So far, everyone I've ever met that likes Slackware has been someone who just had one box, that they tinker with at home.
Redhat is good for lots of things. Stop dwelling on a 1994 version of RH. Good about RPMs? They're signed. No, not just md5'd, actually gpg signed. And the dependancy hell I've heard about? Never noticed it. Another good thing - you can do an rpm -Va and it will tell you which files have changed on your system from the ones that were installed. Time, md5, mode, size, etc.
People who knock Redhat tend to just be people that are either so l33t with their 1 box, or people that only tried it last about 8 years ago - can you say FUD?
Not regarding the first post in this thread, but I've recently tried Gentoo, and I quite like it so far.
So far, I've been a Redhat man. It's served me well so far. I did try Debian, and I tried to like it, but it just didn't turn me on. I've tried Gentoo over this weekend, and while I wouldn't install it on any servers at work (yet), it's a pretty slick little distro.
I used to get annoyed at all the kiddies proclaiming Gentoo, Gentoo, but since I've tried it, I like it. You start to realise how long a glibc, XFree86, kde , and mozilla compile takes though. For those of you who haven't tried it - it makes a kernel compile look like a walk in the park. I started it on Friday evening, and it's now Sunday afternoon. It's been running flat out all this time. And that's a P4 2GHz with 1Gb RAM.
I haven't found out how to list installed packages yet though;)
PS. Mod me down, I don't care. Karma to burn, baby.
Some companies aren't scared of it.
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Preset IP's are usually only given to routers and servers.
Bingo. So you assign nice easy::1,::2::3 addresses to all the important stuff, and you let auto config take care of all the clients, and workstations that you don't care about.
And there's Dynamic DNS too, if you want to be able to track your workstations by names.
"In France, the 14th of July is a National Holiday. It is known as Bastille Day and celebrates the storming of the Bastille , a French prison, in 1789. This was the start of the French Revolution."
Wonder if this has any relevance? Maybe it's a signal, a secret message..:)
I have 65536 * 2^64 addresses. But you're not grasping how amazingly small that many addresses is.
Ignore the hosts part - it's pretty much fixed as a/64.
The smallest subnet in IPv6 is/64 - that's a total of 2^64 subnets of 2^64 addresses.
My 65536 subnets out of 2^64 is nothing. Yet it's more than I'll ever need for my lab.
It's hierarchical. Someone owns "all" the IP addresses. Big ISP 1 asks for a chunk of space, and gets, oh, I don't know, a/30. ISP 2 gets a/36. Company 3 (me:O) ) gets a/48, which is 65536 subnets, each of 2^64 addresses, which is more than enough for me.
Hierarchical is good, as it means that the world doesn't need to know about routes for each company. It just says: Oh, that address is in the range belonging to Big ISP 1, so I'll pass it on. Big ISP 1 knows that it belongs to ISP 2, and ISP 2 passes it on to Company 3.
NAT is the spawn of SATAN. Really it is. Get two hosts behind NAT, and they are unable to establish connections between themselves. It's truely horrible. At the moment, I am using a tunnel broker to give my lab IPv6 connectivity ( tunnelled over IPv4, but you wouldn't know it.)
Because my workstation is behind NAT on IPv4, I have to either VPN in, or SSH to the firewall, and then onto my workstation. With IPv6 however, because I can address my workstation directly, and because I've allowed SSH to it, I can ssh right in through the firewall. It's just better. Abolish NAT.
Oh yeah, you can download IPv6 functionality for it. And then you can ping IPv6 hosts, and maybe, if you're lucky, you're using the right version of IE that supports IPv6 on 2000. W00t. I think everyone is referring to the full suite of tools. FTP, telnet, SSH (putty), IE, OE, everything. It's pretty pointless to have an IPv6 stack if none of your apps can use it.
Disclaimer: I use Linux, and it all works flawlessly, so I couldn't care less about people stuck on Windows;)
From ifconfig:
inet6 addr: fe80::240:93fa:fe43:6f50/64 Scope:Link
And you're right - DNS will become more invaluable.
Although you only have to remember your subnet - eg 2001:618:15, and the address you use on that subnet, which is usually something like::1, or::2, etc.
Will this be what pushes at least U.S. based companies and providers to actually convert over?"
Why would it be? I assume most US based companies and providers don't have many connections to the DOD network:)
When a: there is a decent amount of IPv6 only content, and b: when the most widely used OS in the world ships with it enabled by default, (ipv6 install doesn't count here) then it might start taking hold. But it's a chicken and egg situation at the moment. That autopr0n guy should switch his site to IPv6 only, and force his viewers to start using IPv6 (or IPv6-over-IPv4);)
Sign yourself up to an IPv6 tunnelbroker today, and get your own n * 2^64 addresses to play with.
So that company called Microsoft doesn't improve the wealth of the nation? Wow. And I thought that flood of money coming in from around the world might seep into the US economy some how.
You're going to tell me that Microsoft keeps all its money in Swiss bank accounts now too, and only employees people from China.
It's not about authentication.
SSH to selinux.dev.gentoo.org as root, with the password of gentoo.
Now try and do anything nasty. You (hopefully) can't. You're already root. But there is an extra set of patches that limit the power that root has, which effectively means that even if your box gets rooted, the attacker can't do anything, replace system binaries, etc. Which is shown in this box by allowing everyone to log in as root.
[x] I strongly agree with that statement
[ ] I agree with that statement
[ ] I neither agree nor disagree with that statement
[ ] I disagree with that statement
[ ] I strongly disagree with that statement
[ ] I would like to kill whoever made that statement
[ ] This statement is not relative
This isn't a vote here - imagine if all the comments to this story were one of the above choice - it'd be pretty dull, wouldn't it.
Disclaimer: I've never used Gentoo, and I don't personally know anyone who does.
I bet you dollars to doughnuts every "f1r5t p0s7" troll is some god damn hippy prepubescent script kiddie with his limp dick in one hand and a Gentoo CD in the other. Until Gentoo can learn to FUCKING GROW UP they will not get any respect from the Linux community.
You can't blame "Gentoo" for the actions of their users - that seems a little unfair.
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Trouble is, I'm at home, and this 2GHz/1GB machine is the fastest here - the next closest is a 333MHz/256MB :o((
Redhat is good for lots of things. Stop dwelling on a 1994 version of RH. Good about RPMs? They're signed. No, not just md5'd, actually gpg signed. And the dependancy hell I've heard about? Never noticed it. Another good thing - you can do an rpm -Va and it will tell you which files have changed on your system from the ones that were installed. Time, md5, mode, size, etc.
People who knock Redhat tend to just be people that are either so l33t with their 1 box, or people that only tried it last about 8 years ago - can you say FUD?
So far, I've been a Redhat man. It's served me well so far. I did try Debian, and I tried to like it, but it just didn't turn me on. I've tried Gentoo over this weekend, and while I wouldn't install it on any servers at work (yet), it's a pretty slick little distro.
I used to get annoyed at all the kiddies proclaiming Gentoo, Gentoo, but since I've tried it, I like it. You start to realise how long a glibc, XFree86, kde , and mozilla compile takes though. For those of you who haven't tried it - it makes a kernel compile look like a walk in the park. I started it on Friday evening, and it's now Sunday afternoon. It's been running flat out all this time. And that's a P4 2GHz with 1Gb RAM. ;)
I haven't found out how to list installed packages yet though
PS. Mod me down, I don't care. Karma to burn, baby.
It's just a case of time before everyone else gets in on it.
Of course there are still those companies that will always eat the dog food they're given, rushing to pull the money out of their pockets.
What do you get if you guzzle down sweets,
eating as much as an elephant eats?
What are you at, getting terribly fat,
What do you think will come of that?
(I don't like the look of this!)
Bingo. So you assign nice easy ::1, ::2 ::3 addresses to all the important stuff, and you let auto config take care of all the clients, and workstations that you don't care about.
And there's Dynamic DNS too, if you want to be able to track your workstations by names.
But the second mouse gets the cheese.
"In France, the 14th of July is a National Holiday. It is known as Bastille Day and celebrates the storming of the Bastille , a French prison, in 1789. This was the start of the French Revolution."
Wonder if this has any relevance? Maybe it's a signal, a secret message.. :)
I have 65536 * 2^64 addresses. But you're not grasping how amazingly small that many addresses is.
Ignore the hosts part - it's pretty much fixed as a /64. /64 - that's a total of 2^64 subnets of 2^64 addresses.
The smallest subnet in IPv6 is
My 65536 subnets out of 2^64 is nothing. Yet it's more than I'll ever need for my lab.
It's hierarchical. Someone owns "all" the IP addresses. Big ISP 1 asks for a chunk of space, and gets, oh, I don't know, a /30. ISP 2 gets a /36. Company 3 (me :O) ) gets a /48, which is 65536 subnets, each of 2^64 addresses, which is more than enough for me.
Hierarchical is good, as it means that the world doesn't need to know about routes for each company. It just says: Oh, that address is in the range belonging to Big ISP 1, so I'll pass it on. Big ISP 1 knows that it belongs to ISP 2, and ISP 2 passes it on to Company 3.
NAT is the spawn of SATAN. Really it is. Get two hosts behind NAT, and they are unable to establish connections between themselves. It's truely horrible. At the moment, I am using a tunnel broker to give my lab IPv6 connectivity ( tunnelled over IPv4, but you wouldn't know it.)
Because my workstation is behind NAT on IPv4, I have to either VPN in, or SSH to the firewall, and then onto my workstation. With IPv6 however, because I can address my workstation directly, and because I've allowed SSH to it, I can ssh right in through the firewall. It's just better. Abolish NAT.
Nice troll.
Playing catch-up to Unix, more like.
Start with tunnel-broking, or IPv6 over IPv4.
I can recommend the BT IPv6 tunnel broker if you're in the UK...
Oh yeah, you can download IPv6 functionality for it. And then you can ping IPv6 hosts, and maybe, if you're lucky, you're using the right version of IE that supports IPv6 on 2000. W00t. I think everyone is referring to the full suite of tools. FTP, telnet, SSH (putty), IE, OE, everything. It's pretty pointless to have an IPv6 stack if none of your apps can use it.
Disclaimer: I use Linux, and it all works flawlessly, so I couldn't care less about people stuck on Windows ;)
From ifconfig:
inet6 addr: fe80::240:93fa:fe43:6f50/64 Scope:Link
And you're right - DNS will become more invaluable. ::1, or ::2, etc.
Although you only have to remember your subnet - eg 2001:618:15, and the address you use on that subnet, which is usually something like
DELETE FROM comments WHERE comment LIKE "%repost%" OR comment LIKE "%dupe%" in a crontab would be easier :)
Why would it be? I assume most US based companies and providers don't have many connections to the DOD network :) ;)
When a: there is a decent amount of IPv6 only content, and b: when the most widely used OS in the world ships with it enabled by default, (ipv6 install doesn't count here) then it might start taking hold. But it's a chicken and egg situation at the moment. That autopr0n guy should switch his site to IPv6 only, and force his viewers to start using IPv6 (or IPv6-over-IPv4)
Sign yourself up to an IPv6 tunnelbroker today, and get your own n * 2^64 addresses to play with.
In fact, why isn't Slashdot an IPv6 enabled site?
Hehe - I'm enjoying this soap opera - keep it coming ;)
So that company called Microsoft doesn't improve the wealth of the nation? Wow. And I thought that flood of money coming in from around the world might seep into the US economy some how.
You're going to tell me that Microsoft keeps all its money in Swiss bank accounts now too, and only employees people from China.
I suppose the US Government has to support its largest cash cow - and what better way to do it than this?
It's not about authentication.
SSH to selinux.dev.gentoo.org as root, with the password of gentoo.
Now try and do anything nasty. You (hopefully) can't. You're already root. But there is an extra set of patches that limit the power that root has, which effectively means that even if your box gets rooted, the attacker can't do anything, replace system binaries, etc. Which is shown in this box by allowing everyone to log in as root.
[ ] I agree with that statement
[ ] I neither agree nor disagree with that statement
[ ] I disagree with that statement
[ ] I strongly disagree with that statement
[ ] I would like to kill whoever made that statement
[ ] This statement is not relative
This isn't a vote here - imagine if all the comments to this story were one of the above choice - it'd be pretty dull, wouldn't it.
I bet you dollars to doughnuts every "f1r5t p0s7" troll is some god damn hippy prepubescent script kiddie with his limp dick in one hand and a Gentoo CD in the other. Until Gentoo can learn to FUCKING GROW UP they will not get any respect from the Linux community.
You can't blame "Gentoo" for the actions of their users - that seems a little unfair.
I thought that MiniDiscs used compression anyway?
Seriously - who needs that much speed in a laptop?