Consider the plane that just crashed in Denver, for example. Jet fuel leaked for hours, and the plane burnt badly, but I don't think anything exploded...
My old MP3 player wasn't an iPod, so I very carefully transferred any iTunes purchases to MP3 via rewritable CDs. Fortunately I don't buy much music so it wasn't very tedious.
Since I've bought an iPod, I've continued the process. It is, admittedly, more difficult, which is why I buy from Amazon MP3 first if a song is available there, and only buy iTunes if not. I experimented with Wal-Marts's store when they dropped DRM, but I can't shop there regularly.
(You hear that, Apple? I like your products enough to own your stock, but I still don't prefer your music store.)
You are incorrect. There is still solid investigative news journalism going on. You just don't notice it because of the flood of other news from the limited number of places you look (many of which are likely tailored to your interests), and that is the fault of the internet.
Look at the list of "ongoing special projects" on this page describing the investigative journalism at the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. Each of those stories was an extensive investigation followed by a series of articles. Every one of them went through several reviews to ensure objectivity and defense-ability, because true, print journals publishing libel is easy fodder for lawsuits. In several cases, the subjects of the stories were arrested and charged after the stories were published, based in part on the research.
I see your brain is too small to realize that emergency care is incredibly costly to provide, while preventative care is significantly cheaper. Your drive for minimal government involvement is costing taxpayers far more than a comprehensive system that provides better services.
Sure, I'll cover you're share of the 1% of the U.S. budget that might go to research and other similar tasks. Just as soon as you cover my share of the 57% of the U.S. budget that goes to defense, much of which is to protect us against people made rich and restless by oil, or to protect us against people upset because we occupy regions of the world that produce oil, or to protect the generation and transportation of oil in those regions.
As a member of my "professional guild association" - the IEEE - let me tell you that it wouldn't help you remotely. They'll advocate positions that you agree with barely 50% of the time, be mostly useless in helping you advance your career, and not really offer any other viable services for rank-and-file members besides socialization and a glossy magazine.
So what does that person do while he/she can't hold office? Unless that person is independently wealthy, self employed, or a lawyer, their only option post-job is to get a career that relies on their time in office - i.e. as a lobbyist or PR person or some other fluff job.
I think everyone who advocates term limits neglects to think about the type of people that are excluded from politics in that scenario. Another poster mentioned that only ideologues would run. I'm thinking about hard-working middle-class Americans who, sometimes, are willing to give up their career and run for a political office.
Post political career, do you think someone like that could just get hired right back into a software development job? No way. After a year or more of retraining, few companies would touch them because they'd fear the employee would bolt again.
I would gladly take a middle-class, normal person - who ran for public office and tried to stay in it for life, who never planned to leave office and thus never cut deals with lobbyists for a post-office job, and who knew he had to face the public every two/four/six years or lose his career - over someone who was just looking to buy his way from a strong ideology and good looks into a executive position at a defense contractor.
And? Texas collects a tax on entertainment subscriptions over the internet. I pay more than you do every month for my World of Warcraft account because of this. (I'm assuming you have a WoW account because you're human.)
It doesn't work that way. As long as emergency rooms will treat anyone who walks or is carried through the door, the health of your neighbor affects your tax rate (or your insurance rate, which is basically just a tax anyway).
And I don't want to live in a society where an emergency room checks your wallet before they check your pulse. And really, you don't want to, either.
Given that Mentor Graphic's Design Capture schematic utility (at least) uses tilde to indicate NOT (so that a bar appears over the letters indicated), your use here seems quite appropriate to me. Tildes before a letter only invert that letter, though; to do the entire word it must be at the end.
I can't accept the claim that 100% is very efficient when it's only 1/3 to 1/4 as efficient as alternatives, especially alternatives that use the same form of energy input (i.e. electricity).
Interesting. Similar lawsuits happened in the U.S. (not necessarily a common-law country, depends on what law we're written since the split) because of hurricane Katrina.
People's homes would have water damage, but the insurance companies wouldn't pay because the people didn't have flood insurance. However, many of these people's homes didn't flood; the water got in because the roof had been torn off (or just windows had been broken) by the hurricane. And the people's insurance did cover wind damage.
In other words, flooding (uninsured loss) was directly caused by wind (insured loss), so does insurance pay? After lawsuits, the answer here was yes.
And you use your PC immediately upon arrival? Don't you have voice mail to check first? A lunch to stow in the fridge?
As someone else pointed out, your IT department could set all machines to Wake on Lan an hour before the day starts, run virus checks, apply patches, etc., and have the machine hot and ready to run the minute you arrive. Then they can force them all into sleep again at night just after everyone has left. (Or detect the machine is still in use and not force it to sleep.)
A simple home-use system to do the above (i.e. a box that itself consumes very little power, but can programmatically connect/disconnect power to slaved power strips, and issue Wake/Sleep on Lan commands, would be a good invention.
My Macs (Mini and MacBook Pro) sleep beautifully. Strangely enough, my old Dell laptop running Windows XP hibernates beautifully. It's the only machine I've ever owned or even heard of that could hibernate and return without messing up, and as far as I know the only machine set to hibernate anywhere on the planet.
I can't get my home Linux server to even sleep correctly.
None of that justifies heating with electrical resistive elements. There are two flaws to your argument:
1. You mix using gas with whole-house heating.
These shouldn't be mixed. You can have a whole-house gas furnace, or you can have gas units (or a gas fireplace) in critical rooms. Likewise, you can have a whole-house electrical system, or one per room. Or, you could have electronically-controlled baffles for your air distribution, which cost relatively little but allow you to direct airflow to only specific rooms at specific times of day.
2. You are advocating resistive heating as efficient.
Resistive heating can be 100% efficient: every watt you purchase becomes a watt of heat in your room (until it leaks out the window).
But that's not efficient for heating. A heat pump uses the watt of energy you purchased to perform work, moving heat contained in the colder, outdoor air to the warmer, indoor air of your house. The net effect is that each watt you purchase can translate to 3-4 watts of heat in your room. While clearly not accurate syntax, a head-to-head comparison would call such a heat pump 300 to 400 percent efficient, significantly better than the mere 100% your resistive heater generates.
Then you can use electronic baffle control to direct the heat just to bedrooms at night, and result in an overall system that is quite efficient and doesn't rely on one particular fossil fuel to function.
disclaimers
My house heats with natural gas, and we have an electric heat pad on our bed for cold nights. In other words, we do exactly the things I advocate against. That doesn't make them right, it just makes my actions wrong.
Unless your street is made of 6-foot-thick stainless steel, it must be maintained. Who pays for that maintenance?
So far, no one, since in eight years it hasn't received any maintenance at all. In the mean time, I've been paying property taxes that contribute to maintenance of other streets in my city. When the time comes, my street will receive a portion of taxes as well, though most likely I'll never get back as much on my street as I've paid. (I do, of course, use other streets in my city, including ones that have had recent improvement.)
A minute ago it was too costly to invest in these projects. Now it's so cheap that a dozen different companies can afford to lay competing services. Which is it?
What? Again, you speak nonsense. What should be free market or regulated has nothing to do with the cost in this case. It has to do with the rights of the residents to band together to protect their property from disruption while gaining the maximum effect of competition on services.
Obviously privatization is the right answer as it is the only means that avoid individual rights violations.
Except, of course, for the rights of the residents to minimize the disruptions to their neighborhood, which you clearly care nothing for.
They have a flow-chart programming interface that I had great success introducing programming to my 11-13 year old cousins
For the record, it's a version of NI LabVIEW, and it's a good precursor for those students who may end up in the F.I.R.S.T. robotics competition or in a job in research or engineering.
Exactly. It's not like there's a chance that you could have person A take a serious picture, then toss down a smoke bomb and have person B slip in get the smiley picture.
You can level to 80 and also hit exalted with every reputation in the game without ever doing a daily quest.
Technically, I don't think this is true. You cannot reach exalted with the Tuskar faction without running their dailies. I don't think the tabard grind works for them. On the other hand, it only takes 7-9 total days to reach exalted after doing all the other quests.
Your street was paid for with money taken from people on the other side of town who will never drive down your street.
Actually my street was paid for by the private developers of my neighborhood, who passed the cost on to the lot buyers, who passed it on to me and the other residents. Then they donated the street to the city.
The rest of your reply is just babble. Do you want private enterprise laying competing road networks to my house, too? What about 7, 8, 12 different water mains being pulled in? I'm sure no one would mind their flower beds being torn up for the 5th sewer system.
Mediums work better if developed as a shared resource. Services work better in a free market, relying on those shared mediums. If you don't see that, I don't think I can say anything to convince you; I'll just be happy that you're the minority and I'm not.
- That flying mount you saved up for (worse, if you bought an epic) - can't use it until 77 or so. Bad call.
It actually helps when exploring the initial content. The world seems so much bigger at first. Note: quests hubs not only send you on to the next when you're done, but they give you a free flight! Note: I gained access to my flying mount after completing three zones. Not bad, really.
add flight combat based on class! That would also keep people from short circuiting quests, and be awesome.
Good idea for the per-class thing, but they DID add flying combat - lots of it! Many, many quests allow for flying combat, including some dailies. (Hence, my first suspicion that your one hour is inadequate to give the expansion a review.)
- Not a mage? Can't get to Dalaran until 74 (or so, I haven't done it yet). That's right, a major feature cut out for you while you grind. This really serves just to highlight the grind, not remove it.
My paladin got to Dalaran at 71. My wife's shaman bound there at 56. This limitation is non-existent thanks to two (or four) transportation methods: 1. Mage can port you there at any level. 2. Warlock can summon you there at any level. (3. Anyone of similar level can queue you for a battleground from there; when you leave the battleground you'll be there.) (4. If you die on another continent, you can travel there and spirit rez in town.)
There is no one who wants to be in Dalaran of any level who isn't there yet, if they've put in effort into it at all.
- More dailies...ugh
But much more variety in the dailies. What do you expect? Would you prefer the game before there were dailies? You don't have to do them. For several factions, they've included both dailies and the ability to grind faction in dungeons. Even better, you pick the faction you want to grind (by wearing the appropriate tabard), so you can do a different dungeon every day and grind the same faction, or just run your favorite dungeon and grind all the factions out.
...tailoring...
I don't have it; I don't use it; I can't comment. =p
Pretty much the minute logged in I was beat with the old problems that caused my entire guild to quit: "Heroic Nexus LF2M, need tank and 1dps (at least 1300DPS!)".
To be fair, as a pure tank I put out more than 1300 DPS. That's a pretty small number. There's no way any competent DPS player should be in a heroic instance with stats that low.
people unwilling to enter a dungeon that they don't outgear
There are also people who try to enter dungeons they undergear and expect to be carried through. There is supposed to be a minimum needed to run some places; otherwise people would just skip the intermediate steps and run the final instance, then call the whole expansion done.
you are at the mercy of trying to get 5 adults across 4 timezones, with wives and kids, to block out 1,2,3 hours to do a dungeon.
They've reduced the complexity, and greatly increased the variety, of the dungeons. The longest I've run is 45 minutes. Blizzard's goal is one hour.
Nothing in WoTLK addresses the elitist mentality the game has been designed for. The belief that only the hardcore deserve to be included in higher end dungeons and raids.
Except you can run the same raid zones in either 10- or 25-man versions, so you in your small guild can see all of the expansion content. (The 25-man gear is slightly better, yeah, but what do you expect? Do you think Blizzard wants all those 25-man players to get bored and leave?)
I have a better plan. If a company comes along and wants to lay parallel lines. Let them. Don't stop them in any way. Don't fine them. Remove all possible hindrances, anything that could turn them away. It'll start out small and slowly expand at the same time that the demand for cheaper service drives prices down. More and more people will have better and better service.
Sorry bud. The first time they tear up my street, I'll live with it. The second time, I'll bitch. The third time, I'll have my city passing a law banning parallel lines when there's existing fiber, and pushing for city maintenance of a common resource.
Some things just don't work when left to the free market. Now maybe my city doesn't need to do it; I'd be fine if my neighborhood association paid for the common fiber instead.
So the public would be taxed to pay for the city to lay the fiber, and then the increased tax on ISPs would be passed on to the same public to pay for service? This is your plan?
You think this would be more expensive than it is now? I pay for the cost for AT&T to lay the lines. Then I pay every month in increased costs because they have a monopoly. (Cable company here sucks; no HD yet and internet was lossy.) I'd love my city to lay fiber, then let ISPs compete to provide service over the common wire.
That's litte different than my electricity service, where the lines are owned by a regulated monopoly, but the suppliers compete on the free market.
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Consider the plane that just crashed in Denver, for example. Jet fuel leaked for hours, and the plane burnt badly, but I don't think anything exploded...
My old MP3 player wasn't an iPod, so I very carefully transferred any iTunes purchases to MP3 via rewritable CDs. Fortunately I don't buy much music so it wasn't very tedious.
Since I've bought an iPod, I've continued the process. It is, admittedly, more difficult, which is why I buy from Amazon MP3 first if a song is available there, and only buy iTunes if not. I experimented with Wal-Marts's store when they dropped DRM, but I can't shop there regularly.
(You hear that, Apple? I like your products enough to own your stock, but I still don't prefer your music store.)
You are incorrect. There is still solid investigative news journalism going on. You just don't notice it because of the flood of other news from the limited number of places you look (many of which are likely tailored to your interests), and that is the fault of the internet.
Look at the list of "ongoing special projects" on this page describing the investigative journalism at the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. Each of those stories was an extensive investigation followed by a series of articles. Every one of them went through several reviews to ensure objectivity and defense-ability, because true, print journals publishing libel is easy fodder for lawsuits. In several cases, the subjects of the stories were arrested and charged after the stories were published, based in part on the research.
I see your brain is too small to realize that emergency care is incredibly costly to provide, while preventative care is significantly cheaper. Your drive for minimal government involvement is costing taxpayers far more than a comprehensive system that provides better services.
Are you implying that this audience isn't interested in domes cities and artificial living environments??
Read some science fiction man! I grew up on this stuff.
Sure, I'll cover you're share of the 1% of the U.S. budget that might go to research and other similar tasks. Just as soon as you cover my share of the 57% of the U.S. budget that goes to defense, much of which is to protect us against people made rich and restless by oil, or to protect us against people upset because we occupy regions of the world that produce oil, or to protect the generation and transportation of oil in those regions.
As a member of my "professional guild association" - the IEEE - let me tell you that it wouldn't help you remotely. They'll advocate positions that you agree with barely 50% of the time, be mostly useless in helping you advance your career, and not really offer any other viable services for rank-and-file members besides socialization and a glossy magazine.
So what does that person do while he/she can't hold office? Unless that person is independently wealthy, self employed, or a lawyer, their only option post-job is to get a career that relies on their time in office - i.e. as a lobbyist or PR person or some other fluff job.
I think everyone who advocates term limits neglects to think about the type of people that are excluded from politics in that scenario. Another poster mentioned that only ideologues would run. I'm thinking about hard-working middle-class Americans who, sometimes, are willing to give up their career and run for a political office.
Post political career, do you think someone like that could just get hired right back into a software development job? No way. After a year or more of retraining, few companies would touch them because they'd fear the employee would bolt again.
I would gladly take a middle-class, normal person - who ran for public office and tried to stay in it for life, who never planned to leave office and thus never cut deals with lobbyists for a post-office job, and who knew he had to face the public every two/four/six years or lose his career - over someone who was just looking to buy his way from a strong ideology and good looks into a executive position at a defense contractor.
And? Texas collects a tax on entertainment subscriptions over the internet. I pay more than you do every month for my World of Warcraft account because of this. (I'm assuming you have a WoW account because you're human.)
If Texas can tax it, New York certainly can!
It doesn't work that way. As long as emergency rooms will treat anyone who walks or is carried through the door, the health of your neighbor affects your tax rate (or your insurance rate, which is basically just a tax anyway).
And I don't want to live in a society where an emergency room checks your wallet before they check your pulse. And really, you don't want to, either.
Or drool...
~yeah, ~as ~if ~that ~would ~work
Given that Mentor Graphic's Design Capture schematic utility (at least) uses tilde to indicate NOT (so that a bar appears over the letters indicated), your use here seems quite appropriate to me. Tildes before a letter only invert that letter, though; to do the entire word it must be at the end.
I can't accept the claim that 100% is very efficient when it's only 1/3 to 1/4 as efficient as alternatives, especially alternatives that use the same form of energy input (i.e. electricity).
Interesting. Similar lawsuits happened in the U.S. (not necessarily a common-law country, depends on what law we're written since the split) because of hurricane Katrina.
People's homes would have water damage, but the insurance companies wouldn't pay because the people didn't have flood insurance. However, many of these people's homes didn't flood; the water got in because the roof had been torn off (or just windows had been broken) by the hurricane. And the people's insurance did cover wind damage.
In other words, flooding (uninsured loss) was directly caused by wind (insured loss), so does insurance pay? After lawsuits, the answer here was yes.
And you use your PC immediately upon arrival? Don't you have voice mail to check first? A lunch to stow in the fridge?
As someone else pointed out, your IT department could set all machines to Wake on Lan an hour before the day starts, run virus checks, apply patches, etc., and have the machine hot and ready to run the minute you arrive. Then they can force them all into sleep again at night just after everyone has left. (Or detect the machine is still in use and not force it to sleep.)
A simple home-use system to do the above (i.e. a box that itself consumes very little power, but can programmatically connect/disconnect power to slaved power strips, and issue Wake/Sleep on Lan commands, would be a good invention.
My Macs (Mini and MacBook Pro) sleep beautifully. Strangely enough, my old Dell laptop running Windows XP hibernates beautifully. It's the only machine I've ever owned or even heard of that could hibernate and return without messing up, and as far as I know the only machine set to hibernate anywhere on the planet.
I can't get my home Linux server to even sleep correctly.
None of that justifies heating with electrical resistive elements. There are two flaws to your argument:
1. You mix using gas with whole-house heating.
These shouldn't be mixed. You can have a whole-house gas furnace, or you can have gas units (or a gas fireplace) in critical rooms. Likewise, you can have a whole-house electrical system, or one per room. Or, you could have electronically-controlled baffles for your air distribution, which cost relatively little but allow you to direct airflow to only specific rooms at specific times of day.
2. You are advocating resistive heating as efficient.
Resistive heating can be 100% efficient: every watt you purchase becomes a watt of heat in your room (until it leaks out the window).
But that's not efficient for heating. A heat pump uses the watt of energy you purchased to perform work, moving heat contained in the colder, outdoor air to the warmer, indoor air of your house. The net effect is that each watt you purchase can translate to 3-4 watts of heat in your room. While clearly not accurate syntax, a head-to-head comparison would call such a heat pump 300 to 400 percent efficient, significantly better than the mere 100% your resistive heater generates.
Then you can use electronic baffle control to direct the heat just to bedrooms at night, and result in an overall system that is quite efficient and doesn't rely on one particular fossil fuel to function.
disclaimers
My house heats with natural gas, and we have an electric heat pad on our bed for cold nights. In other words, we do exactly the things I advocate against. That doesn't make them right, it just makes my actions wrong.
Unless your street is made of 6-foot-thick stainless steel, it must be maintained. Who pays for that maintenance?
So far, no one, since in eight years it hasn't received any maintenance at all. In the mean time, I've been paying property taxes that contribute to maintenance of other streets in my city. When the time comes, my street will receive a portion of taxes as well, though most likely I'll never get back as much on my street as I've paid. (I do, of course, use other streets in my city, including ones that have had recent improvement.)
A minute ago it was too costly to invest in these projects. Now it's so cheap that a dozen different companies can afford to lay competing services. Which is it?
What? Again, you speak nonsense. What should be free market or regulated has nothing to do with the cost in this case. It has to do with the rights of the residents to band together to protect their property from disruption while gaining the maximum effect of competition on services.
Obviously privatization is the right answer as it is the only means that avoid individual rights violations.
Except, of course, for the rights of the residents to minimize the disruptions to their neighborhood, which you clearly care nothing for.
They have a flow-chart programming interface that I had great success introducing programming to my 11-13 year old cousins
For the record, it's a version of NI LabVIEW, and it's a good precursor for those students who may end up in the F.I.R.S.T. robotics competition or in a job in research or engineering.
Exactly. It's not like there's a chance that you could have person A take a serious picture, then toss down a smoke bomb and have person B slip in get the smiley picture.
You can level to 80 and also hit exalted with every reputation in the game without ever doing a daily quest.
Technically, I don't think this is true. You cannot reach exalted with the Tuskar faction without running their dailies. I don't think the tabard grind works for them. On the other hand, it only takes 7-9 total days to reach exalted after doing all the other quests.
Your street was paid for with money taken from people on the other side of town who will never drive down your street.
Actually my street was paid for by the private developers of my neighborhood, who passed the cost on to the lot buyers, who passed it on to me and the other residents. Then they donated the street to the city.
The rest of your reply is just babble. Do you want private enterprise laying competing road networks to my house, too? What about 7, 8, 12 different water mains being pulled in? I'm sure no one would mind their flower beds being torn up for the 5th sewer system.
Mediums work better if developed as a shared resource. Services work better in a free market, relying on those shared mediums. If you don't see that, I don't think I can say anything to convince you; I'll just be happy that you're the minority and I'm not.
The Grizzly Hills music is fantastic. Every time I pass through, I start thinking I'm flying around in a Ken Burns Civil War documentary...
I haven't managed to spend more than 1hr in WoTLK
Unfortunately this is obvious from your review.
- That flying mount you saved up for (worse, if you bought an epic) - can't use it until 77 or so. Bad call.
It actually helps when exploring the initial content. The world seems so much bigger at first. Note: quests hubs not only send you on to the next when you're done, but they give you a free flight! Note: I gained access to my flying mount after completing three zones. Not bad, really.
add flight combat based on class! That would also keep people from short circuiting quests, and be awesome.
Good idea for the per-class thing, but they DID add flying combat - lots of it! Many, many quests allow for flying combat, including some dailies. (Hence, my first suspicion that your one hour is inadequate to give the expansion a review.)
- Not a mage? Can't get to Dalaran until 74 (or so, I haven't done it yet). That's right, a major feature cut out for you while you grind. This really serves just to highlight the grind, not remove it.
My paladin got to Dalaran at 71. My wife's shaman bound there at 56. This limitation is non-existent thanks to two (or four) transportation methods:
1. Mage can port you there at any level.
2. Warlock can summon you there at any level.
(3. Anyone of similar level can queue you for a battleground from there; when you leave the battleground you'll be there.)
(4. If you die on another continent, you can travel there and spirit rez in town.)
There is no one who wants to be in Dalaran of any level who isn't there yet, if they've put in effort into it at all.
- More dailies...ugh
But much more variety in the dailies. What do you expect? Would you prefer the game before there were dailies? You don't have to do them. For several factions, they've included both dailies and the ability to grind faction in dungeons. Even better, you pick the faction you want to grind (by wearing the appropriate tabard), so you can do a different dungeon every day and grind the same faction, or just run your favorite dungeon and grind all the factions out.
...tailoring...
I don't have it; I don't use it; I can't comment. =p
Pretty much the minute logged in I was beat with the old problems that caused my entire guild to quit: "Heroic Nexus LF2M, need tank and 1dps (at least 1300DPS!)".
To be fair, as a pure tank I put out more than 1300 DPS. That's a pretty small number. There's no way any competent DPS player should be in a heroic instance with stats that low.
people unwilling to enter a dungeon that they don't outgear
There are also people who try to enter dungeons they undergear and expect to be carried through. There is supposed to be a minimum needed to run some places; otherwise people would just skip the intermediate steps and run the final instance, then call the whole expansion done.
you are at the mercy of trying to get 5 adults across 4 timezones, with wives and kids, to block out 1,2,3 hours to do a dungeon.
They've reduced the complexity, and greatly increased the variety, of the dungeons. The longest I've run is 45 minutes. Blizzard's goal is one hour.
Nothing in WoTLK addresses the elitist mentality the game has been designed for. The belief that only the hardcore deserve to be included in higher end dungeons and raids.
Except you can run the same raid zones in either 10- or 25-man versions, so you in your small guild can see all of the expansion content. (The 25-man gear is slightly better, yeah, but what do you expect? Do you think Blizzard wants all those 25-man players to get bored and leave?)
It was totally devoured in TBC w
I have a better plan. If a company comes along and wants to lay parallel lines. Let them. Don't stop them in any way. Don't fine them. Remove all possible hindrances, anything that could turn them away. It'll start out small and slowly expand at the same time that the demand for cheaper service drives prices down. More and more people will have better and better service.
Sorry bud. The first time they tear up my street, I'll live with it. The second time, I'll bitch. The third time, I'll have my city passing a law banning parallel lines when there's existing fiber, and pushing for city maintenance of a common resource.
Some things just don't work when left to the free market. Now maybe my city doesn't need to do it; I'd be fine if my neighborhood association paid for the common fiber instead.
So the public would be taxed to pay for the city to lay the fiber, and then the increased tax on ISPs would be passed on to the same public to pay for service? This is your plan?
You think this would be more expensive than it is now? I pay for the cost for AT&T to lay the lines. Then I pay every month in increased costs because they have a monopoly. (Cable company here sucks; no HD yet and internet was lossy.) I'd love my city to lay fiber, then let ISPs compete to provide service over the common wire.
That's litte different than my electricity service, where the lines are owned by a regulated monopoly, but the suppliers compete on the free market.