I found it interesting in TFA when OpenOffice was compared to Firefox. Its not Firefox, it Mozilla. What OpenOffice needs to succeed is a decrufting just as Mozilla needed a few visionary programmers to come along and throw it all out.
IMHO, as it stands OO is a slow, crufty, bloated nightmare. For gods sakes, will someone drive a stake into the heart of this ten headed monster and kill it. Maybe a phoenix will rise from the ashes.
OO needs to take a long hard look at the success of Firefox. You don't win by being free, you win by being better. Firefox is better than IE. OO isn't anywhere close to better than Microsoft Office.
I hate the evil empire as much as the next geek, but don't let hate blind you to relative quality.
I use foxit pdf reader (free as in beer) to read pdf on my windoze machine. It loads in a flash - really - like 2 seconds. I have acrobat installed, but only use it rarely for creation/editing.
One potential model is Firefox. We need a core group to take the open office applications, which are suffering from bloat, and strip them down, making unnecessary functioality return as plug-ins.
Any takers?
Reminds me of a quote in Gibbons Decline and Fall of Rome (a light three volume read)
"The decline of Rome was the natural and inevitable effect of immoderate greatness. Prosperity ripened the principle of decay; the cause of the destruction multiplied with the extent of conquest; and, as soon as time or accident and removed the artificial supports, the stupendous fabric yielded to the pressure of its own weight. The story of the ruin is simple and obvious: and instead of inquiring why the Roman Empire was destroyed we should rather be surprised that it has subsisted for so long."
12/01 - Planned site outage on Dec 2nd 2004 (by lowkee) LokiTorrent, MuffTorrent and their respective forums will be closed on Dec 2nd while we make some major site code changes that cannot be performed with the sites online.
The trackers for both sites WILL remain online during this time, so get you torrent downloads in today if you think you want something tomorrow. The site will not be down the ENTIRE day, but I'm trying to play it safe:)
That sure seems like a lot of work - changing numerous IE settings in numerous places - and installing a third party program (proxomitron) that from recollection is no longer supported by its author, then loading a large un-tested configuration file to this program.
The timespan under discussion is clearly the issue. The blurb says "for the holiday season," which limits our scope. Expanding the scope, the answer changes...
Headlines of the future:
Christmas 2004 "iPod again the must-have" Christmas 2005 "With music in your Nokia/Motorola phone, Apple starts to hurt; is it the Macintosh all over?" Christmas 2006 "Samsung Camera/Phone/PDA/Music Player the latest must-have in this year's stockings. Finland still in depression following Nokia crash" Christmas 2007 "Shuttle Ultra-Mini lets you carry your pc around on your belt buckle. Bell bottoms are back" Christmas 2009 "Consumers flocking to Seiko Watch PC; interface with any wall monitor with 802.11z. Are the major movie studios following record giants into oblivion?" Christmas 2010 "The new rage among the techno-literate is tatooing "Linux Inside" on the forehead following nano implants. Slashdot updates color scheme" Christmas 2011 "Post Singularity survivory reinvent sundail"
That' funny... I've made some real money on open source investing. I bought SCO when it blew up on slashdot, followed it up, sold just over the peak and shorted it down.
So there is money to be made on open source - shorting the stocks of the losers. My current investment tips (courtesy slashdot): short Sun.
I didn't need a team of British reporters and weeks of research, I just typed "Who has the fastest search engine" into the search engines. Duh! And the results are...
I was with you until you used to word "burn." Why? It's the 21st Century already, physical media is sooooo 1999.
I've just ripped all my cds (600+) to ape format. I chose ape over flac due to the higher compression ratio. I then sold all my cds to a used music store for less than the cost of the 300gb hard disk (i.e. a net cash gain).
I play the tracks in whatever my media player of choice is at the moment and run the audio through a stereo-link 1200 (google it) to my stereo.
I'm a quality freak. I didn't go mp3 in the first wave because I couldn't stand the sound quality once amplified through good speakers - where is the midrange? Hence I haven't solved the video problem. I want full lossless dvd quality before I switch, so I'm waiting for 2000gb hard disks for $200 before I toss the dvd's.
I'm reminded of my transition from records to cds. I sold early when you could still recover some of the value. Once the cd era was in full swing, you were lucky to get $1 for a record.
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If Linux had a better one...
I found it interesting in TFA when OpenOffice was compared to Firefox. Its not Firefox, it Mozilla. What OpenOffice needs to succeed is a decrufting just as Mozilla needed a few visionary programmers to come along and throw it all out.
IMHO, as it stands OO is a slow, crufty, bloated nightmare. For gods sakes, will someone drive a stake into the heart of this ten headed monster and kill it. Maybe a phoenix will rise from the ashes.
OO needs to take a long hard look at the success of Firefox. You don't win by being free, you win by being better. Firefox is better than IE. OO isn't anywhere close to better than Microsoft Office.
I hate the evil empire as much as the next geek, but don't let hate blind you to relative quality.
I use foxit pdf reader (free as in beer) to read pdf on my windoze machine. It loads in a flash - really - like 2 seconds. I have acrobat installed, but only use it rarely for creation/editing.
I completely agree. OpenOffice is soooooo... in need of a Firefox to its Mozilla suite. Can someone please fork this puppy and dump the bloat.
One potential model is Firefox. We need a core group to take the open office applications, which are suffering from bloat, and strip them down, making unnecessary functioality return as plug-ins. Any takers?
Reminds me of a quote in Gibbons Decline and Fall of Rome (a light three volume read)
"The decline of Rome was the natural and inevitable effect of immoderate greatness. Prosperity ripened the principle of decay; the cause of the destruction multiplied with the extent of conquest; and, as soon as time or accident and removed the artificial supports, the stupendous fabric yielded to the pressure of its own weight. The story of the ruin is simple and obvious: and instead of inquiring why the Roman Empire was destroyed we should rather be surprised that it has subsisted for so long."
12/01 - Planned site outage on Dec 2nd 2004 (by lowkee)
:)
LokiTorrent, MuffTorrent and their respective forums will be closed on Dec 2nd while we make some major site code changes that cannot be performed with the sites online.
The trackers for both sites WILL remain online during this time, so get you torrent downloads in today if you think you want something tomorrow. The site will not be down the ENTIRE day, but I'm trying to play it safe
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I don't want to seem pendantic but you can't have 400% profit. 100% is it.
It's math, see...
That sure seems like a lot of work - changing numerous IE settings in numerous places - and installing a third party program (proxomitron) that from recollection is no longer supported by its author, then loading a large un-tested configuration file to this program.
Why not just use Firefox????
Is there something I'm missing here?
The timespan under discussion is clearly the issue. The blurb says "for the holiday season," which limits our scope. Expanding the scope, the answer changes...
Headlines of the future:
Christmas 2004 "iPod again the must-have"
Christmas 2005 "With music in your Nokia/Motorola phone, Apple starts to hurt; is it the Macintosh all over?"
Christmas 2006 "Samsung Camera/Phone/PDA/Music Player the latest must-have in this year's stockings. Finland still in depression following Nokia crash"
Christmas 2007 "Shuttle Ultra-Mini lets you carry your pc around on your belt buckle. Bell bottoms are back"
Christmas 2009 "Consumers flocking to Seiko Watch PC; interface with any wall monitor with 802.11z. Are the major movie studios following record giants into oblivion?"
Christmas 2010 "The new rage among the techno-literate is tatooing "Linux Inside" on the forehead following nano implants. Slashdot updates color scheme"
Christmas 2011 "Post Singularity survivory reinvent sundail"
Can I get a witness?
I don't use that newfangled one, I still use the original metre:
e me nt/meridian.htm
one ten millionth of the the distance of the meridian arc between Barcelona and Dunkirk
http://www.bnm.fr/version_anglaise/pages/measur
Hey, if its good enough for Napoleon, its good enough for me.
That' funny... I've made some real money on open source investing. I bought SCO when it blew up on slashdot, followed it up, sold just over the peak and shorted it down. So there is money to be made on open source - shorting the stocks of the losers. My current investment tips (courtesy slashdot): short Sun.
I think Google is already in trouble.
I didn't need a team of British reporters and weeks of research, I just typed "Who has the fastest search engine" into the search engines. Duh! And the results are...
Google says "AlltheWeb"
Yahoo says "Ixquick"
MSN says "Ixquick"
Jeeves says "AlltheWeb"
To break the tie I asked the winners:
Ixquick said "AlltheWeb"
AlltheWeb said "Ixquick"
So there you have it: A tie.
I was with you until you used to word "burn." Why? It's the 21st Century already, physical media is sooooo 1999.
I've just ripped all my cds (600+) to ape format. I chose ape over flac due to the higher compression ratio. I then sold all my cds to a used music store for less than the cost of the 300gb hard disk (i.e. a net cash gain).
I play the tracks in whatever my media player of choice is at the moment and run the audio through a stereo-link 1200 (google it) to my stereo.
I'm a quality freak. I didn't go mp3 in the first wave because I couldn't stand the sound quality once amplified through good speakers - where is the midrange? Hence I haven't solved the video problem. I want full lossless dvd quality before I switch, so I'm waiting for 2000gb hard disks for $200 before I toss the dvd's.
I'm reminded of my transition from records to cds. I sold early when you could still recover some of the value. Once the cd era was in full swing, you were lucky to get $1 for a record.
Summary: Go totally digital now.