I think this is more the austrian mentality Schwarzenegger has been grown up with before he went to California.
Have in mind overe here in Austria, after the second world war we had a political climate of talking with each other no matter which party and to try to find solutions out of a problem no matter what lobbyists are behind. That climate has changed the last ten years, but that exactly was the climate you can see with Schwarzenegger, once in the office he started to talk with both parties.
I would not say he is a conservative, he is more a free thinker who is on the conservative side.
You cant even run a modern os with a decent gui on those machines...
128 MB gimme a break, have you seen the hardware requirements of modern applications.
You can be glad if you can start windows on those machines.
Urqhart is right. There is a classic example of what Bethestha might face. Ultima 7 and its followers. In the early nineties Origin released the Ultima7s (now can be played via exult Well in its original state the game was almost unplayable due to heavy machine requirements and bugs. Over time Origin fixed the bugs, and the game began to shine. After a few years people remembered the game better than it really was (not that it was bad it was a classic indeed) from that point on and from the point origin released the Underworlds which also connected to U7, Origin was destined to fail. First they released Ultima 8 which was quite good, but it was not another Ultima 7. They got a heavy beating, then year after year another delay. Ultima 7 became more and more nostalgic, and Origin/EA simply had to face a giant which they could not beat. Then U9 came out, buggy rushed, it got a deserved beating, although the game concepts itself were amazing and later games showed that the design can really work (The two Gothics come to my mind), Origin ran into the problem, a) that they again released a buggy game b) that the fans expectations were so high that they never could have fullfilled it with the hardware back then or a totally different design.
The funny thing is Garriot basically was right with his design decisions, it was just the hardware and the bugs which crippled the game, together with a fan community which had over the top expectations.
I wish Bethesta good luck but if they are unlucky, they run into another U7 fiasco.
I tried it, and it is awesome, pretty much like a knoppix install, no hardware questions, everything except reiserfs worked out of the box (reiserfs refused to mount but I had a problem in my machine)
and the install went smooth with a net install after the first machine.
Partitioning about 3 times enter, that is it.
Well I dont think Dungeon Keeper was really that original.
It was an out of the mill RTS game which was adverticed as RPG game and hyped to death.
It hat two major flaws.
a) It did not really introduce anythign new. You had the usual style of mining and fighting units, just moved to a dungeon. The fog of war was replaced by stone which you had to dig yourself through.
b) The missions were boring as hell, first you had to build up your army and then enemies started to invade. Every mission basically was the same. I kicked the game into the garbage bin at level 7.
I am not sure, but I think a bigger variety could have helped the game immensely even as an RTS. As an RPG the whole game would have had to be done totally differently with an evil character building himself up and slowly gathering an army.
I dont know how one of the old wizardries did that, afair in Wiz 4 or 5 you basically were the bad guy who had to stop the invaders in his dungeon.
Actually syndicate was done by another designer not Molineux, same goes for the Racing game by Bullfrog.
Molineux was the Designer for all the Popolous games, Magic Carpet, Dungeon Keeper and Black and White.
His titles seem to be a hit and miss thing with more misses towards the current games.
Well, first of all it is Dungeon Keeper not Dungeon Master. And Magic Carpet and Popolous were his only two good games.
Dungeon Keeper promised basically the world, but delivered one boring mission after the other and basically at least up to the point I kicked the game away (that was basically mission 6 or 7) every mission was the same.
Molineux is very good at raising expectations and constantly fails to deliver them. One thing why I was so dissapointed with DK was that it was supposed to be an RPG and then he delivered a standard out of the mill RTS with the usual mining fighting experience. He just replaced the army units with monsters and the fog with stone, you had
to cave tunnels in, but that basically was it.
Needless to say I skipped Black and White. Glad I did according to all comments.
It runs currently Windows only, with a Mac port currently developed.
Where is the other myriad of OSes Qt runs on?
Sorry, the only thing this is a competitor to is the awful MFC. But it does not take a lot to be better than the MFC, since the MFC is the worst there is.
Well what Mario 64 really was was nothing more than
a 2d mario and a third dimension added to it.
The collection endless crap came straight out of the first mario jump and run from the eighties (excluding donkey kong) and hasnt changed until today.
I can remember the comments there where everybody said they never have seen so beautiful and big 3d worlds. Once I got my hands on a N64 and saw it, I was pretty dissapointed, neither was the world beautiful nor big. There were much bigger 3d worlds out there on the PC at that time already and the game was not really that amazing. It was what it was, a usual Mario jump and run with a third dimension added to it.
Btw. same goes for Zelda and Metroid I always thought those game series lost a lot with the third dimension. Especially metroid which is just another first person shooter anymore.
Fans from the series might see it differently, but I am not a blind console follower and try to look a lot over the borders of games I play, just to see if there is something good across the pond.
Actually a start would be to add sidefactors to the share holder values which deal with ethics.
Also a stronger enforcement of current laws would be necessary, the problem is, the controlling laws are there, but the people who pull the strings often are the buddies of the biggest crooks in the business world.
Things like getting cheap garbage and dumping then into the lakes of the third world should be punished by law and fines should be applied to the company who does this which are more than a wristslap. The people responsible for this have to go to jail for a severely long time.
This is only an example.
Alternative energies:
Not only hybrids. Europe and Japan are heavily into research for fuel cells and they become slowly marketable thanks to rising gas prices.
Also dont underestimate the brain power which already went into ecological technologies over here in Europe. I dont really see the future techs in genectic technology but the biggest one will be ecological technology, rising oil prices will force us to. Europe and Japan are the current contenders for these future markets with their heavy research caused already by much higher gas prices there and higher environmental standards, since the USA decided during the Reagan era to drop their once highest standards in environmental protection into the garbage bin.
4 liter cars already reality over here, thanks to extensive diesel research, which also can be applied to plant oil and grease. You say Diesel cars exhaust cancerous particles, currently filters for those particles are becoming mandatory, the filters have been existing for years now over here.
We already can manufacture coal powered electrical plants which are nearly particle emission free and so on.
We already have several installations of tide powered electrical plants over here. Water powered ones already have been big.
So where does the US stand in this all? Nowhere, I think their environmental research stopped at the level of windmills thanks to a nuklear lobby which yet has to give the answer on how generations in a thousand years which maybe have lost our technological expertise should be able to deal with all the atomic waste those plants produce.
The environmental pressure will become bigger in the future and therefore the needs of more harmless forms of energy production. The USA is on a loosing road here currently. So is China, but they can turn around easily once the pressure is too high.
Well not really, Mario 64 was named action adventure, like all 3d platformers in that time.
But there were older 3d platformers. To my knowledge Pandemonium, Gex and other stuff by Crystal Dynamics was there before. Also Tomb Raider which also was/is a 3d platformer was released before Mario 64.
I never really could understand the Mario 64 craze.
It was a nice and good game, but I guess the marketing by BigN was the main reason why everbody thought it was so uníque.
There is only one premise on what has to happen.
Add ethics to basic economic fundamentals for christs sake.
I think ethics should be one basic cornerstone of economics otherwise we run into the hellish mess we now have where shareholder value has replaced basic fundamental thinking on what is good for the people in the end is also good for the company.
All the disasters of the recent past can be traced back to one thing, no ethics and greed running rampand on the altar of the fast buck.
Actually for gaming Centrino is a twosided sword. The Pentium-M kicks with 1.7 GHz every other Intel Prozessors butt, litterally spoken. This thing is faster than a 4 GHz P4 and uses only a fraction of energy the P4 uses.
But most centrino notebooks blow the gaming performance away with the dog slow and under linux rather problematic i855/xTreme2 graphics processor. Which is fast enough for occasional games (nwn still runs ok on this one) but never try it for high end gaming, you will end with a slideshow.
Even worse, as soon as the patterns are applied the whole system is altered and the pattern cannot be applied any more to a certain degree.
You can look at this situation from different angles, classical backfeed of a controlling system, a quantum theory system. Name it how you want it, but as soon as you start to exploit certain mechanics, they are altered.
This link to the quantum theory also came into my mind once people started talking about the influence of the loop by research here.
Classical case of the Schroedinger cat.
Can we, I rather doubt it...
You only can predict some already occurred situations and patterns.
But that does not mean we already have encountered every possible (well probably there are infinite)
situations to a crash.
The problem is, that many of these patterns only show one aspect of such a problem, the numbers, but forget about the root. Sociological factors.
An overheated stock market does not necessarily need to lead to a total 1929 like crash, as does high stocks have to cause a crash (in most cases they do but not in all)
Sorry this is the search for the holy grail all over again. What will come out of it is simulation patterns for certain kind of situations which can give you a prewarning system. (But probably will be exploitet by a few to become richer and thus the patterns will be rendered useless again)
All I can see here is that in the end you will get as a result a probability based system again which even is questionable.
Yes it entirely is like that. Financial patterns usually are heavily influenced by unpredictable sociological patterns. People have been trying for ages to map those patterns to mathematical theories, but yet they failed. Because most financial researchers make the mistake, to think that because some patterns can be mapped to linear algebra (the ones with the least influence by humans, aka already more or less patterns which were derived out of the theories) that other mathematics can be applied to other areas.
The stock market is a typical example. People have tried for almost 10 years to map the stock market behavior to mathematical theories and programs and yet they still have failed in the last consequence.
They could cover certain behavior but in the end there is always this last piece of unpredictability which causes the theories to crash.
Typical simulation situation where you only can have a percentage of predictability.
The system of having a 100% working simulation is a system where all sidefactors can be eliminated.
Thus only a financial system run entirely by machines is totally predictable. No matter what strange mathematical theories business experts try to apply, the will fail until they recognize that a simulation is not reality (but most of them have too much greed to recognize that)
The search for totally computational solutions to heavily decision influenced business problems nowadays seems to me more like modern alchemy than real science. Maybe one day something useful will get out of it, currently it does not.
The genome is a deterministic pattern which changes only slightly and slowly. Patterns can be found there and are predictable.
Yes you can find patterns in financial curves, but face it, finances are based on greed and psychology to a big degree, you cannot really start to predict something, once human psyche comes into the game, you only can start to caculate with uncertainities and can predict that something might happen with a certain risk behind it.
What you can find is patterns in old data, which then can be mapped to a certain degree to the causes, but that does not mean that you will get the same pattern again once the causes arise again. There are too many factors involved to prevent that. (social ones, learning factors, environmental onces, and factors caused by society)
Well having watched the olympics several times as a European in the US, I must say the US coverage mostly is garbage.
I know it is centered to the US taste.
But what you get in the US is basically a blend of soap opera and american athletes.
Although here in europe we also have strong sports nations, the focus always relies on the sports not on a soap opera invented by the journalists and the coverage is more or less international.
I just wished that most americans once at least had the chance to watch the coverage on other nations channels to see how much garbage their coverage is.
What most people simply dont recognize is, that a stylus and a touchpad is a very good mouse replacement. I am pretty sure that many point and click adventures can be converted to the new GB,
the main problem those things had in the past was that those games are close to impossible to be played seriously with the usual control cross.
If you ever played the monkey islands on a handheld or ultima7 on a zaurus you would know how well the point and click interface can be mapped to a stylus interface.
Actually no, Morrowind has its own share of problems, like constant reloading, npcs which are more like statues and you dont care at all about and a dialog system which is more like a spreadsheet than anything else.
Give Gothic1+2 a try you will be pleased...
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I think this is more the austrian mentality Schwarzenegger has been grown up with before he went to California. Have in mind overe here in Austria, after the second world war we had a political climate of talking with each other no matter which party and to try to find solutions out of a problem no matter what lobbyists are behind. That climate has changed the last ten years, but that exactly was the climate you can see with Schwarzenegger, once in the office he started to talk with both parties. I would not say he is a conservative, he is more a free thinker who is on the conservative side.
You cant even run a modern os with a decent gui on those machines... 128 MB gimme a break, have you seen the hardware requirements of modern applications. You can be glad if you can start windows on those machines.
Urqhart is right.
There is a classic example of what Bethestha might face.
Ultima 7 and its followers. In the early nineties Origin released the Ultima7s (now can be played via exult
Well in its original state the game was almost unplayable due to heavy machine requirements and bugs. Over time Origin fixed the bugs, and the game began to shine. After a few years people remembered the game better than it really was (not that it was bad it was a classic indeed) from that point on and from the point origin released the Underworlds which also connected to U7, Origin was destined to fail. First they released Ultima 8 which was quite good, but it was not another Ultima 7. They got a heavy beating, then year after year another delay. Ultima 7 became more and more nostalgic, and Origin/EA simply had to face a giant which they could not beat. Then U9 came out, buggy rushed, it got a deserved beating, although the game concepts itself were amazing and later games showed that the design can really work (The two Gothics come to my mind), Origin ran into the problem, a) that they again released a buggy game
b) that the fans expectations were so high that they never could have fullfilled it with the hardware back then or a totally different design.
The funny thing is Garriot basically was right with his design decisions, it was just the hardware and the bugs which crippled the game, together with a fan community which had over the top expectations.
I wish Bethesta good luck but if they are unlucky, they run into another U7 fiasco.
I tried it, and it is awesome, pretty much like a knoppix install, no hardware questions, everything except reiserfs worked out of the box (reiserfs refused to mount but I had a problem in my machine) and the install went smooth with a net install after the first machine. Partitioning about 3 times enter, that is it.
Well I dont think Dungeon Keeper was really that original. It was an out of the mill RTS game which was adverticed as RPG game and hyped to death. It hat two major flaws. a) It did not really introduce anythign new. You had the usual style of mining and fighting units, just moved to a dungeon. The fog of war was replaced by stone which you had to dig yourself through. b) The missions were boring as hell, first you had to build up your army and then enemies started to invade. Every mission basically was the same. I kicked the game into the garbage bin at level 7. I am not sure, but I think a bigger variety could have helped the game immensely even as an RTS. As an RPG the whole game would have had to be done totally differently with an evil character building himself up and slowly gathering an army. I dont know how one of the old wizardries did that, afair in Wiz 4 or 5 you basically were the bad guy who had to stop the invaders in his dungeon.
Actually syndicate was done by another designer not Molineux, same goes for the Racing game by Bullfrog. Molineux was the Designer for all the Popolous games, Magic Carpet, Dungeon Keeper and Black and White. His titles seem to be a hit and miss thing with more misses towards the current games.
Well, first of all it is Dungeon Keeper not Dungeon Master. And Magic Carpet and Popolous were his only two good games. Dungeon Keeper promised basically the world, but delivered one boring mission after the other and basically at least up to the point I kicked the game away (that was basically mission 6 or 7) every mission was the same. Molineux is very good at raising expectations and constantly fails to deliver them. One thing why I was so dissapointed with DK was that it was supposed to be an RPG and then he delivered a standard out of the mill RTS with the usual mining fighting experience. He just replaced the army units with monsters and the fog with stone, you had to cave tunnels in, but that basically was it. Needless to say I skipped Black and White. Glad I did according to all comments.
Cannot speak for Back and White, but I got Dungeon Keeper... After 5 missions i tossed it into the garbage bin.
Cultural thing out of the past... In germany nobody arrests a womand lying bear breasted on a beach.
It runs currently Windows only, with a Mac port currently developed. Where is the other myriad of OSes Qt runs on? Sorry, the only thing this is a competitor to is the awful MFC. But it does not take a lot to be better than the MFC, since the MFC is the worst there is.
Well what Mario 64 really was was nothing more than a 2d mario and a third dimension added to it. The collection endless crap came straight out of the first mario jump and run from the eighties (excluding donkey kong) and hasnt changed until today. I can remember the comments there where everybody said they never have seen so beautiful and big 3d worlds. Once I got my hands on a N64 and saw it, I was pretty dissapointed, neither was the world beautiful nor big. There were much bigger 3d worlds out there on the PC at that time already and the game was not really that amazing. It was what it was, a usual Mario jump and run with a third dimension added to it. Btw. same goes for Zelda and Metroid I always thought those game series lost a lot with the third dimension. Especially metroid which is just another first person shooter anymore. Fans from the series might see it differently, but I am not a blind console follower and try to look a lot over the borders of games I play, just to see if there is something good across the pond.
Actually a start would be to add sidefactors to the share holder values which deal with ethics. Also a stronger enforcement of current laws would be necessary, the problem is, the controlling laws are there, but the people who pull the strings often are the buddies of the biggest crooks in the business world. Things like getting cheap garbage and dumping then into the lakes of the third world should be punished by law and fines should be applied to the company who does this which are more than a wristslap. The people responsible for this have to go to jail for a severely long time. This is only an example.
Alternative energies: Not only hybrids. Europe and Japan are heavily into research for fuel cells and they become slowly marketable thanks to rising gas prices. Also dont underestimate the brain power which already went into ecological technologies over here in Europe. I dont really see the future techs in genectic technology but the biggest one will be ecological technology, rising oil prices will force us to. Europe and Japan are the current contenders for these future markets with their heavy research caused already by much higher gas prices there and higher environmental standards, since the USA decided during the Reagan era to drop their once highest standards in environmental protection into the garbage bin. 4 liter cars already reality over here, thanks to extensive diesel research, which also can be applied to plant oil and grease. You say Diesel cars exhaust cancerous particles, currently filters for those particles are becoming mandatory, the filters have been existing for years now over here. We already can manufacture coal powered electrical plants which are nearly particle emission free and so on. We already have several installations of tide powered electrical plants over here. Water powered ones already have been big. So where does the US stand in this all? Nowhere, I think their environmental research stopped at the level of windmills thanks to a nuklear lobby which yet has to give the answer on how generations in a thousand years which maybe have lost our technological expertise should be able to deal with all the atomic waste those plants produce. The environmental pressure will become bigger in the future and therefore the needs of more harmless forms of energy production. The USA is on a loosing road here currently. So is China, but they can turn around easily once the pressure is too high.
Well not really, Mario 64 was named action adventure, like all 3d platformers in that time. But there were older 3d platformers. To my knowledge Pandemonium, Gex and other stuff by Crystal Dynamics was there before. Also Tomb Raider which also was/is a 3d platformer was released before Mario 64. I never really could understand the Mario 64 craze. It was a nice and good game, but I guess the marketing by BigN was the main reason why everbody thought it was so uníque.
Is it really the belle. I think Far Cry deserves the title. It is close to perfect in both gaming and graphics.
There is only one premise on what has to happen. Add ethics to basic economic fundamentals for christs sake. I think ethics should be one basic cornerstone of economics otherwise we run into the hellish mess we now have where shareholder value has replaced basic fundamental thinking on what is good for the people in the end is also good for the company. All the disasters of the recent past can be traced back to one thing, no ethics and greed running rampand on the altar of the fast buck.
Actually for gaming Centrino is a twosided sword. The Pentium-M kicks with 1.7 GHz every other Intel Prozessors butt, litterally spoken. This thing is faster than a 4 GHz P4 and uses only a fraction of energy the P4 uses. But most centrino notebooks blow the gaming performance away with the dog slow and under linux rather problematic i855/xTreme2 graphics processor. Which is fast enough for occasional games (nwn still runs ok on this one) but never try it for high end gaming, you will end with a slideshow.
Even worse, as soon as the patterns are applied the whole system is altered and the pattern cannot be applied any more to a certain degree. You can look at this situation from different angles, classical backfeed of a controlling system, a quantum theory system. Name it how you want it, but as soon as you start to exploit certain mechanics, they are altered.
This link to the quantum theory also came into my mind once people started talking about the influence of the loop by research here. Classical case of the Schroedinger cat.
Can we, I rather doubt it... You only can predict some already occurred situations and patterns.
But that does not mean we already have encountered every possible (well probably there are infinite) situations to a crash.
The problem is, that many of these patterns only show one aspect of such a problem, the numbers, but forget about the root. Sociological factors. An overheated stock market does not necessarily need to lead to a total 1929 like crash, as does high stocks have to cause a crash (in most cases they do but not in all)
Sorry this is the search for the holy grail all over again. What will come out of it is simulation patterns for certain kind of situations which can give you a prewarning system. (But probably will be exploitet by a few to become richer and thus the patterns will be rendered useless again)
All I can see here is that in the end you will get as a result a probability based system again which even is questionable.
Yes it entirely is like that. Financial patterns usually are heavily influenced by unpredictable sociological patterns. People have been trying for ages to map those patterns to mathematical theories, but yet they failed. Because most financial researchers make the mistake, to think that because some patterns can be mapped to linear algebra (the ones with the least influence by humans, aka already more or less patterns which were derived out of the theories) that other mathematics can be applied to other areas.
The stock market is a typical example. People have tried for almost 10 years to map the stock market behavior to mathematical theories and programs and yet they still have failed in the last consequence.
They could cover certain behavior but in the end there is always this last piece of unpredictability which causes the theories to crash.
Typical simulation situation where you only can have a percentage of predictability. The system of having a 100% working simulation is a system where all sidefactors can be eliminated.
Thus only a financial system run entirely by machines is totally predictable. No matter what strange mathematical theories business experts try to apply, the will fail until they recognize that a simulation is not reality (but most of them have too much greed to recognize that)
The search for totally computational solutions to heavily decision influenced business problems nowadays seems to me more like modern alchemy than real science. Maybe one day something useful will get out of it, currently it does not.
The genome is a deterministic pattern which changes only slightly and slowly. Patterns can be found there and are predictable. Yes you can find patterns in financial curves, but face it, finances are based on greed and psychology to a big degree, you cannot really start to predict something, once human psyche comes into the game, you only can start to caculate with uncertainities and can predict that something might happen with a certain risk behind it. What you can find is patterns in old data, which then can be mapped to a certain degree to the causes, but that does not mean that you will get the same pattern again once the causes arise again. There are too many factors involved to prevent that. (social ones, learning factors, environmental onces, and factors caused by society)
Well having watched the olympics several times as a European in the US, I must say the US coverage mostly is garbage.
I know it is centered to the US taste. But what you get in the US is basically a blend of soap opera and american athletes.
Although here in europe we also have strong sports nations, the focus always relies on the sports not on a soap opera invented by the journalists and the coverage is more or less international.
I just wished that most americans once at least had the chance to watch the coverage on other nations channels to see how much garbage their coverage is.
What most people simply dont recognize is, that a stylus and a touchpad is a very good mouse replacement. I am pretty sure that many point and click adventures can be converted to the new GB, the main problem those things had in the past was that those games are close to impossible to be played seriously with the usual control cross. If you ever played the monkey islands on a handheld or ultima7 on a zaurus you would know how well the point and click interface can be mapped to a stylus interface.
Actually no, Morrowind has its own share of problems, like constant reloading, npcs which are more like statues and you dont care at all about and a dialog system which is more like a spreadsheet than anything else. Give Gothic1+2 a try you will be pleased...