You are correct. The Atari 800XL was way ahead of the Commodore 64, and this is fact not opinion.
The Atari 800XL was capable of displaying near-VGA graphics! You could buy a handheld scanner and digitize photos. And it could take digital audio samples of music and sound and play them back. All before the year 1986.
The Commodore 64 couldn't do that. It was sort of a weakened, cheapened version of the Atari 8-bits, just so Commodore could sell more at a lower cost than Atari's computers in the early 1980s. Just look at the Commodore 64 commercials of the wet kid at the bus stop who didn't have his homework because he didn't have a computer. That prompted many parents to go out and buy C64's for their kids so they wouldn't be left behind.
Atari computers on the other hand touted advanced graphics and sound capabilities that the C64 couldn't do back in the early 1980s.
It took until about the mid-1990s for any IBM PC / Microsoft Windows capable PC with a 486 inside to equal / match the 1983 Atari 800XL's capabilities, and it was still about 5 to 10 times as expensive.
It just goes to show you that a lot of anthropology is made up bull-crap. And opinions. Yet it is fascinating to imagine what it was like. There are just too many variables, as described in the post I am replying to. Whatever!
Here's another technological front that the Nazis helped to pioneer:
The streamlined ability to choose/select/filter people in society who are "undesirable" and eliminate ("cleanse") them from planet Earth by tatooing serial numbers on their arms, corresponding them to IBM data punch cards, and sending them off on synchronized trains to the preselected prison, work, or death camps.
This cleansing process is much more quick and efficient than current methods such as imposing fines, or denying people benefits in society in order to force them to die off slowly and painfully. Finding newer and better ways to punish people for things that aren't all that bad, just against a money and power holder's agenda. It all builds on the past, or sometimes, concurrently with other paths of the past like this alleged nazi nuke.
It started in 1988 when I took my Sony Walkman cassette recorder and tried to figure out how to play it in my dad's car, which had no tape player then, just an AM/FM radio.
At the store in that year I found a device that plugs into the cigarette lighter called "The Sound Sender", for $20.
One end plugs into the cigarette lighter, and the other end is a standard mini-headphone jack. That jack can plug into my Walkman cassette player. Then later, I used it with my CD player or minidisc. And now of course it works with my portable MP3 device. (It sends sound from any device with a mini-headphone jack output).
When sound is piped through it, it goes through the electrical system of the car, and "broadcasts" a signal on the FM radio dial I choose, between 104.9 and 105.9 FM !!!
Then I tune the car's radio to that signal, and wallah! I can perfectly hear my music device's sound through the car's radio no matter what car it is.
The reason I say it is like "road casting", is because since it pipes it through the car's electrical system, it is actually giving off this signal from the car.
The sound signal can be picked up by cars driving nearby on their radios!
I have not seen a device like this for sale for quite some time. But it works! Not for a 30 mile radius, but at least for a few car lengths' radius.
Most people I know buy CDs of artists that are worth buying a whole CD for.. Stuff like the Beatles albums for example, are worthy of listening to in the best sound quality possible, in the exact way the artist intended which ended up influencing more musicians. For example the latest George Harrison album "Brainwashed" that came out, I had the mp3's and listened to the album. But when I bought the deluxe package version of "Brainwashed", it was as if Harrison himself prepared the package for me.. goodies like a guitar pick, poster and DVD came with it. Plus the goth-black packaging gives an eerieness to the proceedings. The sound quality was very noticeably poor on the 160kbps MP3s I had gotten in advance, making the CD a better experience all around.
You get what you pay for.
Also. Can MP3s be worth anything? The more people stop buying CDs, the more my collection is going to be worth and that's fine with me.
Original read/write audio cylinders from the late 1880s/1890s and prerecorded cylinders from that time period (of some of the very first audio recordings) are worth a lot of money.
Anyone remember seeing the numbers tattooed onto arms of victims of Nazi concentration camps in documentaries showing actual WWII film footage?
The films in black and white where a crowd of liberated prisoners stand with their sleeves rolled up, showing their number. Each one of those numbers corresponded with an IBM data punch card.
After the war, hundreds of thousands of these punch cards were discovered in the office buildings of the camps. In particular the Auschwitz camp in Poland, which is now a museum, now has on display these cards of victims who perished there. This comes at around the same time a book is published detailing IBM's role in the Holocaust, "IBM and the Holocaust: The Strategic Alliance Between Nazi Germany and America's Most Powerful Corporation" by Edwin Black.
The Nazis needed to be able to better select, sort, classify and track data on their concentration camp victims. IBM came in with their solution - punch cards were the medium used to store data corresponding with an ID number tattooed onto each victim's forearm. These punch cards were run through a Hollerith tabulator machine.
The Hollerith machine, which was used since the late 19th century to tabulate and alphabetize census data, made rounding up victims, tallying deaths, and overall organizing the war effort extremely efficient. For example, Hole 3 signified homosexual, and Hole 8 designated a Jew. This technology was a precursor, and was a basic building block of IBM personal computers that emerged in the 1980s. Technology that now is used to track, select, classify and sort people today - through the internet?
It makes me wonder why IBM initially didn't want to get into the home computer market and allowed companies like Atari and Commodore to have a crack at ruling the desktop. Atari and then Commodore both tried doing it with computers able to do advanced graphics and sounds. Yet Microsoft ensured the technology of the IBM PC would survive. The technology of the punch card in every user's home. Could it be some sort of conspiracy surviving through the ages?
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You are correct. The Atari 800XL was way ahead of the Commodore 64, and this is fact not opinion.
The Atari 800XL was capable of displaying near-VGA graphics! You could buy a handheld scanner and digitize photos. And it could take digital audio samples of music and sound and play them back. All before the year 1986.
The Commodore 64 couldn't do that. It was sort of a weakened, cheapened version of the Atari 8-bits, just so Commodore could sell more at a lower cost than Atari's computers in the early 1980s. Just look at the Commodore 64 commercials of the wet kid at the bus stop who didn't have his homework because he didn't have a computer. That prompted many parents to go out and buy C64's for their kids so they wouldn't be left behind.
Atari computers on the other hand touted advanced graphics and sound capabilities that the C64 couldn't do back in the early 1980s.
It took until about the mid-1990s for any IBM PC / Microsoft Windows capable PC with a 486 inside to equal / match the 1983 Atari 800XL's capabilities, and it was still about 5 to 10 times as expensive.
It just goes to show you that a lot of anthropology is made up bull-crap. And opinions. Yet it is fascinating to imagine what it was like. There are just too many variables, as described in the post I am replying to. Whatever!
Here's another technological front that the Nazis helped to pioneer: The streamlined ability to choose/select/filter people in society who are "undesirable" and eliminate ("cleanse") them from planet Earth by tatooing serial numbers on their arms, corresponding them to IBM data punch cards, and sending them off on synchronized trains to the preselected prison, work, or death camps. This cleansing process is much more quick and efficient than current methods such as imposing fines, or denying people benefits in society in order to force them to die off slowly and painfully. Finding newer and better ways to punish people for things that aren't all that bad, just against a money and power holder's agenda. It all builds on the past, or sometimes, concurrently with other paths of the past like this alleged nazi nuke.
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It started in 1988 when I took my Sony Walkman cassette recorder and tried to figure out how to play it in my dad's car, which had no tape player then, just an AM/FM radio.
At the store in that year I found a device that plugs into the cigarette lighter called "The Sound Sender", for $20.
One end plugs into the cigarette lighter, and the other end is a standard mini-headphone jack. That jack can plug into my Walkman cassette player. Then later, I used it with my CD player or minidisc. And now of course it works with my portable MP3 device. (It sends sound from any device with a mini-headphone jack output).
When sound is piped through it, it goes through the electrical system of the car, and "broadcasts" a signal on the FM radio dial I choose, between 104.9 and 105.9 FM !!!
Then I tune the car's radio to that signal, and wallah! I can perfectly hear my music device's sound through the car's radio no matter what car it is.
The reason I say it is like "road casting", is because since it pipes it through the car's electrical system, it is actually giving off this signal from the car.
The sound signal can be picked up by cars driving nearby on their radios!
I have not seen a device like this for sale for quite some time. But it works! Not for a 30 mile radius, but at least for a few car lengths' radius.
Most people I know buy CDs of artists that are worth buying a whole CD for.. Stuff like the Beatles albums for example, are worthy of listening to in the best sound quality possible, in the exact way the artist intended which ended up influencing more musicians.
For example the latest George Harrison album "Brainwashed" that came out, I had the mp3's and listened to the album. But when I bought the deluxe package version of "Brainwashed", it was as if Harrison himself prepared the package for me.. goodies like a guitar pick, poster and DVD came with it. Plus the goth-black packaging gives an eerieness to the proceedings.
The sound quality was very noticeably poor on the 160kbps MP3s I had gotten in advance, making the CD a better experience all around.
You get what you pay for.
Also. Can MP3s be worth anything? The more people stop buying CDs, the more my collection is going to be worth and that's fine with me.
Original read/write audio cylinders from the late 1880s/1890s and prerecorded cylinders from that time period (of some of the very first audio recordings) are worth a lot of money.
Anyone remember seeing the numbers tattooed onto arms of victims of Nazi concentration camps in documentaries showing actual WWII film footage?
The films in black and white where a crowd of liberated prisoners stand with their sleeves rolled up, showing their number. Each one of those numbers corresponded with an IBM data punch card.
After the war, hundreds of thousands of these punch cards were discovered in the office buildings of the camps. In particular the Auschwitz camp in Poland, which is now a museum, now has on display these cards of victims who perished there. This comes at around the same time a book is published detailing IBM's role in the Holocaust, "IBM and the Holocaust: The Strategic Alliance Between Nazi Germany and America's Most Powerful Corporation" by Edwin Black.
The Nazis needed to be able to better select, sort, classify and track data on their concentration camp victims. IBM came in with their solution - punch cards were the medium used to store data corresponding with an ID number tattooed onto each victim's forearm. These punch cards were run through a Hollerith tabulator machine.
The Hollerith machine, which was used since the late 19th century to tabulate and alphabetize census data, made rounding up victims, tallying deaths, and overall organizing the war effort extremely efficient. For example, Hole 3 signified homosexual, and Hole 8 designated a Jew. This technology was a precursor, and was a basic building block of IBM personal computers that emerged in the 1980s. Technology that now is used to track, select, classify and sort people today - through the internet?
It makes me wonder why IBM initially didn't want to get into the home computer market and allowed companies like Atari and Commodore to have a crack at ruling the desktop. Atari and then Commodore both tried doing it with computers able to do advanced graphics and sounds. Yet Microsoft ensured the technology of the IBM PC would survive. The technology of the punch card in every user's home. Could it be some sort of conspiracy surviving through the ages?