This is napkin-writing idea spinning. This kind of fiddle with the order of magnitude math works well in science fiction novels, but it doesn't shrink the size of the universe. Nor do I necessarily accept the idea that 2^300 electrons depicts the universe (or is conquerable in any time span fathomable by us.)
And lastly, I never change my mind for ac's. Unless you are a whistle-blower or furtively trying to hook up with someone else from a personal ad.
Why on earth would you expect there to have been the possibility of contact already? we've only been capable of receiving (or conceiving) of such a thing for a hundred years or so, and to quote douglas adams "I mean, space is really big".
Picture two individual grains of sand, somewhere on different beaches, detecting and responding to each other's emanations. Staggering.
Well, they *really* did invent the technology that they're protesting about. The trouble is, iirc, that they hoodwinked the rest of the industry into copying it just far enough before they split the consortium. (And commenced suing.)
I wonder just how much money is involved. Other ram makers just caved in and started paying the royalties. Infinium didn't, but must maintain this ad nauseum court action. I wonder who's further ahead?
Whups, one other thing: It's been fairly robustly proven that population growth stabilizes where women get enough freedom and independence to have a say in whether they are going to procreate.
Combined with my point above, you get a population that doesn't replace itself. The U.S. and Canada both now support their population with immigration.
If you have ever seen that "entire earth at night" image, compounded from several hundred night satellite photos I understand, you'd probably agree with my first impression: We look like fungal growth, clinging first and strongest to the damp edges of the earth but essentially still covering it.
To my mind, "intelligence" isn't a gift, it's a responsibility. Helping to maintain the balance is MUCH more important. More important than your mortgage rates, more important than your particular kids. WAY more important than the drivel that'll get replied to this msg.
Using other 'percent' type quotes, all of which backed up their information as much as this article did (which is to say, didn't), I discovered this:
About 80 percent of Internet traffic flows through Virginia.
Over 80 percent of traffic on the Internet is transported by Cisco equipment.
10 percent of Internet traffic, by some estimates, [is viruses scanning]
Music is 50 percent of internet traffic.
All meaningless stats, un-qualified. Pap. Probably just like this '35%' number. How do you measure 'internet traffic'? How can you possibly estimate it?
And at the same time, the discussions about this pogrom are still available for people to view. Not very tidy control by shadowy background figures. They (the threads you listed) are not much more than a group of strangers speculation. Half of them by anonymous cowards. Doesn't convince me of anything.
No one said anything about free utopia, and I continue to disagree with you.
Update (5/28/03): The information in this journal is outdated and no longer reflects the state of Slashcode; this journal remains as a historical record but is no longer accurate.
Outstanding post, especially since it's got nothing to do with the "you are trying to intrude on my freedom and free speech" background noise. More so, since the freedom that everyone seems most worried about is the freedom to find more porn on the net.
To the grandparent, I have to echo someone else's question: Just what 'social responisibilty' WOULD you hope for from/.? Free speech means the burden of responsibility rests on you, I'm afraid. It's not up to anyone else to net-nanny for you.
"Slashdot" (in the way that you mean it) doesn't moderate, you do. And I do. And the 'clueless fuckwit' does. Drop the paranoia, not everything is subtly controlled by shadowy background figures.
When I got to bottom of the page, I saw this: ---- by MisanthropicProgram (763655) on Tuesday August 17, @04:00PM (#9994622) fucking! Unless I see robots fucking, I'm not interested! [ Reply to This ] 10 replies beneath your current threshold. --------
And I thought... More like 11 replies beneath my current threshold.
Not true. Jon in scandanavia (yes, I'm sure they hate that term) is a happy exception (and that was largely the same issue, dvd copying). I'm sure there are lots of others, unfortunatly my trivia collector is pretty fickle about what it choooses to retain.
I doubt you were speaking it fluently enough to impress. I was watching a movie that had a short clip showing a 'korean' newscaster (S.W.A.T.) and my two from-korea friends looked at each and smiled condescendingly. "What?" I asked. "She's not korean" they replied, "Maybe her parents are". After having spent enough time to learn to read korean, I was unable to hear any difference.
I am forced to compare this to 'newlyweds', which I was subjected to by my wife, where Jessica had severe difficulty learning lines that involved such difficult words as 'lair', 'chartreuse', and proceeded to ask for help spelling the word 'marines'
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This is napkin-writing idea spinning. This kind of fiddle with the order of magnitude math works well in science fiction novels, but it doesn't shrink the size of the universe. Nor do I necessarily accept the idea that 2^300 electrons depicts the universe (or is conquerable in any time span fathomable by us.)
And lastly, I never change my mind for ac's. Unless you are a whistle-blower or furtively trying to hook up with someone else from a personal ad.
Why on earth would you expect there to have been the possibility of contact already? we've only been capable of receiving (or conceiving) of such a thing for a hundred years or so, and to quote douglas adams "I mean, space is really big".
Picture two individual grains of sand, somewhere on different beaches, detecting and responding to each other's emanations. Staggering.
Kudos on a truly great rant. Honestly. It was cathartic just reading it.
If I were you, living in the states, I would be careful mentioning 'jhad'ing anything.
Number of members: Millions
Value: Debatable^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HNegligible
Sorry, you detected as chaotic evil.
Well, they *really* did invent the technology that they're protesting about. The trouble is, iirc, that they hoodwinked the rest of the industry into copying it just far enough before they split the consortium. (And commenced suing.)
I wonder just how much money is involved. Other ram makers just caved in and started paying the royalties. Infinium didn't, but must maintain this ad nauseum court action. I wonder who's further ahead?
I don't know who you think you are, mister, but intelligent, thoughtful answers aren't looked upon very kindly around here. You better snap out of it.
Whups, one other thing: It's been fairly robustly proven that population growth stabilizes where women get enough freedom and independence to have a say in whether they are going to procreate.
Combined with my point above, you get a population that doesn't replace itself. The U.S. and Canada both now support their population with immigration.
> Free market economies (aka evil capitalism)
> have declining populations. How is this
> possible?
Easily enough, affluent people don't NEED nearly as many children and grandchildren to see them through retirement.
If you have ever seen that "entire earth at night" image, compounded from several hundred night satellite photos I understand, you'd probably agree with my first impression: We look like fungal growth, clinging first and strongest to the damp edges of the earth but essentially still covering it.
To my mind, "intelligence" isn't a gift, it's a responsibility. Helping to maintain the balance is MUCH more important. More important than your mortgage rates, more important than your particular kids. WAY more important than the drivel that'll get replied to this msg.
Not a troll.
Using other 'percent' type quotes, all of which backed up their information as much as this article did (which is to say, didn't), I discovered this:
About 80 percent of Internet traffic flows through Virginia.
Over 80 percent of traffic on the Internet is transported by Cisco equipment.
10 percent of Internet traffic, by some estimates, [is viruses scanning]
Music is 50 percent of internet traffic.
All meaningless stats, un-qualified. Pap. Probably just like this '35%' number. How do you measure 'internet traffic'? How can you possibly estimate it?
I have 85% confidence in this message.
No one said anything about free utopia, and I continue to disagree with you.
Then from the referenced articles:
Update (5/28/03): The information in this journal is outdated and no longer reflects the state of Slashcode; this journal remains as a historical record but is no longer accurate.
Apparently you don't either.
Yes, I often take direction from anonymous cowards.
Outstanding post, especially since it's got nothing to do with the "you are trying to intrude on my freedom and free speech" background noise. More so, since the freedom that everyone seems most worried about is the freedom to find more porn on the net.
/.? Free speech means the burden of responsibility rests on you, I'm afraid. It's not up to anyone else to net-nanny for you.
To the grandparent, I have to echo someone else's question: Just what 'social responisibilty' WOULD you hope for from
"Slashdot" (in the way that you mean it) doesn't moderate, you do. And I do. And the 'clueless fuckwit' does. Drop the paranoia, not everything is subtly controlled by shadowy background figures.
Er, except the internet is doing so wirelessly. Not much danger of them becoming irrelevant anytime soon.
Make that 12.
When I got to bottom of the page, I saw this:
... More like 11 replies beneath my current threshold.
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by MisanthropicProgram (763655) on Tuesday August 17, @04:00PM (#9994622)
fucking!
Unless I see robots fucking, I'm not interested!
[ Reply to This ]
10 replies beneath your current threshold.
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And I thought
Not true. Jon in scandanavia (yes, I'm sure they hate that term) is a happy exception (and that was largely the same issue, dvd copying). I'm sure there are lots of others, unfortunatly my trivia collector is pretty fickle about what it choooses to retain.
I doubt you were speaking it fluently enough to impress. I was watching a movie that had a short clip showing a 'korean' newscaster (S.W.A.T.) and my two from-korea friends looked at each and smiled condescendingly. "What?" I asked. "She's not korean" they replied, "Maybe her parents are". After having spent enough time to learn to read korean, I was unable to hear any difference.
I am forced to compare this to 'newlyweds', which I was subjected to by my wife, where Jessica had severe difficulty learning lines that involved such difficult words as 'lair', 'chartreuse', and proceeded to ask for help spelling the word 'marines'
Nonsense. As long as you still have your towel, you're fine.
HAHAHA, this has gotten missed in the scrum, I'm sure. good on you, +4, funny.