What is your point? Businesses and people buy things for more than available cash all the time (i.e. a mortgage). The point here is that they aren't even financing anything like a mortgage. They are giving stock.
Why is that sad? Why is this "absolute insanity" Are you just railing against Microsoft? They aren't involved here? Also, why mod to Interesting??????
As for "In other words, if the price was lower, Microsoft could buy Disney without change ANYTHING in their business" - where does that come from. Having available cash like that does impact their business. It allows them to quickly move when an opportunity presents itself without worrying about financing. That is a huge business advantage versus every other company out there.
Well, from the articles linked it states that Comcast should have $20 bil rev and Disney $29 bil for 04. Comcast's assets are $109 bil as of dec 03 and disney $50 bil as of sep 03.
Comcast does not have 66 billion to spend on this deal. They are issuing stock in exchange for Disney shares. It is not like you or me going to buy a car and plunking down cash. This is quite a different animal.
O's post above contains a Yahoo link. That link shows you the # of shares Gates owns as of this month. Derive the total number of shares outstanding from the table lower in the page (e.g. Fidelity's shares / % of shares outstanding). then divide Gates shares by this total outstanding. It ends up about 10.5%. Now this doesn't take into account options of course.
Long hours my ass. I work in accounting and my wife and her brother in law both work in schools. The summer months are cake, long holidays, snow days and home by frickin 4pm. Oh, don't forget the union which regulates minimum smoke breaks. I work regularily 55+ hours every week, weekends, holidays and evenings (a few times I have reached 100+ hours in a week). Many teachers pull off part time jobs in the summer since they have so much time.
Actually economic crises start when countries not companies get into tariff wars. Companies don't inact or enforce tariffs, countries do. History shows us that protectionism of domestic industries gives those industries a short term prop but damns them in the long term.
Good luck to anyone who thinks China will decrease tariffs on US goods. If you think that will happen I have a bridge to sell ya
Try less than 33% so that means pretty much the same as the amount of taxes. Sorry to cite facts but check out the IRS data for 2000 (The latest year the info is available).
Well, lets refer to the article since many of you haven't. The quote is "Amnesty believes Microsoft is in violation of a new United Nations Human Rights code for multinationals which says businesses should 'seek to ensure that the goods and services they provide will not be used to abuse human rights'."
Let's break that down kiddies: (1) No software or service listed or any mention of what specifically they are accusing MS of. (2) a new UN code? Gee like anyone pays attention to the UN anymore. They are more impotent than Jimmy Carter and Al Sharpton. (3) Businesses should seek to ensure- someone pls help me with that. That phrase means squat and is impossible to enforce. Its only pupose is to allow outrageous attention grabbing headlines like this article. (4) AI will quickly become irrelevant to the mainstream (if it hasn't aalready) if it keeps this crap up. Hail to the Birkenstock/Phish/PETA crowd
Gasp!!! IP Theft??? ground yourself in reality man! (1) many corporations win and lose cases regarding IP. Its called patent infringement and it happens to a majority of companies out there. (2) So lets forget the gift and demonize Gates b/c you somehow know that he only did it for the tax break and that gift somehow directly impacts you negatively. Have you ever given to charity? I guess you haven't because that would mean you are only it it for the tax break. How about a fact to help us out: The top 1% of income earners (that includes Gates) pay almost 30% of the income tax in this country. I would say he pays more than his fair share even with such "selfish" acts.
Try to step back from your hatred of Gates, it clouds your thinking dramatically.
Sure brand this as a troll, but some people need to think before they write.
What is truly entertaining is that all of the linux drones get a burr up their ass every time someone (with or without an agenda) says anything but linux is the greatest thing ever. Learn to roll with the punches people. This "study" was for advertising. Reading anything else into is an overreaction.
(1) The junk about half of all marriages ending in divorce is a prime example of misapplication of statistics. The half of all marriages crap is the result of some utter moron quoting a census report for ONE year that had twice as many marriages as divorces. That lead that utter moron to state that half of all marriages end in divorce. It doesn't work that way. The 50% argument ignores all previous marriages. How could anyone miss such an obvious oversight? Because the misrepresentation fits THEIR AGENDA. Now the idiots in the press, politicians, etc continue the myth IF it fits their agenda. Census data shows that 20% of men in the US were ever divorced. For women this number is 22%. Looking at these tables I calculate that roughly 30% of male marriages end in divorce and 22% for women. (see page 7 of http://www.census.gov/prod/2002pubs/p70-80.pdf) for my source. This table also shows that that almost 80% of US males and 76% of US females are not divorced. More recent Harris polls show that only 1 in 8 marriages end in divorce. Still too high in my opinion but not that garbage that people continue to quote.
(2) The unmarried birth rate rose dramatically from the 1940s to the early 90s where it has stabilized and decreased. The rate is 44% currently (see http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/statab/t991x18.pdf). While I thought that would be less, it is not necessarily of product of myth #1. Many women are choosing to stay unmarried as a result of their ability to earn sufficient income to support a single family household, the flexibility offered such individuals by employers and the ability to telecommute.
(3) I agree with your point but it really says nothing.
And you know that some pissant staffer told him to mention it or maybe it was his speech writer. Doesn't matter. The point is these guys (national politicians regardless of party) don't know specifics or details, they only care about sound bites and themes, sad really, and they make the policies which impact specifics. This lack of knowledge of specifics are what screws up national imperitives. But hell it makes for a good 20seconds at 6pm doesn't it?
I would hope that minerals on Mars and Earth do NOT exhibit different properties. I WOULD expect different proportions or structures based on the different environments.
Since you state it like an obvious fact, please enlighten me: how do you know that time is part of creation?
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Don't count Europe as a super power yet. With all of the infighting and France's "do as I say not as I do attitude", the EU just may break apart quite quickly. As long as the special interests hold sway over fiscal and economic policy the EU and all the benefits of a super political/economic power will evaporate
Why would any system that forces a company to employ domestic workers be better? I strongly disagree with your point. Once you force someone to overspend (read that as pay domestic workers when cheaper equivilent labor can be found elsewhere) then every consumer of the product loses as the product costs more and the stockholders lose on their investment because the stock sucks. Protecting domestic workers in this manner is the lazy way out. You protect a few thousand workers at the expense of the millions of customers and the shareholders. It just turns into another form of taxation.
Your example assumes nothing changes which is incorrect. Part of what has made the United States so strong in the industrial age is that it has consistently been the first/best with a market changing technology. This is because for the most part, innovation in the US is without peer worldwide. A great number of industries were started here and then as costs increased to do the work here, it was moved overseas and other countries benefited. Please see textiles, steel, autos, computers as examples. Now if America does not come up with the next greatest thing then a problem does exist but I wouldn't bet against it.
Yes I have a problem with that. What is the intent of the minimum wage: to establish a baseline wage for a full time worker to live in this country. That baseline should not include any luxuries. You have to agree that the cost of living in these countries to which services are being outsourced to have dramatically lower costs of living. Your solution of paying them a US minimum wage for someone living outside of the US is extreme overpayment and inefficient.
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What is your point? Businesses and people buy things for more than available cash all the time (i.e. a mortgage). The point here is that they aren't even financing anything like a mortgage. They are giving stock.
The disney name won't be changed. Its brand recognition throughout the world makes it too valuable to alter. Even Comcast won't mess with that.
Why is that sad? Why is this "absolute insanity" Are you just railing against Microsoft? They aren't involved here? Also, why mod to Interesting??????
As for "In other words, if the price was lower, Microsoft could buy Disney without change ANYTHING in their business" - where does that come from. Having available cash like that does impact their business. It allows them to quickly move when an opportunity presents itself without worrying about financing. That is a huge business advantage versus every other company out there.
Well, from the articles linked it states that Comcast should have $20 bil rev and Disney $29 bil for 04. Comcast's assets are $109 bil as of dec 03 and disney $50 bil as of sep 03.
Comcast does not have 66 billion to spend on this deal. They are issuing stock in exchange for Disney shares. It is not like you or me going to buy a car and plunking down cash. This is quite a different animal.
O's post above contains a Yahoo link. That link shows you the # of shares Gates owns as of this month. Derive the total number of shares outstanding from the table lower in the page (e.g. Fidelity's shares / % of shares outstanding). then divide Gates shares by this total outstanding. It ends up about 10.5%. Now this doesn't take into account options of course.
lighten up jerk off
Because it is like crack, they can't stop once they've started.
Long hours my ass. I work in accounting and my wife and her brother in law both work in schools. The summer months are cake, long holidays, snow days and home by frickin 4pm. Oh, don't forget the union which regulates minimum smoke breaks. I work regularily 55+ hours every week, weekends, holidays and evenings (a few times I have reached 100+ hours in a week). Many teachers pull off part time jobs in the summer since they have so much time.
Actually economic crises start when countries not companies get into tariff wars. Companies don't inact or enforce tariffs, countries do. History shows us that protectionism of domestic industries gives those industries a short term prop but damns them in the long term.
Good luck to anyone who thinks China will decrease tariffs on US goods. If you think that will happen I have a bridge to sell ya
Let's be honest, Diablo & Dungeon Siege aren't really RPGs. They basically a hybrid shooter.
Ummmm, no.
Try less than 33% so that means pretty much the same as the amount of taxes. Sorry to cite facts but check out the IRS data for 2000 (The latest year the info is available).
Well, lets refer to the article since many of you haven't. The quote is "Amnesty believes Microsoft is in violation of a new United Nations Human Rights code for multinationals which says businesses should 'seek to ensure that the goods and services they provide will not be used to abuse human rights'."
Let's break that down kiddies:
(1) No software or service listed or any mention of what specifically they are accusing MS of.
(2) a new UN code? Gee like anyone pays attention to the UN anymore. They are more impotent than Jimmy Carter and Al Sharpton.
(3) Businesses should seek to ensure- someone pls help me with that. That phrase means squat and is impossible to enforce. Its only pupose is to allow outrageous attention grabbing headlines like this article.
(4) AI will quickly become irrelevant to the mainstream (if it hasn't aalready) if it keeps this crap up. Hail to the Birkenstock/Phish/PETA crowd
Gasp!!! IP Theft??? ground yourself in reality man!
(1) many corporations win and lose cases regarding IP. Its called patent infringement and it happens to a majority of companies out there.
(2) So lets forget the gift and demonize Gates b/c you somehow know that he only did it for the tax break and that gift somehow directly impacts you negatively. Have you ever given to charity? I guess you haven't because that would mean you are only it it for the tax break. How about a fact to help us out: The top 1% of income earners (that includes Gates) pay almost 30% of the income tax in this country. I would say he pays more than his fair share even with such "selfish" acts.
Try to step back from your hatred of Gates, it clouds your thinking dramatically.
Sure brand this as a troll, but some people need to think before they write.
What is truly entertaining is that all of the linux drones get a burr up their ass every time someone (with or without an agenda) says anything but linux is the greatest thing ever. Learn to roll with the punches people. This "study" was for advertising. Reading anything else into is an overreaction.
Sorry, 2 of those just aren't facts.
(1) The junk about half of all marriages ending in divorce is a prime example of misapplication of statistics. The half of all marriages crap is the result of some utter moron quoting a census report for ONE year that had twice as many marriages as divorces. That lead that utter moron to state that half of all marriages end in divorce. It doesn't work that way. The 50% argument ignores all previous marriages. How could anyone miss such an obvious oversight? Because the misrepresentation fits THEIR AGENDA. Now the idiots in the press, politicians, etc continue the myth IF it fits their agenda. Census data shows that 20% of men in the US were ever divorced. For women this number is 22%. Looking at these tables I calculate that roughly 30% of male marriages end in divorce and 22% for women. (see page 7 of http://www.census.gov/prod/2002pubs/p70-80.pdf) for my source. This table also shows that that almost 80% of US males and 76% of US females are not divorced. More recent Harris polls show that only 1 in 8 marriages end in divorce. Still too high in my opinion but not that garbage that people continue to quote.
(2) The unmarried birth rate rose dramatically from the 1940s to the early 90s where it has stabilized and decreased. The rate is 44% currently (see http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/statab/t991x18.pdf). While I thought that would be less, it is not necessarily of product of myth #1. Many women are choosing to stay unmarried as a result of their ability to earn sufficient income to support a single family household, the flexibility offered such individuals by employers and the ability to telecommute.
(3) I agree with your point but it really says nothing.
I don't mean to disappoint you but they will all do the same thing based on their audience.
And you know that some pissant staffer told him to mention it or maybe it was his speech writer. Doesn't matter. The point is these guys (national politicians regardless of party) don't know specifics or details, they only care about sound bites and themes, sad really, and they make the policies which impact specifics. This lack of knowledge of specifics are what screws up national imperitives. But hell it makes for a good 20seconds at 6pm doesn't it?
I would hope that minerals on Mars and Earth do NOT exhibit different properties. I WOULD expect different proportions or structures based on the different environments.
Since you state it like an obvious fact, please enlighten me: how do you know that time is part of creation?
Don't count Europe as a super power yet. With all of the infighting and France's "do as I say not as I do attitude", the EU just may break apart quite quickly. As long as the special interests hold sway over fiscal and economic policy the EU and all the benefits of a super political/economic power will evaporate
You can also get starwars replica armor at: http://fractalcow.com/propsdealr/main.htm
Why would any system that forces a company to employ domestic workers be better? I strongly disagree with your point. Once you force someone to overspend (read that as pay domestic workers when cheaper equivilent labor can be found elsewhere) then every consumer of the product loses as the product costs more and the stockholders lose on their investment because the stock sucks. Protecting domestic workers in this manner is the lazy way out. You protect a few thousand workers at the expense of the millions of customers and the shareholders. It just turns into another form of taxation.
Your example assumes nothing changes which is incorrect. Part of what has made the United States so strong in the industrial age is that it has consistently been the first/best with a market changing technology. This is because for the most part, innovation in the US is without peer worldwide. A great number of industries were started here and then as costs increased to do the work here, it was moved overseas and other countries benefited. Please see textiles, steel, autos, computers as examples. Now if America does not come up with the next greatest thing then a problem does exist but I wouldn't bet against it.
Yes I have a problem with that. What is the intent of the minimum wage: to establish a baseline wage for a full time worker to live in this country. That baseline should not include any luxuries. You have to agree that the cost of living in these countries to which services are being outsourced to have dramatically lower costs of living. Your solution of paying them a US minimum wage for someone living outside of the US is extreme overpayment and inefficient.