If using KDE check out the lisa program, it allows network discovery and browsing of windows shares. Annoyingly you have to manually activate it by editing an rc file, it doesn't do the SysV startup thing.
You missed my point.Mandrake allows usage from either the GUI end or the command line end. My parents haven't seen a command line. I never close mine down. I have used Debian, Slackware, and Redhat, also OSF/1 and the BSD bit of OSX, and like the polish of Mandrake. I build packages from source, and use checkinstall to install them. I do these things because I want to, but I don't have to.
I was playing with gnucash recently, and while I can't compare it to Quicken, something it mentions in the docs is that Intuit were very responsive to customer demand, and so got a great product made.
Actually, I was referring to convert vs. Adobe Acrobat (to turn PDFs into images). The Adobe product also didn't do a very good job of it, restricted output formats, and so on, and convert with bash is very scriptable when it comes to doing a couple of hundred pictures.
I have to work on both Linux boxes and Windows boxes, neither of which I administer. The Linux machines do everything I want, rarely have downtime, etc. The windows machines have a larger staff for a smaller number of boxes, and many have a peice of paper stuck to the wall beside them asking people to write down when they crash so it can be looked into. This includes Win2k boxes.There is always several entries written on that page, along with people asking me why it is that Word has put the conclusion to their thesis in the middle of the document, or that windows decided to BSOD and lose the last half hours work.
While true, it is still also the case that Windows is only $510* if your time is worth nothing.
It seems to me that a working Linux system is likely to take less time to keep working, or fix when it breaks, than an equivalent Windows system. This is backed up by seeing the sorry state of windows machines that I sometimes have to use, and the overworked tech people who have to keep them going. Also the fact that they had to provide me with expensive Adobe software to do something that I could do better for free on a Linux system - with software that was in the default install.
Personally, I don't see the need for dumbed down versions of Linux such as Lindows. I have been using Mandrake since 7.2, and have found the latest version (8.2) more than sufficient for me, as a compulsive command-line user, and when I was last down home I installed it on my parents Celery 400, where it runs better than Win98 did (with the exception of longer startup time). To do this, and teach them how to use it, I had to learn the GUI tools for things. I then discovered that these were much more capable than they used to be. The only exposure my parents have ever had to have to the command line is that breif period after the graphic bootup screen goes away, before X has fully started. They are now happily using konqueror, kmail, and all the games that come with Linux, without problems. Every so often I sent them an email such as 'A new security release has come out. Use MandrakeUpdate.', and thats it.
Its definatly time for Linux on the non-geek desktop, and real Linux at that (none of the logged in as root business). The only thing they didn't do was the actual installation, however I am going to be doing the same conversion to my g/fs computer soon, and will let her do the install so I can see how easy it is for someone not familar with anything beyond powerpoint.
It is also important to keep in mind that there is software to do almost anything that you require avaliable for Linux if you are a casual user. It may yet be missing important applications, those that are more niche products, but all the things a typical user needs are there, such as many variations of solitaire:)
This would allow Network Associates to continue to sell and make money from the command-line version, more popular with corporate techies. "End-users don't pay money," Zimmermann says. "It's the businesses with their techies who pay money and they like to have a command-line product to run in a shell script, so that a big Web site, for example, can encrypt your credit card number. Their command-line product is for one of those raised-floor machine rooms with a bunch of servers and nobody around."
Compare this to the reference in the snort article, where the core code is free, because its the techies who use that, and the GUI addons that cost.
I'm not really going anywhere with this, but it is a little surprising to see two completely diametric viewpoints on the same idea.
As with many things, its a trade off. On one hand, with the sort of thing in the movie, they know what you get last time and could help you find something similar. Many people would find this sort of thing convenient (provided it wasn't too annoying like, say, a paperclip could be). However, speaking for myself, the privacy aspect would be worrying. It removes the voluntary part of submitting information. Kind of like the online newpaper registration systems, only so ubiquitous that it would be impossible to avoid.
anyway can someone shed some light on how cellphone batteries get recharged by cold temperatures?
While it can alter the internal resistance, I would think that main factor would be that taking the battery out for a while allows the electrons to accumulate at the negative terminal. I do that to my phone when the battery is almost dead so that sending a series of messages kills it. Take the battery out for 15 mins or so, put it back and it usually has enough power left to send a few more.
It would certainly be interesting if AMCOS subsequently tried to crack down on people burning CDs after permitting this. While they do take a royalty payment from it, could it still show that they have given tacit permission to copies?
If ``music piracy'' is defined as something similar to ``the illegal copying of music'', then how can the sentence ``plan that legalises music piracy'' be parsed? Once its legal, its no longer piracy.
Use LaTeX or LyX for scientific articles, it is much superior to any wordproccessor, and not too hard to learn, either. (Especially LyX which is just a GUI laid on LaTeX effectivly)
One might infer from your post that EFTPOS requires physically swiping the card--if so, this would seem to make telephone and to a lesser extent Internet transactions problematic, and the system would not be able to replace American credit cards
This is the case, it requires physically swiping, so it isn't a perfect solution, but is more secure than carrying cash or credit cards. This has the effect that people carrying cards are significantly fewer, and many people don't have them. It is only when buying online or via phone that cc's come into their own.
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Yeah, there is obviously not a lot of changes to relearn in an OS that still refers to the IO device as a teletype:)
Seriously tho, I think that some programs (Emacs e.g.) get so entrenched that to change the format would be heresy (hell, I got scared when I installed a new emacs, accidentally hit 'end' instead of ^E....and it did what I meant!)
Another reason, taking a more system-wide view, is that UNIX is big on having little bits talking to other little bits, to make one big useful thing. If one of those bits starts speaking a different language, all sorts of things fall over. However, I think that with the fast-moving programs (e.g. KDE, Gnome and their apps) this will become more of a problem, but as GUI programs don't talk to each other so much, this will be restricted to being a user-interface problem.
...until the Wayback machine archives Google...and Google caches the Wayback machine...and the Wayback machine archives Google...and the entire internet gets sucked into a singularity.
Rumor has it that Razor is someday going to use "fuzzy" matches with one of two algorithms that somehow accomplish such a feat. Anyone know when/if this is supposed to happen??
Is it just me, or is giving linux to the consumer this early a bad thing?
I don't think so. I recently spent a week back home with my parents and I installed Mandrake on their computer (leaving windows there Just In Case), set it up (which was easier than windows - I didn't need all the driver CDs), they are currently using all the KDE default settings, quite happily. Showed them LyX for nice looking documents, kword for fancy looking documents, konquerer and mozilla etc, and they found the games themselves. As I am mostly a commandline user, it surprised me how far and mature KDE is, and I think that it is ready for average users. Soon I will be doing the same to my g/fs computer, as she is annoyed by winME crashing often.
The only problem was with one part of an online banking website not working with konqueror, however that was fixed by telling them to use Mozilla for that (the computer doesn't have a lot of RAM, so Moz isn't good for all the time use)
Based on my experience, I say: install Linux where windows software isn't completly necessary, and people should be quite happy. (It also serves to get the name out there, which is a good thing.)
In fact, these things have been know to kill Macs ( Celine Dion anyone? )
Actually, this is believed to not be a fault in the CD itself after all. With Apples recent attempts to make the Mac look tasteful, it has inadvertantly aquired taste itself, and thus is simply unable to stomach having a Celine Dion CD put inside it. Its kind of a defense mechanism.
I really wish we had something like this here in the US. Say goodbye to pocket change.
Here in.nz we have EFTPOS (Electronic Fund Transfer at Point Of Sale). This is a plastic card that is commonly used for everything from buying chocolate bars to computers. Basically, your account has a card (or cards) linked to it, and when you swipe the card on a reader, it queries your account, and if you have the money, it debits it. The main thing about these cards is that they are protected by a PIN. Also, most of the banks have a deal where there are no extra charges if you are a student. However, if you aren't a student, you are typically charged 15-20c per transaction, so it is common to get cash out when you use the card. Its now rare for me to carry much more than NZ$10 cash, unless I know I'm going to need some soon.
Its amusing to see discussions of credit cards pop up on mailing lists with Americans, where they complain about the insecurity of them, but also say that they will not be replaced because there really is nothing better. Here, its virtually unknown for fraud to occur with the cards (except for occasional cases of people shoulder-surfing for PINs, then pinching the card).
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I mean who really needs a new capital with a retracting dome and stadium seating?
Duh! Its needed to allow them to escape the planet when everybody discovers the mess they created, and is after their blood. Without a retractable dome, the rockets underneath won't have quite the same effect.
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Thats nothing, it becomes a scary commentry on music when you are downloading the latest pop/techno track and can't tell if its a loop or not!
EXCEPT for the Windows network insteraction
If using KDE check out the lisa program, it allows network discovery and browsing of windows shares. Annoyingly you have to manually activate it by editing an rc file, it doesn't do the SysV startup thing.
You missed my point.Mandrake allows usage from either the GUI end or the command line end. My parents haven't seen a command line. I never close mine down. I have used Debian, Slackware, and Redhat, also OSF/1 and the BSD bit of OSX, and like the polish of Mandrake. I build packages from source, and use checkinstall to install them. I do these things because I want to, but I don't have to.
I was playing with gnucash recently, and while I can't compare it to Quicken, something it mentions in the docs is that Intuit were very responsive to customer demand, and so got a great product made.
Actually, I was referring to convert vs. Adobe Acrobat (to turn PDFs into images). The Adobe product also didn't do a very good job of it, restricted output formats, and so on, and convert with bash is very scriptable when it comes to doing a couple of hundred pictures.
I have to work on both Linux boxes and Windows boxes, neither of which I administer. The Linux machines do everything I want, rarely have downtime, etc. The windows machines have a larger staff for a smaller number of boxes, and many have a peice of paper stuck to the wall beside them asking people to write down when they crash so it can be looked into. This includes Win2k boxes.There is always several entries written on that page, along with people asking me why it is that Word has put the conclusion to their thesis in the middle of the document, or that windows decided to BSOD and lose the last half hours work.
Linux is only free if your time is worth nothing
While true, it is still also the case that Windows is only $510* if your time is worth nothing.
It seems to me that a working Linux system is likely to take less time to keep working, or fix when it breaks, than an equivalent Windows system. This is backed up by seeing the sorry state of windows machines that I sometimes have to use, and the overworked tech people who have to keep them going. Also the fact that they had to provide me with expensive Adobe software to do something that I could do better for free on a Linux system - with software that was in the default install.
* NZD, at a local shop.
Personally, I don't see the need for dumbed down versions of Linux such as Lindows. I have been using Mandrake since 7.2, and have found the latest version (8.2) more than sufficient for me, as a compulsive command-line user, and when I was last down home I installed it on my parents Celery 400, where it runs better than Win98 did (with the exception of longer startup time). To do this, and teach them how to use it, I had to learn the GUI tools for things. I then discovered that these were much more capable than they used to be. The only exposure my parents have ever had to have to the command line is that breif period after the graphic bootup screen goes away, before X has fully started. They are now happily using konqueror, kmail, and all the games that come with Linux, without problems. Every so often I sent them an email such as 'A new security release has come out. Use MandrakeUpdate.', and thats it.
Its definatly time for Linux on the non-geek desktop, and real Linux at that (none of the logged in as root business). The only thing they didn't do was the actual installation, however I am going to be doing the same conversion to my g/fs computer soon, and will let her do the install so I can see how easy it is for someone not familar with anything beyond powerpoint.
It is also important to keep in mind that there is software to do almost anything that you require avaliable for Linux if you are a casual user. It may yet be missing important applications, those that are more niche products, but all the things a typical user needs are there, such as many variations of solitaire :)
An interesting comment in the Newsforge article:
This would allow Network Associates to continue to sell and make money from the command-line version, more popular with corporate techies. "End-users don't pay money," Zimmermann says. "It's the businesses with their techies who pay money and they like to have a command-line product to run in a shell script, so that a big Web site, for example, can encrypt your credit card number. Their command-line product is for one of those raised-floor machine rooms with a bunch of servers and nobody around."
Compare this to the reference in the snort article, where the core code is free, because its the techies who use that, and the GUI addons that cost.
I'm not really going anywhere with this, but it is a little surprising to see two completely diametric viewpoints on the same idea.
and it was the best one on the CD.
Can you please rip and and share it on Gnutella? I want to listen to it.
No source
The source code should be under the link that says "Download the source code", however currently it is 404, but may be there sometime soon.Anyone agree?
As with many things, its a trade off. On one hand, with the sort of thing in the movie, they know what you get last time and could help you find something similar. Many people would find this sort of thing convenient (provided it wasn't too annoying like, say, a paperclip could be). However, speaking for myself, the privacy aspect would be worrying. It removes the voluntary part of submitting information. Kind of like the online newpaper registration systems, only so ubiquitous that it would be impossible to avoid.
anyway can someone shed some light on how cellphone batteries get recharged by cold temperatures?
While it can alter the internal resistance, I would think that main factor would be that taking the battery out for a while allows the electrons to accumulate at the negative terminal. I do that to my phone when the battery is almost dead so that sending a series of messages kills it. Take the battery out for 15 mins or so, put it back and it usually has enough power left to send a few more.
It would certainly be interesting if AMCOS subsequently tried to crack down on people burning CDs after permitting this. While they do take a royalty payment from it, could it still show that they have given tacit permission to copies?
If ``music piracy'' is defined as something similar to ``the illegal copying of music'', then how can the sentence ``plan that legalises music piracy'' be parsed? Once its legal, its no longer piracy.
Use LaTeX or LyX for scientific articles, it is much superior to any wordproccessor, and not too hard to learn, either. (Especially LyX which is just a GUI laid on LaTeX effectivly)
One might infer from your post that EFTPOS requires physically swiping the card--if so, this would seem to make telephone and to a lesser extent Internet transactions problematic, and the system would not be able to replace American credit cards
This is the case, it requires physically swiping, so it isn't a perfect solution, but is more secure than carrying cash or credit cards. This has the effect that people carrying cards are significantly fewer, and many people don't have them. It is only when buying online or via phone that cc's come into their own.
Yeah, there is obviously not a lot of changes to relearn in an OS that still refers to the IO device as a teletype :)
Seriously tho, I think that some programs (Emacs e.g.) get so entrenched that to change the format would be heresy (hell, I got scared when I installed a new emacs, accidentally hit 'end' instead of ^E....and it did what I meant!)
Another reason, taking a more system-wide view, is that UNIX is big on having little bits talking to other little bits, to make one big useful thing. If one of those bits starts speaking a different language, all sorts of things fall over. However, I think that with the fast-moving programs (e.g. KDE, Gnome and their apps) this will become more of a problem, but as GUI programs don't talk to each other so much, this will be restricted to being a user-interface problem.
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Damn!
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...until the Wayback machine archives Google...and Google caches the Wayback machine...and the Wayback machine archives Google...and the entire internet gets sucked into a singularity.
Rumor has it that Razor is someday going to use "fuzzy" matches with one of two algorithms that somehow accomplish such a feat. Anyone know when/if this is supposed to happen??
It does now. Download the latest.
Is it just me, or is giving linux to the consumer this early a bad thing?
I don't think so. I recently spent a week back home with my parents and I installed Mandrake on their computer (leaving windows there Just In Case), set it up (which was easier than windows - I didn't need all the driver CDs), they are currently using all the KDE default settings, quite happily. Showed them LyX for nice looking documents, kword for fancy looking documents, konquerer and mozilla etc, and they found the games themselves. As I am mostly a commandline user, it surprised me how far and mature KDE is, and I think that it is ready for average users. Soon I will be doing the same to my g/fs computer, as she is annoyed by winME crashing often.
The only problem was with one part of an online banking website not working with konqueror, however that was fixed by telling them to use Mozilla for that (the computer doesn't have a lot of RAM, so Moz isn't good for all the time use)
Based on my experience, I say: install Linux where windows software isn't completly necessary, and people should be quite happy. (It also serves to get the name out there, which is a good thing.)
In fact, these things have been know to kill Macs ( Celine Dion anyone? )
Actually, this is believed to not be a fault in the CD itself after all. With Apples recent attempts to make the Mac look tasteful, it has inadvertantly aquired taste itself, and thus is simply unable to stomach having a Celine Dion CD put inside it. Its kind of a defense mechanism.
I really wish we had something like this here in the US. Say goodbye to pocket change.
Here in .nz we have EFTPOS (Electronic Fund Transfer at Point Of Sale). This is a plastic card that is commonly used for everything from buying chocolate bars to computers. Basically, your account has a card (or cards) linked to it, and when you swipe the card on a reader, it queries your account, and if you have the money, it debits it. The main thing about these cards is that they are protected by a PIN. Also, most of the banks have a deal where there are no extra charges if you are a student. However, if you aren't a student, you are typically charged 15-20c per transaction, so it is common to get cash out when you use the card. Its now rare for me to carry much more than NZ$10 cash, unless I know I'm going to need some soon.
Its amusing to see discussions of credit cards pop up on mailing lists with Americans, where they complain about the insecurity of them, but also say that they will not be replaced because there really is nothing better. Here, its virtually unknown for fraud to occur with the cards (except for occasional cases of people shoulder-surfing for PINs, then pinching the card).
use this for logging in
...or, even better, use the NYT Random Login Generator.
I mean who really needs a new capital with a retracting dome and stadium seating?
Duh! Its needed to allow them to escape the planet when everybody discovers the mess they created, and is after their blood. Without a retractable dome, the rockets underneath won't have quite the same effect.
The comment on the reviewer's part about the mouse gestures being annoying pretty much invalidated the whole review for me.
Really?! For me! it was! the exclmation marks! after things like! ancient Babylonian!!! :)