Ah yes, the ever intelligent commentary on Slashdot.
What video did you watch? Was it made within the last few months? You do realize (if the video is covering Weston) that Weston is not only new but also a reference implementation and not intended for production use, right?
This has not a goddamn thing to do with why "Linux on the desktop has failed."
Also, isn't WinRT for tablets / ARM devices / that kind of thing?
It's a case of Microsoft using needlessly confusing terminology. Windows RT is Windows 8 for ARM devices. WinRT are new APIs available as part of Windows 8.
Ksplice is mostly of use (almost exclusively of use) in mission critical environments where the downtime to reboot into a fixed kernel alone is unacceptable. It also only covers the kernel, and not anything else.
Well, ten years is a lot of time. Perhaps you should grab a distro and try it out?
Is there a distribution that has its own binary format?
No, all executable binaries and libraries are ELF.
it seemed fine except it didn't have the ability to download executables off the Internet and run them
Well, no. Linux doesn't behave like Windows.
Linux is basically immune to viruses.
Viruses are not what you should be concerned about. Trojans and other such packages are a problem and Linux is not immune.
I would constantly struggle compiling and installing software enough that it was a big headache.
That's what package managers are for.
I also thing the advantages of not being gun shy about downloading random executables from the Internet, would lead me to like Linux even more than Windows.
No, downloading and running random executables is foolish in the extreme, regardless of OS.
#1 is required only as a facet of the GPLv3. #2 is where obscure distros leverage their userbase. Thus Steam for Linux is already running on many distros other than just Ubuntu, even if Valve doesn't officially support them.
Try to install a new X server from source, or try to update some relevant library (to be able to use shiny new application with obscure or alpha dependencies), and you will see the problem that I are talking about.
Wait, when is a user of Ubuntu, particularly a non-technical user, ever going to do that?
The kernel Linux is stable, but the software needed to make the desktop work are incomplete, inconsistent or simply broken.
Your arguments are more incomplete, inconsistent, or simply broken than the platform you're trying to attack is.
it does not break the existing applications on each relevant update
Can you explain how this is expressed in the Linux world? I know unsubstantiated claims made to attack Linux are acceptable (unlike every other platform) but I insist that you expand upon this.
Have you ever gone into a situation where you thought you would be debunking something only to find out that the person was on the level?
Given the crackpots and claims that are tested, I think we'd have heard about someone winning the million dollars by now.
if a debunker had heard of penicillin (being cured of small pox by using bread mold!?!
Well, then said debunker would have been dead right quick as smallpox is a virus, and we know all about viruses and antibiotics...
Is there ever a case where you were debunking actual advancement and decided that it didn't need to be debunked after all?
I suspect an actual case of advancement (whatever that means in this context) would probably have an easier time getting a research grant by providing actual, testable evidence rather than having to go through Randi's screening and winning his million dollars. After all, if it could survive that it isn't hocus pocus quackery but something real.
Given that the patent system directly supports his current anti-economic activity, do you seriously think he's going to give you the answer he wants? I'm sure he'll go "oh yes it's broken, there are so many areas not covered by patents that should be..."
Sell it and buy something they can use as they see fit? I hear Apple fans gibber on constantly about the resale value of their devices, so you should be able to get a good price I suppose.
Err no. The Raspberry Pi is not "jailbroken." It was never crippled in the first place. It's basically a standard PC except with an ARMv6 CPU on a board the size of a credit card.
I suppose the point of my comment is that computers have to be deliberately designed to be crippled and locked down, in contrast to the standard state of a computer.
Perhaps if Mastercard and Visa hadn't allowed PaypaI to usurp what they could very well have done themselves, long ago, they wouldn't be in this situation. I've always wanted the ability to painlessly send someone money, directly, and it's idiotic that paypaI (and other 3rd party wallet services) are the only way to do it. Completely redundant.
You'll still need a plugin. Something has to decrypt the video stream, and that thing HAS to be closed source. Aiding and abetting DRM will simply give those who wish to use it even more power. So you will hasten the demise of Flash and Sliverlight, so what. You will introduce a browser-level means for encryption, which could readily (and if this goes in will be) used to force encryption on entire websites.
This solves ZERO problems. None. I suspect, rather, it will introduce even more closed binary modules on systems with even weaker cross platform support and even more security holes.
Absolutely nothing is to be said for that. You would still be limited to whatever platforms Netflix chose to target with their encryption module, and vulnerable to whatever exploits said module introduces. I suspect that said module would become the linchpin for all licensing negotiations, thus crippling the ability for all devices to be HTML5 compatible.
I expect that what will happen if EME is adopted, is that it will be extended to cover entire websites with the next revision.
Thus EME promises to solve no problems and make the future of the open web extremely dark.
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Ah yes, the ever intelligent commentary on Slashdot.
What video did you watch? Was it made within the last few months? You do realize (if the video is covering Weston) that Weston is not only new but also a reference implementation and not intended for production use, right?
This has not a goddamn thing to do with why "Linux on the desktop has failed."
It's a case of Microsoft using needlessly confusing terminology. Windows RT is Windows 8 for ARM devices. WinRT are new APIs available as part of Windows 8.
Ksplice is mostly of use (almost exclusively of use) in mission critical environments where the downtime to reboot into a fixed kernel alone is unacceptable. It also only covers the kernel, and not anything else.
Suing? I expect Valve is more knowledgeable about the GPL and needing to be compliant than most.
First, what is Livelink? Second, what makes you think they wouldn't?
I love unsubstantiated claims!
Well, ten years is a lot of time. Perhaps you should grab a distro and try it out?
No, all executable binaries and libraries are ELF.
Well, no. Linux doesn't behave like Windows.
Viruses are not what you should be concerned about. Trojans and other such packages are a problem and Linux is not immune.
That's what package managers are for.
No, downloading and running random executables is foolish in the extreme, regardless of OS.
The "Modern" environment, from day one, only allows installations of software signed by Microsoft. Ditto for anything using the WinRT APIs.
#1 is required only as a facet of the GPLv3.
#2 is where obscure distros leverage their userbase. Thus Steam for Linux is already running on many distros other than just Ubuntu, even if Valve doesn't officially support them.
No, it's not. You just don't realize it because.
Of course you don't have to. Yet. You also haven't used anything built on the WinRT APIs. You also aren't using Windows RT devices.
But make no mistake: Microsoft wants that aspect of Windows gone. And they'll keep marginalizing it and pushing the APIs that give them more control.
Wait, when is a user of Ubuntu, particularly a non-technical user, ever going to do that?
Your arguments are more incomplete, inconsistent, or simply broken than the platform you're trying to attack is.
Ok, so you won't back up your point when asked, and when asked you claim "oh you're a troll and I don't feed the troll!"
I suspect this is because you can't do more than come up with a contrived example, and because you don't like my opinions you avoid my request.
So you refuse to back up your claims? Good to know.
Can you explain how this is expressed in the Linux world? I know unsubstantiated claims made to attack Linux are acceptable (unlike every other platform) but I insist that you expand upon this.
Totally not Randi here, but what the hey!
Given the crackpots and claims that are tested, I think we'd have heard about someone winning the million dollars by now.
Well, then said debunker would have been dead right quick as smallpox is a virus, and we know all about viruses and antibiotics...
I suspect an actual case of advancement (whatever that means in this context) would probably have an easier time getting a research grant by providing actual, testable evidence rather than having to go through Randi's screening and winning his million dollars. After all, if it could survive that it isn't hocus pocus quackery but something real.
Barely 3 years since it was retroactively and unilaterally removed from existing systems.
The rootkit thing happened in 2006, not 1998.
Ah yes! More sequels! Fuck originality, I want to know what Madden 45 looks like!
Spur of the moment malice against an obviously marked package?
Given that the patent system directly supports his current anti-economic activity, do you seriously think he's going to give you the answer he wants? I'm sure he'll go "oh yes it's broken, there are so many areas not covered by patents that should be..."
Or maybe it means exactly what they said, and you're just hurt that people point out how religiously twisted the US is.
Yeah, just jailbreak. And enjoy the cat and mouse game with Apple as they try to stuff you back in the box with each update.
Which adds a nice layer of complication to a project.
No, the answer is to not use iOS devices. Apple obviously doesn't want you to.
Sell it and buy something they can use as they see fit? I hear Apple fans gibber on constantly about the resale value of their devices, so you should be able to get a good price I suppose.
Err no. The Raspberry Pi is not "jailbroken." It was never crippled in the first place. It's basically a standard PC except with an ARMv6 CPU on a board the size of a credit card.
I suppose the point of my comment is that computers have to be deliberately designed to be crippled and locked down, in contrast to the standard state of a computer.
Ah, yes. The "shut up and stop going beyond the lowest common denominator" argument. You are learning well from the Apple fans.
Perhaps if Mastercard and Visa hadn't allowed PaypaI to usurp what they could very well have done themselves, long ago, they wouldn't be in this situation. I've always wanted the ability to painlessly send someone money, directly, and it's idiotic that paypaI (and other 3rd party wallet services) are the only way to do it. Completely redundant.
All the DRM shills are out in force tonight.
You'll still need a plugin. Something has to decrypt the video stream, and that thing HAS to be closed source. Aiding and abetting DRM will simply give those who wish to use it even more power. So you will hasten the demise of Flash and Sliverlight, so what. You will introduce a browser-level means for encryption, which could readily (and if this goes in will be) used to force encryption on entire websites.
This solves ZERO problems. None. I suspect, rather, it will introduce even more closed binary modules on systems with even weaker cross platform support and even more security holes.
No, you'll have 1000 crappy DRM modules running in the background, exposing you to all of their flaws and limiting you to the platforms they support.
This solves no real problems, except to shift them from Flash/Silverlight to an unknown, black-box module.
Absolutely nothing is to be said for that. You would still be limited to whatever platforms Netflix chose to target with their encryption module, and vulnerable to whatever exploits said module introduces. I suspect that said module would become the linchpin for all licensing negotiations, thus crippling the ability for all devices to be HTML5 compatible.
I expect that what will happen if EME is adopted, is that it will be extended to cover entire websites with the next revision.
Thus EME promises to solve no problems and make the future of the open web extremely dark.