This problem doesn't just extend to GPL code. I saw a story on TV the other day (Dateline NBC or a similar show) about a company in Oregon that makes proprietary data acquisition devices. They found out that a company in China is making facsimilied copies of its entire device line -- right down to stealing their entire company website! (Apparently they just localized it to Chinese, I believe.) Anyway, the whole thing is a total sham, but they can't do a darn thing about it since they aren't located in the US.
There is a lot of bullshit around here. I've been a proud user of Outlook for about 3 years now (that's 3 versions -- I migrated from Eudora and Netscape Messenger) and I've never had a problem.
Let's just say I'm happy that Debian refused to install on my firewall box (couldn't see the NIC card -- sheesh!) -- It's running brand spankin' new OpenBSD 3.4, an upgrade from 3.3. It's nice not to have to worry:)
Not defending anyone here, but would you blame red hat if Diebold installed onto an ATM a stock off the shelf red hat distribution with none of the security holes patched? Would it be red hat's fault if someone used the ssh exploit and got their jollies off of rooting an ATM?
Yes, because most script kiddies know the internal workings of ATM application software.
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Actually I use GNOME as I've found it faster than KDE3 on the machines I mentioned. Unfortunately they are the only available Window Managers available from the login screen (haven't tried installing my own into my home directory though).
One thing that I now suspect, as someone else mentioned it, is NFS. Everything in that lab runs NFS; our home directories as well as mounted binaries. This could be part of the problem.
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Okay, that sentence that ends abruptly should read "easily in less than 200 MB."
Apparently the "Plain Old Text" option really means "Eat anything that resembles HTML"
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Here's a reality check:
*All* new Linux distributions (e.g., the Mandrake 9.x or Lycoris) will run like shit on shit hardware. There seems to be some sort of misconception in the Linux community (psychologists call this "denial") in which its consistuents seem to think that (graphical) Linux will always run good on crap hardware -- in fact, it will run 908345 times faster than Windows!
Wrong.
At my university, I'm forced to use a Linux lab for one of my classes... unfortunately this lab is not blessed with brand new computers like the other 99.98% of computer labs on campus. No, these machines are Pentium II-400s with 128 MB of RAM. They are running RedHat 9 (kernel 2.4.20). Not too shabby, eh?
That is, till you log in to GNOME or KDE. It's slowdown city. We are talking I-can-sometimes-watch-windows-paint-across-the-scr een slow. Try and start up Mozilla? It takes about 20 seconds. No joke. Cripes, even gnome-terminal or Konsole take at least 5 seconds to start up. And in the swap meantime swap all the swap swap machine is doing is swapping to disk. Swap swap swap (get the point?;) This is unacceptable. Linux needs a fast, NON-resource hogging, non-skinnable desktop that doesn't lack in the functionality area. Think iceWM, except not as half-assed when it comes to features.
Many Linux zealots like to talk about Windows bloat -- meanwhile there is precipitously more bloat in Linux software! (Kind of like that MS Office == bloat FUD that you see around here a lot. Just look at OpenOffice.org -- HAH!)
So what options does this leave you with? You obviously can't use KDE or GNOME on old hardware. Use twm? Yeah, right.
Win NT 4.0 still comes in handy for situations like these. I had to do an install recently where a machine had to be available 24/7 yet run on crap hardware. NT4 has an extremely fast, functional desktop, and it will easily install in It's a SHOCK to me that school districts haven't at least started putting in an "Operating Systems 101" class in high school for everyone to learn about alternative OS's. Linux, Macintosh OS, Solaris, FreeBSD, UNIX, just imagine how much that would open up the minds of those kids!
Well, here is some more shocking information: 98% of high school students don't give a rat's ass. Those that do already know. And there is a good number of school districts that have standardized on MacOS. Why do high schoolers have to learn about Solaris, etc? We're talking about people that have trouble grasping the concept of MS Word, so I think appreciating the benefits of Korn Shell can be left for some other time.
Unfortunately you seem to be a bit short sighted (evidenced by your association of "IT guys who don't know what they're doing" with "not using Linux") so this suggestion may be of limited use to you...
It just needs the DVD decoding codec... so yes, I assume if you install something like Videolan's port for Win32 or something, it should work. However, since I haven't attempted such a thing take that last sentence with a grain of salt.
Windows Media Player can't play DVDs without a third party DVD decoder anyway. You can use it to watch DVDs, but only after installing something like PowerDVD or WinDVD.
I never claimed that my slashdot posts were totally correct when it comes to spelling; however, if I was a scammer I would at least run a spell checker, first. I guess that was the main point... sure they are from overseas, but I think English spell checking software exists in Soviet Russia...
You can boot other OSes from the Windows boot loader easily... you just need a copy of the boot sector (first 512 bytes) in a file at the root of the C:\ drive. See here on how to configure NT Loader to boot Linux.
Well, RedHat can't decode the MP3 codec without downloading additional software after installation... you'd think something like THAT is standard issue these days.
Ahh, I may have misunderstood the original intent... he did seem dead-on about imaging software, not backup software, which is why I thought otherwise.
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This problem doesn't just extend to GPL code. I saw a story on TV the other day (Dateline NBC or a similar show) about a company in Oregon that makes proprietary data acquisition devices. They found out that a company in China is making facsimilied copies of its entire device line -- right down to stealing their entire company website! (Apparently they just localized it to Chinese, I believe.) Anyway, the whole thing is a total sham, but they can't do a darn thing about it since they aren't located in the US.
Hell yeah, my boy is wicked smahht!
I laughed when they mentioned the volume mounted with all those "old suid binaries..."
;)
Shouldn't they have been mounted nosuid... like is default in OpenBSD
There is a lot of bullshit around here. I've been a proud user of Outlook for about 3 years now (that's 3 versions -- I migrated from Eudora and Netscape Messenger) and I've never had a problem.
:)
Let's just say I'm happy that Debian refused to install on my firewall box (couldn't see the NIC card -- sheesh!) -- It's running brand spankin' new OpenBSD 3.4, an upgrade from 3.3. It's nice not to have to worry
For example, on XP, the Personal Web Server is enabled by default
;)
No, it's not. I'd suggest you stop getting your Windows information from a hippie on a bicycle
and MS for leaving it enabled by default.
Not defending anyone here, but would you blame red hat if Diebold installed onto an ATM a stock off the shelf red hat distribution with none of the security holes patched? Would it be red hat's fault if someone used the ssh exploit and got their jollies off of rooting an ATM?
Yes, because most script kiddies know the internal workings of ATM application software.
Actually I use GNOME as I've found it faster than KDE3 on the machines I mentioned. Unfortunately they are the only available Window Managers available from the login screen (haven't tried installing my own into my home directory though).
One thing that I now suspect, as someone else mentioned it, is NFS. Everything in that lab runs NFS; our home directories as well as mounted binaries. This could be part of the problem.
Okay, that sentence that ends abruptly should read "easily in less than 200 MB."
Apparently the "Plain Old Text" option really means "Eat anything that resembles HTML"
Here's a reality check:
r een slow. Try and start up Mozilla? It takes about 20 seconds. No joke. Cripes, even gnome-terminal or Konsole take at least 5 seconds to start up. And in the swap meantime swap all the swap swap machine is doing is swapping to disk. Swap swap swap (get the point? ;) This is unacceptable. Linux needs a fast, NON-resource hogging, non-skinnable desktop that doesn't lack in the functionality area. Think iceWM, except not as half-assed when it comes to features.
*All* new Linux distributions (e.g., the Mandrake 9.x or Lycoris) will run like shit on shit hardware. There seems to be some sort of misconception in the Linux community (psychologists call this "denial") in which its consistuents seem to think that (graphical) Linux will always run good on crap hardware -- in fact, it will run 908345 times faster than Windows!
Wrong.
At my university, I'm forced to use a Linux lab for one of my classes... unfortunately this lab is not blessed with brand new computers like the other 99.98% of computer labs on campus. No, these machines are Pentium II-400s with 128 MB of RAM. They are running RedHat 9 (kernel 2.4.20). Not too shabby, eh?
That is, till you log in to GNOME or KDE. It's slowdown city. We are talking I-can-sometimes-watch-windows-paint-across-the-sc
Many Linux zealots like to talk about Windows bloat -- meanwhile there is precipitously more bloat in Linux software! (Kind of like that MS Office == bloat FUD that you see around here a lot. Just look at OpenOffice.org -- HAH!)
So what options does this leave you with? You obviously can't use KDE or GNOME on old hardware. Use twm? Yeah, right.
Win NT 4.0 still comes in handy for situations like these. I had to do an install recently where a machine had to be available 24/7 yet run on crap hardware. NT4 has an extremely fast, functional desktop, and it will easily install in It's a SHOCK to me that school districts haven't at least started putting in an "Operating Systems 101" class in high school for everyone to learn about alternative OS's. Linux, Macintosh OS, Solaris, FreeBSD, UNIX, just imagine how much that would open up the minds of those kids!
Well, here is some more shocking information: 98% of high school students don't give a rat's ass. Those that do already know. And there is a good number of school districts that have standardized on MacOS. Why do high schoolers have to learn about Solaris, etc? We're talking about people that have trouble grasping the concept of MS Word, so I think appreciating the benefits of Korn Shell can be left for some other time.
Unfortunately you seem to be a bit short sighted (evidenced by your association of "IT guys who don't know what they're doing" with "not using Linux") so this suggestion may be of limited use to you...
You guessed it... Frank Stallone
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It just needs the DVD decoding codec... so yes, I assume if you install something like Videolan's port for Win32 or something, it should work. However, since I haven't attempted such a thing take that last sentence with a grain of salt.
Windows Media Player can't play DVDs without a third party DVD decoder anyway. You can use it to watch DVDs, but only after installing something like PowerDVD or WinDVD.
You need to turn off "search from the address bar" and change your default search engine.
;)
Netscape defaults to Netscape search too, y'know
You just easily and quickly proved how much of an idiot this Harry Fletcher really is...:)
Offtopic? It's clearly in this picture... right next to the "Anarchist's Cookbook"
;)
Ack! A terrorist!
I never claimed that my slashdot posts were totally correct when it comes to spelling; however, if I was a scammer I would at least run a spell checker, first. I guess that was the main point... sure they are from overseas, but I think English spell checking software exists in Soviet Russia...
One would think that if you want to run a successful scam that looks like it came from a legitamate source, you wouldn't word e-mails like
"and PIN that you use on ATM."
"becaurse some of our members no longer have access to their email addresses and we must verify it" (misspelling / run on sentence)
My bad... I misread his post. Yeah, this guy likewise used his iPod in what the industry calls an "unsupported configuration..."
You can boot other OSes from the Windows boot loader easily... you just need a copy of the boot sector (first 512 bytes) in a file at the root of the C:\ drive. See here on how to configure NT Loader to boot Linux.
Well, RedHat can't decode the MP3 codec without downloading additional software after installation... you'd think something like THAT is standard issue these days.
Similarly, this is why Keith cannot be killed by conventional weapons...
You seem confused. What, exactly, are you trying to do? Back-up systems, or image them for rollout?
Ahh, I may have misunderstood the original intent... he did seem dead-on about imaging software, not backup software, which is why I thought otherwise.