I do hope that this does happen. If my card all of a sudden was putting through a credit-maxing transaction it would send off all sorts of alarm bells at my CC company. If there is one entity that could shut this whole civil forfeiture sh**t down (Jesus Christ America, how is this even a thing) it would be the banks.
I don't think the cops could coerce you into getting your signature or PIN, but they could take your card. You would just have to dispute the $30,000 dollar transaction and let the bank have fun with the police department.
You should probably re-read or check your link. The linked article is "Apple Said to Reap Fees From Banks in New Payment System", and it states that Apple will collect a fee... from the banks.
"In an online introduction to Apple Pay, the company said it won’t charge users, merchants or developers for transactions. Spokesmen for JPMorgan, Bank of America and Citigroup declined to comment on the terms of their deals."
If Apple decides to shoulder some of the responsibility of transactions, the banks would probably be happy enough to give them a cut of their share.
... just like Google Wallet is, just like any and all bank apps are. What exactly is your point? The OP didn't want Apple to be the sole vendor controlling payment methods, which is not at all in the cards with Apple Pay.
My work land-line phone won't connect to Skype, Hangouts, or Facetime, or whatever Facebook is calling their thing, even though they all use a speaker and microphone. Yes, your RFID card comparison makes no sense.
Can't speak to post-soviet-countries, but here in North America. If someone uses your card for a purchase, you can dispute that with your bank/credit card company. Most of the time it's double billing etc, and for that the bank/cc will go to the retailer and ask for proof of purchase. If there is no receipt, or signatures don't match, you get your money back. The bank also monitors your card usage for out-of-ordinary patters - ie. your card was just used in a different country/state, and will actively reach out to you - yes, I have gotten calls at 11:00 at night because of this.
If someone steals your card and your PIN, then you are probably in trouble, but that is much less likely than someone making off with card number only. I haven't experienced this yet.
I know full well this is all because of state/country laws, and not the bank or CC company's good will, but it's still something. This whole CurrentC doesn't seem to give the consumer anything.
Does/. have a list of random anti-Apple click-bait posts queued up that get posted when the site traffic starts to slow down? Haven't we been over this a good dozen times already?
Can't wait for the iFart and Android! Android! Android! posts.
Most of that doesn't matter though. Apple's supply/repair chain is setup for replacing big chunks of the computer rather than individual parts. Yes, it's quite a bit more overhead, but Apple is willing to swallow that, so to the end user it doesn't matter.
Ie. web cam: dell/generic pc: separate monitor half of laptop from body, upen it up, pull out faulty web cam, insert new webcam, close up, test, reconnect to body. done. apple: separate monitor half of laptop from body, take replacement monitor half and reconnect to body. test. done.
The whole industry is heading this way, Apple just happens to be at the forefront. The modular PC is slowly going away, mostly because things are 'good enough' for the majority of people. Some things have tangible benefits - ie. having the LCD fused to the glass makes the screen much 'nicer' looking (imho).
I remember when every PC component was an separate card - Audio, LAN, Modem - that is long gone and almost everyone is just fine with the built-in options on their motherboards. Where was the outrage when this happened?
While yes, Samsung sure is trying hard to beat Apple, I think this is more about them being worried about their future with Android.
Google has been reigning things in and requiring their services (play, search, etc) to be on Android phones. Samsung doesn't like this because they have their own version of just about everything. They are also big enough that they could just off the Android bandwagon and take a good number of customers with them (mostly the ones that walk into stores and 'need one of em' galaxies'). They have their own app store, own versions of just about all 'default' apps (browser, email, etc), recently partnered with Nokia for Here maps (or whatever it's called nowdays) and now they're looking to not need Google for voice commands.
It could also be an easy way to get Tizen up to speed, matching Android on features. Because if there's one thing that Samsung is known for its their software talents.
If nothing else, this is a pretty cheap way to keep bulling Google into keeping Android to Samsung's liking.
Wait, who in the world designed a security checkpoint that can be walked through in a single line without bumping into anyone or anything? Is this not on the most basic level something a checkpoint should be designed to prevent?
Not sure if the checkpoint designer is incompetent or brilliant.
How else will everyone make money if not through Apple link-bait articles. Just think of how much money is going to be made only by the "your're holding/storing it wrong" comments.
Don't trust the Russians. They're after our bodily fluids, this is just the first step. Alien plankton on ISS found... plankton also in sea... sea water evaporates... all water is contaminated. There's a reason they only drink vodka.
-- dammit, I can't think of an actual quote from the movie.
You just haven't seen a movie the way the director intended, until you've seen in on a 10 inch tablet in 800ppi at an airport. Now, how do I get this 160 gig movie on there.
So the complaint is essentially the same as one would have for a brick and mortar store. There is limited capacity to store or showcase content so only the most popular items get to the top/on the shelves.
I really don't think there is any way around this, unless you have a team of people going through and creating personal lists. Even if you allowed people to create their own 'playlists' of apps it would be full of angry birds or whatever the kids are into. Any 'related' suggestions will still be based around general popularity of an app so it still doesn't help.
Really, it comes down to you not liking what the majority of the app store customers like.
Hahahaha... Yeah... good luck with getting an 'open' os and apps onto a Schools network. I assume you decry the filtering and locking down of computers at all businesses nationwide as well right?
For computer related classes, sure give them some open (software & hardware) computers to go crazy with, but you'd be mad to let those onto the school-wide network.
We, the customers, are paying exactly for this kind of one-sided agreement though. Pretty much every residential internet connection is heavily biased towards download speeds vs. upload speeds. That means that the ISP (Verizon) knows that traffic is very one-sided, and the cost of making sure the 'pipes flow smoohtly' is just part of how they should be running their business.
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Really, another one?
Good thing I'm getting an Android Wear watch, not like those Apple sheeples and their 1 day battery life, pffft.
aka, why does an article single out Apple for a problem inherent in the entire product category?
I do hope that this does happen. If my card all of a sudden was putting through a credit-maxing transaction it would send off all sorts of alarm bells at my CC company. If there is one entity that could shut this whole civil forfeiture sh**t down (Jesus Christ America, how is this even a thing) it would be the banks.
I don't think the cops could coerce you into getting your signature or PIN, but they could take your card. You would just have to dispute the $30,000 dollar transaction and let the bank have fun with the police department.
You should probably re-read or check your link. The linked article is "Apple Said to Reap Fees From Banks in New Payment System", and it states that Apple will collect a fee... from the banks.
"In an online introduction to Apple Pay, the company said it won’t charge users, merchants or developers for transactions. Spokesmen for JPMorgan, Bank of America and Citigroup declined to comment on the terms of their deals."
If Apple decides to shoulder some of the responsibility of transactions, the banks would probably be happy enough to give them a cut of their share.
... just like Google Wallet is, just like any and all bank apps are. What exactly is your point? The OP didn't want Apple to be the sole vendor controlling payment methods, which is not at all in the cards with Apple Pay.
My work land-line phone won't connect to Skype, Hangouts, or Facetime, or whatever Facebook is calling their thing, even though they all use a speaker and microphone. Yes, your RFID card comparison makes no sense.
Can't speak to post-soviet-countries, but here in North America. If someone uses your card for a purchase, you can dispute that with your bank/credit card company. Most of the time it's double billing etc, and for that the bank/cc will go to the retailer and ask for proof of purchase. If there is no receipt, or signatures don't match, you get your money back. The bank also monitors your card usage for out-of-ordinary patters - ie. your card was just used in a different country/state, and will actively reach out to you - yes, I have gotten calls at 11:00 at night because of this.
If someone steals your card and your PIN, then you are probably in trouble, but that is much less likely than someone making off with card number only. I haven't experienced this yet.
I know full well this is all because of state/country laws, and not the bank or CC company's good will, but it's still something. This whole CurrentC doesn't seem to give the consumer anything.
Does /. have a list of random anti-Apple click-bait posts queued up that get posted when the site traffic starts to slow down? Haven't we been over this a good dozen times already?
Can't wait for the iFart and Android! Android! Android! posts.
Most of that doesn't matter though. Apple's supply/repair chain is setup for replacing big chunks of the computer rather than individual parts. Yes, it's quite a bit more overhead, but Apple is willing to swallow that, so to the end user it doesn't matter.
Ie. web cam:
dell/generic pc: separate monitor half of laptop from body, upen it up, pull out faulty web cam, insert new webcam, close up, test, reconnect to body. done.
apple: separate monitor half of laptop from body, take replacement monitor half and reconnect to body. test. done.
The whole industry is heading this way, Apple just happens to be at the forefront. The modular PC is slowly going away, mostly because things are 'good enough' for the majority of people. Some things have tangible benefits - ie. having the LCD fused to the glass makes the screen much 'nicer' looking (imho).
I remember when every PC component was an separate card - Audio, LAN, Modem - that is long gone and almost everyone is just fine with the built-in options on their motherboards. Where was the outrage when this happened?
I'm probably just getting old, but what is up with all the youngsters these days always talking about how email is broken?
While yes, Samsung sure is trying hard to beat Apple, I think this is more about them being worried about their future with Android.
Google has been reigning things in and requiring their services (play, search, etc) to be on Android phones. Samsung doesn't like this because they have their own version of just about everything. They are also big enough that they could just off the Android bandwagon and take a good number of customers with them (mostly the ones that walk into stores and 'need one of em' galaxies'). They have their own app store, own versions of just about all 'default' apps (browser, email, etc), recently partnered with Nokia for Here maps (or whatever it's called nowdays) and now they're looking to not need Google for voice commands.
It could also be an easy way to get Tizen up to speed, matching Android on features. Because if there's one thing that Samsung is known for its their software talents.
If nothing else, this is a pretty cheap way to keep bulling Google into keeping Android to Samsung's liking.
I think I'd rather go with an tablet/phone screen over airport security, thanks.
Wait, who in the world designed a security checkpoint that can be walked through in a single line without bumping into anyone or anything? Is this not on the most basic level something a checkpoint should be designed to prevent?
Not sure if the checkpoint designer is incompetent or brilliant.
I think this will be like Google touting Android's smoothness for few straight releases, telling us each time it's finally really smooth. :-)
Be prepared to see "new and improved unified experience" for at lest another couple versions.
How else will everyone make money if not through Apple link-bait articles. Just think of how much money is going to be made only by the "your're holding/storing it wrong" comments.
It might be even be enough to fix ./ Beta.
Oh, you mean the one that used to have 'stupid' limitations like 200Mb max individual file-size? It might have even been 50.
Don't trust the Russians. They're after our bodily fluids, this is just the first step. Alien plankton on ISS found... plankton also in sea... sea water evaporates... all water is contaminated. There's a reason they only drink vodka.
-- dammit, I can't think of an actual quote from the movie.
You just haven't seen a movie the way the director intended, until you've seen in on a 10 inch tablet in 800ppi at an airport. Now, how do I get this 160 gig movie on there.
So the complaint is essentially the same as one would have for a brick and mortar store. There is limited capacity to store or showcase content so only the most popular items get to the top/on the shelves.
I really don't think there is any way around this, unless you have a team of people going through and creating personal lists. Even if you allowed people to create their own 'playlists' of apps it would be full of angry birds or whatever the kids are into. Any 'related' suggestions will still be based around general popularity of an app so it still doesn't help.
Really, it comes down to you not liking what the majority of the app store customers like.
Hahahaha... Yeah... good luck with getting an 'open' os and apps onto a Schools network. I assume you decry the filtering and locking down of computers at all businesses nationwide as well right?
For computer related classes, sure give them some open (software & hardware) computers to go crazy with, but you'd be mad to let those onto the school-wide network.
We, the customers, are paying exactly for this kind of one-sided agreement though. Pretty much every residential internet connection is heavily biased towards download speeds vs. upload speeds. That means that the ISP (Verizon) knows that traffic is very one-sided, and the cost of making sure the 'pipes flow smoohtly' is just part of how they should be running their business.
That's really good, you're making great progress. keep at it old boy!
Should I just stay off /. for the next three months while every single quote from WWDC gets posted for the benefit of pageviews and ad impressions?
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I'm sure Samsung will release something anyday now. They have a few tiny holes left in their product lineup. :)
Translation: We've been trying to get Apple's business for the past few years without luck. Time to see if Google will bite.
And really, they noticed Google Glass only now?
The exact things applied to the original iPhone. And while we all grumbled about Palm Pilots and Windows Mobiles, the world took notice.