We in the EU do not have a totalitarian regime! Now, socialism, that's another matter. I love it. It compiles so smoothly on my gcc (Greenpeace C Compiler(tm)).
If (many will argue When would be the right term) they lose the lawsuits, and it is found that Linux contains no code that is part of their IP. Will they automatically grant complete refunds (none of this $99 processing fee cra) to those who purchased a pointless license from them.
No.
If not, why?
Some nasty little thing called 'bankruptcy'
Mind you, I have to make a mental note to hang out the flag (any flag really, but one with a penguin in particular would be nice) the day SCO and Darl bite the dust and get shoved 6 ft. deep.
As a matter of fact, the EU is probably the worlds biggest trade area (not in landmass, but in people) with over half a billion citizens around the continent next year and already way past the 300 million mark.
Losing - or even partially losing - the EU and its inhabitants would mean a serious catastrophy for MS.
And that means only one thing: it would rock:)
Could you elaborate on this? Saying 'linux isn't a good desktop OS because I think Windows is better', is a pretty crappy argument. And apart from that: how long did it take you to learn to work with windows? huh? three month? Fuck no, you probably started it off way in the beginning with DOS, just like zillions of other serfs. Fair comparisson? I GUESS NOT!
($2.4 million initially) + (10 * $800K) = $ 10,400,000. That is definitly a lot of cash. You will have to look at the big picture though. On the one hand, moving the school to some free software product will save on the licensing costs, but the project will also cost a significant amount of money (think of Unix-admins (which are notoriously more expensive than MCSE-people, which come free with every gallon of milk you buy at your local Wall Mart), training for both staff and students, etc.). Of course, another opinion is lurking around the corner: it isn't very hard to imagine a situation in which you just call OpenOffice.org Writer "Word". Most essays and papers don't contain very difficult Word-only stuff anyway (I am a Ph. D. researcher myself, so I read a paper every now and then). My guess is a lot of people won't even notice ("Hey, this is a neat version of Word, it looks cool. Nice birds. Starts a little slow though. Oh, what the heck.")
But let's cut the crap. What I am trying to say is you will have to evaluate your specific situation a bit deeper. What do people need to do on those workstations? Is there some program everyone ab-so-lutely _needs_ to use which only runs on Microsoft OS? Can the school aford taking point in this, or would it be better to let others do the scouting? From personal experience I can tell you, that it is possible to do academic work on Linux workstations. Even as a lawyer. (Yes. I know. Yes. I am sorry. Yes.) And if we can, anyone can!
To put an end to this: almost two-and-a-half million dollars seems to me like enough to migrate a whole lot of computers with. Not needing to buy new MS-ish licenses, you can spend the 800 grand the following ten years buying new workstations AND paying admins. Probably won't be enough, but if you add half your anual budget you spend NOW to that, I think it might be. Seems like you have nothing to lose: go for it! (After doing some more math of course. You can never do enough math in these situation. We need more math. Math! Math! Math! Basicly, my guess is, that this is just a simple equation...)
'And we're not talking about one track here, one track there,' he said. 'We're talking piracy, significant examples of piracy.'
Doesn't this mean, that having 'some tracks' and swapping those 'some tracks' would be insufficient for the RIAA et al. to go berzerk on you? Doesn't this sound like "Heck, if you're just some minor swapper swapping, we'll go easy on you and more or less tollerate your behaviour"? Or is it just me and does it sound like "We'll go for the big fish first and will then go stamp on all you little fish too [insert evil laughter]" to the rest of you?
I do hope you are aware of the fact that you sound _very_ dull at the moment. Virtually everything knows what we talk about when we mention 'linux' in this context. Everyone knows that we are comparing the kernel & the interface to windows, when we compare the use of it for home users. What are you complaining about?
When people say Windows is more complete than linux, because linux is only a kernel, we cannot compare. (Actually, when we talk about 'linux' imho we talk about the OS, when we talk about gnu/linux, we talk about the kernel). When we compare linux & X (or something) to windows you people start whining, that linux is only a kernel!? So what?
Come on! Of course you can compare windows to linux, both are operating systems. The fact that they work differently does not matter.
Why the bloody hell does every movie trailer these days seem to be QuickTime? I hate that stuff! Not only is it rather hard to play in linux, and does the streaming hardly work but I happen to have a completely different view of what 'full screen' is (namely 'full screen'), than Apple too (namely 'smallish movie in center of screen').
I understand mpg is not very pretty and realvideo sucks even worse. And although I understand DivX would have it's downsides too, I would REALLY prefer that media type for my trailers....
Let's turn this around, to let it make sense: Stop calling 'football' 'soccer'. 'Soccer' is word only used by people who really, completely and absolutely don't know what the f*ck they're talking about...
The Anglo-Saxon "Unlawful Act" should be enough ground to found a suit in against GameSpy. I really really doubt if they can be immune in this case.
Usually, when I read about some mean USA law-suit with an enormous amount of $$$ involved, I like to think it's insane. But in this single case they would have really earnt it. Sue them.
(Off topic: we Dutchmen have a somewhat broader idea of the "Unlawful Act". Pitty though that we can't sue for insane amounts of dough;) )
I seriously don't understand this. Why would ANYONE (and I mean ANYONE) even consider migrating his webservices to IIS?
IMHO you must either be blind, deaf and mute or REALLY very incredibly unbelievably stupid!
I'm aware of the flame I am posting here, but be honest: do YOU understand this? I would have thought enough proof had been delivered the past few months (read: years) about the insecurity (and blunt evilness, really) of IIS. For heavens sake, if insecurity is proven over and over and over why make the step TO IIS instead of FROM IIS (to something else, ANYTHING else).
Apache runs under windows if you really must use that OS, Apache isn't THAT hard to set up and most important of all: Apache isn't THAT insecure. Gimme a -zillion for this flame, come on, I know what I know, I know a webserver running IIS belonging to a friend of mine got hacked last week. I know mine got hacked once (before I put on Apache) and I know many, many, MANY more IIS servers will get hacked until admin's turn into roots (or at least surf by www.apache.org).
animals improve themselves through evolution, because the stronger (prittier, tougher, taller, whatever) mate with other stronger (prittier, tougher, taller, whatever) and therefore get stronger (etc.) offspring. The weak animals get less or no offspring. Survival of the fittest.
Now humans:
People like to think that the brain is the most valuable human assett. But look at this: highly educated people in the West, get LESS children! People persue careers, work hard, don't want children. Sometimes they don't even "mate".
Humans with less "brainy assetts", get MORE children however, therefore it would be logical (I think:P ) that humankind doesn't become MORE intelligent, but LESS intelligent.
(Note: I DO NOT value other "assets" (like craftmanship, strength etc.) in humans to be of less value. I meant to say that in our science fiction stories and the picture we make of our future we see ourselves as extremely intelligent beings. We might want to alter those pictures a little....)
The AOL online software, which consumers can install for free from the Web or a compact disk, is now designed to run on Microsoft's Windows operating system. But the AOL software could be configured to override Windows and launch a version of Red Hat's Linux operating system, sources said.
I don't think that is exactly the way things work... "Overriding" Windows? Launch Red Hat instead? No, most people won't be too happy with that, and the "overriding" part sounds a bit silly anyway...
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We in the EU do not have a totalitarian regime!
Now, socialism, that's another matter.
I love it. It compiles so smoothly on my gcc (Greenpeace C Compiler(tm)).
If (many will argue When would be the right term) they lose the lawsuits, and it is found that Linux contains no code that is part of their IP. Will they automatically grant complete refunds (none of this $99 processing fee cra) to those who purchased a pointless license from them.
No.
If not, why?
Some nasty little thing called 'bankruptcy'
Mind you, I have to make a mental note to hang out the flag (any flag really, but one with a penguin in particular would be nice) the day SCO and Darl bite the dust and get shoved 6 ft. deep.
What if:
:D
- we would alter the GPL just a *little* bit
- and make it read that GPL'ed software is free
- but only if you are not SCO
Wouldn't that be fun
As a matter of fact, the EU is probably the worlds biggest trade area (not in landmass, but in people) with over half a billion citizens around the continent next year and already way past the 300 million mark. Losing - or even partially losing - the EU and its inhabitants would mean a serious catastrophy for MS. And that means only one thing: it would rock :)
Could you elaborate on this? Saying 'linux isn't a good desktop OS because I think Windows is better', is a pretty crappy argument. And apart from that: how long did it take you to learn to work with windows? huh? three month? Fuck no, you probably started it off way in the beginning with DOS, just like zillions of other serfs. Fair comparisson? I GUESS NOT!
($2.4 million initially) + (10 * $800K) = $ 10,400,000. That is definitly a lot of cash. You will have to look at the big picture though. On the one hand, moving the school to some free software product will save on the licensing costs, but the project will also cost a significant amount of money (think of Unix-admins (which are notoriously more expensive than MCSE-people, which come free with every gallon of milk you buy at your local Wall Mart), training for both staff and students, etc.). Of course, another opinion is lurking around the corner: it isn't very hard to imagine a situation in which you just call OpenOffice.org Writer "Word". Most essays and papers don't contain very difficult Word-only stuff anyway (I am a Ph. D. researcher myself, so I read a paper every now and then). My guess is a lot of people won't even notice ("Hey, this is a neat version of Word, it looks cool. Nice birds. Starts a little slow though. Oh, what the heck.")
But let's cut the crap. What I am trying to say is you will have to evaluate your specific situation a bit deeper. What do people need to do on those workstations? Is there some program everyone ab-so-lutely _needs_ to use which only runs on Microsoft OS? Can the school aford taking point in this, or would it be better to let others do the scouting? From personal experience I can tell you, that it is possible to do academic work on Linux workstations. Even as a lawyer. (Yes. I know. Yes. I am sorry. Yes.) And if we can, anyone can!
To put an end to this: almost two-and-a-half million dollars seems to me like enough to migrate a whole lot of computers with. Not needing to buy new MS-ish licenses, you can spend the 800 grand the following ten years buying new workstations AND paying admins. Probably won't be enough, but if you add half your anual budget you spend NOW to that, I think it might be. Seems like you have nothing to lose: go for it! (After doing some more math of course. You can never do enough math in these situation. We need more math. Math! Math! Math! Basicly, my guess is, that this is just a simple equation...)
'And we're not talking about one track here, one track there,' he said. 'We're talking piracy, significant examples of piracy.'
Doesn't this mean, that having 'some tracks' and swapping those 'some tracks' would be insufficient for the RIAA et al. to go berzerk on you? Doesn't this sound like "Heck, if you're just some minor swapper swapping, we'll go easy on you and more or less tollerate your behaviour"? Or is it just me and does it sound like "We'll go for the big fish first and will then go stamp on all you little fish too [insert evil laughter]" to the rest of you?
I do hope you are aware of the fact that you sound _very_ dull at the moment. Virtually everything knows what we talk about when we mention 'linux' in this context. Everyone knows that we are comparing the kernel & the interface to windows, when we compare the use of it for home users. What are you complaining about?
When people say Windows is more complete than linux, because linux is only a kernel, we cannot compare. (Actually, when we talk about 'linux' imho we talk about the OS, when we talk about gnu/linux, we talk about the kernel). When we compare linux & X (or something) to windows you people start whining, that linux is only a kernel!? So what?
Come on! Of course you can compare windows to linux, both are operating systems. The fact that they work differently does not matter.
Exactly! Nuff said, mr crayz?
Can someone clarify this?
Why the bloody hell does every movie trailer these days seem to be QuickTime? I hate that stuff! Not only is it rather hard to play in linux, and does the streaming hardly work but I happen to have a completely different view of what 'full screen' is (namely 'full screen'), than Apple too (namely 'smallish movie in center of screen').
I understand mpg is not very pretty and realvideo sucks even worse. And although I understand DivX would have it's downsides too, I would REALLY prefer that media type for my trailers....
Let's turn this around, to let it make sense: Stop calling 'football' 'soccer'. 'Soccer' is word only used by people who really, completely and absolutely don't know what the f*ck they're talking about...
The Anglo-Saxon "Unlawful Act" should be enough ground to found a suit in against GameSpy. I really really doubt if they can be immune in this case.
;) )
Usually, when I read about some mean USA law-suit with an enormous amount of $$$ involved, I like to think it's insane. But in this single case they would have really earnt it. Sue them.
(Off topic: we Dutchmen have a somewhat broader idea of the "Unlawful Act". Pitty though that we can't sue for insane amounts of dough
*GRIN*
:P
:'(
Should have read the whole thread
It seems my totally hillarious 42 joke has already been made a 1000 times.
Sorry
If the universe if calculating, it is obviously searching an answer for a certain question. But doesn't it know we already HAVE the answer? It is 42.
It is the question we are trying to find.
The Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe and Everything.
This is what I like about the USA and the Americans: YOU (THEY) ARE ALL COMPLETELY INSANE =D
Calling someone a moron while posting as an anonymous coward is seriously lame dude, go and play somewhere else.
I seriously don't understand this. Why would ANYONE (and I mean ANYONE) even consider migrating his webservices to IIS? IMHO you must either be blind, deaf and mute or REALLY very incredibly unbelievably stupid!
I'm aware of the flame I am posting here, but be honest: do YOU understand this? I would have thought enough proof had been delivered the past few months (read: years) about the insecurity (and blunt evilness, really) of IIS. For heavens sake, if insecurity is proven over and over and over why make the step TO IIS instead of FROM IIS (to something else, ANYTHING else).
Apache runs under windows if you really must use that OS, Apache isn't THAT hard to set up and most important of all: Apache isn't THAT insecure. Gimme a -zillion for this flame, come on, I know what I know, I know a webserver running IIS belonging to a friend of mine got hacked last week. I know mine got hacked once (before I put on Apache) and I know many, many, MANY more IIS servers will get hacked until admin's turn into roots (or at least surf by www.apache.org).
Do yourself a favor: think twice about IIS...
rm -rf Morpheus/
Thinks about it:
:P ) that humankind doesn't become MORE intelligent, but LESS intelligent.
animals improve themselves through evolution, because the stronger (prittier, tougher, taller, whatever) mate with other stronger (prittier, tougher, taller, whatever) and therefore get stronger (etc.) offspring. The weak animals get less or no offspring. Survival of the fittest.
Now humans:
People like to think that the brain is the most valuable human assett. But look at this: highly educated people in the West, get LESS children! People persue careers, work hard, don't want children. Sometimes they don't even "mate". Humans with less "brainy assetts", get MORE children however, therefore it would be logical (I think
(Note: I DO NOT value other "assets" (like craftmanship, strength etc.) in humans to be of less value. I meant to say that in our science fiction stories and the picture we make of our future we see ourselves as extremely intelligent beings. We might want to alter those pictures a little....)