His point, while put in a rather sneering, ranting tone, is well-taken. It is a fact that most PHBs don't get there because of merit. They get there because they went to the right prep school, Daddy knew the right people, their frat brothers (whom they used to drink a fifth a weekend with) helped them, etc. Also, there is some credence to the notion that B-schoolers don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. As a former one myself (before I saw the light,) I can tell you that they have as many classes on etiquette and protocol as they do academics. Look where business administration majors score - fifth from the bottom! Where's my major? Second from the top, even beating out comp. sci. and engineering. WOOHOO!!
I agree that social skills are necessary. I agree that one has to be able to get along to a certain extent. But social skills are one thing, getting by because you're a bullshit artist in an expensive suit is quite another. Most corporate higher-ups fit into the latter category, and we saw it in excelsis during the dot.bomb era.
Now it's my turn to rant. This proves what a lot of people suspect about CEOs and other higher-ups in companies. Namely, that they are spoiled, pampered, self-important, pompous assholes who have never worked a hard day in their lives and wouldn't know an honest day's work if it bit them in the face. They don't need the training because, hey, we're bigshots. We've people for those menial tasks. "We're too good for the mere IT mortals, we deserve private training." Yeah, along with your private dining room, private bathroom, private jet, etc., etc., etc . . .
Because SunnComm is, itself, a company which relies on research and development for its survival, we feel that bringing legal action for damages against researchers in a higher learning environment may contribute to a chilling effect on the type of research that faculty, staff, and students elect to pursue. Therefore, weve decided to move along and not pursue legal remedies in deference to "the bigger picture."
[cough]bullshit[/cough] When was the last time any of these idiots gave a ripshit about "deference to the bigger picture"? When was the last time they gave a rat's ass about fair use and consumer rights? When was the last time they were loyal to anyone or anything other than their puppet masters at the *AA?
Jacobs concluded, "We realize now that Mr. Halderman had mistakenly expected to be researching an "extremely hack resistant" copy protection product when he evaluated MediaMax -Version1.
Lots of bullshit, but the truth finally comes out.
The PMTC [Professional Media Test Center] determined that none of the ripper programs used in the testing process was able to produce a usable unauthorized copy of the protected CD yielding a verifiable and commendable level of security for the SunnComm product. [Emphasis added.]
They billed this as the greatest thing since sliced bread, the answer to the problems of music piracy. Ahh . . . the success of security through obscurity demonstrated once again.
Later in the press release, the truth comes out. The truth is a beautiful thing, is it not?
In other words, "our technology sucks rocks and we know it. Everybody knows it except for the suckers at BMG who bought our marketing hype hook, line, and sinker. Our lawyers told us this barratry have been laughed out of the courtroom, probably with us having to pay his legal bills which would have bankrupted us."
You forget that the DMA had a "voluntary DNC registry" for a long time. Did the DMA strap its members to the mast who disobeyed it? Hell no. The industry did it to themselves. This is a classic "if we don't educate, they're gonna regulate" scenario. Had the DMA done what the hell they said they were gonna do, they wouldn't be in this bind. It's very telling that this sweeping regulation went into effect with a Republican at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. A LOT of people were and are pissed off at telemarketers and demanded change.
It's real easy - if you don't want to be called, don't sign up for the DNC list. This proves that what telemarketers want to do is call people who do not want to be called.
...they will be driving the student into bankruptcy from legal fees due to nonsense claims such as this, thereby serving as a warning to anyone else who might consider pointing out that the Emporer does not have any clothes.
SunnComm Technologies, Inc. is a Phoenix, AZ company whose stock is publicly traded in the Over-the-Counter (OTC) market under symbol STEH. Our 3-year old company is currently in the development stage of its life cycle and, to date, has earned only insignificant revenue from sales of its products.
It is the intention of management to remain a non-reporting company listed on the "The Pink Sheets" until such time as the company reports significant sales of its technology . . . However, this means that you, the investor or interest-holder, will not be afforded public access to regular company audits and therefore you must solely rely on the company's press releases, news stories, or other publicly available information.
Besides making Enron look like a good investment, they may very well not have the cash to initiate a court battle. In which case, not for the first time would cooler heads prevail. These guys don't have the resources to mount a SCO-esque "we'll sue you until you buy us out" campaign.
As for suing the student, RTFA and you'll see that they mentioned the student AND Princeton. Here again, Princeton has the jack to mount a legal battle, SunComm doesn't. And Princetion might very well defend the student.
Any way you slice it, this does not bode well for the fledgling fair-use-rights infringers. I think they're more pissed at this guy putting the kibosh on their pump-and-dump scheme.
To do my part to comply with the DMCA and to help American business (what? You're against Bid-ness? You must be some Al-Qu-y-a-da tarr'ist or sum'thin,) particularly the battered music industry, I'm henceforth going to include the following warning with every computer I build and ship to someone from now on.
"POSILUTELY ABSITIVELY DO NOT double-click on the 'cd ripper' icon on the desktop after you have inserted a SunComm-DRM'd music CD into the cup holder^W^W CD-ROM drive while holding down the "shift" key on your keyboard. To do so would circumvent a copyright-portection technology and produce illegal MP3s of the tracks contained thereon, a violation of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1999."
to say that "Linus' best work is behind him." In other words, Linux has evolved into a stable, robust operating system. It has emerged from the development stage (where his "best" work was done) to a level of stability and usability that Bill can only dream of.
To put it another way, "we've done what Microsoft has said they're going to do if you'll only hang on for the next release."
Most users aren't geeks and don't want, nor need, to know about every intricate detail about the OS.
Friend, most users not only are not geeks not only do not know/care about every intricate detail of the OS. A very high percentage of users don't have two brain cells to rub together. AOL for Dummies is a real book purchased by real people. There are many, many people out there who buy things from spammers, open unknown.exe attachments, and fall for Nigerian money scams. They download BonziBuddy or insert-spyware-program-du-jour.
As for me, I'm not a hardcore geek, but I can hold my own. I use Linux because of its technical merits. It is far from perfect. It still requires a seemingly endless amount of futzing with config files and kernel recompiles to get it working. It's a workable, but not ideal, desktop OS. The install tools don't work nearly as well as they're supposed to (rpm is a damnable mess and precious little is being done to fix it) requiring much of the work to be done by hand with a text editor. I've never had a Linux box be even remotely functional out of the box and I've tried all of the distributions.
Do you think people who need an "AOL for Dummies" book are going to be capable of installing and configuring Linux? I don't. And these are the vast majority of computer users.
Pardon my ranting, but the lack of basic knowledge of our legal system by the/. crowd continues to astound me.
Anyone with a junior-college level law course will learn on the first day that COMMERCIAL SPEECH IS NOT AFFORDED THE SAME DEGREE OF PROTECTION AS OTHER FORMS OF SPEECH!!! Commercial speech, like other forms of speech (e.g., obscenity) can be and is regulated as to time, place, and content. False advertising is illegal (i.e., not legal, prohibited, verboten, y'all cain't do't and if you does, that there eff cee cee will shut'cha ass down,) Cigarette ads on TV are illegal. Various kinds of transactions need to have certain disclosures made (e.g., Regulation Z "Truth in Lending" disclosures.) So no, the First Amendment argument holds very little water here.
This is yet another example of a judge issuing a ruling based on his personal opinion, not what the law actually says. Fortunately for all concerned, cooler heads will prevail and the appeals court will layeth the smackdown on this idiot.
Finally, some sanity on this issue on/. of all places. No surprise somebody modded you troll. And I'm not a Bush fan. I don't agree with many of his policies and I think he is taking the country in the wrong direction, but I think he was a better choice than Bore.
Time to rant a little. I'm sure I'll get modded troll, but I've got karma to burn.
We've heard the "Bush lost the popular vote" mantra for years and years now. Borrowing a Clintonism, he didn't but even if he did, there's this little thing called the electoral college. Oh, you didn't learn about that in your socialist government school? I'll keep that in mind the next time they come poor-mouthing to me for their next levy (which goes to hire bureaucrats at the head shed and never makes it to the classroom, but I digress.)
The fact is, there is no problem with punch card ballots. They elected Gray-Out Davis and they can and will be used to recall him. I voted with the butterfly ballot for years and I would always check my ballot before leaving the polling place. And remember what Gore, et al, wanted - for the ballot to count if the intent of the voter can be ascertained from a dimple in the chad! How asinine!
Another thing you never hear - Bob Butterworth, the Florida attorney general, was Gore's Florida campaign manager. When the issue went to the Florida courts, did he back up Katherine Harris, as he was legally obliged to do? No, he wrote an amicus brief for the Gore campaign. That is like having an attorney represent you in a case and saying, "no, judge, my guy is wrong and should lose." In the real world, that usually equals swift disbarment.
1. Anakin bangs Queen Amidala (I'd pay for^H^H^H to see that.) 2. Anakin turns to the dark side, Queen Amidala begats Luke and Leia. 3. ???? 4. PROFIT!
I, for one, have never been able to get Wine or WineX to work for Calculator, much less HL2, even when using the "it's-supposed-to-work" settings. Also, when I've enabled DRI support for my Voodoo3 video card, it locks up my display when running a fscking screensaver.
Not meant as a troll, but if the Linux community would come out with something that actually works, then we wouldn't have to boot into Windows to feed our game habits.
I have an aunt that sends crap like this out all the time. Seems like I get the "Internet tax" one every third week or so with a different reason why it's really true this time. People like her have no business whatsoever being on the Internet.
Yes, this would effectively push >90% of today's Internet users off the network.
You say that like it's a Bad Thing. I would submit that close to that percentage of people who are on the network shouldn't be. I might get fewer emails telling me about "Bill 602P" or "if you don't forward this touching story to at least 20 people, you don't love Jesus."
This is not legal advice. You are not a client. I'm not even an attorney. If you want legal advice, contact an attorney. What I am saying here is probably 100% wrong and if you do anything based on it, you are a flaming idiot who deserves whatever bad shit is very likely to befall you.
DISCLAIMER */
Arrite, now that that's outta the way . . .
File sharing IS a crime under the No Electronic Theft ("NET") Act if the material infringed has a retail value of greater than $1,000. Read it - if you're convicted, the court will order your computer destroyed AND order you trotted off to chokey.
The poster is correct that Canada and the US have an extradition treaty. However, as evidenced by the recent abortion killer case, extradition treaties are not absolute. France only agreed to give him up on the condition that the US would not seek the death penalty against him.
For me, a hometown example of this is a contemptible piece of human garbage named Martin Pang. This guy torched his family's frozen food warehouse so he could collect the insurance money, resulting in the deaths of four firefighters. Brazil refused to extradite him unless we agreed to not charge him with murder. (Under Washington's felony murder rule, if someone gets killed during the course of a felony, you go down for murder one.)
Bum deal, huh? Well, not always. Especially during the Cold War, the US and other civilized countries regularly refused to extradite people back to their communist shitpiles^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H countries who were wanted for political "crimes" on the grounds that those were not extraditable offenses. So, it works both ways.
The point is, I'm sure that if someone were charged with a file-trading related crime in America and fled to Canada, the latter would take the position that file trading-related "crimes" are not extraditable offenses. They did so with the Vietnam war draft dodgers - Canada took the position that crimes related to avoidance of military service were not extraditable. In fact, if it's not a crime in Canada, the odds are that they would not extradite.
Hope this clears up any confusion. But read the disclaimer above carefully before you do anything. Plus, I haven't read the extradition treaty, so I could be wrong and it could be an extraditable offense.
I've never heard that particular song, but I have an MP3 of a montage of Casey going off. My favorite is one where he says "The countdown will begin this (time) immediately following the Trailblazers game on KSLM, Salem . . . now what the FUCK am I doing here? Promos inside the FUCKING GAME?!?" I know a guy who works at their sister station who actually aired that, bleeped of course.
What's childish is how/.'ers wet their pants over one little piss-ant company that hasn't been incorporated a year,
hasn't even released a fucking product and probably never will. All they want to talk about is illegal this, sue that, and unhireable. And then they wonder why nobody takes them seriously.
WAKE UP KIDS! This is the real world! Perception is reality. Companies do this sort of thing all the time. How easy do you think it is for someone with, say, Arthur Andersen to get a job?
Mod me flamebait, but please don't be confused by the facts.
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His point, while put in a rather sneering, ranting tone, is well-taken. It is a fact that most PHBs don't get there because of merit. They get there because they went to the right prep school, Daddy knew the right people, their frat brothers (whom they used to drink a fifth a weekend with) helped them, etc. Also, there is some credence to the notion that B-schoolers don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. As a former one myself (before I saw the light,) I can tell you that they have as many classes on etiquette and protocol as they do academics. Look where business administration majors score - fifth from the bottom! Where's my major? Second from the top, even beating out comp. sci. and engineering. WOOHOO!!
I agree that social skills are necessary. I agree that one has to be able to get along to a certain extent. But social skills are one thing, getting by because you're a bullshit artist in an expensive suit is quite another. Most corporate higher-ups fit into the latter category, and we saw it in excelsis during the dot.bomb era.
Now it's my turn to rant. This proves what a lot of people suspect about CEOs and other higher-ups in companies. Namely, that they are spoiled, pampered, self-important, pompous assholes who have never worked a hard day in their lives and wouldn't know an honest day's work if it bit them in the face. They don't need the training because, hey, we're bigshots. We've people for those menial tasks. "We're too good for the mere IT mortals, we deserve private training." Yeah, along with your private dining room, private bathroom, private jet, etc., etc., etc . . .
Cooler heads prevailed.
Because SunnComm is, itself, a company which relies on research and development for its survival, we feel that bringing legal action for damages against researchers in a higher learning environment may contribute to a chilling effect on the type of research that faculty, staff, and students elect to pursue. Therefore, weve decided to move along and not pursue legal remedies in deference to "the bigger picture."
[cough]bullshit[/cough] When was the last time any of these idiots gave a ripshit about "deference to the bigger picture"? When was the last time they gave a rat's ass about fair use and consumer rights? When was the last time they were loyal to anyone or anything other than their puppet masters at the *AA?
Jacobs concluded, "We realize now that Mr. Halderman had mistakenly expected to be researching an "extremely hack resistant" copy protection product when he evaluated MediaMax -Version1.
Lots of bullshit, but the truth finally comes out.
The PMTC [Professional Media Test Center] determined that none of the ripper programs used in the testing process was able to produce a usable unauthorized copy of the protected CD yielding a verifiable and commendable level of security for the SunnComm product. [Emphasis added.]
They billed this as the greatest thing since sliced bread, the answer to the problems of music piracy. Ahh . . . the success of security through obscurity demonstrated once again.
Later in the press release, the truth comes out. The truth is a beautiful thing, is it not?
In other words, "our technology sucks rocks and we know it. Everybody knows it except for the suckers at BMG who bought our marketing hype hook, line, and sinker. Our lawyers told us this barratry have been laughed out of the courtroom, probably with us having to pay his legal bills which would have bankrupted us."
You forget that the DMA had a "voluntary DNC registry" for a long time. Did the DMA strap its members to the mast who disobeyed it? Hell no. The industry did it to themselves. This is a classic "if we don't educate, they're gonna regulate" scenario. Had the DMA done what the hell they said they were gonna do, they wouldn't be in this bind. It's very telling that this sweeping regulation went into effect with a Republican at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. A LOT of people were and are pissed off at telemarketers and demanded change.
It's real easy - if you don't want to be called, don't sign up for the DNC list. This proves that what telemarketers want to do is call people who do not want to be called.
Quoth the poster:
Well, not so fast. I am not making this up, it's on their site:
SunnComm Technologies, Inc. is a Phoenix, AZ company whose stock is publicly traded in the Over-the-Counter (OTC) market under symbol STEH. Our 3-year old company is currently in the development stage of its life cycle and, to date, has earned only insignificant revenue from sales of its products.
It is the intention of management to remain a non-reporting company listed on the "The Pink Sheets" until such time as the company reports significant sales of its technology . . . However, this means that you, the investor or interest-holder, will not be afforded public access to regular company audits and therefore you must solely rely on the company's press releases, news stories, or other publicly available information.
Besides making Enron look like a good investment, they may very well not have the cash to initiate a court battle. In which case, not for the first time would cooler heads prevail. These guys don't have the resources to mount a SCO-esque "we'll sue you until you buy us out" campaign.
As for suing the student, RTFA and you'll see that they mentioned the student AND Princeton. Here again, Princeton has the jack to mount a legal battle, SunComm doesn't. And Princetion might very well defend the student.
Any way you slice it, this does not bode well for the fledgling fair-use-rights infringers. I think they're more pissed at this guy putting the kibosh on their pump-and-dump scheme.
To do my part to comply with the DMCA and to help American business (what? You're against Bid-ness? You must be some Al-Qu-y-a-da tarr'ist or sum'thin,) particularly the battered music industry, I'm henceforth going to include the following warning with every computer I build and ship to someone from now on.
"POSILUTELY ABSITIVELY DO NOT double-click on the 'cd ripper' icon on the desktop after you have inserted a SunComm-DRM'd music CD into the cup holder^W^W CD-ROM drive while holding down the "shift" key on your keyboard. To do so would circumvent a copyright-portection technology and produce illegal MP3s of the tracks contained thereon, a violation of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1999."
That would be a FACTOR of ten, not a power.
(Musta gone to public school . . . )
to say that "Linus' best work is behind him." In other words, Linux has evolved into a stable, robust operating system. It has emerged from the development stage (where his "best" work was done) to a level of stability and usability that Bill can only dream of.
To put it another way, "we've done what Microsoft has said they're going to do if you'll only hang on for the next release."
Well, the humor was apparently lost on the mods.
What your /. subscription buys you:
The letter mentions that they did inadvertantly did [sic] submit some System V code into the Linux kernel.
CUT! Stop that! It's silly! And a bit suspect, I think . . .
Most users aren't geeks and don't want, nor need, to know about every intricate detail about the OS.
Friend, most users not only are not geeks not only do not know/care about every intricate detail of the OS. A very high percentage of users don't have two brain cells to rub together. AOL for Dummies is a real book purchased by real people. There are many, many people out there who buy things from spammers, open unknown .exe attachments, and fall for Nigerian money scams. They download BonziBuddy or insert-spyware-program-du-jour.
As for me, I'm not a hardcore geek, but I can hold my own. I use Linux because of its technical merits. It is far from perfect. It still requires a seemingly endless amount of futzing with config files and kernel recompiles to get it working. It's a workable, but not ideal, desktop OS. The install tools don't work nearly as well as they're supposed to (rpm is a damnable mess and precious little is being done to fix it) requiring much of the work to be done by hand with a text editor. I've never had a Linux box be even remotely functional out of the box and I've tried all of the distributions. Do you think people who need an "AOL for Dummies" book are going to be capable of installing and configuring Linux? I don't. And these are the vast majority of computer users.
Pardon my ranting, but the lack of basic knowledge of our legal system by the /. crowd continues to astound me.
Anyone with a junior-college level law course will learn on the first day that COMMERCIAL SPEECH IS NOT AFFORDED THE SAME DEGREE OF PROTECTION AS OTHER FORMS OF SPEECH!!! Commercial speech, like other forms of speech (e.g., obscenity) can be and is regulated as to time, place, and content. False advertising is illegal (i.e., not legal, prohibited, verboten, y'all cain't do't and if you does, that there eff cee cee will shut'cha ass down,) Cigarette ads on TV are illegal. Various kinds of transactions need to have certain disclosures made (e.g., Regulation Z "Truth in Lending" disclosures.) So no, the First Amendment argument holds very little water here.
This is yet another example of a judge issuing a ruling based on his personal opinion, not what the law actually says. Fortunately for all concerned, cooler heads will prevail and the appeals court will layeth the smackdown on this idiot.
When you cross Lord Bill. So much for "innovation" and "new ideas" eh?
The Japanese have a saying that's appropriate here. "The nail that stands up gets hammered down." I just say, "the truth hurts, doesn't it?"
Finally, some sanity on this issue on /. of all places. No surprise somebody modded you troll. And I'm not a Bush fan. I don't agree with many of his policies and I think he is taking the country in the wrong direction, but I think he was a better choice than Bore.
Time to rant a little. I'm sure I'll get modded troll, but I've got karma to burn.
We've heard the "Bush lost the popular vote" mantra for years and years now. Borrowing a Clintonism, he didn't but even if he did, there's this little thing called the electoral college. Oh, you didn't learn about that in your socialist government school? I'll keep that in mind the next time they come poor-mouthing to me for their next levy (which goes to hire bureaucrats at the head shed and never makes it to the classroom, but I digress.)
The fact is, there is no problem with punch card ballots. They elected Gray-Out Davis and they can and will be used to recall him. I voted with the butterfly ballot for years and I would always check my ballot before leaving the polling place. And remember what Gore, et al, wanted - for the ballot to count if the intent of the voter can be ascertained from a dimple in the chad! How asinine!
Another thing you never hear - Bob Butterworth, the Florida attorney general, was Gore's Florida campaign manager. When the issue went to the Florida courts, did he back up Katherine Harris, as he was legally obliged to do? No, he wrote an amicus brief for the Gore campaign. That is like having an attorney represent you in a case and saying, "no, judge, my guy is wrong and should lose." In the real world, that usually equals swift disbarment.
1. Anakin bangs Queen Amidala (I'd pay for^H^H^H to see that.)
2. Anakin turns to the dark side, Queen Amidala begats Luke and Leia.
3. ????
4. PROFIT!
In Soviet Russia, Anakin bangs YOU!
Well, look at why we have to boot into Windows.
I, for one, have never been able to get Wine or WineX to work for Calculator, much less HL2, even when using the "it's-supposed-to-work" settings. Also, when I've enabled DRI support for my Voodoo3 video card, it locks up my display when running a fscking screensaver.
Not meant as a troll, but if the Linux community would come out with something that actually works, then we wouldn't have to boot into Windows to feed our game habits.
It doesn't make me look arrogant, it makes me look like I'm covering my ass. ;)
I was thinking more along the lines of "euthanized," but that's just me.
It's appreciated. :)
I have an aunt that sends crap like this out all the time. Seems like I get the "Internet tax" one every third week or so with a different reason why it's really true this time. People like her have no business whatsoever being on the Internet.
Quoth the poster:
Yes, this would effectively push >90% of today's Internet users off the network.
You say that like it's a Bad Thing. I would submit that close to that percentage of people who are on the network shouldn't be. I might get fewer emails telling me about "Bill 602P" or "if you don't forward this touching story to at least 20 people, you don't love Jesus."
/* DISCLAIMER
This is not legal advice. You are not a client. I'm not even an attorney. If you want legal advice, contact an attorney. What I am saying here is probably 100% wrong and if you do anything based on it, you are a flaming idiot who deserves whatever bad shit is very likely to befall you.
DISCLAIMER */
Arrite, now that that's outta the way . . .
File sharing IS a crime under the No Electronic Theft ("NET") Act if the material infringed has a retail value of greater than $1,000. Read it - if you're convicted, the court will order your computer destroyed AND order you trotted off to chokey.
The poster is correct that Canada and the US have an extradition treaty. However, as evidenced by the recent abortion killer case, extradition treaties are not absolute. France only agreed to give him up on the condition that the US would not seek the death penalty against him.
For me, a hometown example of this is a contemptible piece of human garbage named Martin Pang. This guy torched his family's frozen food warehouse so he could collect the insurance money, resulting in the deaths of four firefighters. Brazil refused to extradite him unless we agreed to not charge him with murder. (Under Washington's felony murder rule, if someone gets killed during the course of a felony, you go down for murder one.)
Bum deal, huh? Well, not always. Especially during the Cold War, the US and other civilized countries regularly refused to extradite people back to their communist shitpiles^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H countries who were wanted for political "crimes" on the grounds that those were not extraditable offenses. So, it works both ways.
The point is, I'm sure that if someone were charged with a file-trading related crime in America and fled to Canada, the latter would take the position that file trading-related "crimes" are not extraditable offenses. They did so with the Vietnam war draft dodgers - Canada took the position that crimes related to avoidance of military service were not extraditable. In fact, if it's not a crime in Canada, the odds are that they would not extradite.
Hope this clears up any confusion. But read the disclaimer above carefully before you do anything. Plus, I haven't read the extradition treaty, so I could be wrong and it could be an extraditable offense.
Quoth the poster:
Physical tortue: AFAICT, Pliers pulling on a nipple. Ewwww.
I just hope it wasn't depicting grasping/pulling on something more sensitive.
I've never heard that particular song, but I have an MP3 of a montage of Casey going off. My favorite is one where he says "The countdown will begin this (time) immediately following the Trailblazers game on KSLM, Salem . . . now what the FUCK am I doing here? Promos inside the FUCKING GAME?!?" I know a guy who works at their sister station who actually aired that, bleeped of course.
You forgot creed, color, national origin, or veteran status.
Otherwise, MOD PARENT UP.
What's childish is how /.'ers wet their pants over one little piss-ant company that hasn't been incorporated a year,
hasn't even released a fucking product and probably never will. All they want to talk about is illegal this, sue that, and unhireable. And then they wonder why nobody takes them seriously.
WAKE UP KIDS! This is the real world! Perception is reality. Companies do this sort of thing all the time. How easy do you think it is for someone with, say, Arthur Andersen to get a job?
Mod me flamebait, but please don't be confused by the facts.