Why should I waste my time trying to be right and good according to God's dictatorship? Why would I subject myself to His Holy Fascism? Knowing the kind of attention-grubbing fear-mongering this "God" does, and how much of a control freak He really is, why would I even want to look at Heaven, let alone enter it?
Dictatorship? Fear-mongering? Control Freak? If He was any of those things, He wouldn't have given you a choice to worship something other than Himself.
The whole idea of christianity is pretty nonsensical. An all-powerful, all-knowing god creates a race of beings that he knows will disobey him, initially because (by his own design) they don't know right from wrong
You need to read the Bible. He didn't design people to not know the difference from right and wrong. You have a conscience, right? There you go.
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 2 Peter 3:3-5 (KJV)
If you are insulted because of the name of Christ, you are blessed, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you. 1 Peter 4:15 (NIV)
They said to you, "In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires." These are the men who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the spirit. Jude 1:18-19(NIV)
But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God - having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them. 2 Timothy 3:1-5(NIV)
Try Numbers Chap 31 for starters.. especially verse 17. I dont see why I should take any of this seriously. But many people do take it seriously.. thats why the world continues to be so fucked up I guess. Whats worse is so many people on slashdot (arguably having a populace with higher average intellect) takes it seriously.
Numbers, beginning with Chapter 31, is dealing with a Holy War between the Israelites and the Midianites. The Midianites were Baal worshippers and consecrated to God. They were destroyed because of their sins. Now the Bible doesn't tell us the age of the "boys" that were killed in the battle, but if they were destroyed because they were Baal worshippers, they were old enough to make that choice and knew better.
I find this no different that the story of Lot, who was delivered from Sodom before it was destroyed in the book of Genesis for committing abominations before the Lord (if you haven't read it, the townspeople were homosexual and God decided to judge them for their sins). Same thing with the flood from Genesis. The Bible tells us that the entire world was wicked and that only Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord. The entire world was destroyed in the flood because of their sinful ways.
Remember, God told Adam and Eve that if they ate from the tree of good and evil they would surely die. Satan may tempt you, but you have a choice - and a conscience.
I take it very seriously. God is going to pour his wrath out on the world again one day (the book of Revelation goes into detail about that).
I'll end on this: if you want a reason to believe the Bible and you can relate it to today's world, read the text of Ezekiel 44:1-3. Then he brought me back the way of the gate of the outward sanctuary which looketh toward the east; and it was shut. Then said the Lord unto me; This gate shall be shut, it shall not be opened, and no man shall enter in by it; because the Lord, the God of Israel, hath entered in by it, therefore it shall be shut. It is for the prince; the prince! To this day, the east gate in Jerusalem remains sealed - sealed by the Muslims under the rule of Suleiman because Jewish religion teaches that the messiah would enter Jerusalem through this gate.
One other bit of info: the Bible says that the generation that sees Israel return as a nation will be the last. Israel became a nation in May, 1948. Jerusalem came back under Israeli control in 1967. If Israel is such an insignificant country, why are they always on the front page of the newspaper? Are there not any other wars going on around the world? Watch the events surrounding Israel and the middle east. The Bible says that Damascus will be in a ruinous heap. Damascus is the only known city to be consistently occupied since its inception. One day Damascus will be destroyed. Right now it's speculated that Damascus has chemical warheads aimed and ready for launch against Israel. Israel bombed Iran in 1981 because of their nuclear site.
And if you want some REALLY interesting reading, go find a book on the Six Day War between Israel and Egypt. It was by the Hand of God that Israel was victorious.
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Not necessarily. I believe the UN is a tool of whatever faction is bringing about a one-world government.
Fair enough. If you're right, when we die, we die. If I'm right, well... Let's just say I'll stick with my faith.
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 2 Peter 3:3-5
Maybe they'll use the NIV or the NLT version of the Bible. Those are more meaning-oriented and less word-for-word oriented. Much easier to understand. Once you get those read then you can pick up a KJV and understand it easier.
Yup. That sums it up. Satan, the antichrist, the false prophet and those who have chosen to reject God are thrown in the lake of fire after the 1000 year reign of Christ. This is a place of torment described in the Bible as causing constant gnashing of teeth. Doesn't sound like a fun place to be.
It's funny how that Landover Baptist Church site is so blasphemous, yet there is a link there to buy a book called The Mark, which is a selection from the Left Behind series. It was that first book, Left Behind, that I read and was saved before I finished the book.
I suppose they are still hoping to cash in on those who visit their site regularly with Bible-based Christian fiction?
This Air America thing replaced a bunch of local ethnic stations so people could listen to Al Franken and Jeneanne Garofalo
I thought the liberals cared for the little guy and was the voice of the minority?
if liberals want to compete with conservative talk radio, they need the Reverend Al.
Better than Reverend Jesse. That guy is waste of space.
I think if the liberals really want to compete with conservative talk radio, they should become conservatives.
No wonder they aren't doing so well
I guess lies aren't as popular as they used to be.
I'm not trying to troll; I am really in agreement with the parent post and was just elaborating on the ridiculousness of the left.
No, no, no! Conservatives are GOOD. I've always thought that same opinion of NPR. I'm a talk radio junkie, too...although I do shy away from WLIB in NY for obvious reasons.
point out that ClearChan has also been behind a lot of public radio stations being taken over and given to the christian networks
Really? Given over to Christian networks? That's interesting. Why would CC hand over conquered stations to Christian networks? Can you site a news article or something on this? I'd love to read it.
If the example is things like the Ten Commandments monuments you are wrong. Government display of such things constitutes an endorsment of religion which is prohibited
Better throw away your money, then. It reads, "In God We Trust".
The First Amendment reads, in part:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"
I fail to see how displaying the Ten Commandments on government property establishes a national religion. Is the government making you worship God as compared to someone/something else? No. In some countries if you practice a religion that isn't on the books, you're executed.
I could just as easily have faith in something other than your Bible. You quote an old book that says some invisible creature has super powers. Do you realize how unconvincing your argument is?
I can't convince you as I can only plant the seed in your mind. One day every knee will bow to God and confess Him as Lord whether you believe it or not. Like I said in another post, you know you have a brain but you've never seen it. You have thoughts, although they only exist in your mind. You know they are there. Same thing with God.
Rose from their graves? How does one move once the muscles have rotted?
Do you want to know what you see when your eyes rot? You can do a simple experiment. Just excise your eyes (you can use a scalpel or sharp melon baller). What does one hear once both cochlea have decomposed? They hear the same thing that deaf people do. Once the cerebral cortex has been destroyed, the subject can no longer speak or read. I doubt that any thought occurs either.
Have faith!...with God all things are possible. (Matthew 19:26)
The Bible teaches that before the start of the tribulation believers in Christ will be taken to meeet the Lord in the clouds. Specifially, the Bible says that the dead in Christ shall rise first then those who remain alive on earth will follow. All will receive glorified bodies instantly (or in the twinkling of an eye, the Bible says). Enoch was taken as a matter of fact. The book of Genesis says that Enoch lived three hundred sixty-five years and he was no more because God took him. (The actual verses are Genesis 5:23-24).
I'm not here to argue. I will defend my faith and try to instill a sense of urgency among believers and non-believers alike that Jesus is coming soon. Don't be left behind!
yet you subscribe to a faith that has the non-Jesus-loving Jews
No I don't. I am a Christian. They are Jews. Not the same faith. The Jews rejected the Messiah and therefore stopped the 70 weeks' plan in the book of Daniel until the rapture of the church sometime in the future.
Your brain exists, right? You haven't seen it, touched it, heard it, tasted it or smelled it - but by faith you know it's there. You think thoughts, right? They only exist in your mind - so there's no proof they exist. But it's a fact that your thoughts and your brain exists. Why not God?
Don't do what the Bible says. Don't necessarily believe what it claims Jesus said.
Why not? The Bible is the absolute truth. It's not a buffet where you can pick what you like. It's all or nothing. The Bible is the inspired Word of God. Just because it isn't politically correct doesn't make it wrong. It's people that are wrong, not God.
with respect for those of different faiths than his (remember, he was a Jew)
I don't believe that is the right way to live. That's straight out of a liberal bible.
There is only one way to Heaven - through the blood of Jesus Christ. All others are false religions that lead to death and destruction. The Bible says there is one true God. If you have respect for other faiths, that means you're willing to let these people live an eternal life of suffering. Not a very Christian thing to do. Spread the Good News! Jesus is coming!
and above all the knowledge that you don't have the right or authority to judge anyone, for only the Lord knows what's in your heart.
How about quoting more New Testament scripture. I see Mark 10:9 there, but most Bible scholars like yourself know that the Old Testament is the old law; the New Testament is the new law.
So God said these things or these were the items that happened historically? What is the context of these verses?
The Bible says that homosexuality is an abomination before God.
The Bible also says that the believer of the household manages to cover for any other unbelievers in the household.
Mark 10:9 says it all. Divorce is wrong. Just like abortion is wrong. Adultery is wrong. Lust over someone other than your wife/husband is wrong. Unfortunately just because the law of man says one thing, it's not always the right way.
Please don't condemn my God before you understand fully what you're talking about.
I leave with you some of 2 Timothy 3:1-7
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Please accept Jesus into your heart today for tomorrow is promised to no man.
Sure, he didn't pull the trigger or nail himself to a cross. On that same merit I can jump in front of a moving bus and blame the driver for not stopping. The point is that he intentionally let himself die, which qualifies him as suicidal in many people's eyes.
However, if you die, you don't take the sins of the world and give life to anyone who wants it. The book of Matthew says that when Jesus died, the curtain was torn in the temple, an earthquake shook the earth and dead saints rose from their graves and went to Jerusalem.
People wanting to commit suicide, look for a quick, painless death (gun to the head, in a garage with a running car, etc). If Jesus was suicidal, there is no way he would have choosen crucifixtion as his death of choice as it is accept by many scholars as being the most painful and slowest way to die. Thus I don't believe your theory for a second that Jesus was suicidal.
I agree. Crucifixion causes you to die from suffocation. When Jesus was crucified alongside the two criminals, the Roman soldiers broke the legs of the two criminals to help them die quicker. (You could push up with your legs to breathe - eventually you become so weak that you can no longer push and you suffocate).
Jesus was not suicidal. Jesus was crucified by the Romans and by the demanding of some Jews for claiming he was the King of the Jews. (I am not knocking the Jews - just stating fact. I still believe the Jews are God's people and 144,000 of them will be sealed during the tribulation after they come to Christ.) One day many Christians will suffer a similar fate at the hands of the Antichrist and his one-world government. Take the mark or lose your life. Once you take the mark, your eternal position is set in stone and you will be eternally damned.
A kind and just god wouldn't punish Jesus in order to exonerate others. If I were omnipotent, I would eradicate pain, suffering, and death unconditionally.
Adam and Eve had the choice. Follow God or die. Remember, their pain, suffering and laboring didn't start until AFTER both took from the tree of good and evil. They had a choice. Now we suffer because of original sin.
God didn't punish Jesus. Jesus of Nazareth could have had the angels come take Him from the cross at a moments' notice. He didn't. He died so you could live. Do you think God punishes you because you cut yourself or bruise your arm or get into a car accident? The one true living God loves us - but he does give us free will. Jesus did NOT have to die for any of us - it was His choice. Unfortunately His choice to die so that you can live outside of eternal pain and gnashing of teeth for eternity is very underappreciated by many. I wouldn't come to such a secular website and share my beliefs at the risk of being heckled if I didn't have faith. I hope you'll re-examine yours and accept Christ as your savior today. Tomorrow is promised to no man.
Isreal does not target civilians. They target terrorists. Civilians get killed, and Isreal IS to blame for the deaths of a lot of innocent Palestinians, but they do not specifically target civilians.
And they ARE justified in killing terrorists. Even ones that use human shields, and specially the ones that use children as human bombs, with or without the childs knowledge.
You're just trying to excuse the actions of Palestinians, because they're the underdog of the left wing at the moment.
Exactly. Israel is willing to give up all this land (that is theirs, by the way) for peace and what happens? Those with whom they are trying to make peace still send in the suicide bombers.
There will be no sustainable peace in Israel until close to the end of days. And then it's only temporary.
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Why should I waste my time trying to be right and good according to God's dictatorship? Why would I subject myself to His Holy Fascism? Knowing the kind of attention-grubbing fear-mongering this "God" does, and how much of a control freak He really is, why would I even want to look at Heaven, let alone enter it?
Dictatorship? Fear-mongering? Control Freak? If He was any of those things, He wouldn't have given you a choice to worship something other than Himself.
The whole idea of christianity is pretty nonsensical. An all-powerful, all-knowing god creates a race of beings that he knows will disobey him, initially because (by his own design) they don't know right from wrong
You need to read the Bible. He didn't design people to not know the difference from right and wrong. You have a conscience, right? There you go.
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 2 Peter 3:3-5 (KJV)
If you are insulted because of the name of Christ, you are blessed, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you. 1 Peter 4:15 (NIV)
They said to you, "In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires." These are the men who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the spirit. Jude 1:18-19(NIV)
But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God - having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them. 2 Timothy 3:1-5(NIV)
If you don't know Jesus, you need to know Him.
Try Numbers Chap 31 for starters .. especially verse 17. I dont see why I should take any of this seriously. But many people do take it seriously.. thats why the world continues to be so fucked up I guess. Whats worse is so many people on slashdot (arguably having a populace with higher average intellect) takes it seriously.
Numbers, beginning with Chapter 31, is dealing with a Holy War between the Israelites and the Midianites. The Midianites were Baal worshippers and consecrated to God. They were destroyed because of their sins. Now the Bible doesn't tell us the age of the "boys" that were killed in the battle, but if they were destroyed because they were Baal worshippers, they were old enough to make that choice and knew better.
I find this no different that the story of Lot, who was delivered from Sodom before it was destroyed in the book of Genesis for committing abominations before the Lord (if you haven't read it, the townspeople were homosexual and God decided to judge them for their sins). Same thing with the flood from Genesis. The Bible tells us that the entire world was wicked and that only Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord. The entire world was destroyed in the flood because of their sinful ways.
Remember, God told Adam and Eve that if they ate from the tree of good and evil they would surely die. Satan may tempt you, but you have a choice - and a conscience.
I take it very seriously. God is going to pour his wrath out on the world again one day (the book of Revelation goes into detail about that).
I'll end on this: if you want a reason to believe the Bible and you can relate it to today's world, read the text of Ezekiel 44:1-3. Then he brought me back the way of the gate of the outward sanctuary which looketh toward the east; and it was shut. Then said the Lord unto me; This gate shall be shut, it shall not be opened, and no man shall enter in by it; because the Lord, the God of Israel, hath entered in by it, therefore it shall be shut. It is for the prince; the prince! To this day, the east gate in Jerusalem remains sealed - sealed by the Muslims under the rule of Suleiman because Jewish religion teaches that the messiah would enter Jerusalem through this gate.
One other bit of info: the Bible says that the generation that sees Israel return as a nation will be the last. Israel became a nation in May, 1948. Jerusalem came back under Israeli control in 1967. If Israel is such an insignificant country, why are they always on the front page of the newspaper? Are there not any other wars going on around the world? Watch the events surrounding Israel and the middle east. The Bible says that Damascus will be in a ruinous heap. Damascus is the only known city to be consistently occupied since its inception. One day Damascus will be destroyed. Right now it's speculated that Damascus has chemical warheads aimed and ready for launch against Israel. Israel bombed Iran in 1981 because of their nuclear site.
And if you want some REALLY interesting reading, go find a book on the Six Day War between Israel and Egypt. It was by the Hand of God that Israel was victorious.
Not necessarily. I believe the UN is a tool of whatever faction is bringing about a one-world government.
Fair enough. If you're right, when we die, we die. If I'm right, well... Let's just say I'll stick with my faith.
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 2 Peter 3:3-5
Maybe they'll use the NIV or the NLT version of the Bible. Those are more meaning-oriented and less word-for-word oriented. Much easier to understand. Once you get those read then you can pick up a KJV and understand it easier.
Yup. That sums it up. Satan, the antichrist, the false prophet and those who have chosen to reject God are thrown in the lake of fire after the 1000 year reign of Christ. This is a place of torment described in the Bible as causing constant gnashing of teeth. Doesn't sound like a fun place to be.
It's funny how that Landover Baptist Church site is so blasphemous, yet there is a link there to buy a book called The Mark, which is a selection from the Left Behind series. It was that first book, Left Behind, that I read and was saved before I finished the book.
I suppose they are still hoping to cash in on those who visit their site regularly with Bible-based Christian fiction?
I don't know, but I hear Heck is the place people go to that don't believe in Gosh.
This Air America thing replaced a bunch of local ethnic stations so people could listen to Al Franken and Jeneanne Garofalo
I thought the liberals cared for the little guy and was the voice of the minority?
if liberals want to compete with conservative talk radio, they need the Reverend Al.
Better than Reverend Jesse. That guy is waste of space. I think if the liberals really want to compete with conservative talk radio, they should become conservatives.
No wonder they aren't doing so well
I guess lies aren't as popular as they used to be.
I'm not trying to troll; I am really in agreement with the parent post and was just elaborating on the ridiculousness of the left.
No, no, no! Conservatives are GOOD. I've always thought that same opinion of NPR. I'm a talk radio junkie, too...although I do shy away from WLIB in NY for obvious reasons.
point out that ClearChan has also been behind a lot of public radio stations being taken over and given to the christian networks
Really? Given over to Christian networks? That's interesting. Why would CC hand over conquered stations to Christian networks? Can you site a news article or something on this? I'd love to read it.
If the example is things like the Ten Commandments monuments you are wrong. Government display of such things constitutes an endorsment of religion which is prohibited
Better throw away your money, then. It reads, "In God We Trust".
The First Amendment reads, in part:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"
I fail to see how displaying the Ten Commandments on government property establishes a national religion. Is the government making you worship God as compared to someone/something else? No. In some countries if you practice a religion that isn't on the books, you're executed.
Pro-life, prayer in schools and handgun ownership. Well known opinions of the left.
You mean the right - the conservative view. The left is generally pro-abortion, anti-prayer in school and anti-gun ownership.
I could just as easily have faith in something other than your Bible. You quote an old book that says some invisible creature has super powers. Do you realize how unconvincing your argument is?
I can't convince you as I can only plant the seed in your mind. One day every knee will bow to God and confess Him as Lord whether you believe it or not. Like I said in another post, you know you have a brain but you've never seen it. You have thoughts, although they only exist in your mind. You know they are there. Same thing with God.
Rose from their graves? How does one move once the muscles have rotted? Do you want to know what you see when your eyes rot? You can do a simple experiment. Just excise your eyes (you can use a scalpel or sharp melon baller). What does one hear once both cochlea have decomposed? They hear the same thing that deaf people do. Once the cerebral cortex has been destroyed, the subject can no longer speak or read. I doubt that any thought occurs either.
...with God all things are possible. (Matthew 19:26)
Have faith!
The Bible teaches that before the start of the tribulation believers in Christ will be taken to meeet the Lord in the clouds. Specifially, the Bible says that the dead in Christ shall rise first then those who remain alive on earth will follow. All will receive glorified bodies instantly (or in the twinkling of an eye, the Bible says). Enoch was taken as a matter of fact. The book of Genesis says that Enoch lived three hundred sixty-five years and he was no more because God took him. (The actual verses are Genesis 5:23-24).
I'm not here to argue. I will defend my faith and try to instill a sense of urgency among believers and non-believers alike that Jesus is coming soon. Don't be left behind!
yet you subscribe to a faith that has the non-Jesus-loving Jews
No I don't. I am a Christian. They are Jews. Not the same faith. The Jews rejected the Messiah and therefore stopped the 70 weeks' plan in the book of Daniel until the rapture of the church sometime in the future.
Your brain exists, right? You haven't seen it, touched it, heard it, tasted it or smelled it - but by faith you know it's there. You think thoughts, right? They only exist in your mind - so there's no proof they exist. But it's a fact that your thoughts and your brain exists. Why not God?
Don't do what the Bible says. Don't necessarily believe what it claims Jesus said.
Why not? The Bible is the absolute truth. It's not a buffet where you can pick what you like. It's all or nothing. The Bible is the inspired Word of God. Just because it isn't politically correct doesn't make it wrong. It's people that are wrong, not God.
with respect for those of different faiths than his (remember, he was a Jew)
I don't believe that is the right way to live. That's straight out of a liberal bible.
There is only one way to Heaven - through the blood of Jesus Christ. All others are false religions that lead to death and destruction. The Bible says there is one true God. If you have respect for other faiths, that means you're willing to let these people live an eternal life of suffering. Not a very Christian thing to do. Spread the Good News! Jesus is coming!
and above all the knowledge that you don't have the right or authority to judge anyone, for only the Lord knows what's in your heart.
There you go. Back on track.
How about quoting more New Testament scripture. I see Mark 10:9 there, but most Bible scholars like yourself know that the Old Testament is the old law; the New Testament is the new law.
So God said these things or these were the items that happened historically? What is the context of these verses?
The Bible says that homosexuality is an abomination before God.
The Bible also says that the believer of the household manages to cover for any other unbelievers in the household.
Mark 10:9 says it all. Divorce is wrong. Just like abortion is wrong. Adultery is wrong. Lust over someone other than your wife/husband is wrong. Unfortunately just because the law of man says one thing, it's not always the right way.
Please don't condemn my God before you understand fully what you're talking about.
I leave with you some of 2 Timothy 3:1-7
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Please accept Jesus into your heart today for tomorrow is promised to no man.
Sure, he didn't pull the trigger or nail himself to a cross. On that same merit I can jump in front of a moving bus and blame the driver for not stopping. The point is that he intentionally let himself die, which qualifies him as suicidal in many people's eyes.
However, if you die, you don't take the sins of the world and give life to anyone who wants it. The book of Matthew says that when Jesus died, the curtain was torn in the temple, an earthquake shook the earth and dead saints rose from their graves and went to Jerusalem.
People wanting to commit suicide, look for a quick, painless death (gun to the head, in a garage with a running car, etc). If Jesus was suicidal, there is no way he would have choosen crucifixtion as his death of choice as it is accept by many scholars as being the most painful and slowest way to die. Thus I don't believe your theory for a second that Jesus was suicidal.
I agree. Crucifixion causes you to die from suffocation. When Jesus was crucified alongside the two criminals, the Roman soldiers broke the legs of the two criminals to help them die quicker. (You could push up with your legs to breathe - eventually you become so weak that you can no longer push and you suffocate).
Jesus was not suicidal. Jesus was crucified by the Romans and by the demanding of some Jews for claiming he was the King of the Jews. (I am not knocking the Jews - just stating fact. I still believe the Jews are God's people and 144,000 of them will be sealed during the tribulation after they come to Christ.) One day many Christians will suffer a similar fate at the hands of the Antichrist and his one-world government. Take the mark or lose your life. Once you take the mark, your eternal position is set in stone and you will be eternally damned.
A kind and just god wouldn't punish Jesus in order to exonerate others. If I were omnipotent, I would eradicate pain, suffering, and death unconditionally.
Adam and Eve had the choice. Follow God or die. Remember, their pain, suffering and laboring didn't start until AFTER both took from the tree of good and evil. They had a choice. Now we suffer because of original sin.
God didn't punish Jesus. Jesus of Nazareth could have had the angels come take Him from the cross at a moments' notice. He didn't. He died so you could live. Do you think God punishes you because you cut yourself or bruise your arm or get into a car accident? The one true living God loves us - but he does give us free will. Jesus did NOT have to die for any of us - it was His choice. Unfortunately His choice to die so that you can live outside of eternal pain and gnashing of teeth for eternity is very underappreciated by many. I wouldn't come to such a secular website and share my beliefs at the risk of being heckled if I didn't have faith. I hope you'll re-examine yours and accept Christ as your savior today. Tomorrow is promised to no man.
Isreal does not target civilians. They target terrorists. Civilians get killed, and Isreal IS to blame for the deaths of a lot of innocent Palestinians, but they do not specifically target civilians. And they ARE justified in killing terrorists. Even ones that use human shields, and specially the ones that use children as human bombs, with or without the childs knowledge. You're just trying to excuse the actions of Palestinians, because they're the underdog of the left wing at the moment.
Exactly. Israel is willing to give up all this land (that is theirs, by the way) for peace and what happens? Those with whom they are trying to make peace still send in the suicide bombers.
There will be no sustainable peace in Israel until close to the end of days. And then it's only temporary.