Yup Yup. Started with Basic on C64 then PC. Followed by Pascal, then into High School learned C, and eventually cobol and fortran (I hated college) then well, all the scripting stuff we see today.
But I have to concur, basic or pascal are nice starts. Both have easy syntax, error reporting from the compilers are quiet straight forward. And plenty of great authors on the subject.
You have opened a great line of thought. May I also add to this by noting that through the DMCA, the MPAA and RIAA are trying to redefine what "fair use" actually entails. Up until now, most copyright infringement cases have hinged on the "fair use" of the end user.
2 window 98 boxes, identical to each other (and I mean identical, same ghost images) one dl and worked fine, the other still complains about needing version 8.
When ASP was first announced/available the concept was great. Lower development time because all the VB junkies should be able to pump out some decent scripts in no time. Problems arose when the syntax for vbscript (in the first version of asp on IIS) tended to be so picky, that simple code may take an hour to debug. As with any scripting, you need to optimize your code. But ASP has a tendancy to require a LOT of optimization. We still use it for smaller projects, but I personally use more PHP (while not perfect, has made a lot of headway in the last year). ASP is also limited, that by default its built for win32 platforms. While Chili!soft makes an interpreter for other platforms, we found it to be much slower.
An Aside: In order to make their threats hold against other entities, the MPAA must, if they claim this is to protect copyrights, pursue all violations. Failure to pursue even one blatent infringment, would essential destroy their credibility with the courts in regards to activily protecting their copyrights. However, if there claim is that of patent infringment, then they are not required to pursue all infringments.
Sun makes its licensers clearly specify to their end users that Java should NOT be used for mission critical apps, such as: nuclear power plants, hospital life support systems, ect.
I had 4 I-openers on order from CC. One for grandparents in PA, one for great aunt. The other two units were to be dumb consoles in a test project for home automation. After waiting nearly 45 days, and not hearing anything good from Netappliance, we cancelled the order. The attempt to retroactively change the TOS through strong arm tactics violates Georgia contract law. Even if Netappliance WERE to sell a unit, appropriately priced to not be a loss leader, I personally would not purchase ANY units from them in the future, nor would I associate my name, we wont argue that value , with any open source project to be used in ANY of their future endeavors, nor would I recommend them to my home electronic consumer customers. I understand the concept of loss leaders. I understand the need to revamp ones service agreements to close loop holes. But, when a company attempts to change agreements in the past, that company does not deserve any future respect from consumers. A mistake in sales in one thing, but a mistake in integrity is quite different. Thats what I would say to them.
The Forbes article talks about lack of branding. The current state of who owns whom, and who does what in Caldera's little group of companies, just supports that.
They are branded alright, just no one knows to what without a script.
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>> Yessir, just look at freshmeat... Nothing but top-notch, professional-quality products. No idle hobbyists just writing a simple program to get the job done.
Couldnt' have said it better. In addition to this, we hear a lot of "we cant' run linux, theren't enough apps for it". If we get some decent IDEs and development packages, this will change.
Heard it tonight on the news here in Atlanta. I'm not sure what package they intend to install, but some Cobb County residents might want to find out. I'm in Fayette County, so they of course dont care what I think, but some Cobb natives may have missed it. The news report had some lady from the library system talking about it, and it sure sounded like it was a done deal. What, no voting?
I have an office staff of 10+ that play SC and BW nearly every other night after work. Some of them are hardcore Linux guys, that have small win98 partitions just for SC and nothing else. They would almost kill for SC ports.
Thats exactly what popped into my mind when I read the article. Why Netscape? What did Netscape offer to get this "special" treatment? Why not all the other software devs? My company still has 2 versions of its software. One for domestic and one for international delivery.
I also noticed some interesting "this is great, will give netscape an advantage over microsoft" posts. Intersting how many slashdotters hate government control until it can hurt MS. It can also give Netscape an advantage over a number of other private and open source companies who want to export too. Don't forget that in your war cries against MS. If the feds can attack MS, they can attack you too.
The judge in this case needs to really re-read his trademark law books. He seems to be siding with a "registered trademark" holder over a "non-registered trademark" holder. In the United States, one can have a trademark and/or servicemark be legally recognized through use, and not just via registration. In hind site, the etoys.com trademark registration should have been challenged by etoy.com WHILE they attempted to file their own registration. They had had their name in use, nationally and international for 2 full years before the etoys.com registration.
As far as ICANN goes, the organization is a joke, without any real or political power.
Paul is a really great guy. I remember not so many years ago, email conversations with him in which he hand walked me through setting up some DNS (back in my younger years). I just hope, that the team left behind on BIND doesn't start slacking off..
That was my first thought. Now I have to front money for service I'm not receiving. At least before, I had 30-60 days to argue with them before I had to pay.
If they go to this policy, and you have to pay up front for your clients domain registrations, whats the turn around going to be?
Current system, email in application, it goes in at 5pm tonight, normally its disbursed within 24-48 hours, and a new customer site is ready.
Now we have to mail-in, or call in (oh, this ought to be good, now 3 hours on hold to get new domain?) the payment, wait for processing, then hae a customers site active?
Actually, Yes. Recent troubles HAVE come from a politician from Virginia.
"The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers' (ICANN) more than 40-page letter aims to quell numerous concerns laid out by House Commerce Committee chairman Tom Bliley (R-Virginia), who late last month opened a probe into the nonprofit corporation chosen by the Clinton administration to manage the Net's core technical functions."
NSI, in the last 6 months, has become almost unbearable to work with. 2-3 days for host changes to go through. Mistakes in billing (being billed 2x for same domains). The change to the website has made hunting for pertinant information even harder than it was before.
But, ICANNs problems, are a good bit of their own. Why did they have to fly representatives around the world many times? Instead of acting like a private corporation, they spent money as fast as government bureaucrat. Private industry is not going to invest in a company that can't control its own finances properly.
As far as the $1 per domain fee, I have no problem with it, provided it helps create competition for NSI.
Those of us trapped in the land of Bellsouth aren't having much luck with *DSL service of any kind. While the telco brags about their infrastructure and nearly every ISP down here claims to offer *DSL its essentially only available in 2 counties. Calls to the telco are nearly a waste of time. Their reps have told us #1 you live to far away from the CO #2 you live to close to the CO #3 your lines wont handle it (the irony in all of this is that I have copper pairs that support ISDN just fine, and as for the distance, actually had a T1 here for a year). Cable modems aren't an option in my county, because the county commision sold out to Mediaone, who has no plans to send us broadband. (Commision gives mediaone renewed franchise agreement, then goes shopping for another high speed provider for the county offices) So for the time being, those of us in Fayette County are stuck with ISDN, or if you live close enough to the border with Coweta, can sometimes talk a Coweta provider into running cable into your house. But, thats our area, glad to hear that some of you are winning the war with the telcos.
I couldn't agree more. About 6 months ago, my company was asked to do a intrusion investigation for a large company here in Atlanta. We spent nearly 3 months auditing network connections and leafing through megs upon megs of logs from services. Wasn't long before AOL ips appeared near the top of the most frequent attackers.
Now, this was all done with modems. AOL is trying to get some of the large cable modem and *dsl providers to offer direct aol access to the net over large bandwidth. If AOL has been such a large problem with only modem access, imagine the trouble an AOLer can get into with some serious bandwidth behind them?
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Yup Yup.
Started with Basic on C64 then PC.
Followed by Pascal, then into High School learned C, and eventually cobol and fortran (I hated college) then well, all the scripting stuff we see today.
But I have to concur, basic or pascal are nice starts. Both have easy syntax, error reporting from the compilers are quiet straight forward. And plenty of great authors on the subject.
You have opened a great line of thought.
May I also add to this by noting that through the DMCA, the MPAA and RIAA are trying to redefine what "fair use" actually entails. Up until now, most copyright infringement cases have hinged on the "fair use" of the end user.
Just like, use the beer, eh?
Hear! Hear!
Prisoners and Slaves are not permitted to own guns.
Think on that for a while.
2 window 98 boxes, identical to each other (and I mean identical, same ghost images) one dl and worked fine, the other still complains about needing version 8.
When ASP was first announced/available the concept was great. Lower development time because all the VB junkies should be able to pump out some decent scripts in no time. Problems arose when the syntax for vbscript (in the first version of asp on IIS) tended to be so picky, that simple code may take an hour to debug. As with any scripting, you need to optimize your code. But ASP has a tendancy to require a LOT of optimization. We still use it for smaller projects, but I personally use more PHP (while not perfect, has made a lot of headway in the last year). ASP is also limited, that by default its built for win32 platforms. While Chili!soft makes an interpreter for other platforms, we found it to be much slower.
Hear! Hear!
An Aside:
In order to make their threats hold against other entities, the MPAA must, if they claim this is to protect copyrights, pursue all violations. Failure to pursue even one blatent infringment, would essential destroy their credibility with the courts in regards to activily protecting their copyrights. However, if there claim is that of patent infringment, then they are not required to pursue all infringments.
Now we just need to defend America from Washington..you decide which one..
Actually, no.
Sun makes its licensers clearly specify to their end users that Java should NOT be used for mission critical apps, such as: nuclear power plants, hospital life support systems, ect.
As for c/c++, that be ok..
I had 4 I-openers on order from CC.
One for grandparents in PA, one for great aunt.
The other two units were to be dumb consoles in a test project for home automation.
After waiting nearly 45 days, and not hearing anything good from Netappliance, we cancelled the order.
The attempt to retroactively change the TOS through strong arm tactics violates Georgia contract law.
Even if Netappliance WERE to sell a unit, appropriately priced to not be a loss leader, I personally would not purchase ANY units from them in the future, nor would I associate my name, we wont argue that value , with any open source project to be used in ANY of their future endeavors, nor would I recommend them to my home electronic consumer customers. I understand the concept of loss leaders. I understand the need to revamp ones service agreements to close loop holes. But, when a company attempts to change agreements in the past, that company does not deserve any future respect from consumers. A mistake in sales in one thing, but a mistake in integrity is quite different. Thats what I would say to them.
Question 29, to be answered in comment or in reponse to a comment, asked if you would be willing to testify at the hearings.
The Forbes article talks about lack of branding.
The current state of who owns whom, and who does what in Caldera's little group of companies, just supports that.
They are branded alright, just no one knows to what without a script.
mmm....single click affiliate satellite based deorbiting patent....
>> Yessir, just look at freshmeat... Nothing but top-notch, professional-quality products. No idle hobbyists just writing a simple program to get the job done.
Couldnt' have said it better.
In addition to this, we hear a lot of "we cant' run linux, theren't enough apps for it". If we get some decent IDEs and development packages, this will change.
Heard it tonight on the news here in Atlanta.
I'm not sure what package they intend to install, but some Cobb County residents might want to find out. I'm in Fayette County, so they of course dont care what I think, but some Cobb natives may have missed it. The news report had some lady from the library system talking about it, and it sure sounded like it was a done deal. What, no voting?
I have an office staff of 10+ that play SC and BW nearly every other night after work. Some of them are hardcore Linux guys, that have small win98 partitions just for SC and nothing else.
They would almost kill for SC ports.
Thats exactly what popped into my mind when I read the article. Why Netscape? What did Netscape offer to get this "special" treatment? Why not all the other software devs? My company still has 2 versions of its software. One for domestic and one for international delivery.
I also noticed some interesting "this is great, will give netscape an advantage over microsoft" posts. Intersting how many slashdotters hate government control until it can hurt MS. It can also give Netscape an advantage over a number of other private and open source companies who want to export too. Don't forget that in your war cries against MS. If the feds can attack MS, they can attack you too.
The judge in this case needs to really re-read his trademark law books. He seems to be siding with a "registered trademark" holder over a "non-registered trademark" holder. In the United States, one can have a trademark and/or servicemark be legally recognized through use, and not just via registration. In hind site, the etoys.com trademark registration should have been challenged by etoy.com WHILE they attempted to file their own registration. They had had their name in use, nationally and international for 2 full years before the etoys.com registration.
As far as ICANN goes, the organization is a joke, without any real or political power.
...but thank you, Paul.
Paul is a really great guy. I remember not so many years ago, email conversations with him in which he hand walked me through setting up some DNS (back in my younger years). I just hope, that the team left behind on BIND doesn't start slacking off..
That was my first thought. Now I have to front money for service I'm not receiving. At least before, I had 30-60 days to argue with them before I had to pay.
If they go to this policy, and you have to pay up front for your clients domain registrations, whats the turn around going to be?
Current system, email in application, it goes in at 5pm tonight, normally its disbursed within 24-48 hours, and a new customer site is ready.
Now we have to mail-in, or call in (oh, this ought to be good, now 3 hours on hold to get new domain?) the payment, wait for processing, then hae a customers site active?
Actually, Yes.
Recent troubles HAVE come from a politician from Virginia.
"The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers' (ICANN) more than 40-page letter aims to quell numerous concerns laid out by House Commerce Committee chairman Tom Bliley (R-Virginia), who late last month opened a probe into the nonprofit corporation chosen by the Clinton administration to manage the Net's core technical functions."
Ref: http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,38955,00.html
NSI, in the last 6 months, has become almost unbearable to work with. 2-3 days for host changes to go through. Mistakes in billing (being billed 2x for same domains). The change to the website has made hunting for pertinant information even harder than it was before.
But, ICANNs problems, are a good bit of their own. Why did they have to fly representatives around the world many times? Instead of acting like a private corporation, they spent money as fast as government bureaucrat. Private industry is not going to invest in a company that can't control its own finances properly.
As far as the $1 per domain fee, I have no problem with it, provided it helps create competition for NSI.
Those of us trapped in the land of Bellsouth aren't having much luck with *DSL service of any kind. While the telco brags about their infrastructure and nearly every ISP down here claims to offer *DSL its essentially only available in 2 counties. Calls to the telco are nearly a waste of time. Their reps have told us #1 you live to far away from the CO #2 you live to close to the CO #3 your lines wont handle it (the irony in all of this is that I have copper pairs that support ISDN just fine, and as for the distance, actually had a T1 here for a year). Cable modems aren't an option in my county, because the county commision sold out to Mediaone, who has no plans to send us broadband. (Commision gives mediaone renewed franchise agreement, then goes shopping for another high speed provider for the county offices) So for the time being, those of us in Fayette County are stuck with ISDN, or if you live close enough to the border with Coweta, can sometimes talk a Coweta provider into running cable into your house. But, thats our area, glad to hear that some of you are winning the war with the telcos.
I couldn't agree more. About 6 months ago, my company was asked to do a intrusion investigation for a large company here in Atlanta. We spent nearly 3 months auditing network connections and leafing through megs upon megs of logs from services. Wasn't long before AOL ips appeared near the top of the most frequent attackers.
Now, this was all done with modems. AOL is trying to get some of the large cable modem and *dsl providers to offer direct aol access to the net over large bandwidth. If AOL has been such a large problem with only modem access, imagine the trouble an AOLer can get into with some serious bandwidth behind them?