What worries me the most is that with the advent of the internet you can put ramblings like the ones above on a web page, pimp it on slashdot by selling your "articles" on your signature
It's a fansite that I contribute to. Advertising is not cheap, and you will find that plenty of people advertise sites in sigs.
while ignorantly insulting people who just offer an opinion different to yours.
Excuse me? At which point did I insult someone? The only people who I may have insulted are those that called me an ignorant troll first.
Calling me a fanboy does not strengthen your case. Neither does sarcasm. And don't get me started on that LOL.
You obviously have a very selective memory. You accused me of being a troll, and so my accusation to you was merely to show how stupid it was.
Good-day to you, sir, and goodbye.
So you call someone an ignorant troll, but do not like it when someone says something back to you? How pathetic.
But seriously, what didn't you like about Metroid? I won't even reply or try to defend it. I am simply curious as to what you thought it lacked.
I am not saying that I didn't like it, as I did. But it certainly wasn't as good as most GC fans made out. Not being able to strafe was immensley annoying. I know it had a lock-on for combat, but you couldn't strafe when moving around - so you didn't have as much control over yourself as you needed. If I needed to make an adjustment to my postition I had to move backwards and then forwards again.
First of all, let me just say that I read your various comments on this topic and I really think that you have no idea of what you are talking about.
LOL.
Gee, thats a shock. I see this said to everyone who critisises Nintendo, and it is pathetic.
You seem intent on trolling anyone who has a Gamecube while not offering any opinions of your own
And you seem to equate not liking Nintendo games with trolling. If you do not think that I have offered my own opinions, then I suggest that you re-read my posts.
However, this is slashdot and trolling is your god-given right.
Yawn. This is is Nintendo topic, and being a Nintendo fanboy is your God-given right.
What I find amazing is that you say that Metroid Prime is just Metroid in 3d. Pardon my question but have you even played the game for more than a minute?
Yes, I have. Most people who like it go on about how it captures the Metroid gameplay perfectly. In Metroid, you start out with a weedy weapon and gradually get access to more areas of the game through aquisition of new weapons. In MP you start out with a weedy weapon and gradually get access to more areas of the game through aquisition of new weapons.
I also say that GTA3 is merely the old GTA games but in 3D as well - is that wrong?
I own all three consoles as well as a pretty high-spec PC
As do I.
and there is not one game out there that offers the immersion and playability of Metroid Prime.
I can think of plenty - Halo, PC Medal of Honor, Splinter Cell and Eternal Darkness are a few.
Saying that Metroid Prime is anything but genious is like saying that Half-Life is just Quake with a story.
Endless games with Mario in them? For the Gamecube, that would be... let's see... Mario Golf, Mario Party 4, and Super Mario Sunshine? Oh, right, and if you really want to count it, Super Smash Bros Melee. With two more coming - Mario Party 5, and Mario Kart: Double Dash.
Yup. That's the GC library. Except, of course, for Zelda, Metroid, Eternal Darkness, Pikmin, F-Zero, and Nintendo's lock on the Super Monkey Ball, Rogue Squadron, and Resident Evil series.
Out of that list, all but one of the first party games are typical Nintendo franchise games. People were moaning about Lara Croft by the time Tomb Raider III was announced - I am sick to DEATH of Mario as he has been around for probably nearly 20 years.
As you said, Nintendo's games are not much different from what they did before. So perhaps its your idea of fun that's changed, not Nintendo's games.
Hold onto that thought for a moment.
In a given year, Nintendo will make 2-3 of the best games of the year. Last year they did Eternal Darkness and Metroid Prime. This year, it looks like Zelda and F-Zero, though with Mario Kart, Pikmin 2, and their Metal Gear Solid remake, all still coming out this year, they might easily get another. On top of these instant classics, they line the edges with games that are great and worth owning - Pikmin, Mario Golf, etc.
Perhaps in your opinion they will, but not others. The only game out of that lot deserving high praise is Eternal Darkness. MP was just Metroid in 3D, and not as good as I had hoped. And how can Metal Gear Solid be so critically acclaimed, when it is just a remake of an older game?
There is no other game company that comes close to that level of quality, for either consoles or PCs. Blizzard takes 2-3 years to come out with one game as great as Zelda, Metroid, or Eternal Darkness.
But Nintendo only developed Zelda themselves - the other two were done by other development studios.
So, do I think Nintendo has lost its edge?
I think Nintendo are the only people left who have an edge.
You yourself said that their games do not change much - so how can they have an 'edge' if that is true?
Before trolling endlessly about the Gamecube, making repetative and easily refuted claims (Nintendo has no innovative games, all their games feature the Mario gang)
Ah, here we go.
Has it EVER occured to you that some people may not like Nintendo games? It is my personal opinion that the GC has only about three games worth me playing - now are you going to try and argue that I am a troll because I think that?
I also do not think their games are very innovative, and most of their games contain the same old characters - again, am I a troll for saying that?
and pimping your site, you might want to make sure your site actually loads.
It is not 'my' site, I merely contribute to it - it is undergoing a server move at the moment.
I suggest that you get it out of your head that everyone should like Nintendo games - I could quite easily call you a Nintendo fanboy but I have not.
Nintendo is doing more innovation with its system than either X-Box or Sony.
Yes, the whole GC-GBA connectivity is SO much more advanced over online gaming on the Xbox and PS2 (yes, I am being sarcastic).
First, look at the controller. Sony decided to copy its last system almost whole-sale. X-Box is absolutely abysmal.
And what exactly is the point in totally redesigning a controller each time? The GC one is far from perfect - the D-Pad is WOEFUL, the sticks are different to each other and the Z button is useless.
The problems with the Xbox pad are exaggerated, and the Controller S is a million times better anyway.
Two words: Metroid Prime.
And how is MP innovative?!? It is just Metroid in 3D!
The newest Zelda game has some of the most revolutionary graphics I've seen in a while.
It is far from innovative, as it isn't really much further on from the previous N64 Zelda games.
Lastly, is there any multiplayer game more fun and unique than Smash Brothers
SMS is just an annoying beat-em-up type game, and there are far better multiplayer games available.
On the flipside, the X-Box's main draw is yet-another-first-person-shooter.
Whereas all Nintendo can offer is yet another sequel.
The fact is, the gamecube is an excellent platform and there are a huge number of great games available,
No, that is NOT a fact. There has been more or less nothing on the GC that has interested me.
What, you'd rather support Microsoft or Sony?!
I will support whichever company gives me what I want. So far this generation, Microsoft has done that.
If you expect me to support Nintendo just for the sake of it, then you are a fool.
With such pathetically unoriginal titles like Pikmin, Warioware, and Metroid Prime
Those games are nowhere near as original as you think - ESPECIALLY Metroid Prime.
What Nintendo really needs is to start pumping out some derivative First-Person shooter titles with laggy internet support so I can get my ass kicked by cocky assholes with bad grammar.
Something that doesn't feature the Mario Gang and has a bit of ambition would be a start.
Personally, I think they have lost it.
Whilst their games used to be new and exciting, it is all the 'same old same old' these days. I am getting tired of endless games with Mario in them.
I do not find their games to be 'fun' anymore, as they are not much different to what they did before. I can enjoy 'fun' games still, and I can also enjoy more complex games like Civilisation and PC RPG's. Nintendos games do not fulfill either category for me anymore.
I agree. Gamecube gamers are not gonna buy crappy games. We know quality and that's what we expect.
Seriously, what is it about Nintendo fans and this stupid, holier-than-though attitude?
Nintendos games are no longer as high quality as they used to be, because they haven't moved on. Most of their games are just shallow, with far superior and more involving titles on other platforms - everything they do is on such a small scale.
Mario Sunshine is no more advanced than Mario 64. Zelda: WW isn't much further on from Zelda 64 or Mahjoras Mask. Animal Crossing was dreadful, and took place in a tiny field. Doshin the Giant, don't even get me started.
The only GC games I have taken any interest in are Super Monkey Ball and Eternal Darkness (ED is actually one of my fave current gen games). I had real high hopes for PN03, but it certainly isn't as good as I had hoped - it's far from being the classic I had been looking forward to.
Yeah, a crowbar (which anyone can buy anywhere) or a stone to break down a glass door.
Ah, so now you admit they will be armed - thats certainly a world away from what you said before.
If I have to protect myself, then I am not going to want to have something that is equal to what the other person has - I am going to want something BETTER.
No. Just to your property. Have a reality check.
LOL. Nice snippage there.
As I said, my house is not merely a shell - psychologically it is far more than that. If someone breaks into my house, then that is a threat to myself.
I suggest that you get a reality check yorself - we are animals, and when we are threatened our base instinct is to protect ourselves.
The fact that thanks to the strict anti-gun laws, it is incredibly hard to get a firearm here in Britain and you've got to be a fucking lunatic to use it.
If someone break into my house, then they will have used something to get in - thefore, they are armed with something.
So, in other words, a human life to you is worth less than your property? What a humanitarian.
If someone is breaking into my house, then that is a personal threat to my life.
My house is not merely a shell that I eat and shit in - psychologically it is far more than that.
Quicksave is terrible, and often leads to lazy design in the levels.
Well-designed auto-save points are the best way - look at how Medal of Honor and Halo work. They are frequent enough to avoid repetition, but far enough apart so as not to kill the challenge.
Because spectators find it entertaining to watch. Damn near everybody has tried to hit a golf ball, and knows exactly how difficult what Tiger Woods does really is.
Ah, so now we get down to the crux of the matter. What you are saying here is totally and utterly different to what you said before - why the sudden change of heart?
What you say is false, anyway - I certainly would not pay to watch anyone play the likes of golf, cricket, baseball or bowls. I would rather watch someone play Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory.
Will Wolfenstein and Quake be around forever like chess and the 100m dash?
What the hell has time and tradition got to do with any of it? People are still playing older games like Counter Strike, so it isn't like a game only lasts 2 weeks.
100m dash: an easy to measure test of man's physical achievements.
Great! I get to see someone move their legs faster than someone else for about 10 seconds! WOW!
Doom III: a computer game that only runs well on very current hardware that will itself be obsolete (by cutting-edge gaming standards) in less than 24 months from now.
And your point is...?
This article is about "pro" gamers not being able to quit their regular jobs to pursue their dreams of living off of playing video games. That sounds about right to me, as I'd hate to think about who else "deserves" such a lifestyle. Ultimate frisbee champs? Cup-n-ball masters?
Oh, so it is all about jealousy? Exactly why should someone who plays golf, cricket, baseball or bowls be paid such vast sums? Those are not particulary engaging, physical or mentally demanding sports. A game of Civilisation demands more from a person than those do.
Man #1: "Nice car, bro! So, what do you do for a living?"
Man #2: "I put my hand down on a table and stab the gaps between my fingers really really fast with a steak knife."
We can all be stupid about this;
"I made my money by moving my legs really fast!"
"I made my money by moving my arms and legs really fast in water!"
"I made my money by hitting a ball into a hole!"
"I made my money by moving some funny shaped objects around on a bit of wood with black and white squares!"
Why would someone competing in a single olympic sport be under more mental stress than someone playing a computer game proffesionally?
Chess does not require a great deal of intelligence to play (you can be good at chess, without being Dr Brainbox). Your comments about intelligence are redundant because a top athlete does not need to be particulary clever to compete with the best.
To play a computer game at the top of the league requires a great deal of strategy. Something like Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory and Planetside are more than just about shooting people. And then you have all the RTS games, and also games like Civilisation.
Right, because the point to a game is always beating it. I'm sure you're the Rez Master, pal
I didn't do all that just for the sake of getting it - I did it because I thoroughly enjoyed it. I managed to unlock most of the 'Beyond' items as well. If I hadn't of enjoyed it, I wouldn't have bothered.
Everything in this game is tied to the music- that's one of the main concepts of the game. Every moving element in the environment has rhythms and patterns associated with it, both aurally and visually. For instance, each enemy class has unique sounds for each of their actions (such as shooting, approaching, evading, death) and the player has unique sounds depending on form (exp. level, basically).
Right. That is called 'sound effects', something that just about every single game created has. Just because Rez uses musical notes instead of explosions doesn't make it into some new-age experience.
There is no music in this game- the "music" is just the multiplexed stream of sounds generated by the actions of elements in the game (including the player) and a simple ambient background track. If you play the game such that you are in sync with the beat of the level, and with the overall harmony of the area you are in, your actions will produce much more pleasant music.
Freak.
We ARE talking about the same things here, right? A game, and not some religious cult that you have got absorbed into...?
If you just shoot everything you see like you were playing Space Harrier, you get a collection of beeps and boops each time you hit X. But you can still beat the game that way, so what's the point, right?
Well, I would die if I didn't shoot everything.
I'm "babbling on" about the point of this entire discussion. Most people are like you- they play games, they beat them, they see no further value. This is why games are completely uncreative and why producers keep churning out sequels: it's all people care about. Anything above and beyond that is lost on the unappreciative masses.
You are babbling on about something that isn't there.
Your comment about me beating games and seeing no further value in them is just as ridiculous - I played the game repeatedly, as I thought it was great. If I was one of the 'unappreciative masses', then I would not have bought the game in the first place - I certainly don't buy shite sequels.
BS! You may have played the game til the end, but you missed the point entirely.
LOL. I managed to play the game and get the hardest ending... yet I missed the point entirely? Erm, no.
And then, having the music (and, to a lesser degree, the vibration) tied into the visuals, all of which are hooked up to a feedback loop through you, the player...
And how on earth does the music tie up to the visuals? The only way it changes is when you shoot those square blocks - the background changes and the music speeds up a bit. How does that tie in with anything?
well, it all adds up to what they call it: synestaesia. If you haven't experienced this while playing Rez, then you haven't experienced the game at all.
Oh good God. Please, that is such bullshit.
Anyway, it's the totally ignorant view of the majority that Rez is "just another rail shooter" and that there's "nothing special" about it.
At what point did I say that it was nothing special? Though that doesn't stop it merely being an on-rails shooter, no matter how good it is.
If that's all you want to put into it, that's all you're going to get out of it. If you're open to it, it can be an experience like no other game you've played.
Eh? I have already said that I think it is a great game, so what are babbling on about?
If not, go back to playing Tux Racer or whatever it is that you consider original and STFU!
Ah, I see. You are just a child who is stamping her feet in a tantrum.
If he really didn't want people changing it, he probably shouldn't have released it for a system that didn't have a hard drive, or made sure your game didn't use that hard drive in a way that allowed people to replace your crap.
Typical ignorant reply. If someone develops a game, and does not want it to be modded then what is wrong with that? The Xbox itself wasn't made for the purpose of modding, so your comment is stupid.
If someone does not want their IP being fiddled around with, then that is fair enough. To say that it is their own fault for putting it on system X is ridiculous.
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What worries me the most is that with the advent of the internet you can put ramblings like the ones above on a web page, pimp it on slashdot by selling your "articles" on your signature
It's a fansite that I contribute to. Advertising is not cheap, and you will find that plenty of people advertise sites in sigs.
while ignorantly insulting people who just offer an opinion different to yours.
Excuse me? At which point did I insult someone? The only people who I may have insulted are those that called me an ignorant troll first.
Calling me a fanboy does not strengthen your case. Neither does sarcasm. And don't get me started on that LOL.
You obviously have a very selective memory. You accused me of being a troll, and so my accusation to you was merely to show how stupid it was.
Good-day to you, sir, and goodbye.
So you call someone an ignorant troll, but do not like it when someone says something back to you? How pathetic.
Actually, if you hold down L you will strafe
But then I cannot turn. I meant that you cannot turn and strafe at the same time.
he inovative point about Metroid Prime is that they succesfully translated a 2D game in to the 3d world mantaining it's roots!
Sorry, but that is not actually innovative in the slightest.
But seriously, what didn't you like about Metroid? I won't even reply or try to defend it. I am simply curious as to what you thought it lacked.
I am not saying that I didn't like it, as I did. But it certainly wasn't as good as most GC fans made out. Not being able to strafe was immensley annoying. I know it had a lock-on for combat, but you couldn't strafe when moving around - so you didn't have as much control over yourself as you needed. If I needed to make an adjustment to my postition I had to move backwards and then forwards again.
I think it can be objectively and empirically stated:
"Metroid Prime 0nwz"
If you can't agree, well then it would be like you saying "There is no oxygen in the air": you would simply be wrong.
The sad thing is, you are totally and utterly serious.
First of all, let me just say that I read your various comments on this topic and I really think that you have no idea of what you are talking about.
LOL.
Gee, thats a shock. I see this said to everyone who critisises Nintendo, and it is pathetic.
You seem intent on trolling anyone who has a Gamecube while not offering any opinions of your own
And you seem to equate not liking Nintendo games with trolling. If you do not think that I have offered my own opinions, then I suggest that you re-read my posts.
However, this is slashdot and trolling is your god-given right.
Yawn. This is is Nintendo topic, and being a Nintendo fanboy is your God-given right.
What I find amazing is that you say that Metroid Prime is just Metroid in 3d. Pardon my question but have you even played the game for more than a minute?
Yes, I have. Most people who like it go on about how it captures the Metroid gameplay perfectly. In Metroid, you start out with a weedy weapon and gradually get access to more areas of the game through aquisition of new weapons. In MP you start out with a weedy weapon and gradually get access to more areas of the game through aquisition of new weapons.
I also say that GTA3 is merely the old GTA games but in 3D as well - is that wrong?
I own all three consoles as well as a pretty high-spec PC
As do I.
and there is not one game out there that offers the immersion and playability of Metroid Prime.
I can think of plenty - Halo, PC Medal of Honor, Splinter Cell and Eternal Darkness are a few.
Saying that Metroid Prime is anything but genious is like saying that Half-Life is just Quake with a story.
Sorry, but MP is far from being genius.
Endless games with Mario in them? For the Gamecube, that would be... let's see... Mario Golf, Mario Party 4, and Super Mario Sunshine? Oh, right, and if you really want to count it, Super Smash Bros Melee. With two more coming - Mario Party 5, and Mario Kart: Double Dash.
Yup. That's the GC library. Except, of course, for Zelda, Metroid, Eternal Darkness, Pikmin, F-Zero, and Nintendo's lock on the Super Monkey Ball, Rogue Squadron, and Resident Evil series.
Out of that list, all but one of the first party games are typical Nintendo franchise games. People were moaning about Lara Croft by the time Tomb Raider III was announced - I am sick to DEATH of Mario as he has been around for probably nearly 20 years.
As you said, Nintendo's games are not much different from what they did before. So perhaps its your idea of fun that's changed, not Nintendo's games.
Hold onto that thought for a moment.
In a given year, Nintendo will make 2-3 of the best games of the year. Last year they did Eternal Darkness and Metroid Prime. This year, it looks like Zelda and F-Zero, though with Mario Kart, Pikmin 2, and their Metal Gear Solid remake, all still coming out this year, they might easily get another. On top of these instant classics, they line the edges with games that are great and worth owning - Pikmin, Mario Golf, etc.
Perhaps in your opinion they will, but not others. The only game out of that lot deserving high praise is Eternal Darkness. MP was just Metroid in 3D, and not as good as I had hoped. And how can Metal Gear Solid be so critically acclaimed, when it is just a remake of an older game?
There is no other game company that comes close to that level of quality, for either consoles or PCs. Blizzard takes 2-3 years to come out with one game as great as Zelda, Metroid, or Eternal Darkness.
But Nintendo only developed Zelda themselves - the other two were done by other development studios.
So, do I think Nintendo has lost its edge?
I think Nintendo are the only people left who have an edge.
You yourself said that their games do not change much - so how can they have an 'edge' if that is true?
Before trolling endlessly about the Gamecube, making repetative and easily refuted claims (Nintendo has no innovative games, all their games feature the Mario gang)
Ah, here we go.
Has it EVER occured to you that some people may not like Nintendo games? It is my personal opinion that the GC has only about three games worth me playing - now are you going to try and argue that I am a troll because I think that?
I also do not think their games are very innovative, and most of their games contain the same old characters - again, am I a troll for saying that?
and pimping your site, you might want to make sure your site actually loads.
It is not 'my' site, I merely contribute to it - it is undergoing a server move at the moment.
I suggest that you get it out of your head that everyone should like Nintendo games - I could quite easily call you a Nintendo fanboy but I have not.
Actually it is a fact. We are discussing the Gamecube game library not what Mike Mentalist is interested in.
LOL!
How can it be a 'fact' when it is totally dependent on opinion?
Nintendo is doing more innovation with its system than either X-Box or Sony.
Yes, the whole GC-GBA connectivity is SO much more advanced over online gaming on the Xbox and PS2 (yes, I am being sarcastic).
First, look at the controller. Sony decided to copy its last system almost whole-sale. X-Box is absolutely abysmal.
And what exactly is the point in totally redesigning a controller each time? The GC one is far from perfect - the D-Pad is WOEFUL, the sticks are different to each other and the Z button is useless.
The problems with the Xbox pad are exaggerated, and the Controller S is a million times better anyway.
Two words: Metroid Prime.
And how is MP innovative?!? It is just Metroid in 3D!
The newest Zelda game has some of the most revolutionary graphics I've seen in a while.
It is far from innovative, as it isn't really much further on from the previous N64 Zelda games.
Lastly, is there any multiplayer game more fun and unique than Smash Brothers
SMS is just an annoying beat-em-up type game, and there are far better multiplayer games available.
On the flipside, the X-Box's main draw is yet-another-first-person-shooter.
Whereas all Nintendo can offer is yet another sequel.
The fact is, the gamecube is an excellent platform and there are a huge number of great games available,
No, that is NOT a fact. There has been more or less nothing on the GC that has interested me.
What, you'd rather support Microsoft or Sony?!
I will support whichever company gives me what I want. So far this generation, Microsoft has done that.
If you expect me to support Nintendo just for the sake of it, then you are a fool.
With such pathetically unoriginal titles like Pikmin, Warioware, and Metroid Prime
Those games are nowhere near as original as you think - ESPECIALLY Metroid Prime.
What Nintendo really needs is to start pumping out some derivative First-Person shooter titles with laggy internet support so I can get my ass kicked by cocky assholes with bad grammar.
Something that doesn't feature the Mario Gang and has a bit of ambition would be a start.
Personally, I think they have lost it.
Whilst their games used to be new and exciting, it is all the 'same old same old' these days. I am getting tired of endless games with Mario in them.
I do not find their games to be 'fun' anymore, as they are not much different to what they did before. I can enjoy 'fun' games still, and I can also enjoy more complex games like Civilisation and PC RPG's. Nintendos games do not fulfill either category for me anymore.
I agree. Gamecube gamers are not gonna buy crappy games. We know quality and that's what we expect.
Seriously, what is it about Nintendo fans and this stupid, holier-than-though attitude?
Nintendos games are no longer as high quality as they used to be, because they haven't moved on. Most of their games are just shallow, with far superior and more involving titles on other platforms - everything they do is on such a small scale.
Mario Sunshine is no more advanced than Mario 64. Zelda: WW isn't much further on from Zelda 64 or Mahjoras Mask. Animal Crossing was dreadful, and took place in a tiny field. Doshin the Giant, don't even get me started.
The only GC games I have taken any interest in are Super Monkey Ball and Eternal Darkness (ED is actually one of my fave current gen games). I had real high hopes for PN03, but it certainly isn't as good as I had hoped - it's far from being the classic I had been looking forward to.
i'm thrilled that Rockstar understands what system made GTA Popular and is catering to it first.
It was popular back when it first came out, for Gods sake.
Spong.com is a VERY reputable gaming information site
Oh good God. You cannot be serious about this comment - please tell me that you are joking.
Yeah, a crowbar (which anyone can buy anywhere) or a stone to break down a glass door.
Ah, so now you admit they will be armed - thats certainly a world away from what you said before.
If I have to protect myself, then I am not going to want to have something that is equal to what the other person has - I am going to want something BETTER.
No. Just to your property. Have a reality check.
LOL. Nice snippage there.
As I said, my house is not merely a shell - psychologically it is far more than that. If someone breaks into my house, then that is a threat to myself.
I suggest that you get a reality check yorself - we are animals, and when we are threatened our base instinct is to protect ourselves.
The fact that thanks to the strict anti-gun laws, it is incredibly hard to get a firearm here in Britain and you've got to be a fucking lunatic to use it.
If someone break into my house, then they will have used something to get in - thefore, they are armed with something.
So, in other words, a human life to you is worth less than your property? What a humanitarian.
If someone is breaking into my house, then that is a personal threat to my life.
My house is not merely a shell that I eat and shit in - psychologically it is far more than that.
Quicksave is terrible, and often leads to lazy design in the levels.
Well-designed auto-save points are the best way - look at how Medal of Honor and Halo work. They are frequent enough to avoid repetition, but far enough apart so as not to kill the challenge.
Because spectators find it entertaining to watch. Damn near everybody has tried to hit a golf ball, and knows exactly how difficult what Tiger Woods does really is.
Ah, so now we get down to the crux of the matter. What you are saying here is totally and utterly different to what you said before - why the sudden change of heart?
What you say is false, anyway - I certainly would not pay to watch anyone play the likes of golf, cricket, baseball or bowls. I would rather watch someone play Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory.
More ignorance.
Will Wolfenstein and Quake be around forever like chess and the 100m dash?
What the hell has time and tradition got to do with any of it? People are still playing older games like Counter Strike, so it isn't like a game only lasts 2 weeks.
100m dash: an easy to measure test of man's physical achievements.
Great! I get to see someone move their legs faster than someone else for about 10 seconds! WOW!
Doom III: a computer game that only runs well on very current hardware that will itself be obsolete (by cutting-edge gaming standards) in less than 24 months from now.
And your point is...?
This article is about "pro" gamers not being able to quit their regular jobs to pursue their dreams of living off of playing video games. That sounds about right to me, as I'd hate to think about who else "deserves" such a lifestyle. Ultimate frisbee champs? Cup-n-ball masters?
Oh, so it is all about jealousy? Exactly why should someone who plays golf, cricket, baseball or bowls be paid such vast sums? Those are not particulary engaging, physical or mentally demanding sports. A game of Civilisation demands more from a person than those do.
Man #1: "Nice car, bro! So, what do you do for a living?" Man #2: "I put my hand down on a table and stab the gaps between my fingers really really fast with a steak knife."
We can all be stupid about this;
"I made my money by moving my legs really fast!"
"I made my money by moving my arms and legs really fast in water!"
"I made my money by hitting a ball into a hole!"
"I made my money by moving some funny shaped objects around on a bit of wood with black and white squares!"
You are very ignorant.
Why would someone competing in a single olympic sport be under more mental stress than someone playing a computer game proffesionally?
Chess does not require a great deal of intelligence to play (you can be good at chess, without being Dr Brainbox). Your comments about intelligence are redundant because a top athlete does not need to be particulary clever to compete with the best.
To play a computer game at the top of the league requires a great deal of strategy. Something like Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory and Planetside are more than just about shooting people. And then you have all the RTS games, and also games like Civilisation.
He may not have been talking deathmatch style multiplayer - I know that I really want a decent FPS games that can be played co-op on my LAN.
I was really dissapointed that Medal of Honor didn't have a co-op mode.
Right, because the point to a game is always beating it. I'm sure you're the Rez Master, pal
I didn't do all that just for the sake of getting it - I did it because I thoroughly enjoyed it. I managed to unlock most of the 'Beyond' items as well. If I hadn't of enjoyed it, I wouldn't have bothered.
Everything in this game is tied to the music- that's one of the main concepts of the game. Every moving element in the environment has rhythms and patterns associated with it, both aurally and visually. For instance, each enemy class has unique sounds for each of their actions (such as shooting, approaching, evading, death) and the player has unique sounds depending on form (exp. level, basically).
Right. That is called 'sound effects', something that just about every single game created has. Just because Rez uses musical notes instead of explosions doesn't make it into some new-age experience.
There is no music in this game- the "music" is just the multiplexed stream of sounds generated by the actions of elements in the game (including the player) and a simple ambient background track. If you play the game such that you are in sync with the beat of the level, and with the overall harmony of the area you are in, your actions will produce much more pleasant music.
Freak.
We ARE talking about the same things here, right? A game, and not some religious cult that you have got absorbed into...?
If you just shoot everything you see like you were playing Space Harrier, you get a collection of beeps and boops each time you hit X. But you can still beat the game that way, so what's the point, right?
Well, I would die if I didn't shoot everything.
I'm "babbling on" about the point of this entire discussion. Most people are like you- they play games, they beat them, they see no further value. This is why games are completely uncreative and why producers keep churning out sequels: it's all people care about. Anything above and beyond that is lost on the unappreciative masses.
You are babbling on about something that isn't there.
Your comment about me beating games and seeing no further value in them is just as ridiculous - I played the game repeatedly, as I thought it was great. If I was one of the 'unappreciative masses', then I would not have bought the game in the first place - I certainly don't buy shite sequels.
BS! You may have played the game til the end, but you missed the point entirely.
LOL. I managed to play the game and get the hardest ending... yet I missed the point entirely? Erm, no.
And then, having the music (and, to a lesser degree, the vibration) tied into the visuals, all of which are hooked up to a feedback loop through you, the player...
And how on earth does the music tie up to the visuals? The only way it changes is when you shoot those square blocks - the background changes and the music speeds up a bit. How does that tie in with anything?
well, it all adds up to what they call it: synestaesia. If you haven't experienced this while playing Rez, then you haven't experienced the game at all.
Oh good God. Please, that is such bullshit.
Anyway, it's the totally ignorant view of the majority that Rez is "just another rail shooter" and that there's "nothing special" about it.
At what point did I say that it was nothing special? Though that doesn't stop it merely being an on-rails shooter, no matter how good it is.
If that's all you want to put into it, that's all you're going to get out of it. If you're open to it, it can be an experience like no other game you've played.
Eh? I have already said that I think it is a great game, so what are babbling on about?
If not, go back to playing Tux Racer or whatever it is that you consider original and STFU!
Ah, I see. You are just a child who is stamping her feet in a tantrum.
If he really didn't want people changing it, he probably shouldn't have released it for a system that didn't have a hard drive, or made sure your game didn't use that hard drive in a way that allowed people to replace your crap.
Typical ignorant reply. If someone develops a game, and does not want it to be modded then what is wrong with that? The Xbox itself wasn't made for the purpose of modding, so your comment is stupid.
If someone does not want their IP being fiddled around with, then that is fair enough. To say that it is their own fault for putting it on system X is ridiculous.