"...but also so that governments can adapt file formats for cross-software compatibility."
I haven't read the agreement or seen the code but I would be surprized if Microsoft didn't have a NDA attached and restrictions on use of their patented IP.
Why would SCO want to unseal emails for public consumption when it won't effect the Judge's rulings?
Could it have something to do with the fact that this case is more about pumping up the price of SCO stock and hurting Linux than it does about winning the court battle? After all, SCO was already paid handsomely by Microsoft to start this litigation. One has to wonder if Darel and others may have some back room dealings as well.
"This is a case of IBM following Microsoft," said James Mastan, director of marketing for Microsoft Speech Technologies."
Maybe. When did IBM come out with ViaVoice? It's been a number of years. They even offered it for Linux for a while. When did Microsoft jump on board? Maybe Mr. Mastan's statement is just bull too.
Either way, I'm glad to see IBM doing this. Voice recognition enabled programs open's a whole new and exciting frontier for software developer's both on the desktop and in embedded projects.
I have subscribed to WineX for a couple of years now. I just have five bucks a month charged to my credit card via Pay Pal.
For some time now I have been considering dropping my support of this product for some of the reasons listed in the article. Another reason is the way in which WineX or Cedega is distributed. You download their Point2Play program and then from that program you install Cedega. Although Cedega is offered as a separate download I have never been able to successfully install Cedega/WineX unless I use the Point2Play program to get the copy off of their website. What this means is if I ever drop my subscription I won't be able to reinstall the software. Probably the whole point in making it that way.
I have recently upgraded my PC to a 3.2 Ghz Pentium 4 and am testing out Suse. I installed Point2Play and Cedega. I wanted to see if the extra computing power would make gaming through WineX more bearable but I can't seem to get it to work with Suse. It simply won't install anything anymore. Yet another reason to drop this product.
As Linux works its way into the mainstream desktop market, we'll see more and more games being written for Linux. I always considered Wine/WineX just a temporary bandaid to help Windows users make the transition.
Let's not forget that SCO has attempted to get people to pay for an extra license for GPL'd software. This is a direct violation of the GPL. You can charge for the media etc but you may NOT add/remove restrictions.
Since SCO has sold licenses which BTW add restrictions to the use of the GPL'd software they are in violation of the GPL. This invalidates their license to distrubute the GPL code.
"With the net and FedEx, it's getting to the point that *anyone* can outsource. I'm waiting for the day I see housewives in the Ukraine advertising online that they will sew the latest Donna Karan (or somesuch) knockoff dresses custom fitted to your measurements for $30! I suspect it's not far off."
Well gee, I guess it's just a fluke that only large corporations are doing it. I expect you to get rich very soon. When you do, please drop me a line and tell me "I told you so." I would dearly love to hear that!
No, the outlook for the average american is NOT as rosey as you make out. If corporations have there way we all will be stuck in low paying jobs and they will be sucking up every dime we earn. The upside is that in the future the only requirment for a job is the ability to say "Would you like fries with that!"
"yeah, let's all spend a lot of time feeling sorry for blacksmiths as we stop buying cars to avoid putting people out of work."
This is not about a new technology displacing the old. This is about big corporations destroying the American way of life. It use to be that anyone had the opportunity to start up a small business but if corporations have there way there will be two classes. The very rich and the very poor. It's not the average person starting a business that can out source work in order to get labor that will work for on tenth the wage paid to an American worker. It is only the large corporations that can pull that off. If you want to be a peasant in some corporate kingdom more power too you but I for one prefer that opportunity for the average Joe not disappear from the USA, thank you very much.
"The trends that put people out of work are very gradual, and it's only people's denial of reality that allows them to be victimized."
Again this is not people gradually being put out of work because they didn't keep up with technology, it's peoples jobs being shipped over seas and being done an a much smaller wage. The American worker CAN NOT COMPETE because the cost of living in the USA will not allow him to do the work at such a small wage. Skilled workers such as programmers and others are losing there jobs because people in some under developed countries can afford to work for a wage that someone working at McDonald's in the USA gets. This isn't an option for someone with a family and mortgage. Saying "too bad, adapt or die." is really cold hearted and ignores the fact that American corporations are really selling their own people out.
"By feeling sorry for them and trying to help them out (taxpayer funded subsidies are equivalent to buying horseshoes and destroying them), all you're doing is making the trend less obvious"
Again this is not about horse drawn carriages verses automobile and I didn't say anything about subsidies.
"(And that, my friends)... is why outsourcing is such a fantastic idea.
You play to the strengths of the manufacturing of each country, take out the middleman, and we no longer have to pay inflated costs for everything."
It's not that simple. Out sourcing may in the short run be good for some consumers but it is a two sided sword. For the people that lose their jobs because of out sourcing it is very bad.
It is also very bad for the small "mom and pop" companies. Only large corporations can afford to do out sourcing so by supporting it you are playing into their hands. They want to squeeze out the smaller companies so that they can better control the market. Once they succeed the prices won't stay cheap anymore.
Out sourcing is NOT good in the long run for most people.
All that SCO are doing is to take the expense of their lawsuits and divide by the number of expected purchasers of their license to come to an amount that will allow them to break even.
I tried to do the same calculation to get an idea of how much Linux is going to cost but I keep getting a divide by zero error....
"Expensive measures are being called into place to archive the mail for future subpoena purposes."
I work for the State of Washington. In this state's government there is no problem deleting email as long as your department has a written policy defining the retention time for email.
Email is covered by the freedom of information act which means that it is not hard for an average citizen to request copies of email sent and received by the department. There is a procedure, fee and waiting period that discourages someone from coming in and requesting all mail during the retention period. It could be done but it would be very expensive. Not really worth it for someone on a wild fishing expedition but doable for a citizen that wants specific information..
If we receive a subpoena for email that was sent or received within out written email retention policy we had better be able to produce it. If we can't the requesting party could conceivably compel us to hire a very expensive data retrieval company to come in and reconstruct our data in order to comply. And of course if the courts believe that we deleted email prior to the retention date in an attempt to destroy evidence there is a chance that someone could be spending some quality time as Bubba's new love toy. If you know what I mean...
I disagree with your opinion that most people have an intuitive sense that we are alone in this vast universe. Most people that I know understand that as big a place as the universe is, it's unlikely that we are alone. Very unlikely. Really, really, very unlikely...
The chances are, however, that even though there are lots of other races out there, the distances between races are so vast that we will never meet face to face.
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"...but also so that governments can adapt file formats for cross-software compatibility."
I haven't read the agreement or seen the code but I would be surprized if Microsoft didn't have a NDA attached and restrictions on use of their patented IP.
Why would SCO want to unseal emails for public consumption when it won't effect the Judge's rulings?
Could it have something to do with the fact that this case is more about pumping up the price of SCO stock and hurting Linux than it does about winning the court battle? After all, SCO was already paid handsomely by Microsoft to start this litigation. One has to wonder if Darel and others may have some back room dealings as well.
" So, SCO insults the entire world of Free Software, and they think some stupid web site will generate some sympathy?"
I have sympathy for them. You know the kind that one has when one puts a suffering animal out of its misery.
I'm not trying to get drunk! I'm looking after my health damn it!
"This is a case of IBM following Microsoft," said James Mastan, director of marketing for Microsoft Speech Technologies."
Maybe. When did IBM come out with ViaVoice? It's been a number of years. They even offered it for Linux for a while. When did Microsoft jump on board? Maybe Mr. Mastan's statement is just bull too.
Either way, I'm glad to see IBM doing this. Voice recognition enabled programs open's a whole new and exciting frontier for software developer's both on the desktop and in embedded projects.
ignorance of the law is no excuse??
We're fucked!
"This all simply sounds like your inability to properly install or configure it."
Actually I have installed and configured it many times using Mandrake. Don't be a jerk.
All I was saying is that It isn't working on my new system under Suse.
I have subscribed to WineX for a couple of years now. I just have five bucks a month charged to my credit card via Pay Pal.
For some time now I have been considering dropping my support of this product for some of the reasons listed in the article. Another reason is the way in which WineX or Cedega is distributed. You download their Point2Play program and then from that program you install Cedega. Although Cedega is offered as a separate download I have never been able to successfully install Cedega/WineX unless I use the Point2Play program to get the copy off of their website. What this means is if I ever drop my subscription I won't be able to reinstall the software. Probably the whole point in making it that way.
I have recently upgraded my PC to a 3.2 Ghz Pentium 4 and am testing out Suse. I installed Point2Play and Cedega. I wanted to see if the extra computing power would make gaming through WineX more bearable but I can't seem to get it to work with Suse. It simply won't install anything anymore. Yet another reason to drop this product.
As Linux works its way into the mainstream desktop market, we'll see more and more games being written for Linux. I always considered Wine/WineX just a temporary bandaid to help Windows users make the transition.
"...and is giving their legal team a larger slice of any settlement SCO achieves."
Let's see... 20% of 0 = 0 and 33% of 0 = 0
Seems the same to me...
"Does that answer your question?"
No. The question was rhetorical. Microsoft is well known for playing dirty and this was just another example of that well documented behavior.
"In closing, he adds 'Linux doesn't exist."
Ummm... Kieren, pal... I hate to be the one to point this out but SCO once again has it wrong...
FIRST they ignore you... Not this late in the game!
"Marketers know what they are doing, and after they are done it goes through the legal department for checks and balances."
I wonder how they were found guilty then...
You notice I said IBM code not samba, gimp or whatever. IBM is suing about IBM code was released under the GPL."
The great part is that ANYONE who wrote even one line of code that has been distributed by SCO after they violated the GPL has grounds to sue.
It is possible that SCO may have to defend itself from thousands of copyright infringement cases!
Gottal love it!
"Oh, I don't think anyone was *that* stupid (No, not even Darl)."
:-)
You Sir, have never listened to Darl talk!
Let's not forget that SCO has attempted to get people to pay for an extra license for GPL'd software. This is a direct violation of the GPL. You can charge for the media etc but you may NOT add/remove restrictions.
Since SCO has sold licenses which BTW add restrictions to the use of the GPL'd software they are in violation of the GPL. This invalidates their license to distrubute the GPL code.
"It's about jobs changing and the demand for skills changing."
My point is that it is NOT about change of skills or jobs. It is about out sourcing the same job to cheaper labor.
And I stand by my statements about corporations.
"With the net and FedEx, it's getting to the point that *anyone* can outsource. I'm waiting for the day I see housewives in the Ukraine advertising online that they will sew the latest Donna Karan (or somesuch) knockoff dresses custom fitted to your measurements for $30! I suspect it's not far off."
Well gee, I guess it's just a fluke that only large corporations are doing it. I expect you to get rich very soon. When you do, please drop me a line and tell me "I told you so." I would dearly love to hear that!
No, the outlook for the average american is NOT as rosey as you make out. If corporations have there way we all will be stuck in low paying jobs and they will be sucking up every dime we earn. The upside is that in the future the only requirment for a job is the ability to say "Would you like fries with that!"
"yeah, let's all spend a lot of time feeling sorry for blacksmiths as we stop buying cars to avoid putting people out of work."
This is not about a new technology displacing the old. This is about big corporations destroying the American way of life. It use to be that anyone had the opportunity to start up a small business but if corporations have there way there will be two classes. The very rich and the very poor. It's not the average person starting a business that can out source work in order to get labor that will work for on tenth the wage paid to an American worker. It is only the large corporations that can pull that off. If you want to be a peasant in some corporate kingdom more power too you but I for one prefer that opportunity for the average Joe not disappear from the USA, thank you very much.
"The trends that put people out of work are very gradual, and it's only people's denial of reality that allows them to be victimized."
Again this is not people gradually being put out of work because they didn't keep up with technology, it's peoples jobs being shipped over seas and being done an a much smaller wage. The American worker CAN NOT COMPETE because the cost of living in the USA will not allow him to do the work at such a small wage. Skilled workers such as programmers and others are losing there jobs because people in some under developed countries can afford to work for a wage that someone working at McDonald's in the USA gets. This isn't an option for someone with a family and mortgage. Saying "too bad, adapt or die." is really cold hearted and ignores the fact that American corporations are really selling their own people out.
"By feeling sorry for them and trying to help them out (taxpayer funded subsidies are equivalent to buying horseshoes and destroying them), all you're doing is making the trend less obvious"
Again this is not about horse drawn carriages verses automobile and I didn't say anything about subsidies.
"(And that, my friends)... is why outsourcing is such a fantastic idea.
You play to the strengths of the manufacturing of each country, take out the middleman, and we no longer have to pay inflated costs for everything."
It's not that simple. Out sourcing may in the short run be good for some consumers but it is a two sided sword. For the people that lose their jobs because of out sourcing it is very bad.
It is also very bad for the small "mom and pop" companies. Only large corporations can afford to do out sourcing so by supporting it you are playing into their hands. They want to squeeze out the smaller companies so that they can better control the market. Once they succeed the prices won't stay cheap anymore.
Out sourcing is NOT good in the long run for most people.
Run Windows and your box can be owned for less...
All that SCO are doing is to take the expense of their lawsuits and divide by the number of expected purchasers of their license to come to an amount that will allow them to break even.
I tried to do the same calculation to get an idea of how much Linux is going to cost but I keep getting a divide by zero error....
" a major upgrade for Microsoft Internet Explorer may be imminent. Apparently in response to the recent mass migration away from MSIE..."
Yep, slap a coat of paint on that pig and resell it as new...
"Expensive measures are being called into place to archive the mail for future subpoena purposes."
I work for the State of Washington. In this state's government there is no problem deleting email as long as your department has a written policy defining the retention time for email.
Email is covered by the freedom of information act which means that it is not hard for an average citizen to request copies of email sent and received by the department. There is a procedure, fee and waiting period that discourages someone from coming in and requesting all mail during the retention period. It could be done but it would be very expensive. Not really worth it for someone on a wild fishing expedition but doable for a citizen that wants specific information..
If we receive a subpoena for email that was sent or received within out written email retention policy we had better be able to produce it. If we can't the requesting party could conceivably compel us to hire a very expensive data retrieval company to come in and reconstruct our data in order to comply. And of course if the courts believe that we deleted email prior to the retention date in an attempt to destroy evidence there is a chance that someone could be spending some quality time as Bubba's new love toy. If you know what I mean...
I disagree with your opinion that most people have an intuitive sense that we are alone in this vast universe. Most people that I know understand that as big a place as the universe is, it's unlikely that we are alone. Very unlikely. Really, really, very unlikely...
The chances are, however, that even though there are lots of other races out there, the distances between races are so vast that we will never meet face to face.
hehe, yes, I think that they would.