This would put you in that same class of people who download albums off of P2P so that they can listen to the whole thing before buying a copy. While there might be a small percentage of people who do that (certainly not anybody I know -- all of my friends who use P2P do so to save money),... Hi shark72, I'm Matt. I use P2P almost exclusively to download music to check out new acts to see if I want to buy their recordings. Full albums, too. Too bad we can never be friends:-(
I vote Kjella gets to write the summaries for all RIAA-lawsuit related topics from now on. 4 sentences, and I wouldn't have had to RTFA OR wade through the inevitable "its theft.. no it isnt.. yes it is... is not.. is too" posts.
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Just a minor clarification....
You forgot live shows. Do you claim that live shows should be just as unlawful as element 4 because like element 4, they don't result in a lot of revenue going back to the label?
Most music venues of any significance have blanket licenses with the performing rights' societies (ASCAP, BMI, SESAC) to cover royalties from public performances of songs by the bands playing there. Revenue is ultimately distributed to the owners of the copyrights in the various songs that are performed... whether they were writted/owned by the bands or by the bands' labels or by others.
teenagers pick up guitars to impress chicks, not to become millionaires
if in the future artisits don't become millionaires, do you really think people will stop making music? as if fame and women aren't incentive enough?
A long time ago, THIS teenager picked up a guitar because it was the only way to make the sounds he was hearing in his head come out through a set of speakers.
Money, fame, chicks: those would all be very nice (if anyone is offering) but the lack thereof isn't going to stop me from continuing to make these sounds. At least it hasn't yet;-)
Am I correct that ind-music.com only sells downloads? That each artist gets to encode and upload the Ogg files themselves? With PayPal-only payments to the artists?
CDBaby handles physical CD sales directly, and only indirectly handles digital sales through iTunes (and MANY other outlets.. we've got sales on Rhapsody, MusicNet, MusicMatch, Napster...). Physical CD sales was big selling point for us. $35 is a typical setup fee for such services... not the best, not the worst, but very competitive for web sites that ALSO handle physical order fulfillment, CC processing, etc. They will pay me by check, which I like as well (for the record-keeping paper trail) or via electronic means.
But also be aware.. you'll may get a lower % of your sales through ind-music than you might get elsewhere. From their FAQ:
Q. Does a band/artist ever make more on the sale of their music? A. Yes, when a band/artist sells more than 2,000 songs their earning % increases by 1%. So when you sign up, you make 40% of the net profit but after you eclipse 2,000 songs you then begin to earn 41% with the percentage increasing by 1% for every 2,000 songs. Eventually the band/artist can earn up to a maximum of 50% of net profit (by this point the band/artist is making MUCH more than we are, but they also will have earned it)
So you get 40% of what ind-music.com gets, which is your selling price - PayPal transaction fees. To get the same 65c I get from an iTunes/CDBaby sale I'd need to set my price at at least $1.63 + the PayPal cut, unless I did the math wrong. which is possible.
Not too keen on the ind-music.com payment policies, which would require PayPal. Also not sure but it looks like ind-music.com asks you to give them the exclusive right to sell your downloads. I could've misread the FAQ and Terms of Agreement on that.. its never spelled out clearly. Also also, and I feel guilty for even making it a point: ind-music.com has 18 artists. Is it new? The About Us page says they've been around since 2002.
I know I'm sounding like a CDBaby shill and I don't really mean to, but for what they provide it really is a good deal.
65 cents, actually. Apple pays CDBaby 0.70 per song, CDBaby take a 5-cent cut. Pretty cool deal for us indie bands that don't have enough of a presence (yet!) to get Apple's attention by ourselves.
The Flying Spaghetti Monster begs to differ with your "evolution" interpretation. He told me to tell you that you are wrong... he designed men to vary more widely than women because watching their foibles is highly entertaining. He designed women to be more stable than men so that more of them would be around to cook pasta.
What if a human volunteered his inital cells to grow meat in a vat? No cruelty. You can't get more ethical than that, and you would still get to eat Matt.
And they don't have monitors. So, if you're sitting in front of them doing "nothing", then you're just watching the lights on the panel blinkulate and flashify.
You could fit that in about 5% of Texas- not an insignificant amount of land, but doable
I hear there's a big ranch out near Crawford... owner's rarely ever home anyway... he's a friendly sort, big environmentalist; surely he'd help out....
Ten Hands splintered into MANY other local and not-so-local acts. For example, drummer Earl Harvin start his own rock band (Rubberbullet), wrote and toured with Seal, and has one of the better jazz combos in N. Texas. Paul Slavens went on to play in various electic bands and do a LOT of solo performing, and now has a very cool music show on Sunday nights on the local NPR outlet (FM 90.1, KERA). Mike Dillon went on to Billygoat, and is now in Hairy ApesBMX.
I wouldn't consider Napster a "fad". An Internet fad comes along, becomes insanely popular for no apparent reason, then goes away all by itself. Napster came along, because insanely popular because people could get free music, then went away with the stroke of a judge's pen.
And anyway: WTF is "Mahir" ? Never heard of it/him/her/that.
But, instead, I'll simply point out that Wizards of the Coast is famous for Magic and buying TSR, and INfamous for the swining orgies and wife-swapping that were rampant in the company in years gone by.
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I wonder if there were eyepatches and wooden legs in the cave.
These weren't hobbits.
Arrr! These be pirates!
This would put you in that same class of people who download albums off of P2P so that they can listen to the whole thing before buying a copy. While there might be a small percentage of people who do that (certainly not anybody I know -- all of my friends who use P2P do so to save money),... :-(
Hi shark72, I'm Matt. I use P2P almost exclusively to download music to check out new acts to see if I want to buy their recordings. Full albums, too. Too bad we can never be friends
I vote Kjella gets to write the summaries for all RIAA-lawsuit related topics from now on. 4 sentences, and I wouldn't have had to RTFA OR wade through the inevitable "its theft .. no it isnt .. yes it is ... is not .. is too" posts.
Just a minor clarification....
... whether they were writted/owned by the bands or by the bands' labels or by others.
You forgot live shows. Do you claim that live shows should be just as unlawful as element 4 because like element 4, they don't result in a lot of revenue going back to the label?
Most music venues of any significance have blanket licenses with the performing rights' societies (ASCAP, BMI, SESAC) to cover royalties from public performances of songs by the bands playing there. Revenue is ultimately distributed to the owners of the copyrights in the various songs that are performed
Money, fame, chicks: those would all be very nice (if anyone is offering) but the lack thereof isn't going to stop me from continuing to make these sounds. At least it hasn't yet
Google outta partner with SETI.
+ from+alpha+centauri&btnG=Google+Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=space+aliens
Seems a lot simpler than the way we search now.
... are belong to one basket.
And since over 50% of the US population is obese (not just overweight, but obese which is more severe), I don't blame them.
... by count ;-)
Its actually less than 50%
70: PROFIT!
CDBaby handles physical CD sales directly, and only indirectly handles digital sales through iTunes (and MANY other outlets
But also be aware
So you get 40% of what ind-music.com gets, which is your selling price - PayPal transaction fees. To get the same 65c I get from an iTunes/CDBaby sale I'd need to set my price at at least $1.63 + the PayPal cut, unless I did the math wrong. which is possible.
Not too keen on the ind-music.com payment policies, which would require PayPal. Also not sure but it looks like ind-music.com asks you to give them the exclusive right to sell your downloads. I could've misread the FAQ and Terms of Agreement on that
I know I'm sounding like a CDBaby shill and I don't really mean to, but for what they provide it really is a good deal.
Agree 100% about flash buttons, believe me I feel your pain. If I had a dime for every time I'd told the rest of the band that flash==bad....
:-(
Me = the choir
65 cents, actually. Apple pays CDBaby 0.70 per song, CDBaby take a 5-cent cut. Pretty cool deal for us indie bands that don't have enough of a presence (yet!) to get Apple's attention by ourselves.
(yes, i am totally shameless: http://www.meetgoodwin.com/
The Flying Spaghetti Monster begs to differ with your "evolution" interpretation. He told me to tell you that you are wrong ... he designed men to vary more widely than women because watching their foibles is highly entertaining. He designed women to be more stable than men so that more of them would be around to cook pasta.
All I see now is blonde, brunette, redhead....
Ten Hands splintered into MANY other local and not-so-local acts. For example, drummer Earl Harvin start his own rock band (Rubberbullet), wrote and toured with Seal, and has one of the better jazz combos in N. Texas. Paul Slavens went on to play in various electic bands and do a LOT of solo performing, and now has a very cool music show on Sunday nights on the local NPR outlet (FM 90.1, KERA). Mike Dillon went on to Billygoat, and is now in Hairy ApesBMX.
g i?ARTISTID=863933&TMPL=LONG
http://www.mmguide.musicmatch.com/artist/artist.c
I wouldn't consider Napster a "fad". An Internet fad comes along, becomes insanely popular for no apparent reason, then goes away all by itself. Napster came along, because insanely popular because people could get free music, then went away with the stroke of a judge's pen.
And anyway: WTF is "Mahir" ? Never heard of it/him/her/that.
... frickin' mount this on a frickin' shark's head?
(Yes, I'm in a band, and no, I'm not going to whore it here.)
Actually, I've always considered objecting to a governmental agency intruding on my privacy and my personal life to be a very conservative position.