I think he really has hit the nail on the head. Tabs aren't for everyone, but its stupid for someone building a browser to not implement them. If I were to hypothetically speaking gotten my hands on v64 build of Safari, I would hypothetically know that tabs are being implemented like Dave describes
I agree completely.. hypotheticaly speaking, of course.. =)
Having tabs in Safari would rock.. but how would I know, really..?
This is a sad double standard being applied to "unwanted" emails. The KKK and the NOI can publicly advertise their unwanted speech because the First Amendment protects them. They cannot be barred from advertising in newspapers, they cannot be barred from advertising on billboards, and they cannot be barred from posting in open forums. But spammers don't have these rights?
if they're purposefully falsifying their identity when spamming.. then you bet your ass they shouldn't have that right. That goes for all spammers. They should be required to use accurate 'from' information and severely punished for using/taking over some poor bastard's personal email address in an effort to cloak thier true idendity.
that said.. true identity or not, Apple Mail has been doing a fantastic job of screening my email. I get about 350 per week flagged and sent to the 'spam' folder. I'd say it's about 98% accurate. Then they're deleted after a 7 day hold, in case a legitimate email was to have been tagged wrong.
Actually, this is useful on a person by person basis. I can tell it which songs I like, and it can pre-scan new music and decide what I'm more likely to enjoy.
But, you see.. becuase we're the all knowing music industry, we'll simply tell you what to like instead. Then you wont have to put forth any effort at all. We know what's best for you.
Sounds like my iPod will be getting even more use pretty soon. Boy, they're doing a fatanstic job of making me never want to turn on the radio again. Keep it up guys.. dorks
That said, iTunes does a reasonable job keeping track of most frequently played, most recently played, most ignored tracks.. though it wont 'recommend' other tracks based on your preferences. Would be cool to use that feature online for bands/material I've not heard before.
Sync'ing the bookmarks across.Mac connected systems. One bookmark file. Always managed. Always the same.
Absolutely.. This is the feature that I'm waiting on more than anything else. Heck i could even tolerate multiple windows vs. tabs if I could just keep a single bookmark file sync'ed across.Mac
Makes sense that they'd do this to bolster the 'you need.Mac' argument. Hope its coming soon..
Aesthetics can really add to the experience, if elitists would stop and realize it instead of obsessing over copying every single thing in Windows and adding "G" or "K" to the beginning of their program names.
... or perhaps the letter "i" =)
kidding.. i'm a big os x supporter, but this iThis and iThat was getting out of control... good to see them getting away from that now with Safari, Keynote, etc. .
My friend who had used Macs since he was 10 switched to the PC because Macs were just too fucking slow.
too slow for what?.. that kind of a blanket statement really needs to be qualified. Too slow to check your email, too slow to run MS Office, too slow to play games.. what? Are we talking about an iBook or an xServe? For some tasks, Macs are significantly faster than PCs, so this is pretty much a useless argument that others use to prop up their preferred platform, and both sides are equally guilty of doing it. At some point (sooner than you think), speed will be nearly irrelevant for 90%+ of consumers.. what then?.. checking email and surfing at 5Ghz??? Why??! It's the same as surfing at 3Ghz, is the same as 2.2GHz, etc.. The selling point will shift (is shifting) to 'how well can I get my stuff done', 'does the gui impede my work or does it stay out of my way', etc..
There will always be those needing every cycle they can possibly squeeze out of their processor.. fine. For some of them, it will come from the x86 camp.. Others will get faster performance from G4s and G5s for their line of work. You may want to revisit your statement.
Additionally, I was really, really disappointed by MacOS X's interface. The MacOS had such a great interface, and now it's as lame as Windows.
i'd really like to assume that you're kidding about this.. Windows is YEARS behind Apple in this area. The OS X gui (quartz, aqua, openGL, etc), while not to everyone's particular taste, can do more than anything I've ever seen come out of Redmond. Now, maybe XP is 'better' than previous Windows gui's,.. but Christ, how hard is that to do?!..
Feb 12 13:39:27 warthog sendmail[21909]: h1CIdQK21909: dclark@mydomain.com>... User unknown
Feb 12 13:39:27 warthog sendmail[21909]: h1CIdQK21909: paladin@mydomain.com>... User unknown
Feb 12 13:39:27 warthog sendmail[21909]: h1CIdQK21909: mbrown@mydomain.com>... User unknown
snip...
yeah.. i've noticed this myself.. a quick 'grep' on the maillog shows 501 of these random guesses since midnight (about 14.5 hours ago)
unreal..
our server does reverse lookups before delivering mail.. it's nice to be part of the solution...
..but it really looks like an honest typo in the style sheet.
if microsoft had been even remotely honest about something, anything, in the past.. maybe folks would be less likey to jump all over their ass for something like this.. myslef included. I don't trust that company to do anything other than what's in the interest of preserving their (albeit fading) grip on the industry. For all their recent blabbing about better security and better standards support, i've seen nothing of the kind.
I can confirm this.. thanks for the tip..
I'm running on a slightly dated PowerBook (550, 256K L2, no L3 cache), and attributed the sluggish scrolling of a few hundred pics to my PowerBook specs.. Much faster now with the shadows off..Thank you
Change for either of these entities means smaller profit margins or annihilation altogether. With the billions these corporations have stockpiled they are taking our freedoms (by bribes) in order to protect their exsistance. but this is only understandable. whouldn't you, given that situation do the same to protect your fortune?
No, I wouldn't.. If the only lame ass way I could manage to grow or protect my business was to go about destroying any competing idea/business model, instead of being so good making *my own* widget that people actually *wanted* to buy from me instead.. then no, I'd never have gotten into that or any other business.. as it would simply be a reflection on how pathetic i was at running one.
There is nothing wrong with putting more locks on your house.
Sure you (or the recording industry) can put as many locks on as you like, but if i *really* want into your house badly enough, I'll find a way in.. even if i have to drive a car through the front door. This is why the industry is fighting a losing battle. It was over before they even started fighting. They don't have the talent/resources to stay ahead of the masses. Sure, they can make a particular P2P service more inconvenient, but there will always be plenty of public and/or trusted private sources from which to dowload. And if/when the signal to noise ratio gets bad enough, people will simply invent or find another way to do it... then what? How many times will they go through this before reality begins to sink in?
"Its good to see a review from a PC centric publication address this, however minimally. Apple has long talked about the Megahertz Myth while the PC world has largely equated more MHZ meaning faster, when in reality its not that simple. I wonder if this will be a continued trend."
I'd like to believe that the PC world might be (finally) acknowledging the MHz issue because they becoming more enlightened.. but sadly, I suspect that it has more to do with next generation Intel, etc processors coming out at lower clock speeds than current ones.. b/c then they'll then be fighting the same consumer perception (more MHz is always faster) that Apple's been fighting now for years.
When those next gen chips do come out, it will be interesting to hear the reason why Intel (et al) ends up saying that MHz suddenly no longer matters.. I mean, did it only matter when it was convenient for them?? Which is it, does it matter or not?
With the next gen IBM Power chips going into Macs this year and at *faster* clock speeds, Apple could stand to make up some ground in the perception war. =)
yes, many of them do have listening stations where you either hand the CD to a clerk to spin for you..OR, some listening stations have barcode scanners where you just 'scan' the UPC and it begins playing an excerpt of that album/track.. very nice. When I buy, I try to do so from stores with this service.
god bless 'em (the record stores) for beginning to figure this much out.., however the record LABELS, sadly, would rather legislate their continued existence/monopoly rather than adjust their business practices. What kills me is that lots of other established markets have found a way to coexist with the Internet. That the RIAA can't seem to (cough, bulls#it!, cough) is indicative of their not *wanting* to. They know what needs to be done/what their consumers want.., they just don't f*cking care.. they don't have to.., yet. That day is coming though, they can cover their ears and eyes and scream all they want, but it IS coming.
The RIAA's opinion that all P2P should simply be abolished isn't the answer. I don't see anything at all wrong with downloading some tracks from a P2P service to 'try before i buy', provided I either 'buy' the CD or trash the downloaded tracks. The web is to me is just an extension of that 'listening station' at the record store.
I suppose I should've been a little more specific.. I was speaking to the visual aspects of OS X much more so than performance. Granted in 10.1.x, performance has been pretty disappointing, but there are some significant improvements in Jag. In build 6C106, lots of things are more responsive now on my Ti 550 with 16MB video, so I suspect your experience will be even better on your 667.
Regarding the multiple windows/multiple apps and minimizing to the dock.., there are utilities available that should 'pin' the dock to a corner and others that create groups of windows/virutal dekstops. I would imagine Apple might consider adding those features at some point. I'd like to see some of those things myself.
I'm very happy with Mozilla in OS 9 on one of my other Macs, but I still wont get near it in OS X, eveything about it is too slow yet.., the cursor lagging behind as you mentioned, even in the recent build of Jag. I don't see any of this lag in Omniweb or IE though.. I do hope Mozilla eventually gets to be as responsive it as it is currently in OS 9. I'd love to use it in OS X.
I'd mod you up if you weren't already at 5, because I think you've nailed what Apple is doing/where they're going with the GUI in OSX. God knows MS isn't going to get us there. Let's both hope this new environment ultimately comes to pass.., and soon. Hell, the current GUI is already way ahead of anything else I've seen, but if they really get going with OpenGL as they appear to be doing, it's going to make other stuff (XP, et al) look even worse that it does already. Hehe.
Apple is listening regarding the antialiasing. The upcoming 10.2 has 4 levels of smoothing (at least it does in the build i have). Here's how they're listed in system prefs:
Standard - best for CRT Light Medium - best for flat panel Strong
Then, there's also 'turn off smoothing for sizes smaller than [popup]'
I've got my Powerbook on 'light' and it looks great. 10.1 had too much in my opinion didn't look good on my LCD screen.
i don't personally encrypt my drive, although after reading the other replies, I may tinker with that a bit..
what i've been doing with my powerbook g4 is using Open Firmware Password which prevents booting from anything except a single designated 10.x partition. If you try to boot from another partition, CD, or external drive, you're presented with a very plain password screen with no instructions. I then have the screen saver set to require my password to get back to the finder.
it's not obviously quite as secure as encrypting an entire volume, but is fairly secure..
first.. Quartz Extreme isn't fully fully supported on my laptop either, but the dev release of 10.2 runs noticeably faster than 10.1.x, and this isn't even public beta yet. Jaguar will run better on your Mac than 10.1.x does, even without full support of QE.
secondly, if you expect that your G3 iMac 700 introduced in July of last year is supposed to somehow run the release of Jaguar comparable to other Macs also available last month (G4 tower, TiBook).. I can't really say much to that.
I'm not knocking your 700 iMac G3, it's a snappy box (probably as fast as my 550 PowerBook G4), and will likely run 10.2 just fine. If 10.2 (and later) was priority for you though, buying a G4 would've given you a longer lifespan, as I'm sure you are aware..
the speed is just fine.. I've got a PowerBook G4 550 with 512MB Ram and 16MB of video... and 10.2 (dev release) is indeed faster. Everything is faster, and it's not even beta yet. Remember, I (as many others) don't meet the 'suggested' video requirements for QE, but I'm telling you that my PowerBook now runs at speeds equivalent to OS9 without having full support for QE.. I was very pleasantly suprised, I wasn't expecting it to run so well with it being a dev release, and it will no doubt be even better at release... very exciting..
dont worry.. =)
bri
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I think he really has hit the nail on the head. Tabs aren't for everyone, but its stupid for someone building a browser to not implement them. If I were to hypothetically speaking gotten my hands on v64 build of Safari, I would hypothetically know that tabs are being implemented like Dave describes
I agree completely.. hypotheticaly speaking, of course.. =)
Having tabs in Safari would rock.. but how would I know, really..?
This is a sad double standard being applied to "unwanted" emails. The KKK and the NOI can publicly advertise their unwanted speech because the First Amendment protects them. They cannot be barred from advertising in newspapers, they cannot be barred from advertising on billboards, and they cannot be barred from posting in open forums. But spammers don't have these rights?
if they're purposefully falsifying their identity when spamming.. then you bet your ass they shouldn't have that right. That goes for all spammers. They should be required to use accurate 'from' information and severely punished for using/taking over some poor bastard's personal email address in an effort to cloak thier true idendity.
that said.. true identity or not, Apple Mail has been doing a fantastic job of screening my email. I get about 350 per week flagged and sent to the 'spam' folder. I'd say it's about 98% accurate. Then they're deleted after a 7 day hold, in case a legitimate email was to have been tagged wrong.
Actually, this is useful on a person by person basis. I can tell it which songs I like, and it can pre-scan new music and decide what I'm more likely to enjoy.
But, you see.. becuase we're the all knowing music industry, we'll simply tell you what to like instead. Then you wont have to put forth any effort at all. We know what's best for you.
Sounds like my iPod will be getting even more use pretty soon. Boy, they're doing a fatanstic job of making me never want to turn on the radio again. Keep it up guys.. dorks
That said, iTunes does a reasonable job keeping track of most frequently played, most recently played, most ignored tracks.. though it wont 'recommend' other tracks based on your preferences. Would be cool to use that feature online for bands/material I've not heard before.
=)
Sync'ing the bookmarks across
Absolutely.. This is the feature that I'm waiting on more than anything else. Heck i could even tolerate multiple windows vs. tabs if I could just keep a single bookmark file sync'ed across
Makes sense that they'd do this to bolster the 'you need
Aesthetics can really add to the experience, if elitists would stop and realize it instead of obsessing over copying every single thing in Windows and adding "G" or "K" to the beginning of their program names.
kidding.. i'm a big os x supporter, but this iThis and iThat was getting out of control.
too slow for what?.. that kind of a blanket statement really needs to be qualified. Too slow to check your email, too slow to run MS Office, too slow to play games.. what? Are we talking about an iBook or an xServe? For some tasks, Macs are significantly faster than PCs, so this is pretty much a useless argument that others use to prop up their preferred platform, and both sides are equally guilty of doing it. At some point (sooner than you think), speed will be nearly irrelevant for 90%+ of consumers.. what then?.. checking email and surfing at 5Ghz??? Why??! It's the same as surfing at 3Ghz, is the same as 2.2GHz, etc.. The selling point will shift (is shifting) to 'how well can I get my stuff done', 'does the gui impede my work or does it stay out of my way', etc..
There will always be those needing every cycle they can possibly squeeze out of their processor.. fine. For some of them, it will come from the x86 camp.. Others will get faster performance from G4s and G5s for their line of work. You may want to revisit your statement.
i'd really like to assume that you're kidding about this.. Windows is YEARS behind Apple in this area. The OS X gui (quartz, aqua, openGL, etc), while not to everyone's particular taste, can do more than anything I've ever seen come out of Redmond. Now, maybe XP is 'better' than previous Windows gui's,.. but Christ, how hard is that to do?!..
unreal..
our server does reverse lookups before delivering mail.. it's nice to be part of the solution...
if microsoft had been even remotely honest about something, anything, in the past.. maybe folks would be less likey to jump all over their ass for something like this.. myslef included. I don't trust that company to do anything other than what's in the interest of preserving their (albeit fading) grip on the industry. For all their recent blabbing about better security and better standards support, i've seen nothing of the kind.
I can confirm this.. thanks for the tip.. I'm running on a slightly dated PowerBook (550, 256K L2, no L3 cache), and attributed the sluggish scrolling of a few hundred pics to my PowerBook specs.. Much faster now with the shadows off. .Thank you
No, I wouldn't.. If the only lame ass way I could manage to grow or protect my business was to go about destroying any competing idea/business model, instead of being so good making *my own* widget that people actually *wanted* to buy from me instead.. then no, I'd never have gotten into that or any other business.. as it would simply be a reflection on how pathetic i was at running one.
Sure you (or the recording industry) can put as many locks on as you like, but if i *really* want into your house badly enough, I'll find a way in.. even if i have to drive a car through the front door. This is why the industry is fighting a losing battle. It was over before they even started fighting. They don't have the talent/resources to stay ahead of the masses. Sure, they can make a particular P2P service more inconvenient, but there will always be plenty of public and/or trusted private sources from which to dowload. And if/when the signal to noise ratio gets bad enough, people will simply invent or find another way to do it... then what? How many times will they go through this before reality begins to sink in?
I'd like to believe that the PC world might be (finally) acknowledging the MHz issue because they becoming more enlightened.. but sadly, I suspect that it has more to do with next generation Intel, etc processors coming out at lower clock speeds than current ones.. b/c then they'll then be fighting the same consumer perception (more MHz is always faster) that Apple's been fighting now for years.
When those next gen chips do come out, it will be interesting to hear the reason why Intel (et al) ends up saying that MHz suddenly no longer matters.. I mean, did it only matter when it was convenient for them?? Which is it, does it matter or not?
With the next gen IBM Power chips going into Macs this year and at *faster* clock speeds, Apple could stand to make up some ground in the perception war. =)
hi there.. these may help
MacOS X Unleashed Second Ed., published Dec 10.. covers 10.2
MacOS X in a Nutshell (O'Reilly) should be available by the time you finish the 1500+ pages in the 'Unleashed' book, above.. =)
hasta..
brian
yes, many of them do have listening stations where you either hand the CD to a clerk to spin for you..OR, some listening stations have barcode scanners where you just 'scan' the UPC and it begins playing an excerpt of that album/track.. very nice. When I buy, I try to do so from stores with this service.
god bless 'em (the record stores) for beginning to figure this much out.., however the record LABELS, sadly, would rather legislate their continued existence/monopoly rather than adjust their business practices. What kills me is that lots of other established markets have found a way to coexist with the Internet. That the RIAA can't seem to (cough, bulls#it!, cough) is indicative of their not *wanting* to. They know what needs to be done/what their consumers want.., they just don't f*cking care.. they don't have to.., yet. That day is coming though, they can cover their ears and eyes and scream all they want, but it IS coming.
The RIAA's opinion that all P2P should simply be abolished isn't the answer. I don't see anything at all wrong with downloading some tracks from a P2P service to 'try before i buy', provided I either 'buy' the CD or trash the downloaded tracks. The web is to me is just an extension of that 'listening station' at the record store.
I suppose I should've been a little more specific.. I was speaking to the visual aspects of OS X much more so than performance. Granted in 10.1.x, performance has been pretty disappointing, but there are some significant improvements in Jag. In build 6C106, lots of things are more responsive now on my Ti 550 with 16MB video, so I suspect your experience will be even better on your 667.
Regarding the multiple windows/multiple apps and minimizing to the dock.., there are utilities available that should 'pin' the dock to a corner and others that create groups of windows/virutal dekstops. I would imagine Apple might consider adding those features at some point. I'd like to see some of those things myself.
I'm very happy with Mozilla in OS 9 on one of my other Macs, but I still wont get near it in OS X, eveything about it is too slow yet.., the cursor lagging behind as you mentioned, even in the recent build of Jag. I don't see any of this lag in Omniweb or IE though.. I do hope Mozilla eventually gets to be as responsive it as it is currently in OS 9. I'd love to use it in OS X.
I'd mod you up if you weren't already at 5, because I think you've nailed what Apple is doing/where they're going with the GUI in OSX. God knows MS isn't going to get us there. Let's both hope this new environment ultimately comes to pass.., and soon. Hell, the current GUI is already way ahead of anything else I've seen, but if they really get going with OpenGL as they appear to be doing, it's going to make other stuff (XP, et al) look even worse that it does already. Hehe.
Apple is listening regarding the antialiasing. The upcoming 10.2 has 4 levels of smoothing (at least it does in the build i have). Here's how they're listed in system prefs:
Standard - best for CRT
Light
Medium - best for flat panel
Strong
Then, there's also 'turn off smoothing for sizes smaller than [popup]'
I've got my Powerbook on 'light' and it looks great. 10.1 had too much in my opinion didn't look good on my LCD screen.
i don't personally encrypt my drive, although after reading the other replies, I may tinker with that a bit.. what i've been doing with my powerbook g4 is using Open Firmware Password which prevents booting from anything except a single designated 10.x partition. If you try to boot from another partition, CD, or external drive, you're presented with a very plain password screen with no instructions. I then have the screen saver set to require my password to get back to the finder. it's not obviously quite as secure as encrypting an entire volume, but is fairly secure..
first.. Quartz Extreme isn't fully fully supported on my laptop either, but the dev release of 10.2 runs noticeably faster than 10.1.x, and this isn't even public beta yet. Jaguar will run better on your Mac than 10.1.x does, even without full support of QE.
secondly, if you expect that your G3 iMac 700 introduced in July of last year is supposed to somehow run the release of Jaguar comparable to other Macs also available last month (G4 tower, TiBook).. I can't really say much to that.
I'm not knocking your 700 iMac G3, it's a snappy box (probably as fast as my 550 PowerBook G4), and will likely run 10.2 just fine. If 10.2 (and later) was priority for you though, buying a G4 would've given you a longer lifespan, as I'm sure you are aware..
bri
the speed is just fine.. I've got a PowerBook G4 550 with 512MB Ram and 16MB of video... and 10.2 (dev release) is indeed faster. Everything is faster, and it's not even beta yet. Remember, I (as many others) don't meet the 'suggested' video requirements for QE, but I'm telling you that my PowerBook now runs at speeds equivalent to OS9 without having full support for QE.. I was very pleasantly suprised, I wasn't expecting it to run so well with it being a dev release, and it will no doubt be even better at release... very exciting.. dont worry.. =) bri