Not licensing FairPlay is hardly an illegitimate abuse of their market position.
I invite you to tell me how it is, considering that all it does is make people unable to play iTunes songs on other players. It's not like Apple, by denying them FairPlay, is denying them the ability to sell music.
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While it could be argued that MS overvalues XP, people generally download things they want because the price is zero. It doesn't matter how fair the price is, a large percentage will simply never pay because anything over $0 is too much for them.
The only problem we face is if that mentality becomes more prevalent than the idea it's good to pay people for their work (or for their investment.)
Note that without copyright, the company that duplicates the reels could make as many copies as they want. Or the people at the theaters could have copies made. Theaters wouldn't actually have to pay the studios to show the movie, and you could be sure they wouldn't.
Without copyright, no DVD would have any value since duplicators would crank out copies for $5 a pop.
And a fund? Look at how unwilling people are to part with money now. I doubt they'd be willing to pay for something sight unseen.
Get back to me when you have it figured out for every other form of non-physical creation. And just saying "oh well, no big $shitty_movie anymore" doesn't cut it, because for every $shitty_movie that doesn't get made there's likely a $great_movie that won't either.
They may be out of touch but damning them to destruction in any case by eliminating copyright will get nothing done, since it would destroy far more than it would create.
The entire FOSS movement that relies on the GPL, for example. Or studios that actually produce GOOD works.
Yes I agree that the "lack of sales == piracy" BS spouted by most studios does no one any good, but neither does stripping a logical means of funding the creation of purely informational products.
i don't think most people who download from p2p nets do so because they refuse to pay for something, i think that it's because there's no middle ground reasonable option.
You'd be suprised. People given an option to download something for free or pay anything, and a lot of people will just download it.
It's the "if it's not nailed down..." theory applied to non-physical objects, sans the guilt because they logically haven't actually stolen anything.
Pro-piracy arguments always seem to fall on their face for me because they seem to imply that the "fans" exist before the show does. Yet how many times have I read on this site alone that people would never have bought the show if they hadn't seen it before hand, and would never buy a show without seeing it first.
Without copyright you'll never see a show made without it being bought and paid for before production. Who knows what you'll get?
a market which was NOTHING until "piracy" saved it and brought Anime interest in the market. Do you think that Anime/Manga would exist if not for the huge black market in the US for the first few years? Now there is a growing market that exists WITHOUT big distributors enabling it to exist and blossom -- fans pay for what fans want to see more of.
I've heard this argument before and I still think it's a load of crap. The people who download anime freely are most often those who are least likely to buy it. People forget that there was huge, HUGE interest generated after Bandai and Pioneer (now Geneon) on Cartoon Network. Far more than the mediocre audience garnered by digisubs in 2000. In fact I'll wager the reverse was true, all the digisub groups experienced an explosion in popularity once people realized they could go on and download it without having to pay for it at all.
DRM absolutely *can* be fought. Just tell everyone about the free & superior compeditor to Netflix: The Pirate Bay.
Yes, give them even MORE of an excuse to point at.
If you don't want to support DRM in any way you don't partake of the products produced by said companies. You don't buy it, you don't download it in violation of their copyright. One way gives them funds, the other gives them an excuse.
The idea isn't to prevent piracy, but to provide some means of more secure authentication because people are getting their accounts "hacked" where "hacked" means they had an easily guessed username and password, or their machine is riddled with trojans and someone captured their password.
a) prohibit authors et al from having copyrights if they use DRM at all I guess. But DRM is futile as it is. If people respected (and pushed to fix) copyright then publishers and authors (and the music/movie industries) probably wouldn't think it was necessary. As it is the internet-going masses don't, so both sides have black eyes.
c) to make some other alterations to copyright, such as beefing up deposit requirements (so that electronic copies are on file with the Library of Congress) This is a perfectly reasonable requirement for copyright.
and shortening term lengths (so that the book will enter the public domain quite rapidly, if the author et al even bothers to pursue copyright to begin with). 14 years is pretty much good enough, maybe a renew to 28 years. But it's rare that an author wouldn't bother with copyright, after all, it takes time to write a book and you need to eat/sleep/have a place to live during that time. Releasing works into the public domain doesn't exactly bring in the money, unless someone else paid you. And then you're writing what they want, not what you want.
Tiny Firewall provides a security module that requires the user authorize every unknown application be manually allowed to run.
While I have yet to see any unknown process start on my machine, none (not even ones started by trusted processes) are allowed to proceed without first being given the OK by me. I'd give it a shot and see if TF 2006 can catch it for you.
My primary point was that being disappointed with a unit because it's not homebrew friendly is silly because they're never intended to be used for homebrew in the first place. Just because Nintendo's lockouts are weaker doesn't necessarily make them better.
Also, once a unit is out they never update firmware, but newer units do have newer firmware. You can load FlashMe to get back wireless boot, but the developer of the WiFi utility refuses to support anything but one single wifi chip and no one else has bothered to help expand it and you -must- have the PCI or PCMCIA versions of these chips for it to work at all (of which my system has slots for neither.)
So DS development isn't easy as cake. Easier than the PSP, but by no means easy.
It has not lived up to my expectations, both as a gaming machine (the games mostly suck) and as a homebrew platform. I think I would have been much happier with a DS.
As a gaming platform it lacks, but going into it expecting it to be a homebrew platform (and being disappointed) is nigh upon ridiculous. You won't have much better luck with the DS, seeing as how the only way to get homebrew on it now is to:
1) Buy a 20-30$ device that you will use exactly once to install a loader that will void your warranty. 2) Buy a device and a programmable GBA cart on which you will load DS programs, which have to be manipulated in strange ways due to capacity and access limits of GBA cartriges.
It's a better gaming platform, to be sure. But it is no friendlier for homebrew development, even less so now that you have to write to a cart in some fashion to test it (no wireless boot or loading ROMs over the link cable for testing.) Just to test something on my DS would require me to hook up my GBA, write the cart, swap the cart to the DS, then start the ROM. Not very easy.
I asked the actors, all anime seiyuus (voice actors), a similar question to the one stated here - what was their opinion of their productions being distributed for free around the internet? Scott said that he didn't care one bit because voice actors are paid a flat fee regardless of the popularity of the show. 2 of the actors who did voices for Dragonball Z agreed with this wholeheartedly.
Considering they're the second set of voice actors to do roles on the show as well as not financially invested in the show I doubt they'd care. They've been paid. The response likely changes as you get to the people responsible for the production of the show, both the original production and the regional localization. They've invested a chunk of change in preparing something for people to enjoy in exchange for compensation.
The voice actors are only one small part in the production of a show, hired to do their part (much like the animators, writers, and other staff.) However, justifying the warezing of shows on the fact that the staff is already paid is fairly poor, as one of the best ways for them to stay employed is the success of shows enjoyed.
After all, without financial success in DVD sales I doubt Futurama would be making a comeback no matter how huge its fanbase was.
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Not licensing FairPlay is hardly an illegitimate abuse of their market position.
I invite you to tell me how it is, considering that all it does is make people unable to play iTunes songs on other players. It's not like Apple, by denying them FairPlay, is denying them the ability to sell music.
While it could be argued that MS overvalues XP, people generally download things they want because the price is zero. It doesn't matter how fair the price is, a large percentage will simply never pay because anything over $0 is too much for them.
The only problem we face is if that mentality becomes more prevalent than the idea it's good to pay people for their work (or for their investment.)
Note that without copyright, the company that duplicates the reels could make as many copies as they want. Or the people at the theaters could have copies made. Theaters wouldn't actually have to pay the studios to show the movie, and you could be sure they wouldn't.
Without copyright, no DVD would have any value since duplicators would crank out copies for $5 a pop.
And a fund? Look at how unwilling people are to part with money now. I doubt they'd be willing to pay for something sight unseen.
It could be, if the bands didn't let themselves get screwed by the companies.
There's nothing wrong with copyright that can't be fixed, but the malicious behavior is one of coroporate sociopathy and THAT is what must be stopped.
Well I guess you've got it all figured out.
For music.
Get back to me when you have it figured out for every other form of non-physical creation. And just saying "oh well, no big $shitty_movie anymore" doesn't cut it, because for every $shitty_movie that doesn't get made there's likely a $great_movie that won't either.
They may be out of touch but damning them to destruction in any case by eliminating copyright will get nothing done, since it would destroy far more than it would create.
The entire FOSS movement that relies on the GPL, for example. Or studios that actually produce GOOD works.
Yes I agree that the "lack of sales == piracy" BS spouted by most studios does no one any good, but neither does stripping a logical means of funding the creation of purely informational products.
i don't think most people who download from p2p nets do so because they refuse to pay for something, i think that it's because there's no middle ground reasonable option.
You'd be suprised. People given an option to download something for free or pay anything, and a lot of people will just download it.
It's the "if it's not nailed down..." theory applied to non-physical objects, sans the guilt because they logically haven't actually stolen anything.
Pro-piracy arguments always seem to fall on their face for me because they seem to imply that the "fans" exist before the show does. Yet how many times have I read on this site alone that people would never have bought the show if they hadn't seen it before hand, and would never buy a show without seeing it first.
Without copyright you'll never see a show made without it being bought and paid for before production. Who knows what you'll get?
a market which was NOTHING until "piracy" saved it and brought Anime interest in the market. Do you think that Anime/Manga would exist if not for the huge black market in the US for the first few years? Now there is a growing market that exists WITHOUT big distributors enabling it to exist and blossom -- fans pay for what fans want to see more of.
I've heard this argument before and I still think it's a load of crap. The people who download anime freely are most often those who are least likely to buy it. People forget that there was huge, HUGE interest generated after Bandai and Pioneer (now Geneon) on Cartoon Network. Far more than the mediocre audience garnered by digisubs in 2000. In fact I'll wager the reverse was true, all the digisub groups experienced an explosion in popularity once people realized they could go on and download it without having to pay for it at all.
Good luck creating the equivalent of "live performances" for TV shows, Movies, games, and animation.
So yes, buy that pirate DVD. Send money to people who never put effort into the creation of that show. Encourage the actual creators to make less.
DRM absolutely *can* be fought. Just tell everyone about the free & superior compeditor to Netflix: The Pirate Bay.
Yes, give them even MORE of an excuse to point at.
If you don't want to support DRM in any way you don't partake of the products produced by said companies. You don't buy it, you don't download it in violation of their copyright. One way gives them funds, the other gives them an excuse.
Congratulations, you missed the point.
The idea isn't to prevent piracy, but to provide some means of more secure authentication because people are getting their accounts "hacked" where "hacked" means they had an easily guessed username and password, or their machine is riddled with trojans and someone captured their password.
So they can be immature children on their own island?
Their attitude is damaging to their cause, which seems to be that of free movies, music, TV shows, and games, creators be damned.
Please proceed to apply generic, blanket, anti-corporate, anti-copyright statements.
Great way to make a completely invalid point.
There's no question that Mozart's works are in the public domain. But performances are still copyrighted. These have just been released freely.
Except they're not authorize to distribute the copies.
Thus they're in violation of copyright.
Citations are still required, even for the work of Government officials.
They've never been OK with it, it just hasn't been worth the expense to pursue it internationally.
This is changing, however, as some studios are pre-emptively warning fansubbers.
How long until providers disable this, so they can force you to go through their network and spend your minutes/data access fees.
a) prohibit authors et al from having copyrights if they use DRM at all
I guess. But DRM is futile as it is. If people respected (and pushed to fix) copyright then publishers and authors (and the music/movie industries) probably wouldn't think it was necessary. As it is the internet-going masses don't, so both sides have black eyes.
c) to make some other alterations to copyright, such as beefing up deposit requirements (so that electronic copies are on file with the Library of Congress)
This is a perfectly reasonable requirement for copyright.
and shortening term lengths (so that the book will enter the public domain quite rapidly, if the author et al even bothers to pursue copyright to begin with).
14 years is pretty much good enough, maybe a renew to 28 years. But it's rare that an author wouldn't bother with copyright, after all, it takes time to write a book and you need to eat/sleep/have a place to live during that time. Releasing works into the public domain doesn't exactly bring in the money, unless someone else paid you. And then you're writing what they want, not what you want.
Tiny Firewall provides a security module that requires the user authorize every unknown application be manually allowed to run.
While I have yet to see any unknown process start on my machine, none (not even ones started by trusted processes) are allowed to proceed without first being given the OK by me. I'd give it a shot and see if TF 2006 can catch it for you.
So if this was listed on the pirate bay, all you slashbots would be OK with it?
/troll
After all, it's only copyright violation!
Go remove Games from the categories you want to see.
No need to be an ass, but I guess that's par for the course with this article.
He means DVD rip groups, who spit on the creators and legal licensees as vigorously as possible.
Most fansubs use xvid/divx/h.264 and stick it in an AVI container with hardsubs.
I guess I'm a troll, because I'm not an idiot.
My primary point was that being disappointed with a unit because it's not homebrew friendly is silly because they're never intended to be used for homebrew in the first place. Just because Nintendo's lockouts are weaker doesn't necessarily make them better.
Also, once a unit is out they never update firmware, but newer units do have newer firmware. You can load FlashMe to get back wireless boot, but the developer of the WiFi utility refuses to support anything but one single wifi chip and no one else has bothered to help expand it and you -must- have the PCI or PCMCIA versions of these chips for it to work at all (of which my system has slots for neither.)
So DS development isn't easy as cake. Easier than the PSP, but by no means easy.
It has not lived up to my expectations, both as a gaming machine (the games mostly suck) and as a homebrew platform. I think I would have been much happier with a DS.
As a gaming platform it lacks, but going into it expecting it to be a homebrew platform (and being disappointed) is nigh upon ridiculous. You won't have much better luck with the DS, seeing as how the only way to get homebrew on it now is to:
1) Buy a 20-30$ device that you will use exactly once to install a loader that will void your warranty.
2) Buy a device and a programmable GBA cart on which you will load DS programs, which have to be manipulated in strange ways due to capacity and access limits of GBA cartriges.
It's a better gaming platform, to be sure. But it is no friendlier for homebrew development, even less so now that you have to write to a cart in some fashion to test it (no wireless boot or loading ROMs over the link cable for testing.) Just to test something on my DS would require me to hook up my GBA, write the cart, swap the cart to the DS, then start the ROM. Not very easy.
I asked the actors, all anime seiyuus (voice actors), a similar question to the one stated here - what was their opinion of their productions being distributed for free around the internet? Scott said that he didn't care one bit because voice actors are paid a flat fee regardless of the popularity of the show. 2 of the actors who did voices for Dragonball Z agreed with this wholeheartedly.
Considering they're the second set of voice actors to do roles on the show as well as not financially invested in the show I doubt they'd care. They've been paid. The response likely changes as you get to the people responsible for the production of the show, both the original production and the regional localization. They've invested a chunk of change in preparing something for people to enjoy in exchange for compensation.
The voice actors are only one small part in the production of a show, hired to do their part (much like the animators, writers, and other staff.) However, justifying the warezing of shows on the fact that the staff is already paid is fairly poor, as one of the best ways for them to stay employed is the success of shows enjoyed.
After all, without financial success in DVD sales I doubt Futurama would be making a comeback no matter how huge its fanbase was.