No offense, but it looks to me like you're the asshole / twat.
I see the "no offense" there, but you can't just tack that on and expect everything to be okay. I didn't call you out personally in my initial reply. I didn't reply to you directly, either, so there was no way any of what I said could be taken to mean you -- unless you go around telling people off who ask for help.
Personally, I've never had these problems you are describing, and I've been using Linux and Linux support forums for over 10 years.
So, of course, that invalidates everyone else's experience, including the people who replied to me agreeing with me, and the moderators who felt the need to up my initial post (I can't figure out why my reply got moderated up insightful).
not people like you who are the ones foaming at the mouth on/.
I use Linux, I tell people about it, and I don't treat them like shit when they ask me questions about computers. A rant under a pseudonym on a website read by people who have already been exposed to Linux isn't going to hurt Linux. Treating new users like shit slows the growth of the Linux user base -- and I think we need more users, if only to get better driver support and make life a little easier.
And I was SO offensive as to deserve being marked a foe? Just for questioning your whinging?!
Actually, I looked at your other posts to see if we had crossed paths before and maybe you were pissed at me for something else I said, and found pretty much more of the same. You attack people directly and act like they should say thank you for the privilige. The foe marking was probably a bit of a rushed decision, but oh well, people like me are the problem.
And I wouldn't call your original reply to me "questioning" so much as "condemning and insulting."
Linux (and many other OSS projects) was made to 'scratch an itch'. Its success is defined by how well it does that, not by how many people use it or whomever gets beaten in marketshare.
Agreed on all points, this in particular. I don't particularly want Linux to have 95% market share. I just want to see it grow. Enough that hardware manufacturers stop treating it, to use an old cliche, like a redheaded step child.
if you feel that documentation is lacking and would be helpfull, maybe help writing it.
Would but I could; I'm still learning. I'm still afraid of giving out wrong information.
And people like you are why people like everyone else think Linux users are assholes. I'm talking about asking polite questions after going through a ton of work and reading -- hours of each, at least -- and being unable to get anywhere, then having some ass down-talk me. If you don't like someone's request, don't fucking reply.
I guess it's okay to be an asshole to someone because they asked for your help in your world. Do us all a favor, and don't have children. Because they might as for free help.
We're talking about forums for help here, not some 1337 super kewl Linux guru webpage where everyone has years of programming experience.
I never said anything about Linux developers. I was talking about jerkoffs who snub people who ask for help, on said forums for help.
Just because you're too stupid and have like a third grade reading comprehension, don't flame me. I've got karma to burn, and don't care if I get moderated down for this, but you're just an asshole.
Well, as much as I bitch and moan about support forums and dependencies, the things I see keeping Linux off of the desktop are games and hardware support. When ATi/nVidia/whoever start releasing drivers half as decent as the Windows drivers, and Blizzard/EA/whoever start releasing their hit titles for Linux on launch, all the rest will probably fall into place. The elitists will be overrun by hundred of gamers who figure everything out and then we'll all have to deal with jackass gamers instead of jackass gurus.
Now wait a moment.. I make something because I need/want it for whatever reason. I then decide to share what I made with others, and now you tell me that results in me being required to do something?
Perhaps I came off too strongly -- I don't mean just a regular, average programmer who makes Linux stuff. But if you're writing something for the community at large, as part of a project, and you want it and Linux to succeed, it's a good idea to write good documentation.
regardless of what kind of software or software development process
Given. Microsoft produces ridiculous help, in my experience. The difference is, Linux doesn't have the money or the near-monopoly that Microsoft has, and if we want new users, we have to be better than the other guys -- being free isn't better if I can't figure out how to make it work. You can give me a free microwave, but if I have to enter a password that I don't know to get it to bake my potato or heat up my ramen, it's just a waste of my kitchen space.
I'm not trying to condemn the community as a whole or say that the people asking questions are all saints. I've been given very good advice by people about Linux, and great help. I've also seen complete dicks asking questions. I also realize this isn't just Linux/Free/OSS related -- if jerk Linux users were the only assholes on the internet it would be a better place because 95% of the 'net doesn't use Linux.
This isn't just true for software either.
Oh so very much agreed. My printer came with ass documentation and it was made by a huge company, and almost every appliance I've bought in recent memory has about a 400 word instruction manual, reprinted in eighteen languages and not very helpful in any of them. (Or so I'd imagine; I can only read a few of them). Again, not just blaming Linux people here -- but this isn't a thread about my particular printer or DVD player (both of which I'd be SOL trying to figure out if I didn't already know how to figure them out).
Writing this reply, it has occurred to me: At least the Linux "RTFM" guys aren't telling me to restart my computer like Dell/MS support used to. "Okay, still doesn't work? Okay reformat your hard drive..."
Of course not everyone understands everything at first glance, but really, how difficult is it to ask 'I read x and y, but I still don't understand how to get z to work' instead of 'how do I get z to work'?
Point accepted.
I do not mind being pointed to what I missed reading -- that's completely acceptable, especially if it's a document I may not have seen or tried reading. "Read this... (URL)" is fine, I don't expect someone to reype FAQs or man pages for me -- and anyone who does is nuts.
Chances are someone else is having that same exact problem or will in the future and it's best to sum it up so Google can archive it.
Yes, please.
I've found people complaining of problems I have had on forums and e-mail lists, and a "I figured it out" or "thanks, but I got it working" reply at the end don't help. If you have a weird, obscure problem and find only two or so threads about it, and they're all a year old -- that's frustrating.
Yet somehow you expect others to have the time to: - write said software - write the documentation - repeatedly answer the same question
If they write the software and expect other people to use it (hence making it available for other people), they should write the documentation. Some times, the documentation just sucks, some times it doesn't -- MythTV has a hell of an extensive bit of documentation, and so does CUPS. IVTV is getting there, but it's somewhat lacking.
If they get the same question more than a few times, maybe adding a FAQ (or even asking someone else who knows the software to add a FAQ) would help. We're talking about a community here where people volunteer time, with hundreds of support forums. There's no reason we shouldn't have damn good support and help, and no reason for someone to snark off at someone asking for help. Some people need more help than others.
The only reason I got to where I am now is because I was very tenacious about learning and when I was refused help, I went elsewhere.
I guess some people have a trial by fire attitude, or they were shit on and are passing it on. "If you can't figure this out, you're not good enough to be part of our club."
Well, it doesn't really matter whom you are asking, rather, the point is that the software, documentation, and answering of questions all take time from others. Not having the time or not feeling like figuring out something really aren't good excuses imho. Not knowing where to start however is a very good one.
No one is forcing them to reply and be snarky. That takes time, too. Some times, people have tried to figure it out, they've spent hours on it, and they just don't have the knowledge to get anywhere. Not everyone has hours a day to learn everything about programming and Linux -- and that is why Linux isn't hugely popular. Which was sort of my original point. I'm not talking about wanting everything done for me.
You see, being willing to learn how to figure things out and investing some time yourself in helping others is perfectly acceptable to me at least.
And sometimes people do, and still don't get it. They ask for help, and get crapped on. Keep in mind I'm talking about people who are being nice about it and actually trying to learn, not someone who wants everything handed to them -- I'm aware those people exist. Just like the jerks who snot off at people asking for help. Not everyone is like that, but enough are. (This also isn't limited to Linux, or even software.)
I don't know why this is being moderated down. It's a fact.
I use Linux exclusively. Slackware, to be specific.
I read as much as I can stand to while trying to configure something. I read readme files, install guides, man pages -- anything I can get. Then I Google if it still won't work. I'll spend six or so hours trying to tinker until something works. Only after I've just had enough will I go to a forum. I've done that one time in the last six months.
The last thing I want is for some assmonger to reply with a basic "RTFM" type response. It's unfair, it's assumptive, and it makes them look like a prick. Don't assume I haven't read the manual -- just fucking help me. Don't be a twat. The real bitch of this is that "RTFM" is considered a perfectly reasonable response, but if I tell them off for it, it's now a flame.
Someone once joked that the best way to get help on a Linux forum is to flame and say "You can't do (x) in Linux!" where (x) is what you want to do. You'll then get a dozen different ways to do (x) from the forum regulars. But if you ask how to do (x), even politely, you just get snark.
This is a problem for Linux. It's not the worst, in my opinion, but it's in the top five. (Having to download hundreds of megabytes of dependencies to get a lot of programs working is the worst.)
This is one case where having a boring name would help. If you have some oddball you-kneek* name spelling, it makes Googling for you that much easier. If your name is John or Bob or Christina, with a common or at least not unusual last name, finding you on the internet can be a bitch. Unless you have pictures up or give out a ton of details.
I do not post anything under my real name that I would be ashamed of my mother reading. I pretty much just write reviews for gadgets on newegg under my real name. I don't post my picture, either. The world isn't interested in what I did last night, and I'm not interested in anyone pathetic enough to care what I did last night -- unless I already know them, that's just freaking creepy. I'm not Tucker Max, my life isn't interesting enough to blab about.
I guess being more familiar with technology, I know how easy stuff can be found -- and how hard it is to get rid of it once it's out there.
I don't have Windows. So Microsoft doesn't talk to my computer. Wouldn't a more accurate title be "Microsoft talks daily to Windows"?
Considering how often Windows is pirated, I can't say this surprises me. Their excuse is stupid. They should just say "Look, we know people pirate. So we're going to check. If you don't like it, tough." Don't hide it. I'm not saying they're right or wrong to do this -- just that they should be up front about it if they are going to.
It won't make a dent in their sales. Whether or not you hate Microsoft, love Linux/Apple, or cling to OS/2 -- Microsoft is currently the top dog. Right or wrong; I'm not taking a stance on that, here. It's going to take a lot more than this to hurt Microsoft's bottom line.
So, you know, just tell us what information you're going to collect.
Pretty sure WMV 9 works already on Linux. I've yet to need Wine to get any type of video running. MPlayer with the codec packages on their site plays everything I've come across.
I don't know how "This movie has breasts" really gives away the plot. Movies have breasts completely unrelated. "This movie has sex." I wouldn't advocate "The lead in this movie has sex with three women, one man, and a dog" detailed ratings, just a vague "Graphic Violence." "Graphic nudity." I don't know if they still do this, but HBO used to list what each movie contained with letters in their pritned program guide. SSC was Strong Sexual Content. That's about as much as I recall.
Because in the movies, you aren't partaking in the violence. So you aren't being encouraged to kill, or maim, and not face consequences. You aren't enjoying killing in movies.
Not that I agree with this stance. I think it's bull shit. I've played violent video games of all sorts since Wolfenstein 3D came out*, including Doom and the Grand Theft Auto games, and I've yet to kill someone. I haven't even been in a fight in ten years, and I was like thirteen then.
Of course, I have also consumed vast amounts of pornography, and been exposed to (thank you internet) some pretty disgusting porn. I've yet to go out and rape someone. So that's another claim (porn makes people commit rape) that is ridiculous on its face.
There are so many of us playing violent video games and looking at porn, but violence in the U.S. is on the decline, and as far as I am aware, rape is part of those statistics.
*Honestly, Pac-Man and Mario Brothers are pretty violent too. Pac-Man contains weird paranormal cannibalism, and the Mario games feature cruelty to animals. Nowhere in Vice City was I able to brutally crush a turtle with my feet.
I wouldn't care if they rated all video games heavily for sex and violence
I think they should with movies, too. But I think it should be broken into catagories. Tits should not make a game Adult Only if brutally killing people with a chain saw does not. There was a mission in Vice City where you were sent to kill a man with a chain saw. There's another where you have to kill a man's wife in a "car accident."
I cannot imagine why this would be more acceptable for a seventeen year old boy than a pair of naked breasts or even -- God forbid! -- some pixelated bush. I don't see how polygonal nipples and artificialy rendered labia are worse than polygonal brutal murders and artificially rendered blood.
Give us a rating for violence, and a rating for sex, and keep them separate because they aren't the same thing.
It's not entirely a joke name. There was a sheriff here (well, next town over) named that, and in my sister's dance school, a girl named Micah Hunt, which is only slightly better.
I'm not saying it isn't a joke name in this case, but there are people named that.
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Maybe Apple stole them in order to recycle the black casings! omg conspiracaaaay!
/.ers, I'm trying to avoid work here.
I'm surprised I didn't see a "once you go black" joke yet. C'mon
You directly address me with:
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No offense, but it looks to me like you're the asshole / twat.
I see the "no offense" there, but you can't just tack that on and expect everything to be okay. I didn't call you out personally in my initial reply. I didn't reply to you directly, either, so there was no way any of what I said could be taken to mean you -- unless you go around telling people off who ask for help.
Personally, I've never had these problems you are describing, and I've been using Linux and Linux support forums for over 10 years.
So, of course, that invalidates everyone else's experience, including the people who replied to me agreeing with me, and the moderators who felt the need to up my initial post (I can't figure out why my reply got moderated up insightful).
not people like you who are the ones foaming at the mouth on
I use Linux, I tell people about it, and I don't treat them like shit when they ask me questions about computers. A rant under a pseudonym on a website read by people who have already been exposed to Linux isn't going to hurt Linux. Treating new users like shit slows the growth of the Linux user base -- and I think we need more users, if only to get better driver support and make life a little easier.
And I was SO offensive as to deserve being marked a foe? Just for questioning your whinging?!
Actually, I looked at your other posts to see if we had crossed paths before and maybe you were pissed at me for something else I said, and found pretty much more of the same. You attack people directly and act like they should say thank you for the privilige. The foe marking was probably a bit of a rushed decision, but oh well, people like me are the problem.
And I wouldn't call your original reply to me "questioning" so much as "condemning and insulting."
Linux (and many other OSS projects) was made to 'scratch an itch'. Its success is defined by how well it does that, not by how many people use it or whomever gets beaten in marketshare.
Agreed on all points, this in particular. I don't particularly want Linux to have 95% market share. I just want to see it grow. Enough that hardware manufacturers stop treating it, to use an old cliche, like a redheaded step child.
if you feel that documentation is lacking and would be helpfull, maybe help writing it.
Would but I could; I'm still learning. I'm still afraid of giving out wrong information.
When is the last time your parents or grandparents spent 6 or so hours trying to work out how to do something on a computer.
Probably the last time I wasn't available to explain the CTRL+C/CTRL+V thing.
And people like you are why people like everyone else think Linux users are assholes. I'm talking about asking polite questions after going through a ton of work and reading -- hours of each, at least -- and being unable to get anywhere, then having some ass down-talk me. If you don't like someone's request, don't fucking reply.
I guess it's okay to be an asshole to someone because they asked for your help in your world. Do us all a favor, and don't have children. Because they might as for free help.
We're talking about forums for help here, not some 1337 super kewl Linux guru webpage where everyone has years of programming experience.
I never said anything about Linux developers. I was talking about jerkoffs who snub people who ask for help, on said forums for help.
Just because you're too stupid and have like a third grade reading comprehension, don't flame me. I've got karma to burn, and don't care if I get moderated down for this, but you're just an asshole.
Well, as much as I bitch and moan about support forums and dependencies, the things I see keeping Linux off of the desktop are games and hardware support. When ATi/nVidia/whoever start releasing drivers half as decent as the Windows drivers, and Blizzard/EA/whoever start releasing their hit titles for Linux on launch, all the rest will probably fall into place. The elitists will be overrun by hundred of gamers who figure everything out and then we'll all have to deal with jackass gamers instead of jackass gurus.
Now wait a moment..
I make something because I need/want it for whatever reason. I then decide to share what I made with others, and now you tell me that results in me being required to do something?
Perhaps I came off too strongly -- I don't mean just a regular, average programmer who makes Linux stuff. But if you're writing something for the community at large, as part of a project, and you want it and Linux to succeed, it's a good idea to write good documentation.
regardless of what kind of software or software development process
Given. Microsoft produces ridiculous help, in my experience. The difference is, Linux doesn't have the money or the near-monopoly that Microsoft has, and if we want new users, we have to be better than the other guys -- being free isn't better if I can't figure out how to make it work. You can give me a free microwave, but if I have to enter a password that I don't know to get it to bake my potato or heat up my ramen, it's just a waste of my kitchen space.
I'm not trying to condemn the community as a whole or say that the people asking questions are all saints. I've been given very good advice by people about Linux, and great help. I've also seen complete dicks asking questions. I also realize this isn't just Linux/Free/OSS related -- if jerk Linux users were the only assholes on the internet it would be a better place because 95% of the 'net doesn't use Linux.
This isn't just true for software either.
Oh so very much agreed. My printer came with ass documentation and it was made by a huge company, and almost every appliance I've bought in recent memory has about a 400 word instruction manual, reprinted in eighteen languages and not very helpful in any of them. (Or so I'd imagine; I can only read a few of them). Again, not just blaming Linux people here -- but this isn't a thread about my particular printer or DVD player (both of which I'd be SOL trying to figure out if I didn't already know how to figure them out).
Writing this reply, it has occurred to me: At least the Linux "RTFM" guys aren't telling me to restart my computer like Dell/MS support used to. "Okay, still doesn't work? Okay reformat your hard drive..."
Of course not everyone understands everything at first glance, but really, how difficult is it to ask 'I read x and y, but I still don't understand how to get z to work' instead of 'how do I get z to work'?
Point accepted.
I do not mind being pointed to what I missed reading -- that's completely acceptable, especially if it's a document I may not have seen or tried reading. "Read this... (URL)" is fine, I don't expect someone to reype FAQs or man pages for me -- and anyone who does is nuts.
If case doesn't matter, then why don't you always use upper case?
Almost 90% of the time I use just lowercase for file names -- but not passwords. That's one thing I love about case sensitivity.
Chances are someone else is having that same exact problem or will in the future and it's best to sum it up so Google can archive it.
Yes, please.
I've found people complaining of problems I have had on forums and e-mail lists, and a "I figured it out" or "thanks, but I got it working" reply at the end don't help. If you have a weird, obscure problem and find only two or so threads about it, and they're all a year old -- that's frustrating.
Yet somehow you expect others to have the time to:
- write said software
- write the documentation
- repeatedly answer the same question
If they write the software and expect other people to use it (hence making it available for other people), they should write the documentation. Some times, the documentation just sucks, some times it doesn't -- MythTV has a hell of an extensive bit of documentation, and so does CUPS. IVTV is getting there, but it's somewhat lacking.
If they get the same question more than a few times, maybe adding a FAQ (or even asking someone else who knows the software to add a FAQ) would help. We're talking about a community here where people volunteer time, with hundreds of support forums. There's no reason we shouldn't have damn good support and help, and no reason for someone to snark off at someone asking for help. Some people need more help than others.
The only reason I got to where I am now is because I was very tenacious about learning and when I was refused help, I went elsewhere.
I guess some people have a trial by fire attitude, or they were shit on and are passing it on. "If you can't figure this out, you're not good enough to be part of our club."
Well, it doesn't really matter whom you are asking, rather, the point is that the software, documentation, and answering of questions all take time from others. Not having the time or not feeling like figuring out something really aren't good excuses imho. Not knowing where to start however is a very good one.
No one is forcing them to reply and be snarky. That takes time, too. Some times, people have tried to figure it out, they've spent hours on it, and they just don't have the knowledge to get anywhere. Not everyone has hours a day to learn everything about programming and Linux -- and that is why Linux isn't hugely popular. Which was sort of my original point. I'm not talking about wanting everything done for me.
You see, being willing to learn how to figure things out and investing some time yourself in helping others is perfectly acceptable to me at least.
And sometimes people do, and still don't get it. They ask for help, and get crapped on. Keep in mind I'm talking about people who are being nice about it and actually trying to learn, not someone who wants everything handed to them -- I'm aware those people exist. Just like the jerks who snot off at people asking for help. Not everyone is like that, but enough are. (This also isn't limited to Linux, or even software.)
I don't know why this is being moderated down. It's a fact.
I use Linux exclusively. Slackware, to be specific.
I read as much as I can stand to while trying to configure something. I read readme files, install guides, man pages -- anything I can get. Then I Google if it still won't work. I'll spend six or so hours trying to tinker until something works. Only after I've just had enough will I go to a forum. I've done that one time in the last six months.
The last thing I want is for some assmonger to reply with a basic "RTFM" type response. It's unfair, it's assumptive, and it makes them look like a prick. Don't assume I haven't read the manual -- just fucking help me. Don't be a twat. The real bitch of this is that "RTFM" is considered a perfectly reasonable response, but if I tell them off for it, it's now a flame.
Someone once joked that the best way to get help on a Linux forum is to flame and say "You can't do (x) in Linux!" where (x) is what you want to do. You'll then get a dozen different ways to do (x) from the forum regulars. But if you ask how to do (x), even politely, you just get snark.
This is a problem for Linux. It's not the worst, in my opinion, but it's in the top five. (Having to download hundreds of megabytes of dependencies to get a lot of programs working is the worst.)
This is one case where having a boring name would help. If you have some oddball you-kneek* name spelling, it makes Googling for you that much easier. If your name is John or Bob or Christina, with a common or at least not unusual last name, finding you on the internet can be a bitch. Unless you have pictures up or give out a ton of details.
I do not post anything under my real name that I would be ashamed of my mother reading. I pretty much just write reviews for gadgets on newegg under my real name. I don't post my picture, either. The world isn't interested in what I did last night, and I'm not interested in anyone pathetic enough to care what I did last night -- unless I already know them, that's just freaking creepy. I'm not Tucker Max, my life isn't interesting enough to blab about.
I guess being more familiar with technology, I know how easy stuff can be found -- and how hard it is to get rid of it once it's out there.
Just ask Libby Hoeler.
* Intentional destruction of the word unique.
I don't have Windows. So Microsoft doesn't talk to my computer. Wouldn't a more accurate title be "Microsoft talks daily to Windows"?
Considering how often Windows is pirated, I can't say this surprises me. Their excuse is stupid. They should just say "Look, we know people pirate. So we're going to check. If you don't like it, tough." Don't hide it. I'm not saying they're right or wrong to do this -- just that they should be up front about it if they are going to.
It won't make a dent in their sales. Whether or not you hate Microsoft, love Linux/Apple, or cling to OS/2 -- Microsoft is currently the top dog. Right or wrong; I'm not taking a stance on that, here. It's going to take a lot more than this to hurt Microsoft's bottom line.
So, you know, just tell us what information you're going to collect.
Pretty sure WMV 9 works already on Linux. I've yet to need Wine to get any type of video running. MPlayer with the codec packages on their site plays everything I've come across.
That's the exact opposite of everything I've ever heard from raging feminists and church people.
I don't know how "This movie has breasts" really gives away the plot. Movies have breasts completely unrelated. "This movie has sex." I wouldn't advocate "The lead in this movie has sex with three women, one man, and a dog" detailed ratings, just a vague "Graphic Violence." "Graphic nudity." I don't know if they still do this, but HBO used to list what each movie contained with letters in their pritned program guide. SSC was Strong Sexual Content. That's about as much as I recall.
Why not in movies?
Because in the movies, you aren't partaking in the violence. So you aren't being encouraged to kill, or maim, and not face consequences. You aren't enjoying killing in movies.
Not that I agree with this stance. I think it's bull shit. I've played violent video games of all sorts since Wolfenstein 3D came out*, including Doom and the Grand Theft Auto games, and I've yet to kill someone. I haven't even been in a fight in ten years, and I was like thirteen then.
Of course, I have also consumed vast amounts of pornography, and been exposed to (thank you internet) some pretty disgusting porn. I've yet to go out and rape someone. So that's another claim (porn makes people commit rape) that is ridiculous on its face.
There are so many of us playing violent video games and looking at porn, but violence in the U.S. is on the decline, and as far as I am aware, rape is part of those statistics.
*Honestly, Pac-Man and Mario Brothers are pretty violent too. Pac-Man contains weird paranormal cannibalism, and the Mario games feature cruelty to animals. Nowhere in Vice City was I able to brutally crush a turtle with my feet.
I wouldn't care if they rated all video games heavily for sex and violence
I think they should with movies, too. But I think it should be broken into catagories. Tits should not make a game Adult Only if brutally killing people with a chain saw does not. There was a mission in Vice City where you were sent to kill a man with a chain saw. There's another where you have to kill a man's wife in a "car accident."
I cannot imagine why this would be more acceptable for a seventeen year old boy than a pair of naked breasts or even -- God forbid! -- some pixelated bush. I don't see how polygonal nipples and artificialy rendered labia are worse than polygonal brutal murders and artificially rendered blood.
Give us a rating for violence, and a rating for sex, and keep them separate because they aren't the same thing.
It's not entirely a joke name. There was a sheriff here (well, next town over) named that, and in my sister's dance school, a girl named Micah Hunt, which is only slightly better.
I'm not saying it isn't a joke name in this case, but there are people named that.
Ohmygod, did you see the angst on that redhead? You could see the future in it.
Excuse me, my angst is broke. Do you have the time?
Stop angsting around, you stupid angst!
There. I did my part.
"Angstdot.
News for ahhhh fuck it, life sucks!"
Congratulations, o ye king of nerds.
Now go wash your hair.
I'd hate for my last words to be:
"kekekeke zerg rush ^___^"
Khaed says 73.532% of statistics are bullshit.