Read the linked article. The guy's already stated that this was one way windows uusers could join crackmonkey without losing windows.
The rest of you AC's...thye guy condescends to post here on the topic (which he did not submit), and you respond with flames and insults. Nice way to "grow the community."
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When did we become such elitists? When users are arbitrarily excluded and abused in the name of "free software," I begin to think that pehaps these same people now toting the supremacy of their operating system might in another time promote the supremacy of their language, nationality, or race.
First of all, there's nothing "arbitrary": about it, the exclusion is very specific. In addition, those who are excluded are "self-selected" -- it is their choice to be in the excluded group.
I am a Windows user, almost exclusively (I also have a doorstop...er, uh, I mean an out-of-date Mac). I can well imagine reasons why the "crackmonkey" list may wish to have discussions without my participation, or that of any Windows user and that is their right! This has nothing at all to do with racism, discrimination, hate-crime or anything other than the selection criteria of a special-purpose mailing list. You are being hysterical ("insightful") about this.
Not only did he scam most news agencies, he drinks Guinness.
But did he scam Reuters? Their website shows no trace of this story, in any category, even "Oddly Enough" -- which is where I would expect a story like this. Searching for the credited author Kevin Smith reveals about a dozen stories filed from Ireland, but not this one. Nor is there any indication of a correction or retraction to a filed story.
So the question becomes, did Reuters even issue this story, or did someone hack the wire?
This may be redundant, I suspect the information I am about to post is already posted further on down the thread. However, there's so much misinformation in these first few posts, readers may appreciate getting it straight here.
The service the article describes appears to be the identical document-search business that Northern Light has been providing for quit awhile, on essentially the same business model. It was recently announced that Northern Light was leaving this business, and quite a few/. users expressed disappointent to see them go. All this news means is that this resource won't be lost. The standard Yahoo resources will still be available as well, without charge.
Again, I carry no case for either. But how many have moved from Savannah to Sourceforge, hmmm?
Nobody said SourceForge was dead, I just think it's silly to throw numbers back and forth like it proves something, and here you go with another number, just as meaningless.
Iwould be more confused if Linux showed up in the post office, because what Linux provider is cash-rich enough to afford ads for the OS, and among these, who thinks that a Linux market could be found at the PO?
But the PO does sell ads, see? And it's probably to recoup income lost because you gave up snailmail several years ago, so you should only blame yourself.
Define "real." I would hesitate a long while before hiring a lawyer who would use a construction like "Just like the Industrial revolution, these companies..." Unless maybe if I needed an immigration lawyer.
I apologize for the moderator who called this post flamebait. No one is going to flame you here. Cmdr Taco Loves You And Only Wants You To Be Happy. Happiness Is Being On Topic. The Topics Are Determined By The Editors. Are you beginning to understand?
Your ideas intrigue me, and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter. Will this allow me to commit crimes with impunity? Specifically, I am interested in victimless crimes, preferably with the participation of minors.
Oh a numbers game, eh? How many of these 32,738 projects have gotten to alpha? And what is the median age of these projects? How many see any activity at all?
I carry no case for either, but this "raw numbers got you beat" baby shit is got ta go.
You buy your company at $1.00 but your employer says you can't sell for two years and it goes to $100 you borrow money on your portfolio the stock descends to $0.50 and your wealth has evaporated. You are poorer, the people you borrowed from are poorer your employer is poorer and fires you. Everybody is Poorer and sad.
Sticking your head in the sand does not prevent these yabboes from broadcasting their opinions-cloaked-as-news as if they mean something. One of the points of moderation is to give fair warning to the easily gulled.
Of course I understand. In my post I stated quite clearly that the moderation system is the way it is to produce a desired effect, i.e., goatse and politically unpopular posts treated the same for a reason, not by chance.
Would've replied sooner, but was IP-banned...
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While online polls in general are not to be trusted, and even a poll that prevents stuffing by reuiring login reflects a self-selecting sample, the fact that/. had such a poll is a nod toward democracy that lacks any follow-through. If the results were anti-moderation, obviously some further investigation and discussion is called for.
Whenever a new version of Slashcode is made available, there are lots of suggestions for ways to improve moderation options, but I don't recall ever seeing any substantive discussion of the topic with participation of the real powers behind/.
In short, the poll does not have to be accurate to be significant. What it signifies is subject to interpretation.
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Jeezus, if I wanted to read somebody's "Blog," I would shoot myself first, or throw myself on top of a dangerous silicon explosion.
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He compared moderators (who express their opinion) to Nazis (who killed people by the millions). That's either trolling, or so dumb as to be indistinguishable.
He never said "Nazis." The fact of the matter is that dissenters in matters of techno-politics often do get modded down (or up, some moderators are also techno-political dissenters) for the political content of their posts, without regard to the post's logic, originality, innate interest or quality of thought. The parallel he saw to oppressive government (not Nazis) does not invoke Godwin's law -- particularly since his post was the initiation of the thread.
Besides, with all regards to Godwin. his "law" is full of shit -- it is too often invoked by Nazis who don't wish their nazism discussed.
That's not abuse, it's brown-nosing. The mod system is the way it is in order to promote cetain results, and most of his advice concerns how to give/.'s editors what they want.
To take up another user's rallying cry, I agree that negative moderation should go. Moderation should be done in half-points, with no one person able to change the mod-level of a post (no one persion should be able to make anther person's post disappear). There should be a larger scale, from 0 to, say, 8 -- or even 10 -- so political dissenters won't be so likely to dwell with goat.se trollers.
The Stinger OS? Aside from (the obscure) Sendo, only Mitsubishi and Samsung have committed to the platform, and if more don't come on board I question how firm that commitment is.
Stinger's advanced features are likely to be useless to those who aren't running Windows as their primary desktop platform. Nokia, Motorola and Ericsson are behind Epoc, the competing wireless platform in development, which should be as powerful, and not desktop-platform-dependent.
Of course, at high data rates, all of these run a high risk of causing a dangerous silicon explosion in your pocket.
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The rest of you AC's...thye guy condescends to post here on the topic (which he did not submit), and you respond with flames and insults. Nice way to "grow the community."
First of all, there's nothing "arbitrary": about it, the exclusion is very specific. In addition, those who are excluded are "self-selected" -- it is their choice to be in the excluded group.
I am a Windows user, almost exclusively (I also have a doorstop...er, uh, I mean an out-of-date Mac). I can well imagine reasons why the "crackmonkey" list may wish to have discussions without my participation, or that of any Windows user and that is their right! This has nothing at all to do with racism, discrimination, hate-crime or anything other than the selection criteria of a special-purpose mailing list. You are being hysterical ("insightful") about this.
This simple, efficient, evocative comment?
This Chaplinesque expression of mourning for the passing of a beloved gameco?
A troll?
But did he scam Reuters? Their website shows no trace of this story, in any category, even "Oddly Enough" -- which is where I would expect a story like this. Searching for the credited author Kevin Smith reveals about a dozen stories filed from Ireland, but not this one. Nor is there any indication of a correction or retraction to a filed story.
So the question becomes, did Reuters even issue this story, or did someone hack the wire?
The service the article describes appears to be the identical document-search business that Northern Light has been providing for quit awhile, on essentially the same business model. It was recently announced that Northern Light was leaving this business, and quite a few /. users expressed disappointent to see them go. All this news means is that this resource won't be lost. The standard Yahoo resources will still be available as well, without charge.
Nobody said SourceForge was dead, I just think it's silly to throw numbers back and forth like it proves something, and here you go with another number, just as meaningless.
But the PO does sell ads, see? And it's probably to recoup income lost because you gave up snailmail several years ago, so you should only blame yourself.
There, there.
Oh, yeh, wait a minute...
You mean like, when you said "Great article, John!" Apparently at least one moderator thought so.
Moderators are getting really twisted to call that "flamebait." Maybe that is meant to say that anybody who likes Katz's spillings must be trolling?
Oh a numbers game, eh? How many of these 32,738 projects have gotten to alpha? And what is the median age of these projects? How many see any activity at all?
I carry no case for either, but this "raw numbers got you beat" baby shit is got ta go.
Amazon now says the recommendation feature isn't really theirs. Actually, the way they buckled under to another patent claim on the obvious application of existing technology is more significant news than just one more instance of their "creative accounting."
Would've replied sooner, but was IP-banned...
Whenever a new version of Slashcode is made available, there are lots of suggestions for ways to improve moderation options, but I don't recall ever seeing any substantive discussion of the topic with participation of the real powers behind /.
In short, the poll does not have to be accurate to be significant. What it signifies is subject to interpretation.
He never said "Nazis." The fact of the matter is that dissenters in matters of techno-politics often do get modded down (or up, some moderators are also techno-political dissenters) for the political content of their posts, without regard to the post's logic, originality, innate interest or quality of thought. The parallel he saw to oppressive government (not Nazis) does not invoke Godwin's law -- particularly since his post was the initiation of the thread.
Besides, with all regards to Godwin. his "law" is full of shit -- it is too often invoked by Nazis who don't wish their nazism discussed.
To take up another user's rallying cry, I agree that negative moderation should go. Moderation should be done in half-points, with no one person able to change the mod-level of a post (no one persion should be able to make anther person's post disappear). There should be a larger scale, from 0 to, say, 8 -- or even 10 -- so political dissenters won't be so likely to dwell with goat.se trollers.
Stinger's advanced features are likely to be useless to those who aren't running Windows as their primary desktop platform. Nokia, Motorola and Ericsson are behind Epoc, the competing wireless platform in development, which should be as powerful, and not desktop-platform-dependent.
Of course, at high data rates, all of these run a high risk of causing a dangerous silicon explosion in your pocket.