This seems to me to be more of the same from the denial team.
No, global warming will not make things better for all species. Many areas rely on snow pack melt off in the spring and summer months to supply needed water. If the snow packs melt early or don't form at all it causes drought.
I believe the figures are something like forty percent of the world depends on snow pack melt off for their summer water supply.
"Maybe I should have extended those definition of idiot to include you."
I don't really care what you do. If you haven't guessed by now, I don't regard your opinions highly. (moron)
"The comment was intented to imply that poor people don't manage their funding well. "
Right, [all] poor people don't manage their funding well. I mean there is no possibility that some poor people may be victims of circumstance. There is absolutely no chance that any poor person could not be covered by your extraordinarily ill informed and broad brush. (moron)
"Feeding a familily of four at Mcdonalds every day for $20 a day is about three to five times more expensive then buying groceries andmaking dinner at home."
Right. And we all know that is what all them poor people do. Yep, they're all out there at the fast food joints 'cause they're too lazy to buy real food and cook for themselves. Yep. Every single one of them. All the time... (moron)
"Buying the brand new car and spending $15000 over the next five years as apposed to the $3000 used car that will last those same five years."
Yeah, I really hate seeing all those poor people driving around in big shinny new cars. And that's what they all do. You can always tell a poor person 'cause he has a brand new car. (moron)
"Buying boats and motorcycles or 4-wheelers and complaining we can't afford to keep the electric on or heat the house during winter."
Right most poor people go out and buy expensive toys like boats and motorcycles. Yep, you can always tell a poor person 'cause they'll be sailing in a yacht! (moron)
"And my favorite is wading through piles of candy wrappers and potato chip sacks to say we cannot afford food."
(moron)
"The only implication I made is that people who cannot manage their money won't have it and people with money who cannot manage it, won't have it long."
Oh no. You don't get out of it that easily. You implied much more. You used a wide brush to paint the entire class of poor people. Your original quote:
"And the poor in America who seem to not be able to or just don't want to,"
You didn't say "And some poor in America..." You included the entire class. (moron)
"Only in America is the thought of sacrificing your drug habit or not buying a recreational vehicle over placing food on the table considered a deep decision the poor need to make. And for some reason, we should feel pity for them."
Right, all poor people have drug habits. It's common knowledge. (moron)
Okay, let me hit you with a clue stick. Most people are poor due to circumstances that are out of there control. Not many people live in a "leave it to beaver world." There are many thousands of people who have mental conditions that make getting and keeping a job very difficult. Probably because of heartless assholes (like you).
Thousands of people work there whole life and right at the end the company that they devoted there lives to pull plug on their retirement.
MANY thousands of people work there whole life and become very ill when they get old and lose everything. Most of them have insurance but it's not enough so they lose their homes and life savings and end up on the public assistance programs that you can't stand the though of funding.
If there is karma you just may end up dumpster diving for a living when you're 70.
There are laws that prevent hospitals from turning away seriously injured people. Be assured that if the laws were not on the books corporate run hospitals would indeed allow poor people to die just outside their doors.
His name says it all. What I see in a lot of posts are people who are too self serving to care a shit about their fellow man.
The parent poster's remarks imply that only dumb people are poor and therefore deserve what they get. Not only is this really stupid it shows a lack of any compassion. Let's just turn all the retarded people out into the streets to die. I mean they're not as smart as we are so they deserve to die. Fuck 'em...
Yeah, the parent poster is either a troll or really lacking as a human being.
"The vast majority can afford basic health care on their own. And the poor in America who seem to not be able to or just don't want to"
That has got to be right up there with some of dumbest things I have ever heard. Poor people "don't want to be able to afford health care" You really believe that bullshit? Yeah, right... I know all sorts of poor people who like not having enough money to cover their basic needs...
I really don't think that if we didn't have any over site that our heath care costs would drop. That's not the way it works when greed runs rampant.
Same thing is true of energy costs. Where I am gas costs $3.36 for a gallon of regular. It's not going to get better unless we pass laws to prevent price gouging. I don't think health care is so different.
I also don't understand why no one can seem to follow the money trail. Seems pretty obvious to me. Find out who is ripping us off and deal with them. Jail time may be appropriate.
Things like energy and health care are a bit different than say the price of a music album. No one dies if they can't afford to buy music.
So using laws to prevent corporations from extorting obscene profits from powerless people seems very reasonable to me.
"...that had done more in his life for his beliefs than we can only hope to achieve."
He believed in taking away our rights to enrich himself. I for one do not celebrate his life. Someday I will find his grave and piss on it. I'll take toilet paper too, just in case...
An electronic system designed by scientists to allow the world wide free exchange of information for the benefit of all mankind. Later to be subverted and controlled by corporate interests for the benefit of the wealthy.
"Dan Glickman announced that the MPAA was fine with consumers ripping DVDs for portable video players and home media servers."
But didn't the MPAA sue the maker of a piece of hardware that was designed to store and play ripped DVDs? I seem to remember an article about it right here on slashdot.
The fact that I typoed "genius" is a non-issue. It doesn't make you any smarter or me any less your mental superior.
The State of the Union Address has nothing to do with the reasons and objectives of this war of choice. Apparently you are incapable of grasping the difference between the rhetoric leading up to our cowboy style invasion of Iraq and the attempt by the Bush Administration to morph this mega-blunder into some kind of noble deed.
"Just because you can't comprehend the complexities of international politics and economics,..."
You want to make this personal, fine. I'll put my IQ and ability to comprehend complexities up against yours any day jackoff. I'm no genus but classified as "extremely gifted." How about you? No? didn't think so...
People appling for unemployment benefits are counted as part of the calculation. From the US Department of Labor website:
"Statistics on insured unemployment in the United States are collected as a byproduct of unemployment insurance (UI) programs. Workers who lose their jobs and are covered by these programs typically file claims which serve as notice that they are beginning a period of unemployment. Claimants who qualify for benefits are counted in the insured unemployment figures."
"Statistics on insured unemployment in the United States are collected as a byproduct of unemployment insurance (UI) programs. Workers who lose their jobs and are covered by these programs typically file claims which serve as notice that they are beginning a period of unemployment. Claimants who qualify for benefits are counted in the insured unemployment figures."
Unemployement insurance isn't the only way the number is calculated but it is part of it. Hence lowering the number who can apply will have an effect.
The objectives you stated were NOT the objectives at all. We went into Iraq for one reason and one reason only; to remove the WMDs that never existed. We got suckered into this war by the Bush Administration. The cherry picked faulty intelligence and Bush even told us that Iran was trying to get nuclear material from Africa based on forged documents. The White House knew this was bad information. They were told a year earlier that this information was false yet Bush went ahead and announced it so that he would whip up fear and ensure HIS war would take place.
All of the remaining problems you listed were caused by our actions. Oh, and the terrorists we're fighting in Iraq.... They're called freedom fighters... Remember, we invaded their country...
I also keep hearing that unemployment is low. Well friend, unemployment numbers are based on the number of people getting unemployment benefits not on the number of people who are really unemployed. One of the things that the Bush administration did to tweak those numbers was to ensure that fewer people were eligible to collect those benefits.
All the "new jobs" being created... Most of them are low paying drone labor.
As far as the economy goes, I wish that people would stop telling me that the economy is doing so well just because the stock prices are up. That may be great for some rich SOBs but I live pay check to pay check. I can't afford to invest heavily in the stock market.
My health care costs are WAY up. Gas prices WAY up. With gas prices so high it won't be long before the cost of transporting all goods drives the price of everything up.
I believe that the unemployment numbers are related to the number of people collecting unemployment benefits. One of the things the Bush administration did to lower the unemployment numbers was to ensure that fewer people without jobs were entitled to the benefits.
Aren't you forgetting to blame him for bad breath and houseitosus? I mean really half the things you blame him for he had no control over.
"Deficit spending went through the roof (the deficit for the fiscal year 1979 totaled $27.7 billion, and that for 1980 was nearly $59 billion)." And you think that's worse than the deficits the Bush Administration has?
"High gas prices!" Do yo blame Bush for the outrageous gas prices of today?
"Iranian hostage crisis." And exactly how could he have prevented a group of students from taking hostages?
"Failure to rescue Iranian hostages." They came back alive. You mean failure to forcibly take the hostages back cowboy style. Well sorry your ego didn't get satisfied but like I said they ALL came back unharmed.
"Demoralization and dismantling of the US military." As a man of peace he didn't feel we needed as big a military but he didn't "demoralized" them.
"Canceled the B1-B program as well as the MBT-70. (Both badly needed to compete with our enemy of the time... the Soviets who had the T-72 and the Tu-160 BLACKJACK"
Well apparently we didn't "need" them as badly as you suggest. We're still here and the Soviet Union isn't.
The Epson replacement ink is outrageously expensive. I can get "generic" replacements for half the cost. The drawback is that the generic cartridges have leaked and my printer is now a mess.
"everywhere else the criterion is who filed first, and the new legislation would bring the US into line."
Yeah, like this is fair. Open Source developers with little money will be allowed to develop software that large corporations with lots of money can then patent. They can then sue the developers who actually innovated. Sounds just fine. Legal claim jumping. Great bill.
I hope I don't understand how this works because I honestly can't see how fairness enters into an arrangement like this. Perhaps a lawyer out there can explain how this would be a good thing.
He raises a good point. If part of the deal is you must produce the original license most people probably won't be able to do so. Microsoft would be getting off REALLY cheap.
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This seems to me to be more of the same from the denial team.
No, global warming will not make things better for all species. Many areas rely on snow pack melt off in the spring and summer months to supply needed water. If the snow packs melt early or don't form at all it causes drought.
I believe the figures are something like forty percent of the world depends on snow pack melt off for their summer water supply.
"Maybe I should have extended those definition of idiot to include you."
I don't really care what you do. If you haven't guessed by now, I don't regard your opinions highly. (moron)
"The comment was intented to imply that poor people don't manage their funding well. "
Right, [all] poor people don't manage their funding well. I mean there is no possibility that some poor people may be victims of circumstance. There is absolutely no chance that any poor person could not be covered by your extraordinarily ill informed and broad brush. (moron)
"Feeding a familily of four at Mcdonalds every day for $20 a day is about three to five times more expensive then buying groceries andmaking dinner at home."
Right. And we all know that is what all them poor people do. Yep, they're all out there at the fast food joints 'cause they're too lazy to buy real food and cook for themselves. Yep. Every single one of them. All the time... (moron)
"Buying the brand new car and spending $15000 over the next five years as apposed to the $3000 used car that will last those same five years."
Yeah, I really hate seeing all those poor people driving around in big shinny new cars. And that's what they all do. You can always tell a poor person 'cause he has a brand new car. (moron)
"Buying boats and motorcycles or 4-wheelers and complaining we can't afford to keep the electric on or heat the house during winter."
Right most poor people go out and buy expensive toys like boats and motorcycles. Yep, you can always tell a poor person 'cause they'll be sailing in a yacht! (moron)
"And my favorite is wading through piles of candy wrappers and potato chip sacks to say we cannot afford food."
(moron)
"The only implication I made is that people who cannot manage their money won't have it and people with money who cannot manage it, won't have it long."
Oh no. You don't get out of it that easily. You implied much more. You used a wide brush to paint the entire class of poor people. Your original quote:
"And the poor in America who seem to not be able to or just don't want to,"
You didn't say "And some poor in America..." You included the entire class. (moron)
"Only in America is the thought of sacrificing your drug habit or not buying a recreational vehicle over placing food on the table considered a deep decision the poor need to make. And for some reason, we should feel pity for them."
Right, all poor people have drug habits. It's common knowledge. (moron)
Okay, let me hit you with a clue stick. Most people are poor due to circumstances that are out of there control. Not many people live in a "leave it to beaver world." There are many thousands of people who have mental conditions that make getting and keeping a job very difficult. Probably because of heartless assholes (like you).
Thousands of people work there whole life and right at the end the company that they devoted there lives to pull plug on their retirement.
MANY thousands of people work there whole life and become very ill when they get old and lose everything. Most of them have insurance but it's not enough so they lose their homes and life savings and end up on the public assistance programs that you can't stand the though of funding.
If there is karma you just may end up dumpster diving for a living when you're 70.
There are laws that prevent hospitals from turning away seriously injured people. Be assured that if the laws were not on the books corporate run hospitals would indeed allow poor people to die just outside their doors.
His name says it all. What I see in a lot of posts are people who are too self serving to care a shit about their fellow man.
The parent poster's remarks imply that only dumb people are poor and therefore deserve what they get. Not only is this really stupid it shows a lack of any compassion. Let's just turn all the retarded people out into the streets to die. I mean they're not as smart as we are so they deserve to die. Fuck 'em...
Yeah, the parent poster is either a troll or really lacking as a human being.
"The vast majority can afford basic health care on their own. And the poor in America who seem to not be able to or just don't want to"
That has got to be right up there with some of dumbest things I have ever heard. Poor people "don't want to be able to afford health care" You really believe that bullshit? Yeah, right... I know all sorts of poor people who like not having enough money to cover their basic needs...
I really don't think that if we didn't have any over site that our heath care costs would drop. That's not the way it works when greed runs rampant.
Same thing is true of energy costs. Where I am gas costs $3.36 for a gallon of regular. It's not going to get better unless we pass laws to prevent price gouging. I don't think health care is so different.
I also don't understand why no one can seem to follow the money trail. Seems pretty obvious to me. Find out who is ripping us off and deal with them. Jail time may be appropriate.
Things like energy and health care are a bit different than say the price of a music album. No one dies if they can't afford to buy music.
So using laws to prevent corporations from extorting obscene profits from powerless people seems very reasonable to me.
"...that had done more in his life for his beliefs than we can only hope to achieve."
He believed in taking away our rights to enrich himself. I for one do not celebrate his life. Someday I will find his grave and piss on it. I'll take toilet paper too, just in case...
I was always taught that if you didn't have anything good to say about the dead not to say anything....
He's dead and that's good!
"We don't have to celebrate his death..."
Okay, that's it... You're out of the club!
You have no clue how the system works. People DO NOT GET FREE ATTORNEYS FOR CIVIL SUITES.
that someday I would piss on his grave. Someday I will keep it.
An electronic system designed by scientists to allow the world wide free exchange of information for the benefit of all mankind. Later to be subverted and controlled by corporate interests for the benefit of the wealthy.
"Dan Glickman announced that the MPAA was fine with consumers ripping DVDs for portable video players and home media servers."
But didn't the MPAA sue the maker of a piece of hardware that was designed to store and play ripped DVDs? I seem to remember an article about it right here on slashdot.
I think I hear double speak...
The fact that I typoed "genius" is a non-issue. It doesn't make you any smarter or me any less your mental superior.
The State of the Union Address has nothing to do with the reasons and objectives of this war of choice. Apparently you are incapable of grasping the difference between the rhetoric leading up to our cowboy style invasion of Iraq and the attempt by the Bush Administration to morph this mega-blunder into some kind of noble deed.
"Just because you can't comprehend the complexities of international politics and economics, ..."
You want to make this personal, fine. I'll put my IQ and ability to comprehend complexities up against yours any day jackoff. I'm no genus but classified as "extremely gifted." How about you? No? didn't think so...
People appling for unemployment benefits are counted as part of the calculation. From the US Department of Labor website:
"Statistics on insured unemployment in the United States are collected as a byproduct of unemployment insurance (UI) programs. Workers who lose their jobs and are covered by these programs typically file claims which serve as notice that they are beginning a period of unemployment. Claimants who qualify for benefits are counted in the insured unemployment figures."
From the website:
"Statistics on insured unemployment in the United States are collected as a byproduct of unemployment insurance (UI) programs. Workers who lose their jobs and are covered by these programs typically file claims which serve as notice that they are beginning a period of unemployment. Claimants who qualify for benefits are counted in the insured unemployment figures."
Unemployement insurance isn't the only way the number is calculated but it is part of it. Hence lowering the number who can apply will have an effect.
The objectives you stated were NOT the objectives at all. We went into Iraq for one reason and one reason only; to remove the WMDs that never existed. We got suckered into this war by the Bush Administration. The cherry picked faulty intelligence and Bush even told us that Iran was trying to get nuclear material from Africa based on forged documents. The White House knew this was bad information. They were told a year earlier that this information was false yet Bush went ahead and announced it so that he would whip up fear and ensure HIS war would take place.
All of the remaining problems you listed were caused by our actions. Oh, and the terrorists we're fighting in Iraq.... They're called freedom fighters... Remember, we invaded their country...
I also keep hearing that unemployment is low. Well friend, unemployment numbers are based on the number of people getting unemployment benefits not on the number of people who are really unemployed. One of the things that the Bush administration did to tweak those numbers was to ensure that fewer people were eligible to collect those benefits.
All the "new jobs" being created... Most of them are low paying drone labor.
As far as the economy goes, I wish that people would stop telling me that the economy is doing so well just because the stock prices are up. That may be great for some rich SOBs but I live pay check to pay check. I can't afford to invest heavily in the stock market.
My health care costs are WAY up. Gas prices WAY up. With gas prices so high it won't be long before the cost of transporting all goods drives the price of everything up.
I believe that the unemployment numbers are related to the number of people collecting unemployment benefits. One of the things the Bush administration did to lower the unemployment numbers was to ensure that fewer people without jobs were entitled to the benefits.
The Devil is always in the details.
"...then we'd be "entrenched" in a battle with terrorism that we'd be winning faster then we're winning it now."
Hate to burst your bubble but we aren't "winning it now."
Aren't you forgetting to blame him for bad breath and houseitosus? I mean really half the things you blame him for he had no control over.
"Deficit spending went through the roof (the deficit for the fiscal year 1979 totaled $27.7 billion, and that for 1980 was nearly $59 billion)."
And you think that's worse than the deficits the Bush Administration has?
"High gas prices!"
Do yo blame Bush for the outrageous gas prices of today?
"Iranian hostage crisis."
And exactly how could he have prevented a group of students from taking hostages?
"Failure to rescue Iranian hostages."
They came back alive. You mean failure to forcibly take the hostages back cowboy style. Well sorry your ego didn't get satisfied but like I said they ALL came back unharmed.
"Demoralization and dismantling of the US military."
As a man of peace he didn't feel we needed as big a military but he didn't "demoralized" them.
"Canceled the B1-B program as well as the MBT-70. (Both badly needed to compete with our enemy of the time... the Soviets who had the T-72 and the Tu-160 BLACKJACK"
Well apparently we didn't "need" them as badly as you suggest. We're still here and the Soviet Union isn't.
The Epson replacement ink is outrageously expensive. I can get "generic" replacements for half the cost. The drawback is that the generic cartridges have leaked and my printer is now a mess.
"everywhere else the criterion is who filed first, and the new legislation would bring the US into line."
Yeah, like this is fair. Open Source developers with little money will be allowed to develop software that large corporations with lots of money can then patent. They can then sue the developers who actually innovated. Sounds just fine. Legal claim jumping. Great bill.
I hope I don't understand how this works because I honestly can't see how fairness enters into an arrangement like this. Perhaps a lawyer out there can explain how this would be a good thing.
How is the parent post "off topic?"
He raises a good point. If part of the deal is you must produce the original license most people probably won't be able to do so. Microsoft would be getting off REALLY cheap.