I reckon whatever method ends up being used should have a) smaller discs and b) protective casing.
Although there good in the way they hold lots and lots of quite quick to access information, I think CD's and DVD's are some of the crappiest pieces of technology about. There clunky, just to big to hold easily in your hand (escpecially if your female) and get scratched so, so easy its pathetic. What percentage of your games/music CD's from say 6 years ago isn't scratched?
The best format for holding such data I have seen was on that Sylvester Stallone movie "Demolition Man", at some point on that you see Sandra Bullock use something which is like 4 minidisc's stacked on top of each other.
"Very similiar to the Internet Explorer issue, but different content. Will the results be the same?"
This is probably a dumb question, but what actually happened in the netscape/microsoft anti-trust case. I remeber once Microsoft was being split up and then bush deciding not to (after they coincidently donated to his electoral fund) but surely something must have happened to prevent Microsoft doing the exact thing they are being accused of doing now.
These are very good points, afterall, everyone knows the reason Windows is virtually unchanged since version '95 is because there has been no widespread competition.
Surely in Open Source Development however there must be a more optimal solution where volumes of code and features don't have to be duplicated just because there developed in slightly different enviroments and the advantages of the various competition options can be atleast slightly combined?...without creating another project fork ofcourse!
I agree totally, the problem with a lot of forking in Open Source, is its not functionality/ideology based. Rather, all to often it is just down to independant projects working independantly.
Sure, independance has its good points, more competition leads to better software. But as stated, look at gnome and kde (although technically not forks, the same applies).
Both are virtually indentical to the end user in terms of features etc. yet both have had mountains of duplicate code doing the same thing in each, just a slightly different way.
Versions of Windows: About 5 Versions of Linux: Hundreds
Forking is a massive problem in OSS, the amount of hours that must be waisted by Open Source Developers basically duplicating code already written somewhere else for a virtually identical but slightly different project is depressing.
If only Linux code could be made more standardised, modular and encapsulated the world would be a better place.
I think Buzz Aldrin makes some very good points.
Nasa seems to be going through a very tough stage at the moment and through their own mis-management are only digging themselves deeper.
As Buzz points out, what point is there of making the design of the new space vehicles similar to that of the soyez capsules (apart from being able to put a 'made in the USA' sticker on it).
And what point is there of doing the same as what was done 35 years ago. The building of a spaceport however would provide huge benefits to mankind as it could serve as a in-space hub for all space missions.
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As a European I always find it amazing how Americans put up with forced surcharges, tips, service fees etc.
Surely the price of the goods/service should be the one on the label, not what it says on the label + tax + tip etc.
I think a strict prerequsite for any code to be deemed a winning entry is that it has strict standards compliance.
Everyone I speak to who doesn't like Linux says its because of the lack of standard UI issues. Sure, most these sort of issues are beyond the scope of the competition elements but it is still important that standards compliance (in every respect) be kept.
The results do seem to be particulary biased towards IIS, as a web developer who has worked with a lot of hosting companys etc., I know from experience that IIS does definatly not run on the kind of percentage of websites they claim.
If they are going to take into account website usage then although this would increase IIS's results for moderatly large websites, this would surely be made insignificant when you add all the mega websites like the BBC, AOL, CNN, GOOGLE, YAHOO etc... where virtually none of these sort of sites run IIS yet account for the large majority of www traffic.
I tried to point this out to them via there contact page however this produced a "page not found" error, obviuosly another demonstration of the quality of their work.
As an Australian I have absolutly no idea how much a pound weighs. I remeber hearing once a foot is about 1/3 a metre or something (whoever decided that length must have had very big feet) and an inch is twice a centimeter.
But thats about it. Once a country has switched to a logical mesauring system theres no real point learning the lengths of a wierd, inferior system only one country (out of countries that matter) on the other side of the world uses.
Is SCO now anything more than a Microsoft Puppet company to try and spread legal fears (and therefor decrease adoption) of Linux?
Why are companies allowewd to launch long legal threats with appeals after appeal (which if SCO listen to their Microsoft lawyers, will do again and again for the next few years) which are obviuosly going to fail just so they can hope to discredit the other party during the proceedings?
I played around with a Mac OS X computer (one of the cool looking 'lamp' ones) in PCworld the other day and was extremely impressed.
Personally I will stick to Linux because I like it but I think for a lot of novice computer uses currently using Windows because 'theres no other choice', I think should consider switching to Mac OS X.
I had always sort of them as being extremely expensive but the ones in the shop (which sells both Windows and Mac computers) were about the same price as the Windows ones.
The major problem is that as the sales guy explained to me, people don't realise a 800mhz G4 is far better than say a 1.5Ghz Pentium however when people see the 800mhz mac costing more than the 1.4 ghz PC they obviously go for the PC.
Kind of reminds me of the old saying that if it wasn't for Apple's pathetic marketing practises they would be the dominant software company of today (whether that is good or bad I don't know).
However, I think that for novice users who arn't quite ready to use Linux as a desktop (in its current form), then they should be recommended a Mac as they are atleast half way there and all competition is good for the computer industry, better than everyone dominated by one large monopoly anyway.
I study at a university in the UK where they have a lab full of about 600 Linux desktop PCs, in a lab down the hall there are about 100 Windows XP pc's.
Being quite friednly with the support staff I have on a couple of occasions asked them whether they prefer Linux or Windows and they ALL say that the 100 Windows PC's take up about 80% of their time and the 600 Linux comps only about 10% of there time (the other 10% is persumably spent doing what IT support staff do best...sitting about whinging about dumb newbies).
From personal experience I have never once had a single small prob with any of the Linux computers...wish I could say the same about my WinXP computer at home which just 3 days ago suddenly decided logging in was a minimum 20 minute operation!
An IT supplier paying for an independant IT audit?
The chances of such an audit saying anything but Microsoft is cheaper is like research by the Dr. Pepper makers stating that actually Coca-Cola does actually taste better than their drink.
Do you not think this could be due to your own lack of experience setting up Linux systems?
Personally I (and the vast majority of support staff I have ever spoken to) find that Windows 2k boxes are far more likely to break down. This is also backed up by the vast majority of research which points to Linux being a much more stable OS.
I think the reason Linux is not the dominant OS in large companies at the moment is not down to marketing or technology but down to consultants who can't be bothered to sit down and learn a new system and would rather just slap an extra few hundred thousand dollars onto their fee for "software costs" rather than investigate switching to Linux.
Expensive commerical software is an unnessicary cost for businesses that hurts the economy. If businesses did not have to plough as much money into buying new software for all their computers they would have much more money to use for other far better economy growth inducing items like wages, cheaper products and expansion.
At the University of Birmingham, England, the computer science department has hundred's of desktop computers all running Linux with Openoffice and Mozilla and the few other applications that make an excellent, yet extremely cost-effective replacement for expensive Microsoft Windows and Office software.
If many businesses were to follow these lines the total software and support costs would be reduced dramatically.
I think although these reports are very useful and helpful in allowing businesses to assess the benefits of switching to Open Source software, not enough of them hear about the actual reports.
Unlike the commercial software companies, mail outs are not produced and multi-million dollar advertising campaigns are not conducted.
I think Open Source in general would benefit greatly if information regarding it could be distributed more widely so to match the commerical companies.
No-one should use gator as regardless of what they say, it sends information about yourself back to them.
I once accidentally installed it because of their very misleading advertising and it took me ages to uninstall the annoying piece of software which does virtually nothing but try to inflict their adverts on you.
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I reckon whatever method ends up being used should have a) smaller discs and b) protective casing.
Although there good in the way they hold lots and lots of quite quick to access information, I think CD's and DVD's are some of the crappiest pieces of technology about. There clunky, just to big to hold easily in your hand (escpecially if your female) and get scratched so, so easy its pathetic. What percentage of your games/music CD's from say 6 years ago isn't scratched?
The best format for holding such data I have seen was on that Sylvester Stallone movie "Demolition Man", at some point on that you see Sandra Bullock use something which is like 4 minidisc's stacked on top of each other.
This is probably a dumb question, but what actually happened in the netscape/microsoft anti-trust case. I remeber once Microsoft was being split up and then bush deciding not to (after they coincidently donated to his electoral fund) but surely something must have happened to prevent Microsoft doing the exact thing they are being accused of doing now.
But Evolution already is replacing Outlook in many places where it has run.
In terms of functionality it is definatly on par. In terms of costand most importantly security, Outlook can't compete.
I bet the virus writers are cursing!!
Congrats to the developers. Personally, I think Evolution is about the most professional Open Source Application around.
These are very good points, afterall, everyone knows the reason Windows is virtually unchanged since version '95 is because there has been no widespread competition.
...without creating another project fork ofcourse!
Surely in Open Source Development however there must be a more optimal solution where volumes of code and features don't have to be duplicated just because there developed in slightly different enviroments and the advantages of the various competition options can be atleast slightly combined?
I agree totally, the problem with a lot of forking in Open Source, is its not functionality/ideology based. Rather, all to often it is just down to independant projects working independantly.
Sure, independance has its good points, more competition leads to better software. But as stated, look at gnome and kde (although technically not forks, the same applies).
Both are virtually indentical to the end user in terms of features etc. yet both have had mountains of duplicate code doing the same thing in each, just a slightly different way.
Versions of Windows: About 5
Versions of Linux: Hundreds
Forking is a massive problem in OSS, the amount of hours that must be waisted by Open Source Developers basically duplicating code already written somewhere else for a virtually identical but slightly different project is depressing.
If only Linux code could be made more standardised, modular and encapsulated the world would be a better place.
I think Buzz Aldrin makes some very good points. Nasa seems to be going through a very tough stage at the moment and through their own mis-management are only digging themselves deeper. As Buzz points out, what point is there of making the design of the new space vehicles similar to that of the soyez capsules (apart from being able to put a 'made in the USA' sticker on it). And what point is there of doing the same as what was done 35 years ago. The building of a spaceport however would provide huge benefits to mankind as it could serve as a in-space hub for all space missions.
As a European I always find it amazing how Americans put up with forced surcharges, tips, service fees etc.
Surely the price of the goods/service should be the one on the label, not what it says on
the label + tax + tip etc.
I use Mozilla on Windows mainly because I like tabs. I've not found it to be any slower than IE at all.
You must be using a very old computer
I think a strict prerequsite for any code to be deemed a winning entry is that it has strict standards compliance. Everyone I speak to who doesn't like Linux says its because of the lack of standard UI issues. Sure, most these sort of issues are beyond the scope of the competition elements but it is still important that standards compliance (in every respect) be kept.
I find yahoo to be much better than hotmail, you don't get nearly as much spam and you get more disk space for free.
The results do seem to be particulary biased towards IIS, as a web developer who has worked with a lot of hosting companys etc., I know from experience that IIS does definatly not run on the kind of percentage of websites they claim.
If they are going to take into account website usage then although this would increase IIS's results for moderatly large websites, this would surely be made insignificant when you add all the mega websites like the BBC, AOL, CNN, GOOGLE, YAHOO etc... where virtually none of these sort of sites run IIS yet account for the large majority of www traffic.
I tried to point this out to them via there contact page however this produced a "page not found" error, obviuosly another demonstration of the quality of their work.
As an Australian I have absolutly no idea how much a pound weighs. I remeber hearing once a foot is about 1/3 a metre or something (whoever decided that length must have had very big feet) and an inch is twice a centimeter.
But thats about it. Once a country has switched to a logical mesauring system theres no real point learning the lengths of a wierd, inferior system only one country (out of countries that matter) on the other side of the world uses.
I think they are using Evolution over Mozilla for the same reason most companies use Outlook over Outlook express.
...I've always just persumed its because they show the local weather on the welcome screen.
Not sure why Evolution & Outlook are meant to be better
Is SCO now anything more than a Microsoft Puppet company to try and spread legal fears (and therefor decrease adoption) of Linux?
Why are companies allowewd to launch long legal threats with appeals after appeal (which if SCO listen to their Microsoft lawyers, will do again and again for the next few years) which are obviuosly going to fail just so they can hope to discredit the other party during the proceedings?
I played around with a Mac OS X computer (one of the cool looking 'lamp' ones) in PCworld the other day and was extremely impressed.
Personally I will stick to Linux because I like it but I think for a lot of novice computer uses currently using Windows because 'theres no other choice', I think should consider switching to Mac OS X.
I had always sort of them as being extremely expensive but the ones in the shop (which sells both Windows and Mac computers) were about the same price as the Windows ones.
The major problem is that as the sales guy explained to me, people don't realise a 800mhz G4 is far better than say a 1.5Ghz Pentium however when people see the 800mhz mac costing more than the 1.4 ghz PC they obviously go for the PC.
Kind of reminds me of the old saying that if it wasn't for Apple's pathetic marketing practises they would be the dominant software company of today (whether that is good or bad I don't know).
However, I think that for novice users who arn't quite ready to use Linux as a desktop (in its current form), then they should be recommended a Mac as they are atleast half way there and all competition is good for the computer industry, better than everyone dominated by one large monopoly anyway.
Why is the cost of use less for windows?
...sitting about whinging about dumb newbies).
...wish I could say the same about my WinXP computer at home which just 3 days ago suddenly decided logging in was a minimum 20 minute operation!
I study at a university in the UK where they have a lab full of about 600 Linux desktop PCs, in a lab down the hall there are about 100 Windows XP pc's.
Being quite friednly with the support staff I have on a couple of occasions asked them whether they prefer Linux or Windows and they ALL say that the 100 Windows PC's take up about 80% of their time and the 600 Linux comps only about 10% of there time (the other 10% is persumably spent doing what IT support staff do best
From personal experience I have never once had a single small prob with any of the Linux computers
An IT supplier paying for an independant IT audit? The chances of such an audit saying anything but Microsoft is cheaper is like research by the Dr. Pepper makers stating that actually Coca-Cola does actually taste better than their drink.
Do you not think this could be due to your own lack of experience setting up Linux systems? Personally I (and the vast majority of support staff I have ever spoken to) find that Windows 2k boxes are far more likely to break down. This is also backed up by the vast majority of research which points to Linux being a much more stable OS. I think the reason Linux is not the dominant OS in large companies at the moment is not down to marketing or technology but down to consultants who can't be bothered to sit down and learn a new system and would rather just slap an extra few hundred thousand dollars onto their fee for "software costs" rather than investigate switching to Linux.
The pdf document in the summary is in English
Expensive commerical software is an unnessicary cost for businesses that hurts the economy. If businesses did not have to plough as much money into buying new software for all their computers they would have much more money to use for other far better economy growth inducing items like wages, cheaper products and expansion.
At the University of Birmingham, England, the computer science department has hundred's of desktop computers all running Linux with Openoffice and Mozilla and the few other applications that make an excellent, yet extremely cost-effective replacement for expensive Microsoft Windows and Office software.
If many businesses were to follow these lines the total software and support costs would be reduced dramatically.
I think although these reports are very useful and helpful in allowing businesses to assess the benefits of switching to Open Source software, not enough of them hear about the actual reports.
Unlike the commercial software companies, mail outs are not produced and multi-million dollar advertising campaigns are not conducted.
I think Open Source in general would benefit greatly if information regarding it could be distributed more widely so to match the commerical companies.
No-one should use gator as regardless of what they say, it sends information about yourself back to them. I once accidentally installed it because of their very misleading advertising and it took me ages to uninstall the annoying piece of software which does virtually nothing but try to inflict their adverts on you.