all the time (on the fly)... never having damage or reboots. Currently I still swap my PS/2 Keyboard on occasion. Those warnings don't seem to be a factor with any newer system, only good old systems from when the PS2 ports where coming into the computer desktop environment.
Who is the bright guy that mode'd up the Parent.. can we say Troll?
I thought solaris only supported 4 processors compared to linux's 16... Maybe I'm smoking something but wasn't that even mentioned in the article? 5 > 4 if not 6...let alone another 11 processors.
You make a good point, but your forgetting Linux was far from optimized in the tests for this Article, and the 2.4 kernel was used aswell.
Personally, being a novice developer myself I must disgree with you. Its not only important but vital to know what software can work with what hardware and what is the best server for an application/web site/web service I'm helping with or making on my own. I don't think a Systems Admin should be deciding what type of software should run where, although I think there input is needed and an asset.
Can you please tell me where the option in hotmail is to "get rid of spam" frankly I've been getting more... I'd say everymonth, my daily spam increases by one. Unless your blocking all non-friendly address I don't understand how you aren't getting spam....
I'm going to assume that spammers use programs to search our webpages for @ and grab the text on both sides.... how long do you think it will be before spammers grab... text-AT-text or any of the obvious alternatives....
:P
I say we just jail all spammers... anyhow
Being only 21 I can't say I have much banking experience. However I've allready had to tell off the Bank Manager at a CIBC and transfer all my money to another bank. Based on my knowledge your best bet is TD.... however that may be a biased opinion as my brother works at office for TD part-time and another family member fulltime.
Anyways I would be careful before you give your money to CIBC. Greedy bastards!
The auto notification / 2-4clicks to update and install patches in redhat comes to mind?
I understand your point, but lets not be ignorant here, options exist..especially for anyone that can remember 2 commands.
apt-get update
apt-get upgrade
holy crap, thats a tough thing to grasp.
Isn't it safe to say if the cost of a 'server' or 'workstation' 64bit chip is cheap enough to replace a 'standard' chip in a PC then why can't they claim the right to the first Desktop PC (64bit)...just because it can be used as a server or workstation doesn't mean it can't do all of the needs of a PC.
Reminds me of "Strong enough for a man, but made for a women" no???
Aswell I don't know if I agree with the statement that is has to be a basically "Dell" or some big name company build to be a PC... I have a 17inch monitor, speakers, headphones a mouse and keyboard and athlon 1600+... I call it a PC..and I built it from parts.
Aswell just because your buying a brand name product doesn't mean you should pay more, logically they hold bigger market share and should be offering products at a cheaper rate!
The parent should be informative not funny.
The parent demonstrates that the G5 was not the first Desktop pc...like soo many mac zealots claim in above and I'm sure below posts.
Your understanding it right that they will re-evaluate it. However they also state that if the service cannot be changed to do 'no damage' to the internet then it will not be implemented. In other words they're saying
Pull all that crap you did! Submit each change to us, and anyone that aren't rediculous we will allow you to implement.
I agree with you to some extent.
.doc file on your system and it has personal data.
.....1 year later
If you commit the crime, do the time.
However, if you a store owner persay, leave not only your door open, but your safe open and your money visible, with the safe at the front door and your money having a glowing neon sign above it. Is the criminal still commiting a crime, yes! Does it justify 20years in prison? I don't agree. Think about this... if you leave your door wide open, leave all your important documents read/write access on 500workstations...allows for access from the internet to every service running on your network. There has to be a point where the company has to take some responsibility for being utterly oblivious to security. I think if someone hacks into a company who has a wide open security policy and does no damage whatsoever, they should receive something similar to a b & e charge..why should they receive something more severe then a murder? What kind of crazy thinking is that? Rape is on avg. 11 years of jail time in the US... you want some 17year old with too much time on his hands (because school isn't challenging him) being charged with hacking and sentenced to life for breaking into 50+ companies and doing no harm whatsoever?
I think they should be responsible... but lets be realistic at the same time. Heres an example (food for thought)
This is utterly confusing to me.
18year old co-op student = S
employer at a web hosting company = E
S: I notice you have all your financial documents shared over the network E.
E: You were on the financial server looking at documents?
S: Sorry sir, I saw all these shares and wondered what they were on the network. (S's job is to help with network problems)
E: We found a
S: Ya, thats what I mean.. this is a big security risk.
S charged to 27years in prison for hacking into his companies fanacial records.
Glad to say I'm a canadian! Unfortunately I don't believe are laws are much better. Anyone care to inlighten me on penalties in canada for a computer crime?
And as others have pointed out, TIME = MONEY therefore if we all have that much more time everyday, not only at work but at home, our lives as inviduals will be less stressful and more productive!!!!
Thus creating jobs from the increase in productivity and healthier employees! Everyone knows that stress leads to illness.. if employees are happy and less stressful.... we can conclude that more work is getting done, in all industries (Reputable ones).
My 2 cents!
I submitted a complaint to the BBB. I suggest everyone submit one if they feel it necessary. I requested that sco be stoped from 1) Pump and Dumb Stock Scheme 2) Slander of reputable business'/communities 3) Deception to investors 4) Attempt to distroy the competition (Literally) EVERYONE bbb.org!
I think your clearly lost.. As a consumer myself I stoped buying cd's 8years ago when I came to the conclusion that cds were basically 15 songs, and 14 of them being complete garbage, where the 1 song that was good was the one being played over and over again on the radio. I have downloaded a few mp3s, so sure call me a pirate, however I would not have bought the music other wise... I basically downloaded music because the radio station isn't allways playing music so I have burned 3 cds in the last 2 years for my car stereo, aswell one cd of 150songs for my mp3 player... some of those songs came from my cd's. (About half)....
:P
I think its safe to say that your 'smoking something' because its clear to any informed consumer that piracy has not hindered the music industry at all, I personal think its actually helped. That fact that consumers are becoming more knowledgable and deciding that $20 isn't worth one good song that lasts for 3minutes..isn't because of piracy, its because of LOGIC. Do you honestly think a CD is worth $20 for 1 decent song and say 12 shity ones? Interesting is you can get a DVD movie which has a MOVIE and a soundtrack for around the same price, sometimes cheaper then a CD of that soundtrack thats on the DVD. RIAA is just hurting the industry anymore, if I were a Record Store Owner, I would boycott all RIAA members and take a stand.
My $0.02
Yes, them offering a protection from litigation against crazy SCO allegations is real bad for average joe blow using Linux right? *COUGH* SARCASM *COUGH*
:)
Whatever you're smoking, it seems to be the same stuff SCO has
Perhaps he could ask the community for help tracking down the DDOS attacks, it only takes one IP of a friend or someone down the road from one of us to get the ball rolling.
Go ahead and post the thousands of IP's... I'd be glad to poke around and see if I can find any of those pcs in this area or get in touch with any of the PC's owners.
A Toast to AMD for once again making the superior product.
Where have you been? AMD's chips have been out performing Intel's for quite some time now, you buy a 2.0 gig from amd and it will out perform anywhere from 2.0-2.6gig Intel's...not to mention Intel's chips cost more! (Considering a 2.4 is roughly the same as a 2.0gig AMD)
Rogers in Eastern canada does not have a cap.
Theres been talk of them putting up a cap,but nothing yet...however the dsl situation around here has becoming very humourous! BELL who owns the phone lines, has a capped dsl service, were plenty of other companies offer uncapped services running on bell's lines lol!
Cap my service that I'm paying for, misewell spend another 7years on dialup for 1/3 of the cost! I'm paying for the service I can do anything with that bandwidth I choose to.
I don't think thats a fair analogy...
How about, its like giving someone alcohol, and if there a big enough moron/jackass to get in a car and drive somewhere....
Example exploit code is helpful, its make paching time alot less I'm sure when the person who wrote the 'said' software doesn't need to figure out how to exploit his own code he can just look at the example code and write up a patch...its hard to see holes in your own logic..everyones knows that...