examines T-shirts, wallscrolls, DVD boxsets, figurines dotted around room
I'd be skeptical about the legitimate nature of the wallscrolls (most tend to be bootleg,) but so long as the dvd boxed sets/tshirts/figures aren't bootlegs you do more than a lot of fans that download do.
I have p2p tools like winny/share going 24/7, but I put my money where my mouth is like you do and support the creators.
This is more a general reference to the masses out there that by and large, don't.
"Bad" in the sense that they get lower ratings, but then Anime ratings are low as it is. They make little money off the TV airings and everything off DVD releases/licensed goods.
So you can have your Wii and new Anime, but it requires the anime fans support the studios.
Except that lately, even their anime is sucking. (unless you happen to enjoy cardboard cutout fanservice series, that is) It started about three or four years ago, and while there have always been a couple of good series, they are getting pretty thin.
Sturgeon's law applies to Anime. But then, don't apply your tastes and assume that everything you don't like -is- in fact bad.
And to the GP, the move away from TV to the Wii will definitely affect Anime. You don't seriously think they actually release directly to the web, do you?
I mean, after all, everyone knows torrents are only used for illegal activities like pirating software and spreading kiddy pr0n. Well, that and linux distro.iso's but those should be illegal anyway. Damn hippies and their free shit.
By and large, yeah, it's mostly warez. Rare cases like yours where you upload your own works and linux isos are the exception to the rule.
Of course, that has nothing to do with TPB. Torrents exist without a site run by immature people who insult and berate anyone who speaks with them.
Despite that, if this is a tactic by their enemies it's low and pathetic.
In short, piracy only exists because the original media is disproportionately priced compared to its production cost.
Correction: It exists because people are cheap, and will pay exactly zero if they can get away with it. I like your post, it's full of missteps I see often in slashdot posts. For instance:
And yet content producers want to charge the same or more for this cheaper to distribute content?
The expense ISN'T in the distribution. It's in the initial production but recouped at distribution time.
Why not sell a product/service that cannot be easily reproduced, such that your actually providing value for money.
So only physical things have value? Anything that can be copied easily has a value of zero? Please, go tell all the artists and production companies out there that their work is worthless, please.
Movies shown in a cinema spring to mind, the cost of a cinema size screen and sound system is beyond the means of most people. And then there's live concerts for music.
Congratulations, the old "concert" defense. That only works for music. And what's this I hear about people hating cinemas because they're a bad environment. People like to set up home theaters with their own equipment. Never mind that it'd be a real hassle going out to watch a 30 minute or hour showing of something (and good luck if what you like isn't hugely popular, those theaters will be showing American Idol every night...)
DRM is a poorly planned, knee-jerk reaction to a very obvious message from the internet community, namely that they will treat the internet like a Hong Kong market where everything and then some is warezed. Making DRM unnecessary would require effort on both parts, which considering the attitude of most slashdotters who love to suck The Pirate Bay's cock I doubt is forthcoming.
Your argument is patently ridiculous for so, so many reasons.
do you suffer from where you think you know and own all the music you will ever want to listen to in your life
No, I'm constantly looking. But I look online, buy (usually internationally,) and load them on my iPod.
not that pop music stations will satisfy your cravings
Of course not, the only radio station worth a damn around here is NPR, which I can listen to in my car. Or I can get a clock radio, of which I have several. No need for excess power consumption in my music player for something I use fairly little.
but you apparently live in some alien planet where there are no alternative local stations
Define "alternative local stations" in a manner that doesn't refer exclusively to what you listen to.
what a static, dead way to think about music.
Whoops, that's you making assumptions and speaking without knowing anything.
a true lover of music is always sampling new things.
Yup, which is why my music collection has a tendency to grow. My iPod is almost maxed. Did I mention that a large part of my music collection is, in fact, in Japanese?
i frankly don't know what kind of music listener you are
Of course you don't, the only kind of music listener you know of is yourself. Which is why your argument is patently ridiculous.
but you seemed to have lost your passion in life
I thought you said you didn't know what kind of music listener I was?
The fact that I don't want, or care for, a radio in my iPod speaks NOTHING as to my taste in music. It simply means that radio is USELESS to me. I find out more about music via the internet, and if I -do- want to listen to the radio I have a bunch others that I can use. Spare me the expense.
Why the hell do I need a radio when I have 20GB of music on demand? Especially when it's all music I WANT to hear?
Radios aren't essential equipment, the lack of a radio doesn't inhibit my use of a computer (technically, nor does the lack of a mouse or keyboard for a properly set up machine...)
iPods don't need radios built in. sticking the circuitry in there would likely cause interference that the form factor would make unavoidable. And if you really want a radio addon, go buy the new one that plugs in-line uisng the dock connector.
There are, you know, reasonable conjectures that can be made when building things.
Expecting to have a fuel truck explode and cause an extremely intense fire right underneath that spot likely wasn't expected. A car fire maybe, but not that.
Hindsight is always 20/20, and it's even clearer for armchair engineers.
1. Apple needs to add a checkbox here to allow immediate reboots when complete. Small gaffe, still more reliable and faster than windows update (3 trips, 2 reboots last patch lump.)
2. Sleep has priority over other actions, and is handled by the kernel and not Finder. If you tell it to shutdown, you have to wait for the OS to shut down or the kernel will catch the lid closing and put the thing to sleep, only to wake up to Finder firing off a shutdown command. That said, it's sleep-wake behavior is light years beyond 2K/XP where you couldn't even be sure it'd come back.
Apple does sweat the small stuff, it's once you get past that you see what Apple still has to refine. And then you go back to Windows and see all the huge stuff Microsoft blithely ignores.
You seem to have an overly generous view of humanity.
It is called patronage, and you would not need to be rich to join the game.
And many great works from before copyright were paid for by kings, to artists who jealously guarded their works.
1000 people paying 10 bucks could encourage a writer to write a new book for this group of patrons.
Assuming you want your authors to live at minimum wage or worse. And an un-established author won't get any support at all, as you'd risk spending money on something that could easily be bad. The willingness to take risks would be stripped.
No one intelligent has said that without copyright the creation of works would stop. What they have said, and slashbots like to ignore, is that it would fall to a trickle and like the GP said, all we'd get is a deluge of reality TV and super-restrictive contracts.
Yes, you'd get nothing but more SURVIVOR and AMERICAN IDOL, because it's cheap, has guaranteed ratings, and only holds its value up until the point that it's watched. Not the kind of intellectual environment I'd enjoy seeing domniate the airwaves when so much better could be had for a minor tradeoff.
If American wanted to really do what's best for the world and its self then it should be spending trillions on things like developing vaccines and then giving the technology away for free.
Indeed. And when we're bankrupt we can go back to the rest of the world for help, right?
Ok, then come up with a reasonable argument as to why the corporation, having been ripped off, should continue to do business?
While the people involved have been paid, the corporation paid them. If you rip off the company, you are ripping off the people who did the work. Not right -now-, but in the future.
Of course, slashbots like to ignore distinctions like the fact that a company that goes out of business because it got ripped off, suddenly can't pay people to do the work. The people involved can always go into business for themselves (and get ripped off) or do the work freely (with no pay, of course, however that works.)
the fact that some things are copyrighted and you have to pay for them
Considering how many people generally download music, movies, etc. without a clue about the politics surrounding doing as such, I would argue that the above quote is more true.
Don't even try to say that the PS3 is a superior game console to the Xbox 360. F.E.A.R. was just released on the PS3 and it has inferior graphics to the Xbox360 or PC. The PS3 version was released 6 months after the Xbox 360 version. Nearly every game released on both platforms has inferior graphics and no online for the PS3 version.
Considering that the Xbox360 and (windows) PC ports both likely use DirectX, I imagine the port back and forth was cake. Not only that but the PS3 is a much more difficult system to get working so yeah, if they barge headlong into ports without actually working to make the graphics look good then sure, it'll suck. I imagine most of those 6 months was spent porting away from DirectX, y'know, Microsoft's lock-in for graphics/input/sound APIs. Microsoft makes it easy to write for the platform, but a bitch to port away from.
A lack of online for PS3 version smacks of laziness on behalf of the publishers, since they can just slop the online component off on microsoft for the xbox360 verison. They'd actually have to provide a service for their customers, but don't want to.
Games make a console. This screams shitty ports and half-ass releases rather than "omg the ps3 sucks." The PS3 isn't going anywhere, and I certainly hope no one wishes Microsoft total victory. Wouldn't be the first time they forced their way into a market, only to effectively destroy it (What's that? Six years between browser releases what? Still incompatible?)
Tell me again why I want to buy a console from a company that was convicted of abusing their position in one market to take over another?
Anything they can put their hands on will be redistributed, copied and plagiarized.
Because of course dishonesty and disrespect are to be expected, nay, encouraged!
If no profit can be had from it in 50 years then we will see a lot less made. Despite the bizzare glee that some slashbots find in the thought of a dramatic drop in the creation of works (be they anything,) I think it would be a tragic loss to see creative output go from what it is now to a fraction.
They don't for the same reason their mouse has one button. And it's not because "Apple is behind the times" as some insinuate.
This is why DRM is an all songs or none deal for Apple. This way there is no question, all songs work with iPods and only iPods. If they drop DRM, then they work with ALL players.
Of course, I'll believe the EU push when they decide to start riding the asses of stores that distribute using the far more insidious PlaysForSure or Zune system.
Could we better compete with China if, instead of running around a gym for an hour, every American high school student got an extra hour of math, science, or computer instruction? Considering they clean our clocks not on superior academics but on cheap labor, I don't think an extra hour of anything would compensate for the difference in cost of living/lack of labor controls in China.
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examines T-shirts, wallscrolls, DVD boxsets, figurines dotted around room
I'd be skeptical about the legitimate nature of the wallscrolls (most tend to be bootleg,) but so long as the dvd boxed sets/tshirts/figures aren't bootlegs you do more than a lot of fans that download do.
I have p2p tools like winny/share going 24/7, but I put my money where my mouth is like you do and support the creators.
This is more a general reference to the masses out there that by and large, don't.
"Bad" in the sense that they get lower ratings, but then Anime ratings are low as it is. They make little money off the TV airings and everything off DVD releases/licensed goods.
So you can have your Wii and new Anime, but it requires the anime fans support the studios.
Except that lately, even their anime is sucking. (unless you happen to enjoy cardboard cutout fanservice series, that is) It started about three or four years ago, and while there have always been a couple of good series, they are getting pretty thin.
Sturgeon's law applies to Anime. But then, don't apply your tastes and assume that everything you don't like -is- in fact bad.
And to the GP, the move away from TV to the Wii will definitely affect Anime. You don't seriously think they actually release directly to the web, do you?
I mean, after all, everyone knows torrents are only used for illegal activities like pirating software and spreading kiddy pr0n. Well, that and linux distro .iso's but those should be illegal anyway. Damn hippies and their free shit.
By and large, yeah, it's mostly warez. Rare cases like yours where you upload your own works and linux isos are the exception to the rule.
Of course, that has nothing to do with TPB. Torrents exist without a site run by immature people who insult and berate anyone who speaks with them.
Despite that, if this is a tactic by their enemies it's low and pathetic.
Slashbots like to reduce things to the cost of physical materials and labor involved only.
Why do you think that movies/music/games are worth only the cost of physical media to them?
Development? R&D? Nah, all that's free. Only the PRESSING costs money. According to the slashbots.
Correction: It exists because people are cheap, and will pay exactly zero if they can get away with it. I like your post, it's full of missteps I see often in slashdot posts. For instance:
The expense ISN'T in the distribution. It's in the initial production but recouped at distribution time.
So only physical things have value? Anything that can be copied easily has a value of zero? Please, go tell all the artists and production companies out there that their work is worthless, please.
Congratulations, the old "concert" defense. That only works for music. And what's this I hear about people hating cinemas because they're a bad environment. People like to set up home theaters with their own equipment. Never mind that it'd be a real hassle going out to watch a 30 minute or hour showing of something (and good luck if what you like isn't hugely popular, those theaters will be showing American Idol every night...)
DRM is a poorly planned, knee-jerk reaction to a very obvious message from the internet community, namely that they will treat the internet like a Hong Kong market where everything and then some is warezed. Making DRM unnecessary would require effort on both parts, which considering the attitude of most slashdotters who love to suck The Pirate Bay's cock I doubt is forthcoming.
Who's the snob, the one who knows what he likes or the one passing judgement on others?
Eh?
No, I'm constantly looking. But I look online, buy (usually internationally,) and load them on my iPod.
Of course not, the only radio station worth a damn around here is NPR, which I can listen to in my car. Or I can get a clock radio, of which I have several. No need for excess power consumption in my music player for something I use fairly little.
Define "alternative local stations" in a manner that doesn't refer exclusively to what you listen to.
Whoops, that's you making assumptions and speaking without knowing anything.
Yup, which is why my music collection has a tendency to grow. My iPod is almost maxed. Did I mention that a large part of my music collection is, in fact, in Japanese?
Of course you don't, the only kind of music listener you know of is yourself. Which is why your argument is patently ridiculous.
I thought you said you didn't know what kind of music listener I was?
The fact that I don't want, or care for, a radio in my iPod speaks NOTHING as to my taste in music. It simply means that radio is USELESS to me. I find out more about music via the internet, and if I -do- want to listen to the radio I have a bunch others that I can use. Spare me the expense.
Why the hell do I need a radio when I have 20GB of music on demand? Especially when it's all music I WANT to hear?
Radios aren't essential equipment, the lack of a radio doesn't inhibit my use of a computer (technically, nor does the lack of a mouse or keyboard for a properly set up machine...)
iPods don't need radios built in. sticking the circuitry in there would likely cause interference that the form factor would make unavoidable. And if you really want a radio addon, go buy the new one that plugs in-line uisng the dock connector.
There are, you know, reasonable conjectures that can be made when building things.
Expecting to have a fuel truck explode and cause an extremely intense fire right underneath that spot likely wasn't expected. A car fire maybe, but not that.
Hindsight is always 20/20, and it's even clearer for armchair engineers.
Couple things
1. Apple needs to add a checkbox here to allow immediate reboots when complete. Small gaffe, still more reliable and faster than windows update (3 trips, 2 reboots last patch lump.)
2. Sleep has priority over other actions, and is handled by the kernel and not Finder. If you tell it to shutdown, you have to wait for the OS to shut down or the kernel will catch the lid closing and put the thing to sleep, only to wake up to Finder firing off a shutdown command. That said, it's sleep-wake behavior is light years beyond 2K/XP where you couldn't even be sure it'd come back.
Apple does sweat the small stuff, it's once you get past that you see what Apple still has to refine. And then you go back to Windows and see all the huge stuff Microsoft blithely ignores.
And many great works from before copyright were paid for by kings, to artists who jealously guarded their works.
Assuming you want your authors to live at minimum wage or worse. And an un-established author won't get any support at all, as you'd risk spending money on something that could easily be bad. The willingness to take risks would be stripped.
No one intelligent has said that without copyright the creation of works would stop. What they have said, and slashbots like to ignore, is that it would fall to a trickle and like the GP said, all we'd get is a deluge of reality TV and super-restrictive contracts.
Yes, you'd get nothing but more SURVIVOR and AMERICAN IDOL, because it's cheap, has guaranteed ratings, and only holds its value up until the point that it's watched. Not the kind of intellectual environment I'd enjoy seeing domniate the airwaves when so much better could be had for a minor tradeoff.
The tradeoff, however, needs to be fixed.
Why does it seem to me that without copyright, all we'd get are remixes of existing content?
Is that all people want to do? Are people truly not creative enough to come up with original material?
Or is it just that it's expensive, and they can't afford it?
Indeed. And when we're bankrupt we can go back to the rest of the world for help, right?
Right?
Ok, then come up with a reasonable argument as to why the corporation, having been ripped off, should continue to do business?
While the people involved have been paid, the corporation paid them. If you rip off the company, you are ripping off the people who did the work. Not right -now-, but in the future.
Of course, slashbots like to ignore distinctions like the fact that a company that goes out of business because it got ripped off, suddenly can't pay people to do the work. The people involved can always go into business for themselves (and get ripped off) or do the work freely (with no pay, of course, however that works.)
Considering how many people generally download music, movies, etc. without a clue about the politics surrounding doing as such, I would argue that the above quote is more true.
Considering that the Xbox360 and (windows) PC ports both likely use DirectX, I imagine the port back and forth was cake. Not only that but the PS3 is a much more difficult system to get working so yeah, if they barge headlong into ports without actually working to make the graphics look good then sure, it'll suck. I imagine most of those 6 months was spent porting away from DirectX, y'know, Microsoft's lock-in for graphics/input/sound APIs. Microsoft makes it easy to write for the platform, but a bitch to port away from.
A lack of online for PS3 version smacks of laziness on behalf of the publishers, since they can just slop the online component off on microsoft for the xbox360 verison. They'd actually have to provide a service for their customers, but don't want to.
Games make a console. This screams shitty ports and half-ass releases rather than "omg the ps3 sucks." The PS3 isn't going anywhere, and I certainly hope no one wishes Microsoft total victory. Wouldn't be the first time they forced their way into a market, only to effectively destroy it (What's that? Six years between browser releases what? Still incompatible?)
Tell me again why I want to buy a console from a company that was convicted of abusing their position in one market to take over another?
Go via a country whose foreign policy isn't completely asinine, 50 years after the fact.
No, he said worth purchasing.
You know, showing the creators support for their work. Unlike what the majority of TPB fans do.
Anything they can put their hands on will be redistributed, copied and plagiarized.
Because of course dishonesty and disrespect are to be expected, nay, encouraged!
If no profit can be had from it in 50 years then we will see a lot less made. Despite the bizzare glee that some slashbots find in the thought of a dramatic drop in the creation of works (be they anything,) I think it would be a tragic loss to see creative output go from what it is now to a fraction.
They don't for the same reason their mouse has one button. And it's not because "Apple is behind the times" as some insinuate.
This is why DRM is an all songs or none deal for Apple. This way there is no question, all songs work with iPods and only iPods. If they drop DRM, then they work with ALL players.
Of course, I'll believe the EU push when they decide to start riding the asses of stores that distribute using the far more insidious PlaysForSure or Zune system.
Could we better compete with China if, instead of running around a gym for an hour, every American high school student got an extra hour of math, science, or computer instruction?
Considering they clean our clocks not on superior academics but on cheap labor, I don't think an extra hour of anything would compensate for the difference in cost of living/lack of labor controls in China.
Fire the micro-Photon torpedos!
FARK has taught me to be wary of littlegreenfootballs, and any material sourced there.
Congratulations, you just killed Television.
Let's see how many other medium we can destroy by applying your theory.