I just don't get it with spam... I get virtually none. I never have - it just isn't rocket science to take some minor steps to avoid it. The only times I do get spam, it's to a spam trap account that I leave out in the wild, but then it's no more that a nigerian with a busines proposition or two a week. It's the same with viruses - I don't seem to get those either.
Point is the answer isn't some ill-thought plan to try and impose centralised control over protocols, it's just old fashioned education that's needed.
Ok, I use gentoo, and even I'm getting miffed with the "yeah, but why not just use gentoo" when any other distro is mentioned.
And anyhow, RH 9 actually does include something much more than "a little gloss" - NPTL (warning - link is to a pdf)
Now if you've ever tried to debug a core file of a multi-threaded app, or dealt with signal propagation with the old... aw, shucks never mind, but take my word for it, NPTL - woot woot
Ps. For anyone who runs a sun shop, what exactly is sunone and n1? Is it a big deal or just hype from sun?
Hype. And sunone was just counterhype to dotnet, at least that's what I always thought. Although sunone isn't sufficiently interesting for me to have ever looked into it enough to back that up with any facts;o)
I just don't know why Sun had a Linux distro in he first place. What value did they think they were adding? How could it contribute to their server sales? From the beginning, this stunk of some suit saying "we're getting creamed by Linux on commodity hardware - we should be doing Linux!"
I know for a fact that businesses told Sun they could not envisage using their offerings - it just didn't get you anything you couldn't get elsewhere better and cheaper...
My biggest gripe so far is managing a lot of servers in a headless environment. None of the major hardware manufacturers have so far provided decent interfaces to manage hardware reporting. Mainly because of component manufacturers not wanting to open source their hardware layer, but if I'm to cope with hundreds of servers, I need decent snmp interfaces to hardware problems. Solaris boxes will log hardware degredation, linux will not satisfactorily.
Other than that there are still problems with the ability to manage crash dumps, both of the OS, and of processes. On a solaris box, whereas it may not be more stable exactly, it will let me know before there are problems better than Linux. And when it does go titsup, I have more chance of debugging UNIX.
Others may point at Unix's ability to scale up, but that' really jut a mindset change for development, to code out rather than up.
Why? This is a wonderfuly readable piece of code. You code, and perl will DWIM. I sat through a wonderful talk with Damian COnway, and one of his arguments against the oft-called for multi-line comments you get in other languages, is that the code should be self-documenting. There's just no way:
open(FILE, "/path/to/some/file") or die "Sorry, couldn't open file: $!\n";
Okay, so I guess most people woill have read the books already. But it's at least 1/3rd of the way through till Gandalf the White makes his appearence - giving it away in the trailer is a little unfair (think of the kids! think of the kids!;-)
Uhm, apparently it's too tricky for a significant amount of the electorate in Florida.
Actually, scrub that, it's not exactly fair. Floridans have had a bad rap ever since that election, IMO. There's a margin or error in any system you use, full stop. I've yet to see any system, electronic or not, that would have had less of a margin of error than the slim "majority" the GOP had in Florida
Look, I saw all the shows when I was younger, predicting all the shiny toys I had to look forward to. Computers that can fix themselves is a step in the right direction. Now I want computers that can do all my work for me, make me cups of tea, and look after all my chores.
Oooh, and a hover board, they said I could have a hover board, where is it, dammit?
...are going to have a lot to wade through when they study the information age. Remembering my undergraduate days of wading through letters of the 16/17th century landed gentry, how the hell is anyone going to cope with the embarassment of riches that we are leaving behind?
For me the story here isn't that they ripped a great app. Free as in freedom means just that, you are free to use the code, ridistribute, repackage, and sell, so lomng as you adhere to the GPL. Freedom means you are free to do something that the original autjors might object to as easiy as anything else.
The story here is that it is a great example of why this movement works so well. Software has to compete on merit and purpose for the job. It's almost Darwinism of software. New features, or mutations, of the code, only survive if they enable the code to compete. A mutation that adds spyware will not survive against a version that has the self-same functionality without the strings attached. This app will fall by the wayside, consigned to the rubbish bin of software evolution.
OSS prompts us toward code that is most fit for a purpose, this example helps illustrate that point IMO
...to hope Transmeta does fold so Linus can devote all of his time to Linux when it's at such a critical point. He'd need to earn a wage, but I'm sure there would be support for a Linux Development fund a la Perl. And he wouldn't be short of consultancy/lecture jobs.
You obviously haven't had to fsck a huge filesystem. Telling your customers that the outage would have been 15 minutes rather than >1hr if only you'd used a journaling filesystem would not be fun.
It's not exactly a new assertion, but Open Source quite obviously killed most of the motivation behind warez. Now we can just download the apps we need anyway. The desire to put your name out there, and to participate in the distribution of good software to people. Many of those creative people that would oce have been cracking software have a much more interesting, rewarding and legal outlet in devloping open source applications. Instead of "giving something back" by posting warez to ng's or pub ftp's, you can do your bit by bug testing, or contributing documentation etc etc
The whole concept, dumb graphics terminals tied to application servers, is obsolete
I beg to differ. It is not obsolete, and it's getting bigger every day. I have a huge number of users who now interact with *nix X apps purely via Exceed. It's simply not economical to have two boxes under people's desks.
But it's not just that, in the Woindows space, terminal server just keeps getting bigger and bigger. Published apps via Citrix to thinner clients, or even pure thin clients.
And then look at XP itself, from an enterprise stanpoint one of the best things about it is that it comes with a terminal server built in to every client.
There seem to be a lot of anti-perl flames, so until someone more intelligent, charismatic and pretty deigns to post, I may as well try to defend it...
First - the myths, untruths etc that have sprung up so far.
Perl6 is not backwards-compatible with Perl5 - uhm, yes it is. All your perl5 scripts will compile.
Why not contribute to phython or [insert other language here] well, python will compile through Parrot too, so who cares? If you like Python, write in Python. I prefer $%&? syntax to whitespace-as-syntax, but each to their own, but that is the joy of Parrot. Think.Net CLR without the so-far unfounded feeling that M$ are doing something underhand and nasty that you can't put your finger on. Before someone replies with "Why not just use the CLR instead of Parrot"? bear in mind this has been done to death already. It's in the FAQ, read first, flame later.
But why Perl? Okay, so it can be write-only. But this is only because of the flexibility, There Is More Than One Way To Do It. This includes obfuscated code, and plain unreadable alien transmissions. However - if you're writing code only you will ever see, then use the short-cuts. If you are writing code that needs to be maintained, then YOU the developer have the responsibility to ensure it is readable.
Heck, you could always use english; - but this is perl, you can also code in Latin, or, uhm, Klingon.
Perl is simply the most flexible language out there IMHO. If you're a sysadmin, you will have the Camel and the cookbook on your desk. Our entire environment is held together with Perl. Half the Internet is running on Perl. A dead language? Sheesh, Perl is dead, long live Perl.
If there is anything that does worry me about perl6, it is that it is becomiung too powerful, and too encompassing - it is important that the balance is maintained whereby it remains the Swiss Army Knife of languages, that it remains as easy for the casual Perl programmer to keep getting their job done with simple scripts as it is to create large projects.
Wouldn't making it harder to counterfeit the greenback bankrupt several countries? How's Russia going to survive when half its paper curreny gets flushed out as fake?
Just because you can't see them, doesn't mean they're not there.
I dunno - they may be good enough for the Fed to remove them from circulation, but they do little to protect consumers and businesses. Here in the UK, you can pretty much tell if a note is genuine by running your fingers across the embossed writing, checking the foil strip, and then the watermarks. The new fivers have UV stuff too. When I was in the US, if it was green and had numbers on it, it was good enough for me...
Well, I'm sorry, but that honestly just means that your company doesn't know how to admin their win2k server. I work i9n a team of Solaris/Linux sysadmins, but we sit pretty close to the wintel guys, and they know how to keep their servers up. Stop going for the cheap anti-M$ karma.
Republic How one brave American kept alive the words of his mentor, Socrates, and gave birth to modern Philosopy.
Luther of Pittsburg The American that defied the Catholic Church, and by faith alone brought the Protestant faith into the world.
And 7 days in Louisiana How the Lord Almighty "Chuck", created the Universe and everything in it, then sat down on the 7th day, ate grits and watched the first ever superbowl.
Jeez what is with the paranoia in the US? Seing as how history is already starting to see the cold war as purely a paranoid fantasy dreamed up by idiots in Washington, you'd have thought you would have learned your lesson. But no, leaking scare stories to the press one month, telling everyone you're aiming nukes at them the last.
The only people planning to cyber attack the US are spotty Teaxan kids who hang out in alt.2600
Ever seen the Chinese character for l33t haXor d00d?
I do most of my reading of/. at work. We filter slashdot only the standard top level comments come through (anything through the script is junked). So I can't block the ads, and subscibing will get me nothing. Thanks.
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Point is the answer isn't some ill-thought plan to try and impose centralised control over protocols, it's just old fashioned education that's needed.
And anyhow, RH 9 actually does include something much more than "a little gloss" - NPTL (warning - link is to a pdf)
Now if you've ever tried to debug a core file of a multi-threaded app, or dealt with signal propagation with the old... aw, shucks never mind, but take my word for it, NPTL - woot woot
Oh, woot woot BT too by the looks of things...
Hype. And sunone was just counterhype to dotnet, at least that's what I always thought. Although sunone isn't sufficiently interesting for me to have ever looked into it enough to back that up with any facts ;o)
I know for a fact that businesses told Sun they could not envisage using their offerings - it just didn't get you anything you couldn't get elsewhere better and cheaper...
Other than that there are still problems with the ability to manage crash dumps, both of the OS, and of processes. On a solaris box, whereas it may not be more stable exactly, it will let me know before there are problems better than Linux. And when it does go titsup, I have more chance of debugging UNIX.
Others may point at Unix's ability to scale up, but that' really jut a mindset change for development, to code out rather than up.
Okay, so I guess most people woill have read the books already. But it's at least 1/3rd of the way through till Gandalf the White makes his appearence - giving it away in the trailer is a little unfair (think of the kids! think of the kids! ;-)
Uhm, apparently it's too tricky for a significant amount of the electorate in Florida.
Actually, scrub that, it's not exactly fair. Floridans have had a bad rap ever since that election, IMO. There's a margin or error in any system you use, full stop. I've yet to see any system, electronic or not, that would have had less of a margin of error than the slim "majority" the GOP had in Florida
Oooh, and a hover board, they said I could have a hover board, where is it, dammit?
...are going to have a lot to wade through when they study the information age. Remembering my undergraduate days of wading through letters of the 16/17th century landed gentry, how the hell is anyone going to cope with the embarassment of riches that we are leaving behind?
The story here is that it is a great example of why this movement works so well. Software has to compete on merit and purpose for the job. It's almost Darwinism of software. New features, or mutations, of the code, only survive if they enable the code to compete. A mutation that adds spyware will not survive against a version that has the self-same functionality without the strings attached. This app will fall by the wayside, consigned to the rubbish bin of software evolution.
OSS prompts us toward code that is most fit for a purpose, this example helps illustrate that point IMO
uhmm... <AOL>me too</AOL> ;-)
You obviously haven't had to fsck a huge filesystem. Telling your customers that the outage would have been 15 minutes rather than >1hr if only you'd used a journaling filesystem would not be fun.
It's not exactly a new assertion, but Open Source quite obviously killed most of the motivation behind warez. Now we can just download the apps we need anyway. The desire to put your name out there, and to participate in the distribution of good software to people. Many of those creative people that would oce have been cracking software have a much more interesting, rewarding and legal outlet in devloping open source applications. Instead of "giving something back" by posting warez to ng's or pub ftp's, you can do your bit by bug testing, or contributing documentation etc etc
I beg to differ. It is not obsolete, and it's getting bigger every day. I have a huge number of users who now interact with *nix X apps purely via Exceed. It's simply not economical to have two boxes under people's desks.
But it's not just that, in the Woindows space, terminal server just keeps getting bigger and bigger. Published apps via Citrix to thinner clients, or even pure thin clients.
And then look at XP itself, from an enterprise stanpoint one of the best things about it is that it comes with a terminal server built in to every client.
First - the myths, untruths etc that have sprung up so far.
Perl6 is not backwards-compatible with Perl5 - uhm, yes it is. All your perl5 scripts will compile.
Why not contribute to phython or [insert other language here] well, python will compile through Parrot too, so who cares? If you like Python, write in Python. I prefer $%&? syntax to whitespace-as-syntax, but each to their own, but that is the joy of Parrot. Think .Net CLR without the so-far unfounded feeling that M$ are doing something underhand and nasty that you can't put your finger on. Before someone replies with "Why not just use the CLR instead of Parrot"? bear in mind this has been done to death already. It's in the FAQ, read first, flame later.
But why Perl? Okay, so it can be write-only. But this is only because of the flexibility, There Is More Than One Way To Do It. This includes obfuscated code, and plain unreadable alien transmissions. However - if you're writing code only you will ever see, then use the short-cuts. If you are writing code that needs to be maintained, then YOU the developer have the responsibility to ensure it is readable.
Heck, you could always use english; - but this is perl, you can also code in Latin, or, uhm, Klingon.
Perl is simply the most flexible language out there IMHO. If you're a sysadmin, you will have the Camel and the cookbook on your desk. Our entire environment is held together with Perl. Half the Internet is running on Perl. A dead language? Sheesh, Perl is dead, long live Perl.
If there is anything that does worry me about perl6, it is that it is becomiung too powerful, and too encompassing - it is important that the balance is maintained whereby it remains the Swiss Army Knife of languages, that it remains as easy for the casual Perl programmer to keep getting their job done with simple scripts as it is to create large projects.
Wouldn't making it harder to counterfeit the greenback bankrupt several countries? How's Russia going to survive when half its paper curreny gets flushed out as fake?
I dunno - they may be good enough for the Fed to remove them from circulation, but they do little to protect consumers and businesses. Here in the UK, you can pretty much tell if a note is genuine by running your fingers across the embossed writing, checking the foil strip, and then the watermarks. The new fivers have UV stuff too. When I was in the US, if it was green and had numbers on it, it was good enough for me...
Wow. Flames from anonymous cowards are about as interesting as "windoze sucks" comments.
Well, I'm sorry, but that honestly just means that your company doesn't know how to admin their win2k server. I work i9n a team of Solaris/Linux sysadmins, but we sit pretty close to the wintel guys, and they know how to keep their servers up. Stop going for the cheap anti-M$ karma.
Republic How one brave American kept alive the words of his mentor, Socrates, and gave birth to modern Philosopy.
Luther of Pittsburg The American that defied the Catholic Church, and by faith alone brought the Protestant faith into the world.
And 7 days in Louisiana How the Lord Almighty "Chuck", created the Universe and everything in it, then sat down on the 7th day, ate grits and watched the first ever superbowl.
...but I can't seem to find Ctrl-Alt-Del on my remote.
The only people planning to cyber attack the US are spotty Teaxan kids who hang out in alt.2600
Ever seen the Chinese character for l33t haXor d00d?
I do most of my reading of /. at work. We filter slashdot only the standard top level comments come through (anything through the script is junked). So I can't block the ads, and subscibing will get me nothing. Thanks.