Ahh, you might not remember but Apple getting the MPAA blessing to sell digital music in the first place was a huge deal. I'm sure there were lots of restrictions put in place on MPAA's behalf. Apple was more than happy to jump to drm-free files when they could.
Even WinAmp can sync to an iPod these days, and has for a good long while now.
Yup. Instead of thinking "oh, the sync got messed up, let me check the files" it's "Apple selling music without paying out, gets worried about getting caught and going in to wipe out everyone's itunes library"? Really?
Oh, and no decent backup plan going? Yup, Apple's fault too. If only one could request to re-download their purchases a few times, I wonder if Apple will come up with a clever thing like that?
Which, when bought using a common file type (sorry OGG) from a non-DRM'd source you could ALWAYS add to your itunes library and send to any of your ipods? Those ones?
I know it's cool to hate on Apple, but at least stick to some facts.
Ahh, crap, didn't realize I wasn't logged in. Above post is mine.
Doesn't really matter I suppose, but was complaining about anons flooding/. and other places anytime GG comes up, so didn't want to be part of the problem.
And you seriously hold the gaming press to that level? Not even 'regular' press are anywhere near that. Is all of GG under 12, or just not living in the real world?
The gaming press is Entertainment Tonight, not the New York Times.
So that made it ok to send out death threats and harass her? No one is arguing that she's a saint.
The original 'outrage' was that she slept with the reviewer, so why was all this directed at her, the reviewer was supposed to be the one breaking ethics, which is what things are clearly about, right?
Who in their right mind would buy a products sight unseen though? Just based on a few youtube videos?
That is just crazy!
At least with a car or new McD's sandwich there are some safety and health codes that the companies mostly adhere to, but with gaming there is nothing, not even Nintendo's Seal of Approval anymore.
Publication embargoes are standard in just about every industry, hell even publicly funded research includes them so that journalists have time to prepare the story and then publish it at the same time.
Sorry, GG, if you've got this, and the fact that some people on youtube give favourable reviews to products they get for free then you really are not bringing anything new to light.
The fact that the more confident a company is in their product tends to translates into an earlier embargo release prior to product release date is nothing new. At all.
If you really want that pink version of a sword then go ahead and pre-order, but don't get outraged when the shipping product is a mess, it's a choice you make knowing the risks. Remember the mess that AC4 was? with floating ships and all that? Yeah, did you really think that the new version that's build on a moderately-new engine would turn out better?
Literally. It's Bow and Arrow time.
Wouldn't it just be cheaper to mandate that school uniforms include bulletproof vests or something just slightly less crazy. Whatever happened to metal detectors at all entrances?
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On a slightly different note, the actual tech for detecting the shots is pretty cool, when used in its proper context.
I think the people involved can distinguish between "omg I'm going to kill you fa**ot" and "I'm sitting on your steps with a knife at 123 Avenue Road waiting for your kids to come out"
I have no idea what the actual threats were, but I really doubt that anyone involved would have gone to the police with only 'you suxxorz'.
You have valid points, but you didn't read the article... here is the appropriate bit...
Gendered bigotry against women is widely considered to be “in bounds” by Internet commenters (whether they openly acknowledge it or not), and subsequently a demographic that comprises half of the total human population has to worry about receiving rape threats, death threats, and the harassment of angry mobs simply for expressing their opinions. This needs to stop, and while it’s impossible to prevent all forms of harassment from occurring online, we can start by creating a culture that shames individuals who cross the bounds of decency.
We can start by stating the obvious: It is never appropriate to use slurs, metaphors, graphic negative imagery, or any other kind of language that plays on someone’s gender, race/ethnicity, sexual orientation, or religion. Not only is such language inappropriate regardless of one’s passion on a given subject, but any valid arguments that existed independently of such rhetoric should have been initially presented without it. Once a poster crosses this line, they should lose all credibility.
Similarly, it is never acceptable to dox, harass, post nude pictures, or in any other way violate someone’s privacy due to disagreement with their opinions. While most people would probably agree with this in theory, far too many are willing to access and distribute this humiliating (and often illegal) content. Instead of simply viewing stories of doxing, slut-shaming, and other forms of online intimidation as an unfortunate by-product of the digital age, we should boycott all sites that publish these materials.
If there's one thing I've learned about GG is that they just can't read..
abigsmurf: Journalists are covering GG death threat stuff, but they gave no sh*ts about Jack Thompson or the Penny Arcade guys, and were like 'yeah, they deserved it' AmiMoJo: Strawman! No one is arguing that it's ok to threaten men. serviscope_minor: It's not a strawman, its just plain bullsh*t. The threats against Thompson and Penny Arcade were not ignored, so abigsmurf's point just just made up. you: oh, let me passive-agressively bring up Quin and Sarkeesian back into this.
What does this have to do with the discussion at hand? I though y'all were about ethics and not Quin And Sarkeesian, but here you are just dragging them back in for absolutely no reason.
Bonus points: someone writes an editorial article, so it must represent what all journalists are thinking right?
That sounds like Leigh Alexander's Gamasutra article. If it is, you should re-read. It is not greatly written, no question, but it is not about gamers as a whole.
It's about the minor "realz gamerz broz" demographic that has fun doxxing people, is as offensive as possible on game chat (hello xbox live) etc etc. If anyone else had these kinds of fans (major sports for example) they would get put in their place quick, but because it's gaming its been overlooked so far. That is the point of the article.
Ok, first... extremely liberal... hahah ha lol good one.
Second, if corporations have shown themselves incapable of doing their job then what is are his options? You can't seriously be supporting the status quo?
But if a large number of users are not able to use their devices properly (ie. secure them) is that not the fault of the device maker? This isn't even about strong passwords, but just default passwords.
It's a known fact that the general public is not security conscious, and that they do not read through manuals. Shouldn't the makers of these systems work towards making some basic security the default?
The best, but not very good example is Windows. Microsoft provides lots of guidance on how not to get viruses or malware on Windows. Does that mean they get to wash their hands of anything that infects their user's machines when they open powerpoint slides from uncle Bob? Technically yes, but they do have some duty to make their product more secure because they know full well a large number (the majority) of people will click on any link that lands in their inbox.
Hey, so the DMCA now supports 'real' terrorism, not just the corporate kind.
Google really should stop rubbber-stamping all take down requests, at least have humans look at the more unusual ones.
If this is real, can we write to all members of congress that supported the DMCA asking them why they support Al Quaeda/Whichever group is behind this.
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Ahh, you might not remember but Apple getting the MPAA blessing to sell digital music in the first place was a huge deal. I'm sure there were lots of restrictions put in place on MPAA's behalf. Apple was more than happy to jump to drm-free files when they could.
Even WinAmp can sync to an iPod these days, and has for a good long while now.
Yup. Instead of thinking "oh, the sync got messed up, let me check the files" it's "Apple selling music without paying out, gets worried about getting caught and going in to wipe out everyone's itunes library"? Really?
Oh, and no decent backup plan going? Yup, Apple's fault too. If only one could request to re-download their purchases a few times, I wonder if Apple will come up with a clever thing like that?
You mean Apple has been waiting 5+ years for U2 to put the album together and has been reserving space on everyone's device for it all that time?
I heard all those exploding phones over the eyars were playing Justin Bieber at the time of destruction. Just sayin'
Which, when bought using a common file type (sorry OGG) from a non-DRM'd source you could ALWAYS add to your itunes library and send to any of your ipods? Those ones?
I know it's cool to hate on Apple, but at least stick to some facts.
So y'all are seriously backing Real Networks on this? How quickly have you forgotten.
Forget it then, I'm going back to watching (american) football.
Coward isn't the only one, mine hasn't received it either. My Nexus4 just got it last week.
Though from the sounds of it, it's well advised to wait for a .1 release to come out.
Could be half Russian half Israeli NSA contractor working in Korea.
I'm guessing the video in question will be Jobs holding up both his middle fingers, dropping the mic, and walking off.
Did you copy and paste this from ten years ago? Even WinAmp can sync up with an iPod these days.
Ahh, crap, didn't realize I wasn't logged in. Above post is mine.
Doesn't really matter I suppose, but was complaining about anons flooding /. and other places anytime GG comes up, so didn't want to be part of the problem.
And you seriously hold the gaming press to that level? Not even 'regular' press are anywhere near that. Is all of GG under 12, or just not living in the real world?
The gaming press is Entertainment Tonight, not the New York Times.
So that made it ok to send out death threats and harass her? No one is arguing that she's a saint.
The original 'outrage' was that she slept with the reviewer, so why was all this directed at her, the reviewer was supposed to be the one breaking ethics, which is what things are clearly about, right?
Who in their right mind would buy a products sight unseen though? Just based on a few youtube videos?
That is just crazy!
At least with a car or new McD's sandwich there are some safety and health codes that the companies mostly adhere to, but with gaming there is nothing, not even Nintendo's Seal of Approval anymore.
Publication embargoes are standard in just about every industry, hell even publicly funded research includes them so that journalists have time to prepare the story and then publish it at the same time.
Sorry, GG, if you've got this, and the fact that some people on youtube give favourable reviews to products they get for free then you really are not bringing anything new to light.
The fact that the more confident a company is in their product tends to translates into an earlier embargo release prior to product release date is nothing new. At all.
If you really want that pink version of a sword then go ahead and pre-order, but don't get outraged when the shipping product is a mess, it's a choice you make knowing the risks. Remember the mess that AC4 was? with floating ships and all that? Yeah, did you really think that the new version that's build on a moderately-new engine would turn out better?
Literally. It's Bow and Arrow time. Wouldn't it just be cheaper to mandate that school uniforms include bulletproof vests or something just slightly less crazy. Whatever happened to metal detectors at all entrances? --- On a slightly different note, the actual tech for detecting the shots is pretty cool, when used in its proper context.
I think the people involved can distinguish between "omg I'm going to kill you fa**ot" and "I'm sitting on your steps with a knife at 123 Avenue Road waiting for your kids to come out" I have no idea what the actual threats were, but I really doubt that anyone involved would have gone to the police with only 'you suxxorz'.
You have valid points, but you didn't read the article... here is the appropriate bit...
Gendered bigotry against women is widely considered to be “in bounds” by Internet commenters (whether they openly acknowledge it or not), and subsequently a demographic that comprises half of the total human population has to worry about receiving rape threats, death threats, and the harassment of angry mobs simply for expressing their opinions. This needs to stop, and while it’s impossible to prevent all forms of harassment from occurring online, we can start by creating a culture that shames individuals who cross the bounds of decency.
We can start by stating the obvious: It is never appropriate to use slurs, metaphors, graphic negative imagery, or any other kind of language that plays on someone’s gender, race/ethnicity, sexual orientation, or religion. Not only is such language inappropriate regardless of one’s passion on a given subject, but any valid arguments that existed independently of such rhetoric should have been initially presented without it. Once a poster crosses this line, they should lose all credibility.
Similarly, it is never acceptable to dox, harass, post nude pictures, or in any other way violate someone’s privacy due to disagreement with their opinions. While most people would probably agree with this in theory, far too many are willing to access and distribute this humiliating (and often illegal) content. Instead of simply viewing stories of doxing, slut-shaming, and other forms of online intimidation as an unfortunate by-product of the digital age, we should boycott all sites that publish these materials.
If there's one thing I've learned about GG is that they just can't read..
abigsmurf: Journalists are covering GG death threat stuff, but they gave no sh*ts about Jack Thompson or the Penny Arcade guys, and were like 'yeah, they deserved it'
AmiMoJo: Strawman! No one is arguing that it's ok to threaten men.
serviscope_minor: It's not a strawman, its just plain bullsh*t. The threats against Thompson and Penny Arcade were not ignored, so abigsmurf's point just just made up.
you: oh, let me passive-agressively bring up Quin and Sarkeesian back into this.
What does this have to do with the discussion at hand? I though y'all were about ethics and not Quin And Sarkeesian, but here you are just dragging them back in for absolutely no reason.
Bonus points: someone writes an editorial article, so it must represent what all journalists are thinking right?
That sounds like Leigh Alexander's Gamasutra article. If it is, you should re-read. It is not greatly written, no question, but it is not about gamers as a whole.
It's about the minor "realz gamerz broz" demographic that has fun doxxing people, is as offensive as possible on game chat (hello xbox live) etc etc. If anyone else had these kinds of fans (major sports for example) they would get put in their place quick, but because it's gaming its been overlooked so far. That is the point of the article.
You know, getting rid of smoking from patios is great. BC's had it for a few years and its fine, apocalypse didn't happen and people adjusted.
It's not about getting you to stop smoking, it's about other people, including staff, not inhaling your second hand sh*t.
Ok, first... extremely liberal... hahah ha lol good one.
Second, if corporations have shown themselves incapable of doing their job then what is are his options? You can't seriously be supporting the status quo?
But if a large number of users are not able to use their devices properly (ie. secure them) is that not the fault of the device maker? This isn't even about strong passwords, but just default passwords.
It's a known fact that the general public is not security conscious, and that they do not read through manuals. Shouldn't the makers of these systems work towards making some basic security the default?
The best, but not very good example is Windows. Microsoft provides lots of guidance on how not to get viruses or malware on Windows. Does that mean they get to wash their hands of anything that infects their user's machines when they open powerpoint slides from uncle Bob? Technically yes, but they do have some duty to make their product more secure because they know full well a large number (the majority) of people will click on any link that lands in their inbox.
Hey, so the DMCA now supports 'real' terrorism, not just the corporate kind.
Google really should stop rubbber-stamping all take down requests, at least have humans look at the more unusual ones.
If this is real, can we write to all members of congress that supported the DMCA asking them why they support Al Quaeda/Whichever group is behind this.