No, really. Consider the evidence, Billy Gates steals from the rich (via punative software licences), gives to the poor. With his trusty Little Steve Ballmer at his side, with the quarterstaff of a dodgy salesforce. Ok, so some SME's & govts might get hurt, but that's just collateral damage considering all the megacorps that are giving cash that gets spent fighting diease and poverty!
I'm sorry, but I work crazy long days, do stressful work, and don't get paid *nearly* as much as the people who are actually performing business roles (I work in the financial sector, not a tech firm). But jeez, even if I just look at professional jobs, doctors and teachers do have it much worse, get less pay, are in more demanding positions, and imho do more good.
But that aint my point. I'm in IT cos I enjoy it. I'm a technologist, and I'm fascinated and motivated by what I do. Money isn't irrelevant, of course it isn't. But I have a good working life because I enjoy what I do, and my employer gets (hopefully) a better return because a happy worker produces better work. This isn't about a vow of poverty, this is about valuing the 40-70+ hours a week you spend doing something more than the cash you get for doing it.
So I will continue to look for those traits in the people I hire - you want people who believe in the cause, not mercenaries. Of course you want to reward the people who do good stuff, but we shouldn't promise everyone riches just for passing GO.
It's going to end up that the really smart and talented people end up going into other fields.
Isn't it better - for everyone - that people go into the fields they actually have a talent for?
What more people usually bitch about is how the relative difficulty of entering the field has increased for newcomers.
Right... it's gotten harder to waltz in to an industry with very little to bring to the table. I interview a lot, predominantly grads into a fortune 100. It has gotten *easier* to hire people who are good, not because the market is saturated, but because I am getting less people who are pursuing a career in IT purely cos they think it will make them big bucks. I don't want those people, I want people who are interested in what they do. Otherwise, ultimately they are wasting my time, and their own careers. They won't stay long, and they won't enjoy the time they do spend.
Taking some of the "glamour" out will be better for the industry, and it will be a better fit for the people who choose to do this. Money is, or should, be a secondary concern for everyone involved - there are bigger priorities here.
whether you call it GPL or not. The idea here, folks, is to get shit done. The GPL et al is a handy way of making sure that you don't have to jump through hoops, or reinvent the wheel in order to get shit done - you just use the accumalated sum of human knowledge at your disposal to make things that people can use to do stuff.
Can you imagine human history without being able to use other people's good ideas? I mean even if it's not derived? "I'm sorry, you can't have that steam train - I represent the estate of the ancient greeks, and we have a patent on the steam engine."
Having said all that, accreditation is nice - aknowledge the work that people have done, it's cool that you are doing this. This is what polite people in academia do - just recognise the derivation of the idea, then use it with what you're doing.
Having "older" versions of packages is exactly what you need to be able to deliver a stable platform for ISV's to certify their code. RH's whole strategy with the Enterprise platform is to ensure that the platform remains a reasonably stable target for around three years. If you have a handful of servers or your desktops, and you only have basic packages, then go for the slightly more bleeding edge stuff, it'll work. I you have hundreds or thousands of servers to manage, and you need software from veritas, IBM etc, and you need in-house developers not to have to recompile everything every 6 months, then RHEL is probably a better bet.
Aint that the truth. There's a fine line between helping this thing die its inevitable death by posting all this stuff on groklaw, and giving attention to the noisy little child trying to throw a tantrum.
I'm not sure which side of the line we're on anymore...
It's my damned heart-beat. I can't remember the last time I last cr@pped myself playing a computer game. It's not the huge stuff, just the little details, face-hugged drones clawing their way to get you with their legs missing, weird poisonous little beasties *shudder*.
Forget bugs, my main problem with this game is having to put it down and retreat to somewhere with more light, and surround myself with crates, looking for a magnum...
There's a bunch of these. The one that springs to mind is Micrsoft's passport, and that got people all worked up. Partly I guess because it was Microsoft, but also because of privacy. Hence browsers with password managers, people seem to prefer that to having one password to rule them all.
Also for one of the stated goals - to ensure that people don't register several times - you need some confirmed data. So either a credit card I guess, or something more intrusive.
Just doesn't sound good to me at all....
I don't think it's worth arguing, this is a polemical discussion. I thought I'd deal with the personal attack though.
I'm guessing you are in pursuit of your liberal arts degree? Generally, liberal arts majors have a little more logic (albeit irrational logic) and substance to their arguments than you have presented here. At best you have show that you are not qualified to present an argument either way with regards to any subject you touched on.
bzzzt wrong. I have a degree in the liberal arts and a masters in comp sci.
There's no such thing as a universal truth. And it's not just the popularity of Moore's film that shows that what the right-wing media presents as such are very debateable as even majority opinion. Otherwise how d'you explain Chomsky's 9/11 book being in the top ten bestseller list in America for a year after the event?
How can you say that Moore has a worse agenda than Al Qaeda? How many innocent people has he killed? He isn't trying to destroy America, he's trying to polemicise an alternative point of view. And it is polemic, but for crying out loud, if speaking your mind and having alternative points of view is un-american, then I've misread the constitution somewhere.
If you want to talk about lies, then the ones he exposes are worth considering, shall I spell out a couple?
o Iraq has weapons of mass destruction.
o Iraq has a nuclear programme.
o Iraq represents a clear and present danger to the West.
o Osama bin Laden was not funded by the CIA.
o Osama bin Laden did not have links to the Bush family.
o The Bush administration was not in negotiations with the Taliban to create an oil pipeline through Afghanistan.
I'm not even going to respond to your assertion that Liberal arts degrees do not lead to a rounded world view, as it is at best ignorant.
Well of course it is fairly didactic. But then any film/book/newspaper etc etc with strong opinions is biased, and called "propaganda" by those who don't agree with it. People are just so used to more right-wing opinions that this seems to stand out a little more.
However, Moore is doing well as a populist Chomsky, and challenging people's conceptions, and to my mind, good for him, and good for the level of debate it creates. He manages to do what politicians keep failing to do - be funny, use the media well, and engage people in politics.
The fact that he's won the Palm D'Or shows what an appetite there is for such work, and the extent to which he strikes a chord with a lot of people. Yet if you believe the corp owned mainline press, you'd think he was a rabid loon that was way left field.
...but no! When I first installed a copy of SuSE years ago, one of the things I loved the most was that I could run different wm's and desktops depending on my mood. Even now, though I've been running kde pretty much exclusively for a couple of years, I've decided to take fluxbox for a spin on my gentoo box. At work I occasionally run gnome...
I simply don't understand this desire for one desktop to rule them all - have people been so used to microsoft for so often that having no options seems like the most natural thing to do?
It's like emacs vs vi... pico vs mutt... kmail vs evolution... mozilla vs konqueror vs IE - I like being able to choose a different editor/mail agent/browser depending on utility, circumstance or fancy.
Enough of this "you can have any desktop as long as it's black" nonsense.
Oh we're so close to dropping RH for SuSE... and guess what, we're an enterprise. What people seem to forget with enterprises is that sure, we have a business to think about, but the technical people who made this choice in the first place? Yup, we're the kind of people that get pissed off by these kinds of comments.
You don't suddenly become an automaton suit just because you're making technical choices for an enterprise. And anyway, look at the enterprise features that we want, and SuSE are suddenly starting to look like the better choice anyway. Maybe the story with all of this is that when you're chasing market share, often you end up with the better product and the better attitude...
That's just no true. We're replacing all our solaris web servers with linux. Especially the critical ones. Even if solaris were winning on the stability argument (and it just aint), the proce of the hardware means that with solaris, I've pretty much got to rely on the mythical stabilty of the one box. That's not a world I want to be in. With linux, I can at the very least buy two boxes, and manage stability myself more cheaply.
The maths is simple, even if you convince me that solaris is 5 times more stable than lintel, I'll just buy 6 boxes for a redundant solution, and still save money.
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It's the English language, which automatically makes the English right. The rest of you are just borrowing. So if the english say it's "colour" then that's the way it's spelt in English.
Hell, if they said you spelt it "zxhjshfdikd" then they'd still be right.
It seems that the poor servers couldn't take the strain. Amusing, a slashdot article *praising* microsoft for their *security* research, and the servers fall over when they have the opportunity to show off to what must be their most, uhm, sceptical audience.
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Free? No... but veritas cluster server works fairly well.
Obligatory disclaimer: I have no connection to veritas other thanusing their stuff.
Is there a special offer on suing technology firms at the moment? "Shopper, head to aisle 5, where you will find a team of lawyers armed with TLA's, right by canned goods"
Well, I'm suing Apple, Open, SCO, IBM, all you lot, and cowboy neal's mama. Hell, I'm suing my mom too, she uses computers, I betcha she's up to no good.
Pretty much the winner as far as we are concerned. AS is a platform the Oracles, Veritas's, Computer Associates (bleuch), EMC's, Emulex's etc etc etc devloper their code for. You can't run an enterprise on GNU + linux alone. And it's no good having something tha sorta works, it needs to be supported to work in the enterprise. At the end of the day, you need to be sure that there is a contract riding on a firm being able to fix something and meet you requirements, not just an interested dev. That goes for the distro too - hence AS for us, despite the fact none of us actually run the thing at home...
C'mon, -1 troll, surely. And your reaction hypothesis could just as easily be any other design process. First realise that there is nothing out there that does exactly what you want. Then design something that does what you want. Then find a whole bunch of people for whom your new thing solves a lot of their problems, but who have a whole heap more problems that it doesn't solve yet. Then your thing evolves.
That is pretty much how perl evolved, and for all your trollisms, there is still nothing that comes close for what it is used for. That you think PHP is for disillusioned perl programmers shows just how much you miss the point. PHP is a web page scripting language, which seems to me to have more in common with asp than perl. Perl has been used to produce dynamic web pages, but jeez, I've never produced a perl cgi in anger, and I use perl every day.
For my money, nfs in a LAN, afs over a WAN, it really depends on the size of the network your trying to play with.
Since openafs forked from the old transarc/IBM codebase, it looks as if it has a real future. It's used by a load of educational and research institutions (notably CERN), as well as Wall Street firms.
...yeah but you always have an afs superuser account. And with that you can add the account to the ACL, do what you want to, then remove from the ACL with no real audit trail.
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No, really. Consider the evidence, Billy Gates steals from the rich (via punative software licences), gives to the poor. With his trusty Little Steve Ballmer at his side, with the quarterstaff of a dodgy salesforce. Ok, so some SME's & govts might get hurt, but that's just collateral damage considering all the megacorps that are giving cash that gets spent fighting diease and poverty!
But that aint my point. I'm in IT cos I enjoy it. I'm a technologist, and I'm fascinated and motivated by what I do. Money isn't irrelevant, of course it isn't. But I have a good working life because I enjoy what I do, and my employer gets (hopefully) a better return because a happy worker produces better work. This isn't about a vow of poverty, this is about valuing the 40-70+ hours a week you spend doing something more than the cash you get for doing it.
So I will continue to look for those traits in the people I hire - you want people who believe in the cause, not mercenaries. Of course you want to reward the people who do good stuff, but we shouldn't promise everyone riches just for passing GO.
It's going to end up that the really smart and talented people end up going into other fields.
Isn't it better - for everyone - that people go into the fields they actually have a talent for?
Right... it's gotten harder to waltz in to an industry with very little to bring to the table. I interview a lot, predominantly grads into a fortune 100. It has gotten *easier* to hire people who are good, not because the market is saturated, but because I am getting less people who are pursuing a career in IT purely cos they think it will make them big bucks. I don't want those people, I want people who are interested in what they do. Otherwise, ultimately they are wasting my time, and their own careers. They won't stay long, and they won't enjoy the time they do spend.
Taking some of the "glamour" out will be better for the industry, and it will be a better fit for the people who choose to do this. Money is, or should, be a secondary concern for everyone involved - there are bigger priorities here.
Can you imagine human history without being able to use other people's good ideas? I mean even if it's not derived? "I'm sorry, you can't have that steam train - I represent the estate of the ancient greeks, and we have a patent on the steam engine."
Having said all that, accreditation is nice - aknowledge the work that people have done, it's cool that you are doing this. This is what polite people in academia do - just recognise the derivation of the idea, then use it with what you're doing.
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Having "older" versions of packages is exactly what you need to be able to deliver a stable platform for ISV's to certify their code. RH's whole strategy with the Enterprise platform is to ensure that the platform remains a reasonably stable target for around three years. If you have a handful of servers or your desktops, and you only have basic packages, then go for the slightly more bleeding edge stuff, it'll work. I you have hundreds or thousands of servers to manage, and you need software from veritas, IBM etc, and you need in-house developers not to have to recompile everything every 6 months, then RHEL is probably a better bet.
I'm not sure which side of the line we're on anymore...
Forget bugs, my main problem with this game is having to put it down and retreat to somewhere with more light, and surround myself with crates, looking for a magnum...
Microsoft should have this on the top of their webpage:
"There's a new major virus outbreak - premier subscribers can beat the rush and see it early!"
Here's hoping that if there are 3 sequels to the original, Lucas isn't involved...
Also for one of the stated goals - to ensure that people don't register several times - you need some confirmed data. So either a credit card I guess, or something more intrusive. Just doesn't sound good to me at all....
I'm guessing you are in pursuit of your liberal arts degree? Generally, liberal arts majors have a little more logic (albeit irrational logic) and substance to their arguments than you have presented here. At best you have show that you are not qualified to present an argument either way with regards to any subject you touched on.
bzzzt wrong. I have a degree in the liberal arts and a masters in comp sci.
How can you say that Moore has a worse agenda than Al Qaeda? How many innocent people has he killed? He isn't trying to destroy America, he's trying to polemicise an alternative point of view. And it is polemic, but for crying out loud, if speaking your mind and having alternative points of view is un-american, then I've misread the constitution somewhere.
If you want to talk about lies, then the ones he exposes are worth considering, shall I spell out a couple?
o Iraq has weapons of mass destruction.
o Iraq has a nuclear programme.
o Iraq represents a clear and present danger to the West.
o Osama bin Laden was not funded by the CIA.
o Osama bin Laden did not have links to the Bush family.
o The Bush administration was not in negotiations with the Taliban to create an oil pipeline through Afghanistan.
I'm not even going to respond to your assertion that Liberal arts degrees do not lead to a rounded world view, as it is at best ignorant.
However, Moore is doing well as a populist Chomsky, and challenging people's conceptions, and to my mind, good for him, and good for the level of debate it creates. He manages to do what politicians keep failing to do - be funny, use the media well, and engage people in politics.
The fact that he's won the Palm D'Or shows what an appetite there is for such work, and the extent to which he strikes a chord with a lot of people. Yet if you believe the corp owned mainline press, you'd think he was a rabid loon that was way left field.
Standard disclaimer: I have nothing to do with o'reilly, but I do like using their online book thingy.
I simply don't understand this desire for one desktop to rule them all - have people been so used to microsoft for so often that having no options seems like the most natural thing to do?
It's like emacs vs vi... pico vs mutt... kmail vs evolution... mozilla vs konqueror vs IE - I like being able to choose a different editor/mail agent/browser depending on utility, circumstance or fancy.
Enough of this "you can have any desktop as long as it's black" nonsense.
You don't suddenly become an automaton suit just because you're making technical choices for an enterprise. And anyway, look at the enterprise features that we want, and SuSE are suddenly starting to look like the better choice anyway. Maybe the story with all of this is that when you're chasing market share, often you end up with the better product and the better attitude...
The maths is simple, even if you convince me that solaris is 5 times more stable than lintel, I'll just buy 6 boxes for a redundant solution, and still save money.
It's the English language, which automatically makes the English right. The rest of you are just borrowing. So if the english say it's "colour" then that's the way it's spelt in English.
Hell, if they said you spelt it "zxhjshfdikd" then they'd still be right.
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Obligatory disclaimer: I have no connection to veritas other thanusing their stuff.
Well, I'm suing Apple, Open, SCO, IBM, all you lot, and cowboy neal's mama. Hell, I'm suing my mom too, she uses computers, I betcha she's up to no good.
Pretty much the winner as far as we are concerned. AS is a platform the Oracles, Veritas's, Computer Associates (bleuch), EMC's, Emulex's etc etc etc devloper their code for. You can't run an enterprise on GNU + linux alone. And it's no good having something tha sorta works, it needs to be supported to work in the enterprise. At the end of the day, you need to be sure that there is a contract riding on a firm being able to fix something and meet you requirements, not just an interested dev. That goes for the distro too - hence AS for us, despite the fact none of us actually run the thing at home...
That is pretty much how perl evolved, and for all your trollisms, there is still nothing that comes close for what it is used for. That you think PHP is for disillusioned perl programmers shows just how much you miss the point. PHP is a web page scripting language, which seems to me to have more in common with asp than perl. Perl has been used to produce dynamic web pages, but jeez, I've never produced a perl cgi in anger, and I use perl every day.
Since openafs forked from the old transarc/IBM codebase, it looks as if it has a real future. It's used by a load of educational and research institutions (notably CERN), as well as Wall Street firms.
...yeah but you always have an afs superuser account. And with that you can add the account to the ACL, do what you want to, then remove from the ACL with no real audit trail.