so i'm gonna wait until its on DVD, and i can watch it in the comfort of my own home, where i can choose to laugh or not laugh, or not, without having the collective crowd around me to 'prompt' me to laugh, or not laugh, in a big dark room..
i mean, really. all this slavish devotion to mob think has trained me to realise when the time comes for individualism, and when the time comes to be one of the masses.
Your imagined elitism is the most pronounced I've ever seen on the 'dot. Bravo. You must have many friends.
Never take in your used games for cash or trade-in at GameStop and EBGames. Just sell them on eBay. You are pretty much guaranteed to get at least twice what they'll offer you at the store and it's pretty easy.
Cutting out the middleman is definitely the way to go.
The whole tone of Slashdot when it comes to Longhorn sounds like someone who is desperate to believe their own propoganda. Here we are, over a year from final release, and because of a few screenshots, people are already claiming that this looks like it could be a "train wreck". Puh-leeze.
Holy crap, I sometimes wonder if the reading comprehension of the average Slashdot reader even approaches 3rd grade.
Look at the guy's list. He has several "pretend" languages. Would you say that he has an "interest in pretend languages" as I said in my original posting? Does the fact there is a real language in the list mean he doesn't?
People, the process order for posting on Slashdot should be:
I believe his interest in pretend languages pretty much assures that.
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Everytime I go into any of these little gaming specialty stores (GameStop, EB, GameCrazy), there's always the dude in there who has to bash my system. If I'm in there looking at Nintendo stuff, they'll tell me that Nintendo is dead. The other day I was in there just playing a demo and the two employees were talking loudly back and forth about how the Nintendo DS stood for "Nintendo Dead System". I kept thinking, "Wow, this really makes me want to buy my DS games here!".
Perhaps they need to be screen out the fanboy's in their hiring process.
Yeah, and it's even easier to share MP3's that are already burned on a CD, than to have to try to copy them back off using USB/Firewire/Whatever. I don't understand why their new flash and HD players have to be so crippled.
I have a Sony D-NF610 CD-based MP3 player that also has FM/AM/TV (audio only obviously)/Weather bands too. It gets insane battery life too when playing MP3's from the CD (35+ hours). It seems to be very well built too. I've dropped mine while riding my bike and it hit the ground and rolled a ways. It still works fine.
My GameCube has taken such a beating by my two kids, and it has had zero problems so far. I find it strange hearing about all the issues that my friends and family have with their PS2's and XBox's. I know it's completely anectodal, but it just seems that Nintendo really knows how to build stuff that lasts.
That argument is always part of a discussion where people consistently claim otherwise. Attributing a consistent opinion to a few million people is silly.
Making points that have nothing to do with the conversation is much more silly, don't you think? I didn't make the claim that everyone on Slashdot thinks the same thing. I'm making the point that if one is going to say that copying content you don't have the rights to and breaking license agreements is not theft when it comes to music and movies, then it becomes difficult to argue such when it comes to GPL'ed software.
Man, you have no idea do you. I would advise you to check out my other responses. Let me ask, have you actually ever worked with Microsoft? Have you ever had to make decisions regarding how much support you purchase for them? Do you have any idea how much their support costs? If not, then perhaps you shouldn't get involved in conversations that you have no knowledge about.
You'd better not be alone in what you demand then. You probably don't have enough money to presure microsoft all on your own.
I'm sorry, this is going to sound very condescending, but when someone says something like this, I really get the idea that they must not deal with this sort of thing in real life, and instead they gain most of their "knowledge" about real world I.T. (especially Microsoft) from Slashdot alone.
News flash for you: If you pay for support from Microsoft, they not only listen to you, but they will fix your problems if they can. We've received non-public fixes, some made especially for problems we've discovered. We're not a Fortune 500 company either.
Who says microsoft can't just stop, if there is no more profit to be had?
I don't know if I can stop laughing long enough to respond to this statement.
So your company can't devote at least one programmer on the project? Then you sure aren't big enough to be even noticed by microsoft.
And how much does it cost to hire a full time OSS expert programmer to support the OSS software I use? $100,000 a year plus all of the benefits? And will one be enough? If I'm running some mission critical software on Linux, I would want more than one on staff, considering people go on vacations, have medical emergencies, etc. So now we're talking $200,000+ a year and up? And that's just for supporting Linux. Suppose I use Apache also. Can't you see how expensive this kind of thing can get? I'll tell you, we spend much less paying Microsoft to support all of our Microsoft products than we would to hire even 5 full-time programmers. And we get the people who really know the product.
Actually, this could easily be considered theft because the original authors are being deprived of the credit they earned by writing the code.
The argument is made consistently on Slashdot that theft is the physical removal of someone elses property. It means they no longer have their original property. If you want to make the argument that they are being "deprived" of something that legally they have the right to (through the GPL), then it is quite easy to say that the record and movie companies are being "deprived" of the revenue they should be receiving for those who copy their content.
Huh? I've had no problem using the latest version of AdBlock with the latest version of Firefox. Just make sure to completely remove the extention, then uninstall the old version of FireFox, then reinstall both. Seemed to work for me.
Personally, I don't. But the company I work for does. We pay big bucks to get premium support from Microsoft. If we have some issue with their software, and I take it to them, they'll give me a fix. It's happened before.
We *are* deprived of something. It's just not monetary. It's improvements to the code.
As I've said, if you make the argument that "theft" has taken place because you are deprived of something that you normally feel you would have had, then you can make that same argument with people who "steal" music and movies.
But you might say, these people wouldn't have purchased the music or movies anyway! So the recording studios aren't out anything! Well, do you honestly think that these scumbags working on CherryOS would have made any changes/improvements ot the code if they were to abide by the GPL?
These guys got together over a weekend to do maintenance and fix bugs on a project they truly care about. The guys at MS only started fixing bugs when it became obvious that their ineptitude might cost them some of The Almighty Dollar.
Your comment is very interesting because I'm guessing by the wording of your comment that you obviously prefer the Apache/OSS way. But when I read your comment, I think I'd rather trust my systems to be running on Microsoft. Why? Because I'd rather do business with a group that's motivated by money because I have something to bargain with. If it's just a group who does it for fun, who's to say they won't just stop? Or find another interest? What then?
Note: Answering my question, "Well, you have the source code, so you can do whatever you want!!1!" only tells me you probably have very little real world experience.
They are not merely making a copy. They are claiming it as their own creation. Surely you can see the difference.
There is a difference, but it doesn't mean what they are doing is theft, or that it is anymore theft than making copies of content/software you don't own.
When one makes the statement that people who copy movies/music/software aren't "stealing" because they are making a copy of existing code and the original content authors are not out anything (because they still have their original copy), they are making the distinction that it only becomes theft if you remove the original from the hands of the owner. In this case, the PearPC guys still have all of their own original code. They aren't "out" anything except possibly for the credit of their original work. How are they "losing" out on anything by the CherryOS guys copying their code? If you say they are out potential revenues from selling their code, then you are acknowledging that the ??AA has a point, aren't you?
In both cases, people are releasing their intellectual property to the world under certain conditions. In one case, they say you can use the property however you want, you just can't give copies of it to other people. In the other, they say you can use the property however you want, and you can give it to other people, but only if you also do it in it's original form (source code). Both parties have the right to put whatever conditions they wish on redistribution, no?
I can't believe that each week the use of technology on the show 24 gets worse and worse. People complain about CSI, but the stuff they do on 24 makes CSI look like a documentary.
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Your imagined elitism is the most pronounced I've ever seen on the 'dot. Bravo. You must have many friends.
Never take in your used games for cash or trade-in at GameStop and EBGames. Just sell them on eBay. You are pretty much guaranteed to get at least twice what they'll offer you at the store and it's pretty easy.
Cutting out the middleman is definitely the way to go.
He'll most likely be running for governor of New York state.
I'm sorry, but if you think OS Improvements = Graphical updates to the Interface, then you should probably stick with your Mac.
The whole tone of Slashdot when it comes to Longhorn sounds like someone who is desperate to believe their own propoganda. Here we are, over a year from final release, and because of a few screenshots, people are already claiming that this looks like it could be a "train wreck". Puh-leeze.
So we were doomed, but are no longer?
Holy crap, I sometimes wonder if the reading comprehension of the average Slashdot reader even approaches 3rd grade.
Look at the guy's list. He has several "pretend" languages. Would you say that he has an "interest in pretend languages" as I said in my original posting? Does the fact there is a real language in the list mean he doesn't?
People, the process order for posting on Slashdot should be:
I believe his interest in pretend languages pretty much assures that.
Everytime I go into any of these little gaming specialty stores (GameStop, EB, GameCrazy), there's always the dude in there who has to bash my system. If I'm in there looking at Nintendo stuff, they'll tell me that Nintendo is dead. The other day I was in there just playing a demo and the two employees were talking loudly back and forth about how the Nintendo DS stood for "Nintendo Dead System". I kept thinking, "Wow, this really makes me want to buy my DS games here!".
Perhaps they need to be screen out the fanboy's in their hiring process.
Yeah, and it's even easier to share MP3's that are already burned on a CD, than to have to try to copy them back off using USB/Firewire/Whatever. I don't understand why their new flash and HD players have to be so crippled.
I have a Sony D-NF610 CD-based MP3 player that also has FM/AM/TV (audio only obviously)/Weather bands too. It gets insane battery life too when playing MP3's from the CD (35+ hours). It seems to be very well built too. I've dropped mine while riding my bike and it hit the ground and rolled a ways. It still works fine.
My GameCube has taken such a beating by my two kids, and it has had zero problems so far. I find it strange hearing about all the issues that my friends and family have with their PS2's and XBox's. I know it's completely anectodal, but it just seems that Nintendo really knows how to build stuff that lasts.
It seems to me that we still have the traces of sunlight close to 9:30PM in AZ. If we did DST, we'd be pushing 10:30 in the middle of the summer.
Oh please. Take a look at the rest of the conversation where I discuss the issue with people who are trying to make the distinction.
Exactly what are you trying to accomplish here?
Making points that have nothing to do with the conversation is much more silly, don't you think? I didn't make the claim that everyone on Slashdot thinks the same thing. I'm making the point that if one is going to say that copying content you don't have the rights to and breaking license agreements is not theft when it comes to music and movies, then it becomes difficult to argue such when it comes to GPL'ed software.
Man, you have no idea do you. I would advise you to check out my other responses. Let me ask, have you actually ever worked with Microsoft? Have you ever had to make decisions regarding how much support you purchase for them? Do you have any idea how much their support costs? If not, then perhaps you shouldn't get involved in conversations that you have no knowledge about.
I'm sorry, this is going to sound very condescending, but when someone says something like this, I really get the idea that they must not deal with this sort of thing in real life, and instead they gain most of their "knowledge" about real world I.T. (especially Microsoft) from Slashdot alone.
News flash for you: If you pay for support from Microsoft, they not only listen to you, but they will fix your problems if they can. We've received non-public fixes, some made especially for problems we've discovered. We're not a Fortune 500 company either.
I don't know if I can stop laughing long enough to respond to this statement.
And how much does it cost to hire a full time OSS expert programmer to support the OSS software I use? $100,000 a year plus all of the benefits? And will one be enough? If I'm running some mission critical software on Linux, I would want more than one on staff, considering people go on vacations, have medical emergencies, etc. So now we're talking $200,000+ a year and up? And that's just for supporting Linux. Suppose I use Apache also. Can't you see how expensive this kind of thing can get? I'll tell you, we spend much less paying Microsoft to support all of our Microsoft products than we would to hire even 5 full-time programmers. And we get the people who really know the product.
Hope that clears things up for you.
The argument is made consistently on Slashdot that theft is the physical removal of someone elses property. It means they no longer have their original property. If you want to make the argument that they are being "deprived" of something that legally they have the right to (through the GPL), then it is quite easy to say that the record and movie companies are being "deprived" of the revenue they should be receiving for those who copy their content.
Huh? I've had no problem using the latest version of AdBlock with the latest version of Firefox. Just make sure to completely remove the extention, then uninstall the old version of FireFox, then reinstall both. Seemed to work for me.
Personally, I don't. But the company I work for does. We pay big bucks to get premium support from Microsoft. If we have some issue with their software, and I take it to them, they'll give me a fix. It's happened before.
As I've said, if you make the argument that "theft" has taken place because you are deprived of something that you normally feel you would have had, then you can make that same argument with people who "steal" music and movies.
But you might say, these people wouldn't have purchased the music or movies anyway! So the recording studios aren't out anything! Well, do you honestly think that these scumbags working on CherryOS would have made any changes/improvements ot the code if they were to abide by the GPL?
My point is that neither action is theft, not that the actions are the same.
Your comment is very interesting because I'm guessing by the wording of your comment that you obviously prefer the Apache/OSS way. But when I read your comment, I think I'd rather trust my systems to be running on Microsoft. Why? Because I'd rather do business with a group that's motivated by money because I have something to bargain with. If it's just a group who does it for fun, who's to say they won't just stop? Or find another interest? What then?
Note: Answering my question, "Well, you have the source code, so you can do whatever you want!!1!" only tells me you probably have very little real world experience.
There is a difference, but it doesn't mean what they are doing is theft, or that it is anymore theft than making copies of content/software you don't own.
When one makes the statement that people who copy movies/music/software aren't "stealing" because they are making a copy of existing code and the original content authors are not out anything (because they still have their original copy), they are making the distinction that it only becomes theft if you remove the original from the hands of the owner. In this case, the PearPC guys still have all of their own original code. They aren't "out" anything except possibly for the credit of their original work. How are they "losing" out on anything by the CherryOS guys copying their code? If you say they are out potential revenues from selling their code, then you are acknowledging that the ??AA has a point, aren't you?
In both cases, people are releasing their intellectual property to the world under certain conditions. In one case, they say you can use the property however you want, you just can't give copies of it to other people. In the other, they say you can use the property however you want, and you can give it to other people, but only if you also do it in it's original form (source code). Both parties have the right to put whatever conditions they wish on redistribution, no?
I can't believe that each week the use of technology on the show 24 gets worse and worse. People complain about CSI, but the stuff they do on 24 makes CSI look like a documentary.
Waaa, waaa! It's not theft it's copyright infringement. Waaa, waaa!