Hmm...that seems to be the key to make MMOGs even more popular to the non crack monsters. I bought both EQ2 and WoW after christmas but now both are gone from my limited laptop hardrive.
What's the magical formula for MMOG developers where a player can get in for an hour, do something substantial and fun and then bail?
That got me thinking about easy reading an the human mind. It's not the sentence, or really a logical paragraph split, but it seems to be almost a pure visual limit where after x number of words we have problems comprehending.
You get the college kids to do all this open source low-level stuff for free and have people do business analysis instead of monkeying around with pointers.
Most businesses aren't in the business of selling software.
How? I honestly don't see it. It's not like a GNOME app will simply cease to function under KDE.
You've got umpteen distros and nothing for ISVs to target. Would it be better if there were 4 desktops with equal market share or is the equally random Gnome and KDE some kind of magical equilibrium.
Then you have debs and rpms and gentoo ebuilds and I guess autopackage trying to be cross-distro.
I'll probably use E17 when it comes out, and not even care about linux desktop penetration. But to me everything is too chaotic to make a substantial dent in the windows market. It'll continue to be a hobbyist thing.
Some people run Linux because it's cheap and Unix, but could care less about source code.
Some people run Linux because of GNU philosophy.
Some people run Linux because they get the source.
Some people don't even care about marketshare (a lot of old schoolers).
But many people want Linux to make a dent in the windows desktop monopoly, and trying to sell a "tinkerer source code philosophy" will never accomplish that.
But having two dominant desktops has hurt linux on the desktop - all because of random historical incidents. That's just fact. You can scream choice all you want, but there's not even a standard toolkit, even though the low-level windowing system X11 is standard.
So now we have KDE that many of the big players are avoiding (probably because of the reliance on Trolltech's Qt), but with superior tech, and Gnome who has big player backing, but has blundered along with failed technologies such as Bonobo and a less than stellar toolkit - Gtk+.
Of course Linus, LSB, or anybody else with influence doesn't want to touch this white hot issue with a ten foot pole, so who knows if things will ever change.
Sometimes being on a closed platform has advantages.
After all of the "Is This the Death of Linux" articles after the OSX-x86 announcement someone actually puts "the Desktop" qualifier in the title. geez.
I think you're the first or maybe second post that is pointing out the obvious. I've been running Linux since '97 on the server and more recently in embedded space but when did XFree get ported to Linux - late '91, early '92?
There is absolutely no chance for Linux to ever, ever be a serious desktop contender when there isn't a standard toolkit.
And then the whole distros thing....Linux is unique even among other Unixes in this whole distro thing. There's one FreeBSD, one NetBSD, but there are umpteen linux distros.
Linux will always work as a great server, and I'll probably always have a spare machine around to play with something different like GoboLinux and E17 but Linux's chance as a serious desktop marketshare grabber have all but passed.
I guess IBM hopes that everybody would just forget when they were hated like Microsoft back in the early 80s and before.
But this is great for IBM...free labor always is. I guess there is a new breed of programmer that doesn't value their work anymore.
Not only that, but they just help out MegaloCorp in their new "services" business model.
I guess the days of the independent developer is all but gone. You might as well get a day job at McDonalds and code for IBM, RedHat, Sun and others for free when you get home at night......NOT!
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Yeah, i'm not sure I know what the point is.
At one time, there was a project called BlueEyed OS which was basically the linux kernel and X and everything else new with the BeOS apis. I think it's died or on life support, but my point is they could have stlll had a proprietary user space with all the drivers that linux offers, the 3d hardware acceleration that linux/X has for ATI/Nviidia.
And of course Haiku development seems to be moving at decent clip. But hey, if it's all legal and they end up making money who am I to judge.
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"based on proprietary code" tells us nothing. We already know that. Hasn't anyone ever confronted one of these guys into giving a straight answer?
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So did they ever confirm one way or another if they have the kernel source code?
I'd feel kind of silly spending 99 euros for an operating system in which these guys don't even have the source - or even legally for that matter.
Guess what...more people are going to die going to, coming from, and in space...surprise surprise.
I'm sick of this nancy boy, nurse ratchet mentality where there can be no risks in anything and when an accident does happen we have to spread the blame as much as possible. And I'm talking about society in general, not space flight.
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Hmm...that seems to be the key to make MMOGs even more popular to the non crack monsters. I bought both EQ2 and WoW after christmas but now both are gone from my limited laptop hardrive.
What's the magical formula for MMOG developers where a player can get in for an hour, do something substantial and fun and then bail?
That got me thinking about easy reading an the human mind. It's not the sentence, or really a logical paragraph split, but it seems to be almost a pure visual limit where after x number of words we have problems comprehending.
Thank you for the easy-reading.
Maybe it'll be interesting in 2019 (if it happens).
I hear some tribe in Borneo has plans for a 2120 launch of a man in orbit.
Nice job trollboy, I'm sure you'll confuse some poor mod.
You get the college kids to do all this open source low-level stuff for free and have people do business analysis instead of monkeying around with pointers.
Most businesses aren't in the business of selling software.
How? I honestly don't see it. It's not like a GNOME app will simply cease to function under KDE.
You've got umpteen distros and nothing for ISVs to target. Would it be better if there were 4 desktops with equal market share or is the equally random Gnome and KDE some kind of magical equilibrium.
Then you have debs and rpms and gentoo ebuilds and I guess autopackage trying to be cross-distro.
I'll probably use E17 when it comes out, and not even care about linux desktop penetration. But to me everything is too chaotic to make a substantial dent in the windows market. It'll continue to be a hobbyist thing.
Some people run Linux because it's cheap and Unix, but could care less about source code.
Some people run Linux because of GNU philosophy.
Some people run Linux because they get the source.
Some people don't even care about marketshare (a lot of old schoolers).
But many people want Linux to make a dent in the windows desktop monopoly, and trying to sell a "tinkerer source code philosophy" will never accomplish that.
But having two dominant desktops has hurt linux on the desktop - all because of random historical incidents. That's just fact. You can scream choice all you want, but there's not even a standard toolkit, even though the low-level windowing system X11 is standard.
So now we have KDE that many of the big players are avoiding (probably because of the reliance on Trolltech's Qt), but with superior tech, and Gnome who has big player backing, but has blundered along with failed technologies such as Bonobo and a less than stellar toolkit - Gtk+.
Of course Linus, LSB, or anybody else with influence doesn't want to touch this white hot issue with a ten foot pole, so who knows if things will ever change.
Sometimes being on a closed platform has advantages.
After all of the "Is This the Death of Linux" articles after the OSX-x86 announcement someone actually puts "the Desktop" qualifier in the title. geez.
Even if the drivers were under a less restrictive license like BSD you couldn't just copy-n-paste because they are different kernels.
The real key is that the specs are there in source code form.
Someone has already "ported" some Solaris code over to Linux. Look in this thread for the example.
At least you didn't compare him to Nick Burns.
Only on Slashdot, year after year, we get these asshats saying "but real communism hasn't been tried yet."
Communists are like cockroaches, you gotta keep on exterminating them or they just come back.
Always like the movie "The 13th floor".
It's more like observer mode in CounterStrike.
got karma to burn frogs.....keep it coming surrender monkeys.
http://www.fuckfrance.com/
$1.8 million a year for 3 years. Yeah, I'm sure this will be a mediocre new flight sim for Microsoft.
Before planning meals, why don't they start planning on their first try at getting a man up off the rock we live on.
I think you're the first or maybe second post that is pointing out the obvious. I've been running Linux since '97 on the server and more recently in embedded space but when did XFree get ported to Linux - late '91, early '92?
There is absolutely no chance for Linux to ever, ever be a serious desktop contender when there isn't a standard toolkit.
And then the whole distros thing....Linux is unique even among other Unixes in this whole distro thing. There's one FreeBSD, one NetBSD, but there are umpteen linux distros.
Linux will always work as a great server, and I'll probably always have a spare machine around to play with something different like GoboLinux and E17 but Linux's chance as a serious desktop marketshare grabber have all but passed.
I guess IBM hopes that everybody would just forget when they were hated like Microsoft back in the early 80s and before.
But this is great for IBM...free labor always is. I guess there is a new breed of programmer that doesn't value their work anymore.
Not only that, but they just help out MegaloCorp in their new "services" business model.
I guess the days of the independent developer is all but gone. You might as well get a day job at McDonalds and code for IBM, RedHat, Sun and others for free when you get home at night......NOT!
Yeah, i'm not sure I know what the point is.
At one time, there was a project called BlueEyed OS which was basically the linux kernel and X and everything else new with the BeOS apis. I think it's died or on life support, but my point is they could have stlll had a proprietary user space with all the drivers that linux offers, the 3d hardware acceleration that linux/X has for ATI/Nviidia.
And of course Haiku development seems to be moving at decent clip. But hey, if it's all legal and they end up making money who am I to judge.
"based on proprietary code" tells us nothing. We already know that. Hasn't anyone ever confronted one of these guys into giving a straight answer?
So did they ever confirm one way or another if they have the kernel source code?
I'd feel kind of silly spending 99 euros for an operating system in which these guys don't even have the source - or even legally for that matter.
Guess what...more people are going to die going to, coming from, and in space...surprise surprise.
I'm sick of this nancy boy, nurse ratchet mentality where there can be no risks in anything and when an accident does happen we have to spread the blame as much as possible. And I'm talking about society in general, not space flight.