"A trap to capture various monkeys used around the world which consists of a staked container with a hole cut into it just wide enough for a monkey to stick it's empty hand into. The container is baited with something attractive to the monkey. Monkey reaches for bait and then will not release the bait and cannot pull it's hand out of the trap with bait in hand. It is then captured."
That really is a brilliant idea. If they want to show leadership, they should do just that. See the chart at the bottom of this page. What does $5.8 million come out to in Indian wages? (Sure that. a termination package, but I think it gives a hint.)
Majority rule is not a necessary corollary of open governance. Especially if there are too many issues for everyone to participate in every decision. Please see the source site.
Treat the people like morons, and surprise: they act like morons.
Treat the people with respect and gradually let them work into a position of responsibility, and you may be pleasantly surprised by the "wisdom of crowds."
Or do you really think that handful of corrupt politicians in charge of each government are really better than an open, carefully thought out, modern governance structure?
Show of hands... how many slashdotters use Google for multiple services?
Next question; why do you trust them so much? What makes them so radically different from Microsoft or Apple?
Once they become the Borgle, do you really think they'll do no evil with the vast amount of data you are giving them? Remember, this means not just your actual data, but also all the implications they can draw from your data habits.
Hi, I admin the list in question and just saw this. The list is a default installation of Mailman, and I have no idea why it would give that error. If you write to contact(at)metagovernment(dot)org, I will subscribe you manually.
Also, if you could forward that error message to the above address, I can try to debug (but again, it is a default install as provided by a standard Cpanel host).
There is what you say about yourself... then there is what you reveal about yourself.
For example, every website you ever visit logs every file you access and associates it with your IP. (And your ISP has logs of what IP they have issued to you at what time... and many ISPs are handing out very static IPs these days.) Many of those sites then store those logs into long-term archives. Interestingly, the site author isn't necessarily the log keeper. For example, Google, not Blogger-users, gets to see who looks at what blog.
And, like many, many people here, if you have a Google account (or MSN or Yahoo or whatnot) then every web search you do on that company's site is directly associated with you.
Tilling through all those logs may seem irrational and fruitless. And what after all is the point of looking at everything everyone has done? But the point is that someone with access to that data can find you if they are looking for you. This may not seem relevant to you at the moment, but it may become relevant decades from now... and there the data is, waiting to be dug up with relative ease. For example, try applying for a job in the Obama administration.:)
Since the inception of the web, I have been wondering how much longer privacy could last.
People who have grown up with the web tell everything about themselves freely on sites like MySpace. I don't know if this is because they are just stupid from youth or if it is a different paradigm than the old folks had.
But in any event it is clear that privacy is diminishing rapidly. Look at cameras. Everyone carries a camera in their pocket now. Anyone can set up a wifi-connected miniature webcam with very little effort or cost. It's not even very difficult to listen through walls (or especially windows) nor to see at least heat traces through walls. And of course, there are satellites watching everything we do at least outside of walls.
Then think about things like grocery store cards, credit cards, online accounts... And how many people here use a plethora of Google accounts with the blind faith that a mere slogan (Do No Evil) will somehow protect their privacy? Really?
Then think about how cheap data storage is and how everything is not only logged but archived. It might not be used today, but it can be accessed ten years from now, or twenty, or fifty. After all, computers of a decade from now will be able to eat petabytes like Tic-Tacs.
Expecting to maintain an old-school sense of privacy is probably not realistic in this, um, brave new world we live in.
A message board in your car wouldn't necessarily have to give the finger or otherwise be witty/rude.
There are times when a rear-pointing message board could be extremely useful. Such as: Your high-beams are on. Your headlights are off. Careful, the driver next to me is drunk.
And so on.
However, such signs very well may be illegal in some jurisdictions.
That's a trite sentiment, but if you give it some thought, you may draw more nuanced conclusions.
There are indeed some violent police and even some violent police jurisdictions. But in most cases, the police are orderly, law abiding, and far better than the mob (etc.).
The options on the table here are the status quo, complete anarchy (read: rule by the most violent), or some sort of consensus government like the Metagovernment. The last one is by far the least susceptible to abuse of power.
This becomes much more difficult when the servers are distributed around the world, the government has no leaders, and communities are not necessarily associated with geography.
People with guns are always trying to tell other people what to do. That's why we have police (and it is why yes, we do need government). The Metagovernment doesn't remove police.
And, as one who used to buy from CDW on a corporate account... they give a discount for those accounts. Though I have to admit it's usually rather pathetic. For big-ticket items, I would usually have to talk them down or shop elsewhere.
For comparison, an Imation 128GB costs between $1,900 and $2,500.
I'd guess that the Samsung 256GB ones would therefore cost in the range of $5,000 +/- $2,000 (probably more likely +, given there's usually a premium for new and for bigger).
Having a large ass is not necessary an indicator of weight. For example, I know a couple women who could easily overflow two airline seats; yet they are quite short and I would guess they weigh well under 200 pounds. Conversely, I know guys who can easily fit in an airline seat with room to spare, yet who weigh at least 200 pounds.
Or to put it another way: 1. Some people have a large ass out of all proportion to their body. 2. By volume, muscle weighs a lot more than fat.
Do they also subject other spiders to acceleration similar to that experienced in takeoff?
Otherwise, it seems you wouldn't know if any differences in web construction were due to weightlessness or to the possible residual effects of takeoff.
Depends on the species. I have personally seen a spider literally eat a fly, carefully biting and chewing it piece by piece. In about three minutes, there was nothing at all left of the fly. I have no idea what species it was, but based on this one anecdote, I can guess that at least some spiders ingest the entire prey, even if they cannot digest all of it.
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Reference: Monkey Trap.
"A trap to capture various monkeys used around the world which consists of a staked container with a hole cut into it just wide enough for a monkey to stick it's empty hand into. The container is baited with something attractive to the monkey. Monkey reaches for bait and then will not release the bait and cannot pull it's hand out of the trap with bait in hand. It is then captured."
That really is a brilliant idea. If they want to show leadership, they should do just that. See the chart at the bottom of this page. What does $5.8 million come out to in Indian wages? (Sure that. a termination package, but I think it gives a hint.)
Majority rule is not a necessary corollary of open governance. Especially if there are too many issues for everyone to participate in every decision. Please see the source site.
Treat the people like morons, and surprise: they act like morons.
Treat the people with respect and gradually let them work into a position of responsibility, and you may be pleasantly surprised by the "wisdom of crowds."
Or do you really think that handful of corrupt politicians in charge of each government are really better than an open, carefully thought out, modern governance structure?
Show of hands... how many slashdotters use Google for multiple services?
Next question; why do you trust them so much? What makes them so radically different from Microsoft or Apple?
Once they become the Borgle, do you really think they'll do no evil with the vast amount of data you are giving them? Remember, this means not just your actual data, but also all the implications they can draw from your data habits.
Well, there's iron in your blood... :)
Hi, I admin the list in question and just saw this. The list is a default installation of Mailman, and I have no idea why it would give that error. If you write to contact(at)metagovernment(dot)org, I will subscribe you manually.
Also, if you could forward that error message to the above address, I can try to debug (but again, it is a default install as provided by a standard Cpanel host).
Maybe we should all just wear swimsuits in the shower.
Next step: surgical concealment of anything which might lead to temptation.
OS not fast enough? Just upgrade your hardware components, preferably to a new, top-of-the-line system.
Oh wait... that's the Windows way of doing things.
Informal personality tests are often administered by women to gauge males' employability as a boyfriend/husband.
This often doesn't go well for those in "an IT or more technical context"
There is what you say about yourself... then there is what you reveal about yourself.
For example, every website you ever visit logs every file you access and associates it with your IP. (And your ISP has logs of what IP they have issued to you at what time... and many ISPs are handing out very static IPs these days.) Many of those sites then store those logs into long-term archives. Interestingly, the site author isn't necessarily the log keeper. For example, Google, not Blogger-users, gets to see who looks at what blog.
And, like many, many people here, if you have a Google account (or MSN or Yahoo or whatnot) then every web search you do on that company's site is directly associated with you.
Tilling through all those logs may seem irrational and fruitless. And what after all is the point of looking at everything everyone has done? But the point is that someone with access to that data can find you if they are looking for you. This may not seem relevant to you at the moment, but it may become relevant decades from now... and there the data is, waiting to be dug up with relative ease. For example, try applying for a job in the Obama administration. :)
Since the inception of the web, I have been wondering how much longer privacy could last.
People who have grown up with the web tell everything about themselves freely on sites like MySpace. I don't know if this is because they are just stupid from youth or if it is a different paradigm than the old folks had.
But in any event it is clear that privacy is diminishing rapidly. Look at cameras. Everyone carries a camera in their pocket now. Anyone can set up a wifi-connected miniature webcam with very little effort or cost. It's not even very difficult to listen through walls (or especially windows) nor to see at least heat traces through walls. And of course, there are satellites watching everything we do at least outside of walls.
Then think about things like grocery store cards, credit cards, online accounts... And how many people here use a plethora of Google accounts with the blind faith that a mere slogan (Do No Evil) will somehow protect their privacy? Really?
Then think about how cheap data storage is and how everything is not only logged but archived. It might not be used today, but it can be accessed ten years from now, or twenty, or fifty. After all, computers of a decade from now will be able to eat petabytes like Tic-Tacs.
Expecting to maintain an old-school sense of privacy is probably not realistic in this, um, brave new world we live in.
It is often the case that "gaming" is code for "porn." That's just how they have to market it to the mainstream.
Same as how "home video" was code for "home porn."
Same as how "internet access" was code for "porn access."
Same as how "broadband" is code for "more porn."
Same as how "high-def" is code for "clearer porn."
You get the picture.
(Which is code for "you get porn.")
Oh boy. Not only does this add a whole new dimension to porn, it also means people will be walking and porning. Yeesh.
A message board in your car wouldn't necessarily have to give the finger or otherwise be witty/rude.
There are times when a rear-pointing message board could be extremely useful. Such as:
Your high-beams are on.
Your headlights are off.
Careful, the driver next to me is drunk.
And so on.
However, such signs very well may be illegal in some jurisdictions.
That's a trite sentiment, but if you give it some thought, you may draw more nuanced conclusions.
There are indeed some violent police and even some violent police jurisdictions. But in most cases, the police are orderly, law abiding, and far better than the mob (etc.).
The options on the table here are the status quo, complete anarchy (read: rule by the most violent), or some sort of consensus government like the Metagovernment. The last one is by far the least susceptible to abuse of power.
This becomes much more difficult when the servers are distributed around the world, the government has no leaders, and communities are not necessarily associated with geography.
People with guns are always trying to tell other people what to do. That's why we have police (and it is why yes, we do need government). The Metagovernment doesn't remove police.
It's an open project in an early stage of development. You are encouraged to contribute your vision to it instead of inventing a competitor.
It's a baseline. :)
And, as one who used to buy from CDW on a corporate account... they give a discount for those accounts. Though I have to admit it's usually rather pathetic. For big-ticket items, I would usually have to talk them down or shop elsewhere.
For comparison, an Imation 128GB costs between $1,900 and $2,500.
I'd guess that the Samsung 256GB ones would therefore cost in the range of $5,000 +/- $2,000 (probably more likely +, given there's usually a premium for new and for bigger).
Having a large ass is not necessary an indicator of weight. For example, I know a couple women who could easily overflow two airline seats; yet they are quite short and I would guess they weigh well under 200 pounds. Conversely, I know guys who can easily fit in an airline seat with room to spare, yet who weigh at least 200 pounds.
Or to put it another way:
1. Some people have a large ass out of all proportion to their body.
2. By volume, muscle weighs a lot more than fat.
(Sorry... can't find the video; SNL's crackin' down, I guess. All I got is some transcript.)
Do they also subject other spiders to acceleration similar to that experienced in takeoff?
Otherwise, it seems you wouldn't know if any differences in web construction were due to weightlessness or to the possible residual effects of takeoff.
Depends on the species. I have personally seen a spider literally eat a fly, carefully biting and chewing it piece by piece. In about three minutes, there was nothing at all left of the fly. I have no idea what species it was, but based on this one anecdote, I can guess that at least some spiders ingest the entire prey, even if they cannot digest all of it.
Imagine a beowulf cluster of those.
(Man, isn't everyone tired of that joke by now? Oh, you are? Sorry.)